Thanks for this video I’ve had an Odin 2 base for over a month now and it’s amazing I would recommend you have the same keys as your firmware version and have force maximum GPU clocks and use asynchronous shaders are turned on in Yuzu! It drastically improves performance and the key/firmware thing fixes issues like the MK8 Deluxe MII issue! Also Aethersx2 is no longer in development so make sure you don’t grab the latest version you get version 3668 because it’s the same as the latest but it doesn’t have ads and make sure you turn off auto updates in the play store!
@@WulffDen awesome I have a steam deck as well but switch emulation on both of these devices is more for fun otherwise I’ll just play a game on my switch for locked fps, but for all emulation I’ll use Odin 2 and steam deck for modern experiences!
At 53 years old, I'm a novice when it comes to emulation. I have a couple of Anbernic devices and had ordered an Odin 2 pro. I cancelled my order not because of the price, but because I wasn't sure if I would have a device that would do what I wanted to do. Which is retro emulation and Android games. A dedicated android device just for game is appealing to me. I ended up woth the Retroid Pocket 3+. It's the perfect device for learning emulation. Im just disappointed that it says Diablo Immortal isn't compatible with my device. I am still looking to get an Odin 2. I think it's a great device overall.
I will say one thing: Switch emulation can be popular because it allows people to apply mods to their games! To do that on an actual Switch, you either need a very, very early iteration of the Switch for a physical exploit, or to pay out the nose to add a modchip.
What's kind of being neglected in terms of information about this device is that the 450 something dollar model comes with 512 gigabytes of storage and a micro SD card slot. This has all the internals of Galaxy s23 Ultra minus camera and phone for damn near $800 less... For an Android device that is pretty damn impressive 512 GB of storage 16 GB of RAM and a snapdragon 8 gen 2.. All things that you cannot find together in a device around $450
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yeah but why? at that point shouldn't be better just go for a steam deck?
@ The benefits as far as I can see of using Android are that you have all the easy access to Android apps. Your Netflix and Hulu should work a lot better on there than they should the steam deck. Still a lot cheaper than buying an iPad
I bought the Pro to flip. But now I'm keeping it, I keep trying to max it out w Burnout 3, but it just goes. It works in the lowest setting for power and fan management. MGS2/3 look better than what was available on the PS3 versions. It's almost weird how perfect everything runs. And the battery. I'm getting almost 9 hours of straight PS2 gameplay.
Great video! The big thing the Odin 2 has going for it is it's CPU. This is one of the cheapest devices I've seen with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 in it. But at this price, I'd recommend a Steam Deck
agreed if one does not mind that the steam deck is much bulkier, weighs 50% more and battery life is only half of the Odin. I have both devices, since owning the odin I do not really use the deck any more.
Totally on board with the Switch emulation thoughts. When I was in school I totally would have been tweaking on it for hours "because I can" even if I had a Switch. But now that I'm in my 30s and have too much stuff to do, I just want to play games and not waste time screwing around making things work. I pretty much play all Nintendo games on real Nintendo hardware because everything else so far is a compromise. A real Switch just works, and everything I've seen/tried so far for DS emulation is so much worse than just using a DS. I do have some of my PS2 and GameCube collection on my Steam Deck for convenience and if I don't want to go to the TV. Something like this would be cool for something smaller and lighter, and way longer battery life if you're not planning on playing bigger PC games on the go.
I feel you. It's fascinating for me to watch all these handheld work on emulators but I'm just too lazy to screw around to make things work. I don't play retro games but still playing nintendo. Just playing the real device itself make things work flawlessly. Also I play online a lot so Nintendo emulator was never a thing for me.
I am a retired network administrator. Back in my younger days I use to love tweaking on hardware and software to get stuff working. Thats how it was when I first started using Linux in the mid 90's. Today now that I am in my mid 50's, I guess I am just tired of trying to get things working right. I still like tweaking stuff, but not to the point that I use to. I just want things to work. There are so many of these devices these days, I feel that they should just work.
For $299, the best value handheld by a mile. The Switch has 4Gb RAM, so it should be possible for all games to run well on the 8Gb Odin 2. Emulation gets better each day. That Snapdragon Gen 2 is amazing value when you compare the phones that it comes with. This demonstrates that great tech can be made, for a profit at a great price. I would have thought that PS3 gameplay would be within it's reach.
@@Lasjah Firmware of the Odin 2 has been updated recently so that any model can use 4 additional GB of storage as swap. That has drastically improved Switch performance on the Base model.
Switch is arm based, Native code Execution (NCE) runs every arm base instruction from the processor directly on your android device since it is Also arm based, no emulation, its all Native, with some exeptions but in general thats what nce does
i think whats underrated about it is that if u compare it to like a steam deck for its price is the fact that the ayn odin is way smaller than the steam deck, runs quieter and arguably have the same if emulation capabilities
It may have the same emulation capabilities but it also lacks the ability to play most of the steam library which kind of more than makes up whatever cost difference there is.
@@pistolao_vr Who's going to game on a handheld for more than a 2 to 3 hour session anyway? The Steam Deck gets anywhere from 3-7 hours of battery life whenever emulating games (dependant on emulator). It's not exactly what I class as being an insufficient amount for most people. Hell, access to being able to play AAA PC games, having a fully functional PC and being able to play 80% of Switch games fairly flawlessly on the Steam Deck (far more so than on the Odin), is in itself probably worth paying out an extra $150-$200 for those privileges. However, the fact that the 256GB LCD Steam Deck can now be picked up for £100 less than the Aya Odin 2 here in the UK, just turns the whole decision, into an instant "no brainer". Hell, you could even pick up a Retroid Pocket 2S alongside that Steam Deck and still come in under the £450 price of a Aya Odin 2. The Odin 2 is just too expensive for what it is. If it was a £250 - £300 handheld, then it would be one hell of a good deal and likely a must buy. However at £450 it just gets outclassed and bitch slapped by both the Steam Deck and the Z1 Ally, which are both in the same ballpark on price. BTW, I've also got a feeling the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro due out next month for $200, will make the Odin 2 look terrible in comparison (around 75% it's performance for well under half the cost)
@@DarkSabrewulf123602 How retro is _retro?_ Is a PS4 a retro system? Does anybody want to play Atari 2600 for more than five minutes once? Something like this is overkill for OG Nintendo.
I had a terrible issue with Ayn when i bought the first Odin Pro, i ordered a blue One, they made me wait 3 months more, then sent me a transparent one with broken leds
A big draw to me of the Odin 2 over a Steam Deck or ROG Ally is that it is an ARM device and thus has significantly better battery life when emulating PS2, GC, Switch, etc. I am also hopeful that through projects like Cassia we will see the ability to run Windows based x86 software through translation layers in the future.
But you miss out on the Steam Library.. There's so much more great stuff on there than just emulated games. I think that library adds a lot of value to the device. It even encludes pretty much all new Xbox titles and a good selection of ps4/ps5 titles like GoW and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Well the steam deck OLED has a 50Wh battery vs 8000mah. So the power saving really doesn’t matter that much. It is a smaller device so that counts for something I guess.
The Steam Deck is my favourite for general emulation, I don’t know if it does Switch, but considering its popularity and accessibility, at least many have an emulation device now.
Steam Deck does Switch pretty well. With the current price drop for the LCD versions, it makes the Steam Deck a comparable price to the Aya Neo 2. Course if you only care about emulation, the Neo 2 has better battery life and is smaller.
steam deck is too big and has a terrible battery life. literally should not be considered a handheld at this point. I have large hands but it's still way too uncomfortable. imagine this with someone with average hand size.
@@poffy02 I find it to be far more comfortable than the Switch to be honest. Battery life is more than enough, it's for use around the house. (also battery life is better when playing indie games)
@@pdj2975 2 hours is worst case scenario. 4 hours is more realistic, 7 hours if you play light indies. Nevertheless, I would have been okay with 1 hour. Who cares. This is to play in bed, on the plane, on the couch or in the backyard. I have never had an issue. Steam has the largest game library that has ever existed, that's where value is.
I love my Odin Lite. It's so good all the way up to PS2 and GCN games. It's the perfect size and feels great in my hand. I'd love an Odin 2 but I have so many handheld devices today including an Analogue Pocket, Steam Deck, and various others. Plus I just bought the Odin Lite about a year ago. Just can't justify the cost as much as I'd love to have one. I also have a Razer Kishi V2 and a Galaxy S23 Ultra phone that will perform better than the Edge.
"A yellow grip means you're about to quit the podcast with that person". .....you take that back right now, sir!! Wood is a delicate soul and you'll break his little heart!
I did actually broke a nail while opening the microsd slot... 🥺 But great video! I was waiting to see what your thoughts were on the Odin 2. I bought it and pleasantly surprised by the whole purchasing experience (especially after all the Loki issues). Thanks for clarifying the AYN and AyaNeo btw, I used to get them mixed up when I first started getting into the space cause I didn't know any better and I'm sure there will be others in the same boat too. Thanks man!
I have a question for all of you knowledgeable emulation people. When do you think the next version of the retroid pocket would be dropping? I was looking at the rp3+ and the rg405m (which I was gonna choose) but then realized both are about a year old now and idk if it would be wiser to wait for a new version that handles gamecube a little better
Us customers definitely know when a product we have no relation to will be coming out. It's coming out tomorrow. Believe me because I'm knowledgeable with emulation.
I could be wrong, and nothing official is out yet, but Retroid dropped a teaser for the rp4 over thanksgiving. Just a pic saying "What are you thankful 4?" So I would expect some info early 2024. As to when its out, total guess, but late 2024... 😊
@@Cavo1526 of course nobody knows for sure but that's the kind of info I was hoping for. I've been watching emulation videos for only around 3 weeks so I thought there would be some pattern in the release dates since there are more than 3 versions of the rp already. Thanks a lot ❤
Anbernic 405M and V are fun but even close as an odin 2, i bought the ambernic 405V because i thought i have to wait long until my odin arives germany. In the end i dont even wait a month for it (bought it on the Ayn website) and i can say there are worlds between These two devices
I agree that Odin 2 vs Steam Deck is an interesting and real comparison. However I think you've failed to mention that you can play Wii, Gamecube and PS2 at an upscaled 1080p resolution as well as great performance in FPS. These games simply don't look or perform as good on the Retroid Pocket 2 and Anbernic RG405M
I’d been had this internal debate since the Steam Deck Oled released, which one is really worth it? Odin 2 or the Steam Deck Oled? Idk man, idk I hate it
@@Carcosahead The way I look at it, the Steam Deck is more of a gaming PC alternative than anything else. The battery life isn't that great and the thing is big and loud. I don't see it as particularly practical for on the go gaming. It is more powerful though and will play "modern" PC games. It's more suited to gaming on the couch or somewhere like a hotel room or a relative's house. The Odin on the other hand is smaller, quieter, and has a better battery life. In my opinion, it's right on the edge of practicality for gaming on the go. It's large, but still small enough that it's not a chore to take it with you when you're on the go. It's perfect if you just want to play some N64 or Gamecube games while you're out of the house. It just depends on what you want. Personally, I wish I could get something with the power of the Odin 2, but in the footprint of a 3DS XL. Something you could reasonably fit in your pocket. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon though, so I might just pick up the Odin 2 or the pro version.
The Switch lacking game saves on the carts themselves or offering a way to put saves onto an SD card is enough reason alone for me to dump and play my Switch on devices like my Steam Deck. I can go between an amazing upscaled higher FPS game with mods to remove dynamic scaling or blur on my desktop or laptop and then play it on the PC handhelds with an experience similar if not better than the switch hardware and it's super easy to manage your saves. I just picked up a copy of Dragon Quest Monsters The Dark Prince and it says "Does not support cloud saves" on the back of it. A title released like a week ago?!??!
There’s a few games that don’t support cloud saves. All the main Pokémon switch games among them. I’m assuming in part to prevent the ability to dupe monster by trading, closing software, restoring from cloud. It’s frustrating that this was two companies solution to prevent duping in their monster collection games. Especially when you might actually need to restore a save for any legitimate reason.
Got my Odin 2 pro with the screen protector but had an issue where the case I ordered from backing this device never showing up! I emailed Ayn about this a week ago and no response yet. Great device but the customer service over here, kinda mid.
I would love to hear about it's cloud/streaming gaming potential (gamepass, steamlink, PS Remote Play, etc..) and compare it to Logitech G Cloud or PlayStation Portal that also just came out.
I honestly feel like you may as well get a steamdeck if you're going to do this at all. It has the cheap price or the other versions for more money, and can do everything here. And if that's not enough, wouldn't you get the ROG Ally?
I've never noticed before, but Bob's audio levels were all over the place in this video. I blame my new phone, having different speakers than I'm used to.
$369 for a handheld that can play switch games better than the switch and even the steam deck for the most part is actually an amazing deal, not to mention how small it is in comparison to even a regular Nintendo Switch.
Thx B for going back on that razer edge comment lol not just as an odin fan but i did spent a little time with the edge as well its not even a race i love my odin 2 base and yes it runs juat as well as the others even nintendo switch now with some updates
@@crisiswax nah I don’t really think there is. I think Bob just wants to focus on other things. That fact that Will joked about it on the podcast like that (Wulffden podcast) just makes me think there isn’t really much there it was just time.
14:39 bingo. This is me. I want to play Final Fantasy 12 for PS2 on a handheld but I also want to be able to emulate the switch Final Fantasy Pixel Perfect.
I would probably get one of those for "high end" mobile gaming, games that are more complex in the play store benefit from having controllers, and by having that big screen i could use it as a tablet.
I have a (LCD) Steam Deck and mostly recently a used Retroid 3+. I stopped buying consoles at about the PS3 stage (didn't play this one that much) and play far less than I used to. I play mostly emulated gameboy Tetris (90%) of the time. The rest of the time I will play Mr Driller (Dreamcast), Zookeeper (android) and Baku Baku animal (Saturn). The last one has been the most challenging to emulate but works on my current machines. The screen retroid is a bit small whilst the Stem deck is bulky to take travelling. I was considering an Odin 2. I noticed that my phone (Galaxy fold 5 ) has the same chipset as the Odin 2. I inserted into a gamesir x2 controller, but Baku baku animal would go black when rotating to fit into the gamesir. I was fiddling with the Yaba 2 app and chose openGL instead of vulkan and lo and behold, Bakubaku works with the rotated screen. I might not get an Odin 2 after all.
I've been considering about getting the Odin 2 for the past little bit. When I watched your video, I almost bought it... but then I started doing more research on this device. It seems to have growing issues with the screen and battery right now... Screen: some people got their new devices recently (past 4-5 months) and their screens arrived with dead pixels. From my research on Reddit, Ayn changed the policy with Odin 2's dead pixels a few times: initially, they would send you a replacement device promptly (9+ months ago)... then they send you a screen…. Then they give you a $10-15 refund… and now they would tell you this is the "Standard" of their screen and do nothing -- with 2-3 giant pixels. Battery: a growing number of user are reporting spicy pillows... the number is not too bad yet, but it's a bit concerning be cause it's not even a year yet... Ayn seems willing to replace it if you send it to China within the warranty period.
I think the only appealing aspect of having a console like this that can also do switch is that you don't have to mod a switch to do similar; and I feel like game wise, you'd want to do it to be able to run modded or hacked games. Animal Crossing is one good example with a pretty good modding scene, but Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl has an amazing one. Because it was created in Unity, fans have been able to do all kinds of stuff to the game from fixing following pokemon, bugs, and removing the chibi-artstyle, to adding in every single pokemon across every generation including Scarlet and Violet, and adding back stuff like Mega Evolutions (as well as silly stuff like "play as kirby"). It's very cool to have that as something you can turn and play on the go... (but also kind of sad the game couldn't do all this stuff already). It really seems like Pokemon BDSP is going to become the future Pokemon Fire Red in terms of creating hacked games and fan projects.
This is one of those things I would think about buying if I didn't already own a Galaxy S23 FE and a Galaxy TAB S9 Ultra which, especially both are very capable at emulation and Dockable to my TV, so it's like having a Switch for retro games and android games
I am not interested in Switch emulation, and that's even a tricky matter for a lot of reasons... I totally agree: if you want to play Switch games, just buy a Switch. But I definitely love the idea of upscaling PS2 and NGC games, and even use a handheld as a console to plug to TV: that's the main reason why I would consider an Odin2 (and also because it seems great with controls and ergonomics). However, I totally agree: price is an issue, and there's the Steam Deck just at the corner. Having something slightly less powerful, just to have 1080p PS2 without Switch emulation, around 250$ maybe, and in a smaller form factor, is what I would seriously consider (Retroid Pocket 4 hopefully).
My ROG Ally is great with some games…I mostly have to emulate Switch on PC. I also have an OLED switch and I buy the games I emulate…but the graphics for most games that are Mario are very dated.
The Retroid pocket 4 will be a great fit for you. By the way: When using emulation you can mod the games. Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 for example already runs breath of the wild with 60 FPS. something the switch will never be able to.
@@franzgucktyoutube When I wrote this comment, the RP4 Pro was not out yet. Now I can say that this device is the closest to my ideal handheld, but being honest I am still more than satisfied with my Retroid Pocket 2S, so I don't feel the need for an upgrade right now. I think also the upgrade to the RP4 Pro would not be worth, and this is because audio is better on the RP2S, as well as button positions (start and select in particular). I also need a really compact device, and RP2S is better also in this sense.
13:00 but it's not $460 because you don't need the max version or the pro version because 8 GB of RAM is plenty so it's $300. And I don't need to pay Nintendo $60 for every single game that I want regardless of how much time is past since it was released
How does it compare to the base z1 version of the rog ally? You can find them at best buy right now for $319 (open box) or $350 brand new.... you're point of just buying a switch instead is more about being able to do that and MORE as apposed to buying it just for that...i was interested in the odin 1 or loki moreso than the odin 2 (i like having the odin and loki logo in the bottom left 😄).... But again, considering the current sale at best buy for the rog ally i would like to know how it would compare considering it's even cheaper than the steam deck at the moment.
I think it is really easy for one to take the high-route on emulation and piracy when they get half their devices free and the price of games and consoles is not even close to an issue at their salaries.
I have a Steam Deck and love what it can do, but find that unless I specifically need it for a PC game running locally off the system, it isn't my go to. Too bulky, battery life is poor, etc. It's just not an ideal emulation machine and despite spending significant time setting up like 1tb of emulation on it I removed it all and dedicated my Tab S7+ to that role. Much better experience, infinite battery life, killer screen, PS2 is no problem. It was great. But carrying a tablet and 8bitdo controller isn't super portable either... so that's where this comes in perfectly. It's definitely a niche device and if you only want one machine then Steam Deck will absolutely do it all, it just isn't necessarily the best option if you can spread things out and delegate a bit.
Probably the most noob question, but I have to ask to find out. lol. After purchasing this handheld, does it come pre-loaded with the different systems and their games. Or how does that work exactly? Do you pay for games? Do you pay for the emulators? Etc. Thank you so much!
After playing with my odim 2 for a week now i can tell you it needs work. For one mine has slow download speeds, also when i try to pull menu down to see download progress or any other progress it does not work, its buggy and feels like an unfinished product. Im kind of wishing i would have waited for the pocket S or something.
Ok I have a question how well does Tony hawk American wasteland play for GameCube on these types of devices??? It’s one of the more harder games to play on gamecube
I'll be getting my new Steam Deck OLED in the mail tomorrow...so I'll have that, a Nintendo Switch, and the Powkiddy RGB30..I should be set for awhile...
The only real problem with the ayn Odin 2 pro that I experience a lot is after turning it off then when you turn it back on the touch screen is non responsive which forces you to hard reset it multiple times. Biggest pain yet
I think if I'm getting another handheld gaming device (I lost count with my numerous Nintendo Switches and singular Steam Deck) I'll get this one instead of a Steam Deck with OLED screen. But then again, my Ayn Odin 1 is also sitting in a drawer. Is this how it feels to be a video game console collector?
Why not the deck though? It can play so many more games, all the way op to moden Steam versions of xbox and ps4/ps5 titles on top of similar emulation capability.
@@Nucleosynthese It's too heavy to use for more than 10 minutes. If I'm connecting it to a TV and use a controller, I might as well connect my laptop or desktop computer to it.
@@yo.adrian Yeah, don't connect a deck to your TV. A PC is much more powerfull than any console and offers a far better experience there. I don't find the deck heavy at all though. To me it's quite comfortrable for longer play sessions.
Weird question. Do you know the guy behind Middleneck? Found them from music on your videos and when I looked him up I saw he's from/in Brooklyn. Wondering if that was a coincidence because my brain asks weird things like that sometimes.
Great review. I want this but on the other hand i have so bloody much games i havent played yet. I need 3 clones of me to even play the existing games :D
With shipping and tax it cost 500€ in EU, I bought a second hand switch lite for a 100 made it cheaped for a 100 and bought a 1to micro sd for a 100, so it's a total of 300€ for the ultimate handheld, and for the other game, I bought the new gamesir g8 it turned my phone to a perfect retro device
I've been wanting to get a retro handheld for a while now and just keep putting it off as don't want to bite the bullet and buy one that's too cheap or too dear. I have a switch but don't really play it, also have a modded PS Vita but just want 1 handheld that does it all including up to PS2 and possibly some switch games. Thing is I'm not great with tech and I'd be afraid if I soent that type of money, would I even know what to do after I get it. I've always wanted a handheld that holds all my favourite retro games from NES right up to PS2 and switch. Should I get the AYN Odin 2 or pro ??? What you think ???
I'm someone who will always prefer the ease of setting up a handheld device with Windows.. that said. With the current options available the Odin2 strengths lie within it's insanely impressive battery life and overall hardware quality. I DO NOT like Android or dealing with it's setup BUT it is the ONLY negative I have. The O2 destroys Steamdeck in every single way. My O2 PurpPro is the best powerhouse handheld I've ever owned
I preordered an Odin 2 to play ps2 and gamecube and honestly I'm dissapointed in the ps2 performance, everything is playable unlike on retroid 3+, or the Odin 1/Retroid 4, but there is still significant slowdown in Sly cooper and Ratchet and clank which are the first 2 games I've played with it. There might be a setting to fix this but I wanted to be able to just get the device and the roms and play with no fiddling. If I wanted to mess around in settings I would have just stuck with my anbernic 405v
What resolution did you play at? Did you use Vulkan or Open GL? What version of AetherSX2? Also if you have any emulation issue it's because of the emulators, not the device
@@RueLangston running Nethersx2 due to issues with Aether forcing an update that made things worse I've tried 2, 2.5 and 3x resolution with no differneces between them in regards to the slowdown, its usually when there are lots of projectiles on screen. I've been using the OpenGL renderer.
I just realized i've been an idiot in that i've been confusing the fan performace mode for the cpu performace mode, setting it to high has reduced the slowdown slightly but its still there in my tests
@@grilin18. Vulkan gets you better performance but either way I haven't tried Nethersx2 so I couldn't tell you. I have been using the older version of AetherSX2 from right before the one that added ads and worsened performance and they run flawlessly. If it's genuinely that bad then you might wanna lower your resolution a bit more ? There are patches you can find online very easily to improve your performance but it sounded like you weren't willing to go that route
@@RueLangston ill try vulkan for a bit, I was using the same version of aether as you are but mine kept being updated by the play store without permission so I'm using the nethersx build that is effectively the same but it disconnects it from the play store
I love that my snarky tweet about paying $11 per question showed up in this video 🙂
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Hey RetroGameCorps ! Love your vids ! 🔥🔥
Finally, a way to play my favorite Switch games on the go!
Nintendo needs to take some notes!
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It would be pretty cool if Nintendo developed a portable handheld of some kind. They're really far behind in that department
@@NationXyou mean like a switch portable? Ridiculous, too much of a good idea; they’d never.
@NationX you mean a handheld that run nintendo switch games at a stable fps and at least 720p
Thanks for this video I’ve had an Odin 2 base for over a month now and it’s amazing I would recommend you have the same keys as your firmware version and have force maximum GPU clocks and use asynchronous shaders are turned on in Yuzu! It drastically improves performance and the key/firmware thing fixes issues like the MK8 Deluxe MII issue! Also Aethersx2 is no longer in development so make sure you don’t grab the latest version you get version 3668 because it’s the same as the latest but it doesn’t have ads and make sure you turn off auto updates in the play store!
thanks for supporting this amazing creater
Good tips. Ill set that all up!
@@WulffDen awesome I have a steam deck as well but switch emulation on both of these devices is more for fun otherwise I’ll just play a game on my switch for locked fps, but for all emulation I’ll use Odin 2 and steam deck for modern experiences!
The mii issue in MK8 means he didn't install the switch firmware.
@@CaPiTaN3588 exactly what I said
At 53 years old, I'm a novice when it comes to emulation. I have a couple of Anbernic devices and had ordered an Odin 2 pro. I cancelled my order not because of the price, but because I wasn't sure if I would have a device that would do what I wanted to do. Which is retro emulation and Android games. A dedicated android device just for game is appealing to me. I ended up woth the Retroid Pocket 3+. It's the perfect device for learning emulation. Im just disappointed that it says Diablo Immortal isn't compatible with my device. I am still looking to get an Odin 2. I think it's a great device overall.
Worth every penny for me. I can now play almost every ps2 and gc game at 3x or 4x, 30 or 60fps locked (full speed) for around 7-9 hours straight
Does it have budokai tenkaichi??
@@NathanG64im pretty sure you can add it yourself
@@NathanG64 It doesn't come with any games or emulators. You have to add that stuff yourself.
Late as hell but this was genuinely my dream back when I saw the Shield portable running Half-Life and Portal over 10 years ago now.
How did you get the ps2?
I will say one thing: Switch emulation can be popular because it allows people to apply mods to their games! To do that on an actual Switch, you either need a very, very early iteration of the Switch for a physical exploit, or to pay out the nose to add a modchip.
You need a modded switch to emulate and get support so. Seems worth it to me!, plus v1 switch consoles are super cheap nowadays
What's kind of being neglected in terms of information about this device is that the 450 something dollar model comes with 512 gigabytes of storage and a micro SD card slot. This has all the internals of Galaxy s23 Ultra minus camera and phone for damn near $800 less... For an Android device that is pretty damn impressive
512 GB of storage 16 GB of RAM and a snapdragon 8 gen 2.. All things that you cannot find together in a device around $450
yeah but why? at that point shouldn't be better just go for a steam deck?
@ The benefits as far as I can see of using Android are that you have all the easy access to Android apps. Your Netflix and Hulu should work a lot better on there than they should the steam deck. Still a lot cheaper than buying an iPad
@portability and battery life. The steam deck is terrible for both.
I bought the Pro to flip. But now I'm keeping it, I keep trying to max it out w Burnout 3, but it just goes. It works in the lowest setting for power and fan management. MGS2/3 look better than what was available on the PS3 versions. It's almost weird how perfect everything runs. And the battery. I'm getting almost 9 hours of straight PS2 gameplay.
@Android OS is so much more user friendly. Things tend to just 'work' on it, I like Steam OS..
Great video! The big thing the Odin 2 has going for it is it's CPU. This is one of the cheapest devices I've seen with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 in it.
But at this price, I'd recommend a Steam Deck
@MrSujano That doesn't look like Aethersx2's website. Are there updates for the emulator?
agreed if one does not mind that the steam deck is much bulkier, weighs 50% more and battery life is only half of the Odin. I have both devices, since owning the odin I do not really use the deck any more.
Totally on board with the Switch emulation thoughts. When I was in school I totally would have been tweaking on it for hours "because I can" even if I had a Switch. But now that I'm in my 30s and have too much stuff to do, I just want to play games and not waste time screwing around making things work. I pretty much play all Nintendo games on real Nintendo hardware because everything else so far is a compromise. A real Switch just works, and everything I've seen/tried so far for DS emulation is so much worse than just using a DS.
I do have some of my PS2 and GameCube collection on my Steam Deck for convenience and if I don't want to go to the TV. Something like this would be cool for something smaller and lighter, and way longer battery life if you're not planning on playing bigger PC games on the go.
I feel you. It's fascinating for me to watch all these handheld work on emulators but I'm just too lazy to screw around to make things work. I don't play retro games but still playing nintendo. Just playing the real device itself make things work flawlessly. Also I play online a lot so Nintendo emulator was never a thing for me.
I am a retired network administrator. Back in my younger days I use to love tweaking on hardware and software to get stuff working. Thats how it was when I first started using Linux in the mid 90's. Today now that I am in my mid 50's, I guess I am just tired of trying to get things working right. I still like tweaking stuff, but not to the point that I use to. I just want things to work. There are so many of these devices these days, I feel that they should just work.
The savage joke about quitting the podcast during the comfort grip ad was gold 😂
For $299, the best value handheld by a mile. The Switch has 4Gb RAM, so it should be possible for all games to run well on the 8Gb Odin 2. Emulation gets better each day. That Snapdragon Gen 2 is amazing value when you compare the phones that it comes with. This demonstrates that great tech can be made, for a profit at a great price.
I would have thought that PS3 gameplay would be within it's reach.
Did you get the Bass model? I was thinking of getting it but all the reviews are all for the Pro or Max. How’s the performance?
@@Lasjah Firmware of the Odin 2 has been updated recently so that any model can use 4 additional GB of storage as swap. That has drastically improved Switch performance on the Base model.
@@franzgucktyoutube Thanks dude! Now I just have to wait until the Base model comes back in stock.
Ram doesn't work like that because I beleive The Xbox 360 has 512 MB of ram while It ran Fucking Metal gear solid 5 and GTA 5
Switch is arm based, Native code Execution (NCE) runs every arm base instruction from the processor directly on your android device since it is Also arm based, no emulation, its all Native, with some exeptions but in general thats what nce does
yes, that is why as of now even most AAA games from Nintendo run with fantastic performance
i think whats underrated about it is that if u compare it to like a steam deck for its price is the fact that the ayn odin is way smaller than the steam deck, runs quieter and arguably have the same if emulation capabilities
Let`s also mention the extra amount of play time you can get out of an android device when compared to PC/Linux!
It may have the same emulation capabilities but it also lacks the ability to play most of the steam library which kind of more than makes up whatever cost difference there is.
@@AwkwaBear I have a gaming pc for that. I think devices like this are more for retro games.
@@pistolao_vr Who's going to game on a handheld for more than a 2 to 3 hour session anyway? The Steam Deck gets anywhere from 3-7 hours of battery life whenever emulating games (dependant on emulator). It's not exactly what I class as being an insufficient amount for most people. Hell, access to being able to play AAA PC games, having a fully functional PC and being able to play 80% of Switch games fairly flawlessly on the Steam Deck (far more so than on the Odin), is in itself probably worth paying out an extra $150-$200 for those privileges. However, the fact that the 256GB LCD Steam Deck can now be picked up for £100 less than the Aya Odin 2 here in the UK, just turns the whole decision, into an instant "no brainer". Hell, you could even pick up a Retroid Pocket 2S alongside that Steam Deck and still come in under the £450 price of a Aya Odin 2. The Odin 2 is just too expensive for what it is. If it was a £250 - £300 handheld, then it would be one hell of a good deal and likely a must buy. However at £450 it just gets outclassed and bitch slapped by both the Steam Deck and the Z1 Ally, which are both in the same ballpark on price.
BTW, I've also got a feeling the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro due out next month for $200, will make the Odin 2 look terrible in comparison (around 75% it's performance for well under half the cost)
@@DarkSabrewulf123602 How retro is _retro?_ Is a PS4 a retro system? Does anybody want to play Atari 2600 for more than five minutes once? Something like this is overkill for OG Nintendo.
Why is the title "the best way to play switch games" if it can barely run switch games well? Isn't the steam deck way better for that?
Because it's clickbait that gets a video more views which = more money
Wait for Strato emulator this year
Because it's wullf den
why am I still subscribed this guy fell off so hard
It's mainly cause it's not the system's fault, but the driver for switch emulator. Once that get fixed, it will be a different story
He took a note out of wood from “beatemups” and clickbaited
I had a terrible issue with Ayn when i bought the first Odin Pro, i ordered a blue One, they made me wait 3 months more, then sent me a transparent one with broken leds
The ad is 🔥!!!😂 2:59 It had me on the ground rolling!🤣
I love the aesthetics of your videos and representation
I always watch these videos even if I have zero intent on buying the device. I always like what you have to say.
A big draw to me of the Odin 2 over a Steam Deck or ROG Ally is that it is an ARM device and thus has significantly better battery life when emulating PS2, GC, Switch, etc. I am also hopeful that through projects like Cassia we will see the ability to run Windows based x86 software through translation layers in the future.
But you miss out on the Steam Library.. There's so much more great stuff on there than just emulated games. I think that library adds a lot of value to the device. It even encludes pretty much all new Xbox titles and a good selection of ps4/ps5 titles like GoW and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
They're already working on making Linux compatible
tbh the other factor for me was weight. I got tired of holding the Steam Deck for long periods of time. @@Nucleosynthese
Well the steam deck OLED has a 50Wh battery vs 8000mah. So the power saving really doesn’t matter that much. It is a smaller device so that counts for something I guess.
@@derosecm it does, it does a lot, have you seen any actual tests?
The Steam Deck is my favourite for general emulation, I don’t know if it does Switch, but considering its popularity and accessibility, at least many have an emulation device now.
Steam Deck does Switch pretty well. With the current price drop for the LCD versions, it makes the Steam Deck a comparable price to the Aya Neo 2. Course if you only care about emulation, the Neo 2 has better battery life and is smaller.
I've been playing Switch games on a GPD Win 3 lately, recently got one, really love that device.
I would choose a Steam Deck above the Ayn Odin 2 any day of the week. That Steam library is just so huge, it adds so much value.
Just can't do the screen. OLED or not it's 720/800p. The PPI is booty.
steam deck is too big and has a terrible battery life. literally should not be considered a handheld at this point. I have large hands but it's still way too uncomfortable. imagine this with someone with average hand size.
enjoy your 2 hours of play time, steam deck needs a tether to a power bank
@@poffy02 I find it to be far more comfortable than the Switch to be honest. Battery life is more than enough, it's for use around the house. (also battery life is better when playing indie games)
@@pdj2975 2 hours is worst case scenario. 4 hours is more realistic, 7 hours if you play light indies. Nevertheless, I would have been okay with 1 hour. Who cares. This is to play in bed, on the plane, on the couch or in the backyard. I have never had an issue. Steam has the largest game library that has ever existed, that's where value is.
What a mad lad. Wulff Den didn't win a single TGA category, yet he's still posting videos with his head held high!!!
I love my Odin Lite. It's so good all the way up to PS2 and GCN games. It's the perfect size and feels great in my hand. I'd love an Odin 2 but I have so many handheld devices today including an Analogue Pocket, Steam Deck, and various others. Plus I just bought the Odin Lite about a year ago. Just can't justify the cost as much as I'd love to have one. I also have a Razer Kishi V2 and a Galaxy S23 Ultra phone that will perform better than the Edge.
the odin 2 is on par with your s23, as its the same cpu
"A yellow grip means you're about to quit the podcast with that person".
.....you take that back right now, sir!! Wood is a delicate soul and you'll break his little heart!
I did actually broke a nail while opening the microsd slot... 🥺
But great video! I was waiting to see what your thoughts were on the Odin 2. I bought it and pleasantly surprised by the whole purchasing experience (especially after all the Loki issues).
Thanks for clarifying the AYN and AyaNeo btw, I used to get them mixed up when I first started getting into the space cause I didn't know any better and I'm sure there will be others in the same boat too. Thanks man!
I find the Micro SD slot is un-openable without a tool.
since this runs on Android os, I can play android games on this right? So I can play Genshin and Star Rail with it and some of those rpgs.
yeah, any app on the google play store and any apk you want to run
was waiting for your odin 2 video for a while now, awesome
I have a question for all of you knowledgeable emulation people.
When do you think the next version of the retroid pocket would be dropping?
I was looking at the rp3+ and the rg405m (which I was gonna choose) but then realized both are about a year old now and idk if it would be wiser to wait for a new version that handles gamecube a little better
Us customers definitely know when a product we have no relation to will be coming out. It's coming out tomorrow. Believe me because I'm knowledgeable with emulation.
I could be wrong, and nothing official is out yet, but Retroid dropped a teaser for the rp4 over thanksgiving. Just a pic saying "What are you thankful 4?"
So I would expect some info early 2024. As to when its out, total guess, but late 2024... 😊
@@Cavo1526 of course nobody knows for sure but that's the kind of info I was hoping for. I've been watching emulation videos for only around 3 weeks so I thought there would be some pattern in the release dates since there are more than 3 versions of the rp already. Thanks a lot ❤
Crazy how they just announced it
@@RueLangston LMAO they knew i was wating for it
Gotta respect, Bobs honesty and the fact that his adds are actually worth watching. Cant think of many other youtubers with both of those qualities
Anbernic 405M and V are fun but even close as an odin 2, i bought the ambernic 405V because i thought i have to wait long until my odin arives germany. In the end i dont even wait a month for it (bought it on the Ayn website) and i can say there are worlds between These two devices
I agree that Odin 2 vs Steam Deck is an interesting and real comparison. However I think you've failed to mention that you can play Wii, Gamecube and PS2 at an upscaled 1080p resolution as well as great performance in FPS. These games simply don't look or perform as good on the Retroid Pocket 2 and Anbernic RG405M
I’d been had this internal debate since the Steam Deck Oled released, which one is really worth it? Odin 2 or the Steam Deck Oled? Idk man, idk I hate it
@@Carcosahead
Really not comparable
@@Carcosahead The way I look at it, the Steam Deck is more of a gaming PC alternative than anything else. The battery life isn't that great and the thing is big and loud. I don't see it as particularly practical for on the go gaming. It is more powerful though and will play "modern" PC games. It's more suited to gaming on the couch or somewhere like a hotel room or a relative's house. The Odin on the other hand is smaller, quieter, and has a better battery life. In my opinion, it's right on the edge of practicality for gaming on the go. It's large, but still small enough that it's not a chore to take it with you when you're on the go. It's perfect if you just want to play some N64 or Gamecube games while you're out of the house. It just depends on what you want.
Personally, I wish I could get something with the power of the Odin 2, but in the footprint of a 3DS XL. Something you could reasonably fit in your pocket. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon though, so I might just pick up the Odin 2 or the pro version.
@@Carcosaheadif you want to play pc games,buy steam deck.
Simple as that.
Please tell me a charger + cable for the Odin 2 Pro...
So far I read everywhere that there are problems with charging :/
The Switch lacking game saves on the carts themselves or offering a way to put saves onto an SD card is enough reason alone for me to dump and play my Switch on devices like my Steam Deck. I can go between an amazing upscaled higher FPS game with mods to remove dynamic scaling or blur on my desktop or laptop and then play it on the PC handhelds with an experience similar if not better than the switch hardware and it's super easy to manage your saves.
I just picked up a copy of Dragon Quest Monsters The Dark Prince and it says "Does not support cloud saves" on the back of it. A title released like a week ago?!??!
There’s a few games that don’t support cloud saves. All the main Pokémon switch games among them. I’m assuming in part to prevent the ability to dupe monster by trading, closing software, restoring from cloud.
It’s frustrating that this was two companies solution to prevent duping in their monster collection games. Especially when you might actually need to restore a save for any legitimate reason.
Got my Odin 2 pro with the screen protector but had an issue where the case I ordered from backing this device never showing up! I emailed Ayn about this a week ago and no response yet. Great device but the customer service over here, kinda mid.
I love that Bob threw shade on his leaving Nontendo podcast during the sponsorship segment.
"I played the drums... I played the drums!!!" -- This made me LOL
I would love to hear about it's cloud/streaming gaming potential (gamepass, steamlink, PS Remote Play, etc..) and compare it to Logitech G Cloud or PlayStation Portal that also just came out.
I honestly feel like you may as well get a steamdeck if you're going to do this at all. It has the cheap price or the other versions for more money, and can do everything here. And if that's not enough, wouldn't you get the ROG Ally?
Thank you for making this video. I've been struggling with buying this or not.
I've never noticed before, but Bob's audio levels were all over the place in this video. I blame my new phone, having different speakers than I'm used to.
$369 for a handheld that can play switch games better than the switch and even the steam deck for the most part is actually an amazing deal, not to mention how small it is in comparison to even a regular Nintendo Switch.
"if i catch you emulating any indie games i swear to fucking god"
hell yeah, bob has his priorities straight
Does the ayn Odin 2 come with games or do you have to download games for your self? And if you do where? 🤔 what if you are new to the emulator game.
no it does not come with Games, they are called ROMs when referring to emulation. Just use your own ROMs, otherwise Google might help you;-)
Thx B for going back on that razer edge comment lol not just as an odin fan but i did spent a little time with the edge as well its not even a race i love my odin 2 base and yes it runs juat as well as the others even nintendo switch now with some updates
"and if you have a yellow one that means you'll quit that podcast"
So damn funny and heartbreaking
I was shocked but I also laughed so hard haha
Can’t wait for Wills tell all drama video in 6 months (podcast reference)
@@mafel97 yeah, it's feeling more like there is some drama there. I thought I could see it during the podcast, but wasn't sure
@@crisiswax nah I don’t really think there is. I think Bob just wants to focus on other things. That fact that Will joked about it on the podcast like that (Wulffden podcast) just makes me think there isn’t really much there it was just time.
Why haven't you said anything about The Completionist and the Open Hand charity debacle?
He did, He supports The Completionist. Sad isn't it?
He mentions his new perspective on the latest nontendo podcast episode
14:39 bingo. This is me. I want to play Final Fantasy 12 for PS2 on a handheld but I also want to be able to emulate the switch Final Fantasy Pixel Perfect.
I would probably get one of those for "high end" mobile gaming, games that are more complex in the play store benefit from having controllers, and by having that big screen i could use it as a tablet.
Saving for this as a dedicated wuthering waves gaming handheld
I have a (LCD) Steam Deck and mostly recently a used Retroid 3+. I stopped buying consoles at about the PS3 stage (didn't play this one that much) and play far less than I used to. I play mostly emulated gameboy Tetris (90%) of the time. The rest of the time I will play Mr Driller (Dreamcast), Zookeeper (android) and Baku Baku animal (Saturn). The last one has been the most challenging to emulate but works on my current machines. The screen retroid is a bit small whilst the Stem deck is bulky to take travelling. I was considering an Odin 2.
I noticed that my phone (Galaxy fold 5 ) has the same chipset as the Odin 2. I inserted into a gamesir x2 controller, but Baku baku animal would go black when rotating to fit into the gamesir. I was fiddling with the Yaba 2 app and chose openGL instead of vulkan and lo and behold, Bakubaku works with the rotated screen. I might not get an Odin 2 after all.
Glad to see Satisfye is sponsoring you. I’ve been telling you for years to get a grip ! #wulffdendad
I've been considering about getting the Odin 2 for the past little bit. When I watched your video, I almost bought it... but then I started doing more research on this device. It seems to have growing issues with the screen and battery right now...
Screen: some people got their new devices recently (past 4-5 months) and their screens arrived with dead pixels. From my research on Reddit, Ayn changed the policy with Odin 2's dead pixels a few times: initially, they would send you a replacement device promptly (9+ months ago)... then they send you a screen…. Then they give you a $10-15 refund… and now they would tell you this is the "Standard" of their screen and do nothing -- with 2-3 giant pixels.
Battery: a growing number of user are reporting spicy pillows... the number is not too bad yet, but it's a bit concerning be cause it's not even a year yet... Ayn seems willing to replace it if you send it to China within the warranty period.
Would love to see you do more talking on the android games themselves
I think the only appealing aspect of having a console like this that can also do switch is that you don't have to mod a switch to do similar; and I feel like game wise, you'd want to do it to be able to run modded or hacked games.
Animal Crossing is one good example with a pretty good modding scene, but Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl has an amazing one. Because it was created in Unity, fans have been able to do all kinds of stuff to the game from fixing following pokemon, bugs, and removing the chibi-artstyle, to adding in every single pokemon across every generation including Scarlet and Violet, and adding back stuff like Mega Evolutions (as well as silly stuff like "play as kirby"). It's very cool to have that as something you can turn and play on the go... (but also kind of sad the game couldn't do all this stuff already). It really seems like Pokemon BDSP is going to become the future Pokemon Fire Red in terms of creating hacked games and fan projects.
Hahaha yellow means you will quit the podcast! I can hear Wood crying in the corner now.... 😂
This is one of those things I would think about buying if I didn't already own a Galaxy S23 FE and a Galaxy TAB S9 Ultra which, especially both are very capable at emulation and Dockable to my TV, so it's like having a Switch for retro games and android games
I am not interested in Switch emulation, and that's even a tricky matter for a lot of reasons... I totally agree: if you want to play Switch games, just buy a Switch. But I definitely love the idea of upscaling PS2 and NGC games, and even use a handheld as a console to plug to TV: that's the main reason why I would consider an Odin2 (and also because it seems great with controls and ergonomics). However, I totally agree: price is an issue, and there's the Steam Deck just at the corner. Having something slightly less powerful, just to have 1080p PS2 without Switch emulation, around 250$ maybe, and in a smaller form factor, is what I would seriously consider (Retroid Pocket 4 hopefully).
odin 2 has great switch emulation and I don't want a switch because of the shitty OS, android gives you much more
My ROG Ally is great with some games…I mostly have to emulate Switch on PC. I also have an OLED switch and I buy the games I emulate…but the graphics for most games that are Mario are very dated.
The Retroid pocket 4 will be a great fit for you. By the way: When using emulation you can mod the games. Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 for example already runs breath of the wild with 60 FPS. something the switch will never be able to.
@@franzgucktyoutube When I wrote this comment, the RP4 Pro was not out yet. Now I can say that this device is the closest to my ideal handheld, but being honest I am still more than satisfied with my Retroid Pocket 2S, so I don't feel the need for an upgrade right now. I think also the upgrade to the RP4 Pro would not be worth, and this is because audio is better on the RP2S, as well as button positions (start and select in particular). I also need a really compact device, and RP2S is better also in this sense.
13:00 but it's not $460 because you don't need the max version or the pro version because 8 GB of RAM is plenty so it's $300.
And I don't need to pay Nintendo $60 for every single game that I want regardless of how much time is past since it was released
I just love the clean design of the Odin 2, looks very premium (hence the price, get what you pay for here), easily my favourite handheld design.
How does it compare to the base z1 version of the rog ally? You can find them at best buy right now for $319 (open box) or $350 brand new.... you're point of just buying a switch instead is more about being able to do that and MORE as apposed to buying it just for that...i was interested in the odin 1 or loki moreso than the odin 2 (i like having the odin and loki logo in the bottom left 😄)....
But again, considering the current sale at best buy for the rog ally i would like to know how it would compare considering it's even cheaper than the steam deck at the moment.
Start using winlator. If they can make a cheap handheld that can play some pc games... Well that would be insane.
I think it is really easy for one to take the high-route on emulation and piracy when they get half their devices free and the price of games and consoles is not even close to an issue at their salaries.
Can you plug Ayn 2 to the TV?
yes you can
was he already saying he was going to leave nontendo at this point or was the ad in this video the stealth announcement?
I also had a good experience buying the original ayn odin pro.
The yellow satisfye grip @ 2:58 😂😂😂
Sponsor portion was 🔥 these guys need to double your pay
Bob is right. I am just a fun little silly guy havin' a little goof.
can you play online like with friends? i heard the Anbernic RG556 can.
I have a Steam Deck and love what it can do, but find that unless I specifically need it for a PC game running locally off the system, it isn't my go to. Too bulky, battery life is poor, etc. It's just not an ideal emulation machine and despite spending significant time setting up like 1tb of emulation on it I removed it all and dedicated my Tab S7+ to that role. Much better experience, infinite battery life, killer screen, PS2 is no problem. It was great. But carrying a tablet and 8bitdo controller isn't super portable either... so that's where this comes in perfectly. It's definitely a niche device and if you only want one machine then Steam Deck will absolutely do it all, it just isn't necessarily the best option if you can spread things out and delegate a bit.
Probably the most noob question, but I have to ask to find out. lol.
After purchasing this handheld, does it come pre-loaded with the different systems and their games. Or how does that work exactly? Do you pay for games? Do you pay for the emulators? Etc.
Thank you so much!
Watching this and seeing Yuzu again made me furious with Nintendo again! To hell with Nintendo!
After playing with my odim 2 for a week now i can tell you it needs work.
For one mine has slow download speeds, also when i try to pull menu down to see download progress or any other progress it does not work, its buggy and feels like an unfinished product.
Im kind of wishing i would have waited for the pocket S or something.
Ok I have a question how well does Tony hawk American wasteland play for GameCube on these types of devices??? It’s one of the more harder games to play on gamecube
what is that display at 18:53? Looks like a weird aspect ratio
I'll be getting my new Steam Deck OLED in the mail tomorrow...so I'll have that, a Nintendo Switch, and the Powkiddy RGB30..I should be set for awhile...
Can you show how to play old pc Games (PC 9800) like visual novels on the Odin 2 pro? Maybe with winlater or exagear?
The only real problem with the ayn Odin 2 pro that I experience a lot is after turning it off then when you turn it back on the touch screen is non responsive which forces you to hard reset it multiple times. Biggest pain yet
I absolutely love my Odin 2 Pro I don't regret this purchase even a little 😁
Same here.
Not the yellow grip
What do you suggest that’s affordable to play ps2 game Ive games? I just wanna be Fatal Frame2 and Eternal Darkness 😔
I think if I'm getting another handheld gaming device (I lost count with my numerous Nintendo Switches and singular Steam Deck) I'll get this one instead of a Steam Deck with OLED screen. But then again, my Ayn Odin 1 is also sitting in a drawer.
Is this how it feels to be a video game console collector?
Why not the deck though? It can play so many more games, all the way op to moden Steam versions of xbox and ps4/ps5 titles on top of similar emulation capability.
@@Nucleosynthese It's too heavy to use for more than 10 minutes. If I'm connecting it to a TV and use a controller, I might as well connect my laptop or desktop computer to it.
@@yo.adrian Yeah, don't connect a deck to your TV. A PC is much more powerfull than any console and offers a far better experience there. I don't find the deck heavy at all though. To me it's quite comfortrable for longer play sessions.
Weird question. Do you know the guy behind Middleneck? Found them from music on your videos and when I looked him up I saw he's from/in Brooklyn. Wondering if that was a coincidence because my brain asks weird things like that sometimes.
What about this vs the ambernic win 600?
Odin 2 obviously.
Great review. I want this but on the other hand i have so bloody much games i havent played yet. I need 3 clones of me to even play the existing games :D
How do DS, Wii, 3DS and WiiU games run?
Nintendo ninjas want to know your location
With shipping and tax it cost 500€ in EU, I bought a second hand switch lite for a 100 made it cheaped for a 100 and bought a 1to micro sd for a 100, so it's a total of 300€ for the ultimate handheld, and for the other game, I bought the new gamesir g8 it turned my phone to a perfect retro device
Doesn't the steam deck do the job better? Should I buy this?
I realized I only play switch and retro games, so instead of carrying two devices I’ll just carry the Odin 2
Even someon who owns a Switch can benefit from one device that can run those games and tons of others
I would like to see how these work running winlator, so we can see how this can work playing some pc games and potentially pc emulators.
With the Steam Deck getting as low as 300 dollars you gotta really want one of those to chose an Odin instead of a Deck.
I've been wanting to get a retro handheld for a while now and just keep putting it off as don't want to bite the bullet and buy one that's too cheap or too dear. I have a switch but don't really play it, also have a modded PS Vita but just want 1 handheld that does it all including up to PS2 and possibly some switch games. Thing is I'm not great with tech and I'd be afraid if I soent that type of money, would I even know what to do after I get it. I've always wanted a handheld that holds all my favourite retro games from NES right up to PS2 and switch. Should I get the AYN Odin 2 or pro ??? What you think ???
@10:30
Andy(?) from Retro Game Corps?
If I'm getting it just for the PS2 and game cube games at perfect run speed etc should I be fine grabbing a base model oden 2?
I'm someone who will always prefer the ease of setting up a handheld device with Windows.. that said. With the current options available the Odin2 strengths lie within it's insanely impressive battery life and overall hardware quality. I DO NOT like Android or dealing with it's setup BUT it is the ONLY negative I have. The O2 destroys Steamdeck in every single way. My O2 PurpPro is the best powerhouse handheld I've ever owned
Where do we find roms???? I don't have any and I don't know what source to trust!
I preordered an Odin 2 to play ps2 and gamecube and honestly I'm dissapointed in the ps2 performance, everything is playable unlike on retroid 3+, or the Odin 1/Retroid 4, but there is still significant slowdown in Sly cooper and Ratchet and clank which are the first 2 games I've played with it. There might be a setting to fix this but I wanted to be able to just get the device and the roms and play with no fiddling. If I wanted to mess around in settings I would have just stuck with my anbernic 405v
What resolution did you play at? Did you use Vulkan or Open GL? What version of AetherSX2? Also if you have any emulation issue it's because of the emulators, not the device
@@RueLangston running Nethersx2 due to issues with Aether forcing an update that made things worse I've tried 2, 2.5 and 3x resolution with no differneces between them in regards to the slowdown, its usually when there are lots of projectiles on screen. I've been using the OpenGL renderer.
I just realized i've been an idiot in that i've been confusing the fan performace mode for the cpu performace mode, setting it to high has reduced the slowdown slightly but its still there in my tests
@@grilin18. Vulkan gets you better performance but either way I haven't tried Nethersx2 so I couldn't tell you. I have been using the older version of AetherSX2 from right before the one that added ads and worsened performance and they run flawlessly. If it's genuinely that bad then you might wanna lower your resolution a bit more ? There are patches you can find online very easily to improve your performance but it sounded like you weren't willing to go that route
@@RueLangston ill try vulkan for a bit, I was using the same version of aether as you are but mine kept being updated by the play store without permission so I'm using the nethersx build that is effectively the same but it disconnects it from the play store