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One of the hardest things a Filipina will have to do is MANAGE EXPECTATIONS, hers/HER FAMILY'S/friends. Just because a foreigner has money does NOT mean they do and they are NOT entitled to it. A relationship can be just as easily destroyed by her actions/behaviors as it can by her family/friends. When meeting a Filipina, one of the things you need to talk about right up front is both of your intentions and EXPECTATIONS, if BOTH of you don't agree and stick to them, you need to move on early before it becomes a serious relationship. If you give, you are setting a precedent you will always give, and it'll become more and more. You don't reward poor behavior in a child, why would you do it with adults that aren't financially responsible for themselves? A family that expects you to pay for the "privilege" of dating their daughter makes them nothing more than pimps and their daughter a prostitute. If that's what you are looking for, just go to Angeles City and rent a woman for the night, it'll be cheaper.
That is the mindset in the Filipinos and Filipinas. They don't care about foreign husband or bf. Its your money 💰 and your status in the west they are interested in. Most of them, anyway not all of them to generalise all Filipinos. Everything Gio is saying 100%. Gold digger and exploitation mindset in The Philippines. That's why I avoided Cebu like a plague in since 2014
Hi Gio, I had the same experience in Thailand with the same woman twice! And I sat there through the bbq into the afternoon and I could see the way this was going family would turn up from everywhere! Then when I returned to the uk I said I'm not doing this anymore because every time I come to see you I end up paying for everything even though I am the guest! Like you happy to make a contribution but not for everything. However my very nice older Filipina lady now is totally the opposite and I'm very happy! Congratulations on your wedding and hope you both have a successful happy life together! Regards David
I do understand and appreciate your comments. I married a girl from Bacolod in 1973. I was in the military. All this happened to us but on a smaller scale. I will not even visit the Philippines, Nor ever move back. Relatives still ask my wife for the moon. We have given them a fortune over the years. I care deeply for my wife but, her family is draining her! Congratulations on your marriage! Maya seems perfect!
My experience through online conversations is that when a Filipina says “help me with this or that”, it generally means taking full financial responsibility of the whole thing. Help me generally means pay for the whole thing.
I have had a few experiences like that happen to me. You are right, a foreigner here has to ask a lot of questions when invited to events. Sadly, hospitality comes with a price sometimes.Back home when we get invited to someone's family get-together we would not expect to be handed the bill.
I'm glad I watched this video! My fiance and I are planning an engagement party in Jan/Feb in Camotes. To cure this situation.. Ive already told her how much we can/will spend. I'm leaving the responsibility to her to budget. She's a smart woman and understands that the amount I set is all we have to spend. We'll see how it pans out.. ;)
Similar story. I argued against a Filipina. She would often think that she MUST go to an event every time she is invited. I went with her a few times. I declined the rest of the invitations. She berated me on some of my rejections. I pointed out that a number of Filipinos will lock on to her pattern. Then, they take advantage of her. She proved me right ✅ She pulled the tampo BS on me. I chewed her out. All that FU melodrama that I see in Latinas in a Telenovela came from her! 🙄 She was in the Sadness phase of Kubler Ross. After the 20th time, she accepted what I said. Lesson 1: invitation =/= obligation. Corollary 1. Filipinos are similar to Latinos. You marry 1 = you marry the family 👪. Lesson 2. Set the limitations early. When the Pinay tests it, drop her like a drop of the hat 👒. She gotta follow what fellow San Francisco native 🌁 Clint Eastwood said 50 years ago 🎂 in Magnum Force, "A man has got to know the limitations."
Gio Thank you for sharing your story about being scam and being honest about it I appreciate it sir. Congratulations 🎉 on getting married to maya im Happy for y'all
If two people were ever destined to be together it was you and Maya, I've followed you and Maya from the biggining and thought yes here's the girl that's for him perfect in many ways, wish you both and long and happy marriage and great life ahead , bless you both❤
Yep! I met my wife on CF last Oct 14th! We live chatted everyday and night before she went to bed for over 6 months, I met her in person on March 9th, got engaged and were married on April 29th! Going on 7 months of Marriage this Nov 9th! I'm so happy for you and Maya! May God Bless you and your little Girl!
It's not your responsibility to turn into detective Columbo anytime she suggests an activity. If she's willing to set you up to be fleeced, she's let go on the spot. No questions asked or excuses.
I don't agree, better to know before hand and draw boundaries. If the boundaries are not respected then let them loose. Many Filipinos are on the make (oppotunists), I was in Malate on a Saturday night, just exploring, there was an open air bar and band so being hot I stopped for a beer. I sat down and ordered a beer insisting on paying for it on arrival rather than running up a tab. So a group of Filipinos on the next table invited me to join them, I politely declined. 1. Don't run up tabs where you lose track of what you have ordered, 2. Be wary of the kindness of strangers unless you are happy to be left paying for the entire groups night out drinking. You work out pretty quickly that the majority of people who approach you unsolicited are on the make and you being a foreigner look like the most likely sucker. Cheers Aussie John
Here is the filipino way from my observations and my history of dealing with the Philippines 🇵🇭 since 1999. I have a quote I made up for my dealings here: " If the money 💰 ain't flowing, I ain't going"!! In other words, you have to come correct with the funds if you want any chance of fun!! I, too, almost got scammed, but put a quick stop to it before it happened, I call it " The bus going to Manila scam" I saw through it and said a big " NO" ! I will leave it that on this forum. They will try you hard and really expect you as a " big money foreigners" to comply and just give in, no matter what!! Like Nancy Reagan said, " Just say "No", no truer words have been spoken, especially for a place like the Philippines. Trust me!! Congrats G man and Maya on your recent nuptials, wish all your future endeavors 2gether are great and adventurous.❤🎉😊!! A lot has been going on in my world and not all gravy, B'lieve dat! All be blessed, safe, healthy, happy, aware, smart, prosperous, and great(compassionate). Much love to all, especially the newly weds and Princess daughter!! Trudat!! Real talk&Nuff!! Thurl G money smooth ( a lot of my nicknames combined) ghost, roger out, peace y Adios 🙏!! Lol!! 😂❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
This happened to me in El Salvador, party situation that I paid for everything and then a half dozen extra people showed up to finish off the booze and food while I was asleep. Definitely going to happen in any country one goes with poverty, I am sure they will always enjoy laughing about the good times they had at my expense.
If you're a newbie, and if someone asks you to pay for something, just say that you only have P500 or P1000 for your own fare, max 3000 or any amount you are willing to give (even if you are carrying more than that). If they insist just stick to your story and say I'm sorry this is the only cash I have, you should have told me earlier before we left.
100% I agree with you. I've been scammed too, like you, several times, in my visits there. I will not go into details, but yes, this is what makes me apprehensive each time I visit Pinas. A shame because they think it's a joke. I'll be visiting again next year but I know what to do this time. Cheers!
I would tell a Filipina, "I've heard that some Filipino families expect Foreigners to pay for everything, including get togethers and events that they (Foreigners) didn't arrange. While I consider myself generous, that sort of tactic isn't going to fly with me."
I mean what in the world would these ppl have done had you said nah I’m not paying for this. They really just assume ppl will pay if you make it awkward on the foreigner. I’ve heard too many stories and I will have no problem saying no If someone tries to play me like this. I’ve learned a lot from you Gio, I would have been an easy target I think. thanks for preparing me.
It wouldn’t matter how many questions you asked or what information you got, many times the answer will be yes to you. Then comes the truth after the fact. If a girl pulled that shit with me it would be done as soon as the party ended. My gf has never pulled that crap with me. Her family has never coaxed her into anything and they barely have a pot to piss in. But because of me, and the help her parents give my gf with our daughter, they live pretty well off on my expense, and I don’t mind one bit. My daughter loves having her Mala and Palo around.
Being out in the province alone ( jungle ) as apposed to a city makes a big difference in your options. It was probably wise to just go along in that situation because it doesn't just affect the family it affects the people who cooked sold and delivered the roast pig. This would have caused big problems for the family they would have" lost face" may not have gotten out alive. IMO.
@@GiointhePhilippines under the circumstances you did the right thing. I do think the family coerced her into doing that. With a family like that I feel sorry for her.
i got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of pesos on my first relationship in the philippines.i hope one day Gio i can meet you and tell my story.Fortunately i am ok now and moved on, but your video made me realise how this type of thing happens to so many unsuspecting tourists/travellers in the philippines.
Me too..! Back in my 1st trip to the Philippines Christmas 2000'.. on leave from the Navy and on a whim, I had a San Diego travel agent set up a 10 day trip. I was 34, fit, fresh faced, good looking and naive. NO BIG DEAL.. but I wasted or was taken advantage of to the tune of $500 by a Filipina and her family during 5 days in Pangasinan. "Lesson learned".. and who knows, maybe a valuable lesson that saved my money on later trips. Now.. 2023'.. I'm 57.. no longer young, no longer good looking and no longer naive. I am absolutely scam proof. haha true ** The type of girl who starts asking.. especially when you barely met.. that's a GREAT signal to head out. Those who don't look out for your best interests.. they are not keepers.
Well said Curtis hahaha 😅. I learned from my sweet and sour experience in Cebu in 2014. I stopped going back to that Island. I still love the Philippines 🇵🇭 and still visit friends on other islands but always alert 100% how I move there MGTOW style ever since.
This toxic entitled mentality has been going on forever in the Philippines as far I know from 1st and 2nd trip to the Philippines in 2008 from the UK. Thats why I am not surprised other foreign men has similar experiences there.😂😅. They know how to charm their way into our wallets because we are supposedly "walking ATM's" £$€¥ lol
I'm a Filipina, and just hearing what this Filipina and her family did to you makes me want to shame all of them. I hate people taking advantage of foreigner. Most of this kind of filipino lives in the province and mostly, uneducated, just wanting to taste a little bit of "feeling rich", by means of having a little bit of relationship with a foreigner. To the rest of new to thr Philippines, be careful.
@Elizabeth, You dont know what you are talking about "only poor uneducated Filipinas do that" Really? hahaha you don't know my story. My ex Filipina fiancee is educated and all her siblings have good jobs in The Philippines they are from a big family clan on one of the Mindanao Islands. The wanted my money and to control my movement and itinerary in The Philippines 🇵🇭. Coming from the UK that is not going to happen and when their ridiculous expectations crossed my red line I told my ex to go f herself. These are well off middle class Filipinos it was disgusting. Only the Uncle of my ex fiancee had the decency and honesty to expose my ex fiancee he told me be careful and not to rush and marry her and they threatened him in my presence. After that encounter I cut that relationship off back in 2014. So don't tell me it's "Poor Filipinas". It is nothing but GREED some middle class Filipinas and her family especially the so call "Mother In Law" my ex fiancée's Dad easy going nice man but he has been totally emasculated by his wife.
I lasted 21 months because of those instances. "" We need help"" is the worst phrase. Just don't attend any family function. Always say "i forgot my wallet" but keep some money in your shoe. BTW congratulations to both of you. I really hope your plans and dreams are special. This is from the heart. I just couldn't last in the filipino market and culture. Im now living in a peaceful country of El Salvador. Violence has been removed, many people walking the streets now late at night, such as i. I love living here.
Even Filipinos who go back to the Philippines are annoyed with the culture you just described. The people there especially relatives expect you to pay for everything when you visit them. Even those who are not related to me are expecting me to pay for everything just because I came from the US. Not only that, they borrowed money and you will never know when are they going to pay back. The government there should really do something to create jobs so that people stop being leach with no shame. They should also educate people to only have kids that they can afford since lots of kids are begging on the streets or working early instead of being a kid.
A lesson I was taught: When I rely on someone else I'm setting myself up for failure and resentment. NEVER travel without your own transportation. I almost ran out of gas in those very mountains that you speak of so I'm familiar with the area. Not a good situation to be stuck there. I also remember the very first time I stayed in Moalboal. The resort provided a van from Macyan airport to resort and I think that was only 3.5k. 5 or 6k sounds a bit high. Bringing your own transportation, you'll always have an out. Ahhhh, life in the Philippines
During the drive there when you were told that you had to pay for the van, I personally would of told the driver to pull over in the nicest way I could and got out. I wouldn't care whether it was in the middle of no where or not. There's no way I would of paid for and tolerated that. This Filipina would of had 0% chance with me after this incident. What a great guy you are to go along with it all with a fake smile and not cause a problem, I couldn't of did that. I was scammed once before as well for 13,000 pesos when I was trying to rent a place in Manila, I learned the hard way that time. It won't happen again, live and learn. Thanks for sharing this story!
@@GiointhePhilippines Stuff like that where I was too nice in the past eats me up. Our experiences make us who we are, wisdom always comes with a price.
The only way out of this type of set up is to not go in the first place, especially "family" trips. Assume any trips to "the province" as fishing expeditions into your wallet. You want to go, set up all aspects, including transportation on your own.
My wife of 45 years was a local born Filipina in Hawaii. Her dad came over from PI in 1946 and her mom born in Hawaii. When my f-i-l retired he went back to the PI to "borot" with my m-i-l. Well the town he was born in threw a party in my in-laws honor and at the end presented them with a bill for the party. Haha
i knew my GF, now wife for 7 months before i went. I knew their situation so when I arrived I knew I would have to cover some of the events. 7 1/2 years later still going strong. (All 13 of us 🤣) but I don't mind a bit. The kids make it worth it. Not a dull moment and so much fun 🥰🥰
Some of the locals need to manage their expectations. I’m big on being straight with people and that’s out of order. if an expat is there living off 75,000 pesos a month they can’t afford to spend 10,000 pesos on a day out.
It sounds like one has to keep his guard up, Which stands to reason, in a new Country Until one can be comfortable and relaxed somewhere in the future 🙂
I want to thank guys like you and other TH-camrs that are there in the Philippines and know all the scam and situation with those women. I just had one ask 22.000 pesos for some stuff, I’ve been talking to her for only 2 weeks, very pretty but, red flag so I flushed here. So, thanks a lot guys for the warnings you give us newbies.
Been there, when my x wife's family would call, I said the vacuum just started. Yup sucking money out of our account. When I started asking details the stink eye started, she gave me two beautiful kids I got to raise on my own, I'm very grateful for that.
One of my Bros married a Thai girl. She's great, but she had to pretty much cut off her extended family back in Thailand due to them constantly trying to leech money.
I’ve heard some of the women say it bothers them that family never reaches out just to say hey or ask how she’s doing, they just jump straight to the favor they need.
A friend invited me to her birthday party at her parents home. this would be the first time I will meet her family....When I arrived at 6pm a group of people were gathered outside around a table singing karaoke and sharing a bottle of Emparador.... I soon realized that the bottle would be empty in another 30 minutes and that it was the only alcohol available ....there was also a small bowl of pancit in the kitchen and that was all the food they had for the forty people that were there .....now I realized why I was invited to the party that was supposed to last until the next morning ....I was suppose to be the one to pay for the food and drink for every one there ....surprise. Calmly I gave the bd girl P2000P and told her I was leaving because I was not feeling well .....lesson learned.....next time I am invited to a celebration I will respectfully decline because of other plans made at that time and offer a donation to help make the event a success.
The experience you gain is worth more as it has help you to have contents for your channel that will be beneficial for others. Bad things are sometimes good for future endeavour.
I agree with others that it is very unfortunate but you did not get hurt, you learned very quickly what she was like and it only cost you 10K. I have had to learn some hard lessons here as well. Perhaps that is the price of being a decent human and being trusting, sometimes you get burned. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
The bigger problem was they didn't use you to improve their lives such as putting the money to work to better their condition. They used you deceitfully with obvious malice. I'd have told her I didn't have any money on me and got off the van right then.
Better to just speak truth. No reason to say you didn't have money. Just say, please stop the van, and leave. Tell her she is deceitful girl, then walk away.
In the Philippines, I'd turn 95% of invitation down with a straight face just like I do in Dominican Republic and not care if I'm seen as rude. Not interested in coming to your house to eat or play games or party for I know the pig gets fatten before the slaughter. Always be on the move, hello and good bye is a great way to keep your a$$ out of uncomfortable nonsense.
So you mean to tell me that you let them all down by not paying for the clown, magician and pony rides they had lined up. You should be ashamed of yourself Gio.
Both vans and lechon have to be ordered ahead of time. They had the money and HAD planned on paying for it themselves, but then she got you to tag along and... well you know... you're the "rich" foreigner.
I wonder if you could avoid this by asking her beforehand "Do I need to bring any money to this event?" And if she says no, then call her bluff with "Ok, I'm going to leave my wallet at home then." That way, if she knew you were gong to be expected to pay for anything, she'd have to tell you then. And if she didn't know it but then the family did end up expecting it, you could put it on her with "Sorry, she told me to leave my wallet at home."
When rich "GI" accepts gathering with impoverished girl and her family, be ready to foot all bills. This ain't Kansas, she already sized you up for the Free Lunch. Hindsight is 20/20, only accept gathering when you really want her part of your life, Philippina family and all.
When you are a newbie, how do you know the right questions to ask? You just get stuck, but what if you told them you only had 1000 pesos on you at the time? I got caught sort of like that on my first trip to the Philippines. I was in Maasin, Leyte on my last night on my trip after meeting a girl on line. She ask me lets go out for dinner for our last night together. I said ok, lets do it. So I was to meet her at the restaurant at the motel I was staying at. That night I go to the restaurant to meet up with her and then at the table, I noticed 8 more people with her. Well guess what, I had to pay for everyone's meal. Left a sour taste in my mouth and it was only about 60 dollars, but still, no communication, no heads up, but I didn't ask her, was it just the two of us.
lmao why didn't you turn around when you saw 8 ppl at the table. I don't care how much it is, don't play me, I'm not going to go along with it. Not someone I would want to spend time with, I would have just left.
Greetings I've never met a bad Filipino Been there many times Never cheated robbed scammed heart broken Guess good luck BUT I won't retire there Why not ? It's too hot humid typhoons Gasoline gas electricity food Too expensive due to high taxes Red tape beaurocracy Food quality and selection bad unhealthy Loud crowded stinky Kids begging depressing Constant power failures slow Internet You lose rights voting gun freedom of speech and can't own land and you pay immigration for this privilege I never eat fast food but wanted to try cheese burger at mc Donald's Omg was that meat ? Just awful Again I like Filipinos I admire how they survive with such low wages. there is a reason there are 10 million living abroad and millions more trying to escape
I had a similar situation. It was one family member, that the rest of the family didn’t like or trust, who manipulated, lied, and orchestrated about 8000 pesos, that ultimately came from my pocket. Stupid B. Stupid me. Like you said the answer is to ask questions and always be on the watch for being used. Always ask who is going? Who’s paying for this?
Unfortunate story. That's why if one of our relatives will meet and greet their foreigner we not will join them. Because we will avoid the empression of just aftering the money. The foreigner husband or bf our relatives coming here in the Phil we will not visit their home. We will keep away ourselves from them. We do not want to be there extra expense. If we met them we just simply say hi to our relatives but not to attached. Because when it comes to money we know how vuluable it is. It's not easy to earn it. We need to work hard for it.
Haha dam. It's the opposite for us muslims. Who ever invites you to dinner, handles all the cost. But even then i feel guilty! i try to contribute then the arguments of don't contribute / i want to contribute lol. 3 hours later, i give in and not contribute. But a good guest doesn't complain about what he is served. Just appreciate it, if u don't like it eat less.
This is a cautionary tale. Guys, do not go to BFE with a girl you don't know well. You wouldn't do it in the US, why would you do it here? You're just way too vulnerable. Keep her on neutral turf until you know her. You'd better be asking questions. Asking the same questions multiple times and see if you get the same answers each time. Be smart, gents.
This sounds very familiar to what happened to me. You're pretty much stuck paying for everything. I paid 8,000 for the letchon and a few more thousand for some other things. I have money but it drained the pesos I had on me at the time. I had to stop at an ATM on the way back to pay the driver 4,000 pesos... 🤦
That was the price of an education you received. Actually you got off cheap compared to lessons some guys have had to learn the hard way. Every guy goes through this. Is it painful… of course, but part of the learning curve.
So what happens if you didn't have the money ? Also If you said you would not be able to go who was going to pay for the van and the pig.and lastly I would have said to the driver to pull over and let me out and get a taxi back to the city let them figure it out.
My friend from America married a pina they had a man an lady arranged they marriage contract an party. Now what happened was the man an the lady was scammer. The party an wedding was all fake they lady an man there at the wedding an party enjoy dancing an singing drunk. Button line all was a scam. The couple had to get married an celebrated they wedding again this happened in Davao. 15 years ago.
The feeling of stuck is a big issue in the Philippines that few vloggers talk about which is the experience of most foreigners usually comes after marriage + the construction of a new house.
Lol…. Basically the girl traded a few hundred dollars for what could have been a long term relationship. Some people are very short sighted. That’s one reason why some Filipinos continually struggle. They trade a little money now for what could be a good long term thing. My girlfriend, who lived in the Philippines until she was 14, gets scammed like this too so don’t feel too bad. She’s purchased land from “relatives” and “friends” that was way overpriced. Fortunately for her, the land has greatly increased in value right after. The first time that I visited the Philippines with my girlfriend, her great uncle threw a big party for us. There were 3 roasted pigs and probably at least 30 guests (family, relatives, friends, etc…). He did pay for everything, but I guess that I could have been easily scammed just like you were.
Or die. I have chipped in for many funerals. I agree that expats should not not date until you are there. There is no way to know for sure if they are being truthful or not in an online relationship. @@GiointhePhilippines
Sorry to hear you got scammed Gio, it happens to everyone. But honestly you got off cheap, 10,000 php ? I got scammed by buying my ex filipina gf a new motorbike because she needed transportation to school....guess what, she didn't know how to ride it but her brother did and he wasn't going to teach her to ride so basically it was his now ! Not to mention all the $$$ I gave her family and the fact her brothers didn't work and had no desire to.....and get this, the last straw, she wanted me to buy land there and build a house ! Yeah right, so her brothers could move in....( I know foreigners can't own land in the Philippines ) they would most likely kick me out ! Needless to say we broke up, now she's some other foreigners problem. You got off cheap Gio , scams are everywhere in the Philippines.....just let the foreigner pay for it because he's rich ! The old saying....live and learn.....if you don't " learn" in the Philippines you'll either be broke, in jail, or dead. Been there, done that. Congrats on your marriage Gio, you and Maya make a great couple !
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I lived there. When people found out they couldn’t scam me, I didn’t get scammed. Basically, they didn’t really like me.
One of the hardest things a Filipina will have to do is MANAGE EXPECTATIONS, hers/HER FAMILY'S/friends. Just because a foreigner has money does NOT mean they do and they are NOT entitled to it. A relationship can be just as easily destroyed by her actions/behaviors as it can by her family/friends. When meeting a Filipina, one of the things you need to talk about right up front is both of your intentions and EXPECTATIONS, if BOTH of you don't agree and stick to them, you need to move on early before it becomes a serious relationship. If you give, you are setting a precedent you will always give, and it'll become more and more. You don't reward poor behavior in a child, why would you do it with adults that aren't financially responsible for themselves? A family that expects you to pay for the "privilege" of dating their daughter makes them nothing more than pimps and their daughter a prostitute. If that's what you are looking for, just go to Angeles City and rent a woman for the night, it'll be cheaper.
That is the mindset in the Filipinos and Filipinas. They don't care about foreign husband or bf. Its your money 💰 and your status in the west they are interested in. Most of them, anyway not all of them to generalise all Filipinos. Everything Gio is saying 100%. Gold digger and exploitation mindset in The Philippines. That's why I avoided Cebu like a plague in since 2014
Hi Gio, I had the same experience in Thailand with the same woman twice! And I sat there through the bbq into the afternoon and I could see the way this was going family would turn up from everywhere! Then when I returned to the uk I said I'm not doing this anymore because every time I come to see you I end up paying for everything even though I am the guest! Like you happy to make a contribution but not for everything.
However my very nice older Filipina lady now is totally the opposite and I'm very happy!
Congratulations on your wedding and hope you both have a successful happy life together!
Regards David
I do understand and appreciate your comments. I married a girl from Bacolod in 1973.
I was in the military. All this happened to us but on a smaller scale.
I will not even visit the Philippines, Nor ever move back. Relatives still ask my wife for the moon.
We have given them a fortune over the years.
I care deeply for my wife but, her family is draining her!
Congratulations on your marriage! Maya seems perfect!
My experience through online conversations is that when a Filipina says “help me with this or that”, it generally means taking full financial responsibility of the whole thing. Help me generally means pay for the whole thing.
I have had a few experiences like that happen to me. You are right, a foreigner here has to ask a lot of questions when invited to events. Sadly, hospitality comes with a price sometimes.Back home when we get invited to someone's family get-together we would not expect to be handed the bill.
I'm glad I watched this video! My fiance and I are planning an engagement party in Jan/Feb in Camotes. To cure this situation.. Ive already told her how much we can/will spend. I'm leaving the responsibility to her to budget. She's a smart woman and understands that the amount I set is all we have to spend. We'll see how it pans out.. ;)
Similar story. I argued against a Filipina. She would often think that she MUST go to an event every time she is invited. I went with her a few times. I declined the rest of the invitations. She berated me on some of my rejections.
I pointed out that a number of Filipinos will lock on to her pattern. Then, they take advantage of her. She proved me right ✅
She pulled the tampo BS on me. I chewed her out. All that FU melodrama that I see in Latinas in a Telenovela came from her! 🙄 She was in the Sadness phase of Kubler Ross. After the 20th time, she accepted what I said.
Lesson 1: invitation =/= obligation.
Corollary 1. Filipinos are similar to Latinos. You marry 1 = you marry the family 👪.
Lesson 2. Set the limitations early. When the Pinay tests it, drop her like a drop of the hat 👒. She gotta follow what fellow San Francisco native 🌁 Clint Eastwood said 50 years ago 🎂 in Magnum Force, "A man has got to know the limitations."
Gio Thank you for sharing your story about being scam and being honest about it I appreciate it sir. Congratulations 🎉 on getting married to maya im
Happy for y'all
I appreciate that
If two people were ever destined to be together it was you and Maya, I've followed you and Maya from the biggining and thought yes here's the girl that's for him perfect in many ways, wish you both and long and happy marriage and great life ahead , bless you both❤
Yep! I met my wife on CF last Oct 14th! We live chatted everyday and night before she went to bed for over 6 months, I met her in person on March 9th, got engaged and were married on April 29th! Going on 7 months of Marriage this Nov 9th! I'm so happy for you and Maya! May God Bless you and your little Girl!
It's not your responsibility to turn into detective Columbo anytime she suggests an activity. If she's willing to set you up to be fleeced, she's let go on the spot. No questions asked or excuses.
True enough
I don't agree, better to know before hand and draw boundaries. If the boundaries are not respected then let them loose. Many Filipinos are on the make (oppotunists), I was in Malate on a Saturday night, just exploring, there was an open air bar and band so being hot I stopped for a beer. I sat down and ordered a beer insisting on paying for it on arrival rather than running up a tab. So a group of Filipinos on the next table invited me to join them, I politely declined. 1. Don't run up tabs where you lose track of what you have ordered, 2. Be wary of the kindness of strangers unless you are happy to be left paying for the entire groups night out drinking. You work out pretty quickly that the majority of people who approach you unsolicited are on the make and you being a foreigner look like the most likely sucker. Cheers Aussie John
@@omegaman5652☝️☝️☝️exactly!!
Here is the filipino way from my observations and my history of dealing with the Philippines 🇵🇭 since 1999. I have a quote I made up for my dealings here: " If the money 💰 ain't flowing, I ain't going"!! In other words, you have to come correct with the funds if you want any chance of fun!! I, too, almost got scammed, but put a quick stop to it before it happened, I call it " The bus going to Manila scam" I saw through it and said a big " NO" ! I will leave it that on this forum. They will try you hard and really expect you as a " big money foreigners" to comply and just give in, no matter what!! Like Nancy Reagan said, " Just say "No", no truer words have been spoken, especially for a place like the Philippines. Trust me!! Congrats G man and Maya on your recent nuptials, wish all your future endeavors 2gether are great and adventurous.❤🎉😊!! A lot has been going on in my world and not all gravy, B'lieve dat! All be blessed, safe, healthy, happy, aware, smart, prosperous, and great(compassionate). Much love to all, especially the newly weds and Princess daughter!! Trudat!! Real talk&Nuff!! Thurl G money smooth ( a lot of my nicknames combined) ghost, roger out, peace y Adios 🙏!! Lol!! 😂❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
The problem is that he was in the middle of nowhere with zero transport. Nowhere to go.
This happened to me in El Salvador, party situation that I paid for everything and then a half dozen extra people showed up to finish off the booze and food while I was asleep. Definitely going to happen in any country one goes with poverty, I am sure they will always enjoy laughing about the good times they had at my expense.
If you're a newbie, and if someone asks you to pay for something, just say that you only have P500 or P1000 for your own fare, max 3000 or any amount you are willing to give (even if you are carrying more than that).
If they insist just stick to your story and say I'm sorry this is the only cash I have, you should have told me earlier before we left.
You got off easy. One day I’ll make a video of what happened to me in Thailand back in 1991. I was expecting a lot worse than that
100% I agree with you. I've been scammed too, like you, several times, in my visits there. I will not go into details, but yes, this is what makes me apprehensive each time I visit Pinas. A shame because they think it's a joke. I'll be visiting again next year but I know what to do this time. Cheers!
I def know better now !
The hardest part is learning to say NO, and ask questions.
Thanks for sharing! And your honesty!
I would tell a Filipina, "I've heard that some Filipino families expect Foreigners to pay for everything, including get togethers and events that they (Foreigners) didn't arrange. While I consider myself generous, that sort of tactic isn't going to fly with me."
Exactly 👍😎
I mean what in the world would these ppl have done had you said nah I’m not paying for this.
They really just assume ppl will pay if you make it awkward on the foreigner. I’ve heard too many stories and I will have no problem saying no If someone tries to play me like this.
I’ve learned a lot from you Gio, I would have been an easy target I think. thanks for preparing me.
The best excuse I used before when an unexpected ambush by freeloaders appeared was, "My wallet got stolen."
@@johnnyg7899 What did they say ? lol
The good thing about this situation is you experienced this situation early and glad you learned !Good luck to you!
It wouldn’t matter how many questions you asked or what information you got, many times the answer will be yes to you. Then comes the truth after the fact. If a girl pulled that shit with me it would be done as soon as the party ended. My gf has never pulled that crap with me. Her family has never coaxed her into anything and they barely have a pot to piss in. But because of me, and the help her parents give my gf with our daughter, they live pretty well off on my expense, and I don’t mind one bit. My daughter loves having her Mala and Palo around.
What an experience. You were brave getting in the van. It sounds like a roving band of gypsies. I hope you and Maya have a Great Thanksgiving!
Thank you! You too!
I personally know some real gypsies some of the nicest most generous people I ever met they'd give you the shirt off there back
@@lovemyFilipina That’s because they took that shirt off of their last victim. 😂😁
I think I would have blocked that girl as soon I got back. We're done.
Some form of this happens to most of us. It is just a learning experience.
Being out in the province alone ( jungle ) as apposed to a city makes a big difference in your options. It was probably wise to just go along in that situation because it doesn't just affect the family it affects the people who cooked sold and delivered the roast pig. This would have caused big problems for the family they would have" lost face" may not have gotten out alive. IMO.
Yea, it is kind of hard to say no when I was stuck in the middle of the jungle up in the mountains.
@@GiointhePhilippines under the circumstances you did the right thing. I do think the family coerced her into doing that. With a family like that I feel sorry for her.
i got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of pesos on my first relationship in the philippines.i hope one day Gio i can meet you and tell my story.Fortunately i am ok now and moved on, but your video made me realise how this type of thing happens to so many unsuspecting tourists/travellers in the philippines.
Wow, I'd love to hear that story.
@@GiointhePhilippines hopefully Gio early next year i will contact you while i am in the philippines.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Congratulations to you and Mya. She’s a great catch.
You bet
Me too..! Back in my 1st trip to the Philippines Christmas 2000'.. on leave from the Navy and on a whim, I had a San Diego travel agent set up a 10 day trip. I was 34, fit, fresh faced, good looking and naive. NO BIG DEAL.. but I wasted or was taken advantage of to the tune of $500 by a Filipina and her family during 5 days in Pangasinan. "Lesson learned".. and who knows, maybe a valuable lesson that saved my money on later trips. Now.. 2023'.. I'm 57.. no longer young, no longer good looking and no longer naive. I am absolutely scam proof. haha true
** The type of girl who starts asking.. especially when you barely met.. that's a GREAT signal to head out. Those who don't look out for your best interests.. they are not keepers.
It just takes one lesson and most people learn from it but there are others that continue to get scammed.
Well said Curtis hahaha 😅. I learned from my sweet and sour experience in Cebu in 2014. I stopped going back to that Island. I still love the Philippines 🇵🇭 and still visit friends on other islands but always alert 100% how I move there MGTOW style ever since.
You're exactly right. It will take time find the right one. 10:22
Good advice , sir.
Had some very similar experiences. Very frustrating. Especially not being told in advance what’s expected or wished .
Which was done on purpose.
This toxic entitled mentality has been going on forever in the Philippines as far I know from 1st and 2nd trip to the Philippines in 2008 from the UK. Thats why I am not surprised other foreign men has similar experiences there.😂😅. They know how to charm their way into our wallets because we are supposedly "walking ATM's" £$€¥ lol
didnt they already pay for the food and van before hamd?
how did they get the van before paying for it?
I'm a Filipina, and just hearing what this Filipina and her family did to you makes me want to shame all of them. I hate people taking advantage of foreigner. Most of this kind of filipino lives in the province and mostly, uneducated, just wanting to taste a little bit of "feeling rich", by means of having a little bit of relationship with a foreigner. To the rest of new to thr Philippines, be careful.
I have a wonderful Filipina wife now, so it all worked out fine 🙏
@Elizabeth, You dont know what you are talking about "only poor uneducated Filipinas do that" Really? hahaha you don't know my story. My ex Filipina fiancee is educated and all her siblings have good jobs in The Philippines they are from a big family clan on one of the Mindanao Islands. The wanted my money and to control my movement and itinerary in The Philippines 🇵🇭. Coming from the UK that is not going to happen and when their ridiculous expectations crossed my red line I told my ex to go f herself. These are well off middle class Filipinos it was disgusting. Only the Uncle of my ex fiancee had the decency and honesty to expose my ex fiancee he told me be careful and not to rush and marry her and they threatened him in my presence. After that encounter I cut that relationship off back in 2014. So don't tell me it's "Poor Filipinas". It is nothing but GREED some middle class Filipinas and her family especially the so call "Mother In Law" my ex fiancée's Dad easy going nice man but he has been totally emasculated by his wife.
Good vlog and point ,show the other side of some..I say some Filipina.
By the way all the best to you and Maya on family life!
Good luck 🍀🍀🍀
I lasted 21 months because of those instances. "" We need help"" is the worst phrase. Just don't attend any family function. Always say "i forgot my wallet" but keep some money in your shoe.
BTW congratulations to both of you. I really hope your plans and dreams are special. This is from the heart.
I just couldn't last in the filipino market and culture.
Im now living in a peaceful country of El Salvador. Violence has been removed, many people walking the streets now late at night, such as i. I love living here.
You were the Belle of the Ball, the Founder of the Feast, the Provider of Cargo, the God from afar, the Trapped Chap of Little Pigment …
Even Filipinos who go back to the Philippines are annoyed with the culture you just described. The people there especially relatives expect you to pay for everything when you visit them. Even those who are not related to me are expecting me to pay for everything just because I came from the US. Not only that, they borrowed money and you will never know when are they going to pay back. The government there should really do something to create jobs so that people stop being leach with no shame. They should also educate people to only have kids that they can afford since lots of kids are begging on the streets or working early instead of being a kid.
Gio, we've all been there. It's sad but reality. Lesson learned.
A lesson I was taught: When I rely on someone else I'm setting myself up for failure and resentment. NEVER travel without your own transportation. I almost ran out of gas in those very mountains that you speak of so I'm familiar with the area. Not a good situation to be stuck there.
I also remember the very first time I stayed in Moalboal. The resort provided a van from Macyan airport to resort and I think that was only 3.5k. 5 or 6k sounds a bit high. Bringing your own transportation, you'll always have an out.
Ahhhh, life in the Philippines
During the drive there when you were told that you had to pay for the van, I personally would of told the driver to pull over in the nicest way I could and got out. I wouldn't care whether it was in the middle of no where or not. There's no way I would of paid for and tolerated that. This Filipina would of had 0% chance with me after this incident. What a great guy you are to go along with it all with a fake smile and not cause a problem, I couldn't of did that. I was scammed once before as well for 13,000 pesos when I was trying to rent a place in Manila, I learned the hard way that time. It won't happen again, live and learn. Thanks for sharing this story!
If I could go back I would have done just that.
@@GiointhePhilippines Stuff like that where I was too nice in the past eats me up. Our experiences make us who we are, wisdom always comes with a price.
Your channel is really great recently. Lots of good info for people living in, or thinking of moving to the Philippines. Thanks Gio!
Happy to help!
The only way out of this type of set up is to not go in the first place, especially "family" trips.
Assume any trips to "the province" as fishing expeditions into your wallet. You want to go, set up all aspects, including transportation on your own.
My wife of 45 years was a local born Filipina in Hawaii. Her dad came over from PI in 1946 and her mom born in Hawaii. When my f-i-l retired he went back to the PI to "borot" with my m-i-l. Well the town he was born in threw a party in my in-laws honor and at the end presented them with a bill for the party. Haha
Yikes!
i knew my GF, now wife for 7 months before i went. I knew their situation so when I arrived I knew I would have to cover some of the events. 7 1/2 years later still going strong. (All 13 of us 🤣) but I don't mind a bit. The kids make it worth it. Not a dull moment and so much fun 🥰🥰
:-)
Some of the locals need to manage their expectations. I’m big on being straight with people and that’s out of order.
if an expat is there living off 75,000 pesos a month they can’t afford to spend 10,000 pesos on a day out.
It sounds like one has to keep his guard up, Which stands to reason, in a new Country Until one can be comfortable and relaxed somewhere in the future 🙂
I want to thank guys like you and other TH-camrs that are there in the Philippines and know all the scam and situation with those women. I just had one ask 22.000 pesos for some stuff, I’ve been talking to her for only 2 weeks, very pretty but, red flag so I flushed here. So, thanks a lot guys for the warnings you give us newbies.
Wow, thank you
Yeah I understand how you feel I experienced that.
Been there, when my x wife's family would call, I said the vacuum just started. Yup sucking money out of our account.
When I started asking details the stink eye started, she gave me two beautiful kids I got to raise on my own, I'm very grateful for that.
You send her on her way ?
U r very smart you found a great one 🎉
I think so too!
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
Maybe this vlog was still in the back of my mind, when I turned down a Birthday invite last Sunday .
One of my Bros married a Thai girl. She's great, but she had to pretty much cut off her extended family back in Thailand due to them constantly trying to leech money.
I’ve heard some of the women say it bothers them that family never reaches out just to say hey or ask how she’s doing, they just jump straight to the favor they need.
A friend invited me to her birthday party at her parents home. this would be the first time I will meet her family....When I arrived at 6pm a group of people were gathered outside around a table singing karaoke and sharing a bottle of Emparador.... I soon realized that the bottle would be empty in another 30 minutes and that it was the only alcohol available ....there was also a small bowl of pancit in the kitchen and that was all the food they had for the forty people that were there .....now I realized why I was invited to the party that was supposed to last until the next morning ....I was suppose to be the one to pay for the food and drink for every one there ....surprise. Calmly I gave the bd girl P2000P and told her I was leaving because I was not feeling well .....lesson learned.....next time I am invited to a celebration I will respectfully decline because of other plans made at that time and offer a donation to help make the event a success.
The experience you gain is worth more as it has help you to have contents for your channel that will be beneficial for others. Bad things are sometimes good for future endeavour.
How abt not inquire at all and leave immediately and forget abt the little scammer
Don't trust people you don't know, especially in sea
I agree with others that it is very unfortunate but you did not get hurt, you learned very quickly what she was like and it only cost you 10K. I have had to learn some hard lessons here as well. Perhaps that is the price of being a decent human and being trusting, sometimes you get burned. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
same trick happened to me in Cambodia , bringing back some memories lol
The bigger problem was they didn't use you to improve their lives such as putting the money to work to better their condition.
They used you deceitfully with obvious malice.
I'd have told her I didn't have any money on me and got off the van right then.
Better to just speak truth. No reason to say you didn't have money. Just say, please stop the van, and leave. Tell her she is deceitful girl, then walk away.
In the Philippines, I'd turn 95% of invitation down with a straight face just like I do in Dominican Republic and not care if I'm seen as rude.
Not interested in coming to your house to eat or play games or party for I know the pig gets fatten before the slaughter.
Always be on the move, hello and good bye is a great way to keep your a$$ out of uncomfortable nonsense.
#preach
You are right on target. Details are ALWAYS left out.
It’s not that they don’t elaborate the situation, they are just baiting you and getting you in deeper and deeper. I’ve been through that.
yep. it's planned.
You shouldn't get out of the van but return with the driver that time, that trick she did in the van was already big red flag
I definitely should have
@@GiointhePhilippines but never too old to learn at least a memorable experience
At least your honest most people would not admit to being taken like this
So you mean to tell me that you let them all down by not paying for the clown, magician and pony rides they had lined up. You should be ashamed of yourself Gio.
😂😂😂
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Both vans and lechon have to be ordered ahead of time. They had the money and HAD planned on paying for it themselves, but then she got you to tag along and... well you know... you're the "rich" foreigner.
That's kinda what I was thinking.
Sounds similar to taking half the village to a restaurant where they all overorder to fill all the takehome bags. How to get the gringo...
I wonder if you could avoid this by asking her beforehand "Do I need to bring any money to this event?" And if she says no, then call her bluff with "Ok, I'm going to leave my wallet at home then." That way, if she knew you were gong to be expected to pay for anything, she'd have to tell you then. And if she didn't know it but then the family did end up expecting it, you could put it on her with "Sorry, she told me to leave my wallet at home."
I'm late but congratulations
When rich "GI" accepts gathering with impoverished girl and her family, be ready to foot all bills. This ain't Kansas, she already sized you up for the Free Lunch. Hindsight is 20/20, only accept gathering when you really want her part of your life, Philippina family and all.
When you are a newbie, how do you know the right questions to ask? You just get stuck, but what if you told them you only had 1000 pesos on you at the time? I got caught sort of like that on my first trip to the Philippines. I was in Maasin, Leyte on my last night on my trip after meeting a girl on line. She ask me lets go out for dinner for our last night together. I said ok, lets do it. So I was to meet her at the restaurant at the motel I was staying at. That night I go to the restaurant to meet up with her and then at the table, I noticed 8 more people with her. Well guess what, I had to pay for everyone's meal. Left a sour taste in my mouth and it was only about 60 dollars, but still, no communication, no heads up, but I didn't ask her, was it just the two of us.
lmao why didn't you turn around when you saw 8 ppl at the table. I don't care how much it is, don't play me, I'm not going to go along with it. Not someone I would want to spend time with, I would have just left.
Greetings
I've never met a bad Filipino
Been there many times
Never cheated robbed scammed heart broken
Guess good luck BUT
I won't retire there
Why not ?
It's too hot humid typhoons
Gasoline gas electricity food
Too expensive due to high taxes
Red tape beaurocracy
Food quality and selection bad unhealthy
Loud crowded stinky
Kids begging depressing
Constant power failures slow Internet
You lose rights voting gun freedom of speech and can't own land and you pay immigration for this privilege
I never eat fast food but wanted to try cheese burger at mc Donald's
Omg was that meat ? Just awful
Again I like Filipinos I admire how they survive with such low wages. there is a reason there are 10 million living abroad and millions more trying to escape
Yeah, being there will really make you appreciate the 2A, traffic in the US, and trash collection
I had a similar situation. It was one family member, that the rest of the family didn’t like or trust, who manipulated, lied, and orchestrated about 8000 pesos, that ultimately came from my pocket. Stupid B. Stupid me. Like you said the answer is to ask questions and always be on the watch for being used. Always ask who is going? Who’s paying for this?
That's one way for a family to undermine the chances of her getting married.
My thoughts exactly. Like they just don't get it, if they played a longer game they'd get so much more.
A leason well learnt Gio
Fast forward you found Miya so in the end your lesson led you to your wife
This being you first experience with this kind of behavior it is understandable that you would feel trapped, especially with no transportation
Unfortunate story. That's why if one of our relatives will meet and greet their foreigner we not will join them. Because we will avoid the empression of just aftering the money. The foreigner husband or bf our relatives coming here in the Phil we will not visit their home. We will keep away ourselves from them. We do not want to be there extra expense. If we met them we just simply say hi to our relatives but not to attached. Because when it comes to money we know how vuluable it is. It's not easy to earn it. We need to work hard for it.
Haha dam. It's the opposite for us muslims.
Who ever invites you to dinner, handles all the cost. But even then i feel guilty! i try to contribute then the arguments of don't contribute / i want to contribute lol.
3 hours later, i give in and not contribute. But a good guest doesn't complain about what he is served. Just appreciate it, if u don't like it eat less.
Just say no to family functions.
This is a cautionary tale. Guys, do not go to BFE with a girl you don't know well. You wouldn't do it in the US, why would you do it here? You're just way too vulnerable.
Keep her on neutral turf until you know her. You'd better be asking questions. Asking the same questions multiple times and see if you get the same answers each time. Be smart, gents.
Same thing happened to me
This sounds very familiar to what happened to me. You're pretty much stuck paying for everything. I paid 8,000 for the letchon and a few more thousand for some other things. I have money but it drained the pesos I had on me at the time. I had to stop at an ATM on the way back to pay the driver 4,000 pesos... 🤦
That was the price of an education you received. Actually you got off cheap compared to lessons some guys have had to learn the hard way. Every guy goes through this. Is it painful… of course, but part of the learning curve.
Running the Gauntlet in PI
So what happens if you didn't have the money ? Also If you said you would not be able to go who was going to pay for the van and the pig.and lastly I would have said to the driver to pull over and let me out and get a taxi back to the city let them figure it out.
My friend from America married a pina they had a man an lady arranged they marriage contract an party. Now what happened was the man an the lady was scammer. The party an wedding was all fake they lady an man there at the wedding an party enjoy dancing an singing drunk. Button line all was a scam. The couple had to get married an celebrated they wedding again this happened in Davao. 15 years ago.
The lechon family dinner scam
Sounds like you were an unsuspecting hostage. I wouldn't be very happy either.
Yea, I wasn't
crazy story, I would have lost my #ish; sounds like the family was just scandalous.
The feeling of stuck is a big issue in the Philippines that few vloggers talk about which is the experience of most foreigners usually comes after marriage + the construction of a new house.
Always rent, never buy or build
@@ThePhilippinePipeDream Exactly.
@@VENEMPASTOR Stay safe bro !
Lol…. Basically the girl traded a few hundred dollars for what could have been a long term relationship. Some people are very short sighted. That’s one reason why some Filipinos continually struggle. They trade a little money now for what could be a good long term thing. My girlfriend, who lived in the Philippines until she was 14, gets scammed like this too so don’t feel too bad. She’s purchased land from “relatives” and “friends” that was way overpriced. Fortunately for her, the land has greatly increased in value right after. The first time that I visited the Philippines with my girlfriend, her great uncle threw a big party for us. There were 3 roasted pigs and probably at least 30 guests (family, relatives, friends, etc…). He did pay for everything, but I guess that I could have been easily scammed just like you were.
Yea, exactly right!
Chip in 😂 I don’t mind paying for the immediate family but not for everyone 🤔
Good thing to know. Had a similar experience in Mexico.
I discovered they all want you to buy them the Lechon pig feast.
Second only to a new phone. They all seem to develop a phone problem shortly after getting to know you. and have a birthday in the very near future.
and relatives get sick soon after lol
... and water buffalo included.
Or die. I have chipped in for many funerals. I agree that expats should not not date until you are there. There is no way to know for sure if they are being truthful or not in an online relationship.
@@GiointhePhilippines
Yep
Sorry to hear you got scammed Gio, it happens to everyone. But honestly you got off cheap, 10,000 php ? I got scammed by buying my ex filipina gf a new motorbike because she needed transportation to school....guess what, she didn't know how to ride it but her brother did and he wasn't going to teach her to ride so basically it was his now ! Not to mention all the $$$ I gave her family and the fact her brothers didn't work and had no desire to.....and get this, the last straw, she wanted me to buy land there and build a house ! Yeah right, so her brothers could move in....( I know foreigners can't own land in the Philippines ) they would most likely kick me out ! Needless to say we broke up, now she's some other foreigners problem. You got off cheap Gio , scams are everywhere in the Philippines.....just let the foreigner pay for it because he's rich ! The old saying....live and learn.....if you don't " learn" in the Philippines you'll either be broke, in jail, or dead. Been there, done that. Congrats on your marriage Gio, you and Maya make a great couple !
Thank you 🙏
It's called lying by omission.
I bet you aren't the first or last Foreigner that family did that to
I'm sure