From the Studio Remaking Silent Hill 2 (Uh Oh...) | The Medium
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- The Medium - where chatty protagonists and a lack of subtlety rule the day. That said, it was different than the preconceived notions I had going in.
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The Medium isn't my kind of game. A walking simulator with light puzzle and gameplay elements sprinkled throughout. The story has its moments - it's a descent premise - but remains ho-hum for large stretches.
It suffers from several common issues that plague modern gaming. A protagonist that doesn't know when to pipe down, and lacks of subtlety. The Medium spells everything out to and for us.
It's a game I wouldn't give much thought to beyond one key fact. The studio behind the Medium, Bloober Team are helming the Silent Hill 2 Remake.
Despite the Medium being a ho-hum experience, I am glad I played it. It gives me a better idea of what to expect with the Silent Hill 2 Remake. What I experienced doesn't give me much hope for the Remake - not that I had much before.
Now, to be fair, I'm not a fan of remakes - something I've made clear throughout several videos. Of games that do not need a remake, Silent Hill 2 would be near the very top of my list. It's was very much lighting in a bottle. The expectations and reverence for such a title makes it something that's going to be next to impossible to top. I don't care who would be making the remake - to expect anything else would be a fool's errand.
Before playing The Medium, I was only familiar with Bloober Team through osmosis. I was aware of the many criticisms thrown bloober's way. For their horror output, and specific issues with The Medium. I did have some preconceived notions going in of what to expect.
I can see how some have come to have certain interpretations and conclusions of The Medium. I found myself not coming to the same conclusions and interpretation at points.
It's not like the game's plot doesn't have issues. It has plenty of them. There's a lack of subtlety. There are several questionable choices in how they deal with heavy subject matter. While it looks great, there's little beyond the surface level.
Having now played The Medium, I do see a different trajectory in how the Silent Hill 2 remake might play out from what I had in mind before. I don't have much hope for it, but now it's in a different way.
Bloober team can build out a descent atmosphere, and the dual reality system is intriguing. But they do next to nothing interesting with it - making it worse with what they've done with the technology.
00:00 - Prelude
02:24 - Intro of The Medium
04:26 - Presentation & Gameplay of The Medium
14:41 - Plot of The Medium
29:26 - In Conclusion & Thoughts on the Silent Hill 2 Remake
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"this hill... it's so... silent..." Bloober Team's James probably
this thing... has a pyramid... head....
No.
James's definitely is going to talk like a capeshit hero
This would be a great line in a SH2 parody ngl 😂
I love that part of the remake when James says "it's over Pyramid Head, because.... I am the Silent Hill 2" and starts Silenthilling all over him
The first thought that came to my mind when I learned these guys were remaking silent Hill 2 basically was "haven't the silent Hill fan base suffered enough?"
some keep throwing money at konami, so apparently some people with low standards really haven't had enough
You guys really just want to see this game fail huh
@@NickyNicest if you can't see the writing on the wall then you really should have your consumer rights taken away.
It's Trauma!
Bizzare thing to say
"Mary... where the fuck are you?"
Holy shit I almost choked on my water.
Kinda assholy to patent a game mechanic thats a slight twist on the mechanic used in the siren series, so they didnt even really invent the mechanic.
Right, RIGHT?? omg that's so absurd 😆
Given Bloober Teams history, I don't trust them to handle characters like Angela like....at all.
oh god... it's gonna be so awful...
They made her into a lumpy Karen.
@@lobstrosity7163 She literally looked like a 40 year old karen in the original, she is meant to be 19 and looks way younger in the remake.
Comment aged like a fine wine.
@@furynvm She's 19 but the point in the original was to make her look older because of all the stuff she went through.
"I'm not fan of remakes"
(picture of Maria)
ouch
Oh fuck that's some good symbolism right there...
The clowns at Bloober do not understand subtle horror.
Having them remake Silent Hill is like putting Zack Snyder to remake the Godfather.
More like Michael Bay for The Seventh Seal
The only clown is your daddy
It's more like Snyder remaking Romero's Dawn of the Dead... which arguably went OK?
@@tarnetskygge it kinda did looking at the movie in a vacuum, i found it quite enjoyable, but in comparison to the original, it was not ok at all.
snyder did not seem to have any understanding of the core idea/vision of the original, instead creating one of the early manifestations of the classic dark and edgy remake that entirely misses the point. like, its an entirely different movie at that point, just w the dawn of the dead name attached to it
@@louschwick7301 yeah I'd never say Snyder had a chance of surpassing or replacing the original masterpiece, but I still appreciate his remake for having its own identity rather than just being a slavish inferior copy. If nothing else, his opening zombie outbreak scene was pretty good imo.
Wild how this is less mechanically dense than Murdered: Soul Suspect, a game that seemingly appeared out of thin air like an eldritch horror intruding on reality.
Murdered: Soul Suspect is a an awesome $5 game! Entertained me on a day off once. Played through it in 4ish hrs, then 100% achievemented it on a 2nd play through that took under an hr.
The Medium is kind of boring. It isn't bad, but that's about all I can say about it. It's fine.
Patents in video game mechanics is fucking horrid i hate that shit
For me, I do see the ending as implying that Lilianne is a burden.
When the game makes it clear that its HER trauma which has manifested into something that is harming others, and can only be stopped by her dying, then for me its pretty clear that we're meant to think that the world would be better off without her.
Blair Witch had the same problem, having a protagonist who will go on to harm others his trauma unless he dies first.
Once can be a misunderstanding on our part, twice however cannot be ignored.
I fail to see the issue with that.
It'd still work for the established story in this game.
I severely doubt, you're supposed to view this as a happy ending ^^
@@arsenelupin9697 I take issue with it because the number one thing suicidal people tell themselves is that they are a burden on those around them and that the world would be better off without them.
It’s a bit weird to have a game essentially concur.
@@garyking1986 It's a story in a video game - with ghosts and demons ^^
Are people only allowed to write stories, which concur with your moral viewpoints?
God forbid, a horror game is bleak and doesn't come with a happy ending, where everyone receives therapy afterwards......
@@arsenelupin9697 What a reductive view of art and storytelling.
Look, if a game wants to delve into serious issues that affect and traumatise people such as sexual abuse, depression, suicide, etc. then the least it could do is handle them with care.
You’re actually looking at a story with these themes and saying “lol, it’s just a fun horror game.”
This isn’t a matter of a game disagreeing with my own moral beliefs, I can handle that. This is a matter of a game repeating harmful rhetoric which could negatively impact at-risk people, and you trying to take a jab at me just for bringing that up shows your level of empathy on the matter.
@@garyking1986 You using cushiony language and appealing to emotions, is not enough to obfuscate your true intentions - at least not for me.
You have answered my question: "Are stories, which do not explicitly adhere to your moral viewpoints allowed to even exist" with a resounding NO.
But since it's all under the guise of "empathy", you are obviously in the right and everyone else has to simply acquiesce to you.......
Silent Hill 2 didn't need a remake. If any SH was to get a remake, maybe the first game could work, but NOT from Bloober Team!
That downpour clip at 29:55 where they chuck the axe into the void made me crack up. I miss super bestfriends
I suspect Pyramid head, will be chucking slurs at us too, during chase sequences.
"Get the **** back here James!! You ****!"
"I am gonna shove this sword up your ass James! JAAAAMES!"
Man, you can't be less unsubtle when one of the characters is literally called "sadness". It could only be worse if it was called "depression".
James talking while walking into silent hill made me lmao 😂
It can work.
@@lucascoval828😂😂😂😂
@@fakeupchuck6073 nice rebuttal 🤤
@@user-rt4ct6tq3r😂😂😂😂
Letting a SH2 remake to be developed by the devs who literally made a "if you're traumatized, you might as well die 'cause it won't get better" ending still infuriates me. This is why I'm going to be *extremely* cautious on how Bloober will depict Mary and especially Angela; I don't trust them to handle the subject matter.
There are people that think you're a hater online for being suspicious of Silent Hill 2 Remake. Which is wild because Konami is about as trustworthy as that uncle in the family that is always down on his luck and always has a story when he comes around. I could write an essay about why Konami doesn't actually care about Silent Hill so I'll keep it short and simple:
-They put pyramid head in literally anything other than Silent Hill 2 (if you know you know)
-They lost the master discs for Silent Hill 2 & 3.
- They didn't make a Silent Hill game for over a decade
-They just happened to skip over the first actual game in the series in favor of the sequel everyone knows. Maximize profitability. (See MGS3 Remake for similar strategy).
-They stepped out of the gaming market to maximize their pachinko gambling profits. And when Japan set new laws that threatened those profits guess who walk-of-shamed back to gaming with two remakes of two beloved games from flagship franchises? Konami.
-Then... then they hired Blooper Team
The people who like Blooper's games won't get this (I'd like to see just how many people, who have also finished the Silent Hill trilogy, have finished The Medium and enjoyed it) but Blooper does not absolutely does not have the storytelling chops to deliver that story of Silent Hill 2 with the subtlety it requires. They wouldn't know subtlety if it their masked up trauma ghost told them in the bargin bin silent hill knockoff zone.
to me it is a red flag that the demon nurses have been "nerfed" so to speak, you can tell what kind of people are remaking them; the kind of people who are wishing death to the developers of Stellar Blade
They also cancelled the Hideo Kojima, Guillermo del Toro, and Junji Ito super project Silent Hills… also put Kojima in a locked office with limited interaction with staff and limited internet access.
Konami hired Blooper for the same reason they hired all those other western studios post-SH4, they are cheap. Konami is notoriously penny pinching, to the detriment of their final products. For all of the upcoming SH games, they went the same route as they did 15 years ago with hiring cheap and/or inexperience studios who will most likely be unable to produce something good.
To be fair mgs1 has a remake and mgs2 is garbage.
@@xThunderxWolfx That's straight up blasphemy about MGS2 where I come from.
cant wait to see how these guys will handle SH2, the game with 3 mentally unstable people, 2 of them are suicidal
because Bloober is basically like Zack Snyder, picking up random subject matters and throwing them into the product for the sake of being deep and profound without actually delivering the theme
And one has horrible sexual/violent guilt. And another was at the end of sexual violence. It'll be greeeeeat.
It's not fair to compare Bloober to Snyder.....they don't overuse slow-mo effects.
Snyder is the GOAT, don't you dare
@@steelbear2063 yes i dare, i just want him to make good movies like Watchmen back then
@@steelbear2063absolutely not. Bro misunderstood not only batman but superman. how can you screw up Superman
Oh, the clows at Bloober did not "take inspiration" from that artist, it was outright plagiarism down to some possible legal action, same with the design of the maw.
LOL tell me you don’t know what “plagiarism” is without telling me you don’t know what “plagiarism” is. 😂😂😂
@@frankaliberti you talking about yourself?
There is extensive proof of them plagiarising art and concepts in previous games as well as the medium
@@Maioly Jesus Christ. You not only don’t know what plagiarism is, you also don’t understand game development.
@@frankaliberti Lets see, countless copied mobile games, stolen art in layers of fear, rubber johnny in layers of fear 2, the previously mentioned controversy with the monster design in the medium... sounds like plagiarism to me?
@@Maioly Then sue them. Otherwise, tell mommy to block NeoGAF on your phone so you can learn to get an original opinion.
I mean, the first red flag was calling the game "the medium," kinda predicting the game itself (and its rating).
"The mid"
lol this is too much XD
Bloober Team is so bad with their writing and mechanics that my brain automatically turns it to Blooper
"You know, James, maybe Silent Hill is the wives we killed all alone" - Pyramid Head
Bloober Team is discount Frictional Games.
Hell, the ending monologue in A Machine for Pigs goes harder than anything Bloober Team ever made, and that game was only written by Frictional Games.
A Machine for Pigs was made by Chinese Room, and they are not to much further from Bloober to be honest...
@@lexmarovsky6667 Chinese Room made A Machine for Pigs but it was written by Mikhail Hedberg from Frictional Games. That's why I specifically wrote "that game was only written by" in my comment. AMFP is my favorite story from that creative team.
they should be remaking silent hill 1 not 2
Agreed. Them remaking SH2 kind of proves though why it's the wrong choice.
They chose SH2 because it's the most popular one. The amount of videos here on YT gushing about SH2 far outnumber all the videos about SH1, 3 and 4 combined even though all those games are good with some things that even outdo SH2.
@@fattiger6957 glad someone has a brain
@@fattiger6957 skipping to the popular one is in itself a huge red flag
@@jiggycalzone8585 Definitely. It shows it is more about calculated greed than providing people with a good experience.
"You can't save them all" the game.
“Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down” looking ahh game
Now now, "You can't save them all, the game" was Disaster: Day of Crisis.
You should try Observer: System Redux. I think it's the best thing they've done. It was also Rutger Hauer's last appearance in anything before he died.
That review will be turned into another Silent Hill 2 rant.
It's not very good. Rutger is awesome in that game tho.
Observer is awesome!
If they got someone else to write the Silent Hill 2 remake, I could imagine it being pretty decent, but it doesn't seem like subtlety is Bloober Team's strong suit and a game like that really need it
“I take it The Maw is dead. This day extracts a heavy toll…”
I wasnt aware Bloober was "modernizing" the dialogue for SH2 Remake. Literally the best thing was just keeping the sxript exactly the same for folks to experience the story and see why its seen as one of the best survival horror games of all time.
Getting a patent on a thing you don't do anything with is basically just so people don't take your idea and do something great with it instead you fumbling it into a mid-ass "game".
Yup I have zero hope for the remake. Honestly the lightening in a bottle take is accurate: nothing compares to going in blind on that game and coming out with confusion and feelings of disgust that silent hill 2 leaves its player with. Glad you let people know about the probably best option to experience it.
I think split screen really cheapens the experience... I, hate it. Especially during cutscenes when you can see she's talking to a wall...
I'm so happy others are finally catching up with what's going on with this remake.
I've been sustaining insult after insult while trying to defend my criticism on the mistakes they've been blatantly making.
Shows finally that the abusively positive about the remake are in the minority.
No matter how many terrible games Blooper has made, the wishful thinking Silent Hill fanboys will still jump down your throat for pointing that out.
Personally, I have very little faith this team can produce anything of worth. If they were literally making a 1:1 remake of SH2, maybe they could make something decent. But they have already said they are changing and adding things, so I'm pretty sure the game will be bad and completely miss the whole point of the original.
THE PREMIUM MEDIUM! And yes, they got Akira Yamaoka to team up for the Medium soundtrack, but as seen in Origins, Homecoming, and Shattered Memories, just having him doing the soundtrack does not make a Silent Hill game.
Having Yamaoka do your soundtrack isn't some badge of honour. The guy will work for anyone who pays him. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, the man deserves to make money, but he doesn't really seem to care about the quality of the games he works on.
Same for Masahiro Ito - he seems like a nice guy who is very talented but openly admits he'll do anything for money, usually as a joke but he has been saying it a lot more recently.
It's almost like having a good soundtrack isn't enough, on its own, to make a game good!
@@Shenaldrac
I agree. His work in Homecoming was arguably his best work, but the game is also arguably the worst in the series.
@@jaysherman2615 Yup. Hell I'm one of the people who will argue with that, I think ShatMemz is way worse.
cant wait for "The Large"
When people are going to understand that "low" graphic quality was a giant and important component of the atmosphere in these games? Remaking them in current graphical standards is so stupid and pointless. It's like taking subtle art and remaking it into blunt porn.
They had a somewhat interesting concept with the split screen and it was arguably the game´s main appeal, and they had to file a patent so nobody but them could waste it like they did. In cases like the Nemesis system and WB, it´s still disappointing but at least kind of "in character" for WB, but an actual game dev studio?. Whenever you see stuff like that coming from people like them you have to remember that they´ll say things like "We value creativity, making games is hard, being creative is hard" and all that blabery just to say "welp, no one gets to be creative with this, except for us that is", all that for something that not only they didn´t even pioneer but they also don´t have any plans for. No wonder Konami took interest in them.
Also it would surprise me if they can resist the urge to make James and Maria as chatty as this game´s mc, the game has too many subtleties going on, can´t let the players figure them out for themselves, they are too stupid, they need us, the smart writers, to sit them down so we can explain everything, how else are they supposed to get it. How are they supposed to understand James, he sad, he guilty, so we make him look at the mirror while looking sad and guilty, can´t have a single instance where players have to use one braincell for themselves.
Also the smart writers: "The girl´s name was Rose, she ded, therefore withering roses, get it? Oh yes yes, smart and original we know, creative even."
It would actually be a great move if the other characters, especially Maria, had more dialog and ambient small-talk.
But, here's the important part, James himself does a shitty awkward job of carrying these conversations. Just a total limp noodle, deflating the mood like a party balloon. Reinforce the fact that, honestly, James is a pathetically lonely man, that doesn't even attempt to form any kind of human connection with anyone other than Mary.
Maybe, as the game goes on, he starts to engage with Maria more and he shows glimmers of emotion and even happiness. Make it clear why Mary is so important to him, which is something that the original kinda faltered at. Which would make Maria's repeated deaths way more impactful to the player.
...But obviously, this would require good, subtle writing to pull off. So it feels kinda silly to even mention it in this context.
As a very literal-minded person who really struggles with subtlety and metaphor in stories I definitely prefer games/books/what-have-you where the message is very clear.
HOWEVER.
I'm glad there is media for people who do like subtlety and room for interpretation, and I absolutely do not think a remake of such media should change that. _Fuck_ Bloober team.
What's funny is Siren and Deadly Premonition did it way earlier than the Medium. And I think the Clock Tower games before that.
They gonna fuck it up, it's a given
ONLY way SH2 Remake could work is a reassembled Team Silent, which will never happen
I am Polish and it just puzzles me that this game is set in Poland made by Poles yet everyone is speaking English and there is no Polish dub. This is even funnier when you consider that Holstin, a Polish indie horror game also set in Poland, will have fully Polish voice acting. And they have far less resources. Bloober just doesn't care.
This has been happening for a while, my fellow Slav. For some reason everybody doing games set in America, even if the studios are not American.
Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Dead Rising, Silent Hill - Japanese devs
Horizon Zero Dawn (and sequels) - Dutch
GTA - British
Alan Wake, Control, Quantum Break, Max Payne - Finland (though Max Payne 3 is made by the British)
Like half of Mafia series - Czech
Watch Dogs - Canada.
I can understand why Japan and (to an extent) Canada set their games in America, but how did the rest become such сuсks I have no idea
@@steelbear2063 Funny you mention Mafia devs, because they've made Kingdom Come which is set in Bohemia and I've heard the sequel will feature Czech VO which is great. I always like to play in a dub that fits the setting.
@@steelbear2063 as Rammstein sang, "We're all living in America"
@@lexmarovsky6667
Oh yeah that reminds me that Crysis was made by Germans
@@steelbear2063alan wake is only one that could work if they did set the setting to finland. Others would had been a lot more dull if set here lol
Yeah, I've written off the Silent Hill 2 remake specifically because of the Medium... it was already something I was skeptical about, but Bloober just... did not fill me with confidence.
Boulder Punch said it best. SH2 is one of the last games that should be remade in the first place.
Hot take, but SH1 is better than SH2 anyways.
@@bbbbbbb51 that is a hot take because the comparison is completely unwarranted, as they're two very different games trying to achieve different things.
Bloober is just too ham-fisted to tackle any of the subject mater they seem to want to use. From layer of fears "oh no, my wife is ugly now, better go insane" and the mediums "A demon made him do it, it was demons all along" I don't have much hope for silent hill 2
I hate the patent for the Nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor
Whoever played Bloober games immediately knew that they simply didn't fit as Silent Hill devs. Say whatever you will about the golden era of Silent Hill, but lack of subtlety is definitely one of the last things you will come up with.
I actually really liked The Medium. That being said, Bloober got solid creature designs down, but they are not really good at character writing. I know this is just a remake but im hoping for the best here.
I really hope that Silent Hill F (at least) will do well. I really like the premise and the trailer just feels so... perfect.
Im excited for SH F. Ryukishi07 being the writer makes me very intrigued in how its gonna be.
I have a chip on my shoulder about Bloober Team since the first time I played Blair Witch the game (thankfully through game pass, I didn't give them a cent.).
They took one of my favorite horror movies, a mastercraft of audio design and subtlety with its low budget and "play with the characters and audience's head rather than directly showing the horror", and they turned it into a Silent Hill 2 wannabe horror where the main character has PTSD, is depressed and feels guilty because of his tormented past.
They basically built their image with shameless subtlety-out-of-the-window versions of Silent Hill and PT, every game they made is like that.
Ehm you gave them more than a cent as Devs are paid each time you play a game on paid subscription service.
@@MrGrizzzlik better than paying full price for sure, and those are the last cents they’ll ever get from me ;)
@@AndreaGoriYeah funny how they just glossed over everything else you said just for that petty "acktually game pass 🤓" comment.
You're 100% right about Bloopers output just being "wannabe" Silent Hill shoehorned into every game they make, and then they actually get the rights to the game??? The poetic tragedy is SO REAL 😭😓
29:57 Was that a motherfucking Two Best Friends Play reference???
This is one of those “it should have been a movie” games
Even as a movie it would gail because its not subtle and it has bad depictions of mental struggles
@@ezelalia5739
Bad or just disliked?
@@steelbear2063 Bad
The problem with Bloober doing a Silent Hill game is they have less subtlety that a brick to the face.
Everything i heard made me think this is the LAST company that should be making a silent hill game period let alone a remake of 2
One of your funniest videos yet. Insightful as well, thanks for bringing light to this game
Avalanche Reviews and Boulder Punch are the same person is my conspiracy theory.
that game is pathethic as hell, it hurts to watch everytime i see a review
cope toaster boy
AKA the game that blames abuse victims for what happened to them instead of the perpetrators. What did anyone expect from the clowns who made Dumbass Baby Simulator 2016(read: Layers of Fear).
I'm telling you there is no reason to be excited for the SH2 Remake.
It's wild the way they treat Lily vs her abuser, though. Since she was abused it let a demon kill a whole bunch of people and the only way to stop it is to kill her. Yet her abuser was a poor child trapped inside that couln't help doing things he didn't want to do, and then his spirit was sent away peacefully and the horrible demon was sent away too. Sooooo.... I mean, her abuser was treated much better in the story than her.
We know what they were trying to say the messaging is quite clear
RE4 and Dead Space proves that even against impossible odds and expectations that great game can come from it. Not saying Silent Hill 2 will be one of them as well, just saying is all.
Dead Space and RE4 were fine as they were.
@@lucascoval828 I'd prefer remakes of good games and they certainly delivered. You want more uninspired trash?
@@Sebastian-jo7bn
You're getting Silent Hill 2 because people were praising those other "good" remakes.
It sends a message to the rest of the industry.
@@lucascoval828
RE4 yes, but Dead Space did well from bringing DS2 mechanics into DS1
If the message to the industry is, "We appreciate remakes of great games if they're faithful and novel." Than I'm totally fine with giving them my money. There are things about RE4 and Dead Space that I definitely prefer in the original but overall, both remakes are great.
I remember seeing this in multiple humble bundles
While I hate how they were even given the chance to remake Silent Hill 2 considering their terrible track record the fact they've taken criticism from fans seriously and made changes accordingly has given me hope for the remake.
Well they shrugged off all criticism of the remake and blamed Konami for "preseting the game wrong" even though all the problems of the remake is in the structure and misunderstanding of the original, not the lack of polish(ha) or editing
I must be blind, cause the medium from what i can see looks awesome and if anything SH2 is in great hands, shame it wont have this fixed camera cause it wouldve bern more authentic
One would think they would implement their hint/tutorial/give everything away and do it for you system as a toggle in the options menu. Absolutely no one would complain about something you have to turn on and off. The new Crow Country game did this much better where you have to seek it out and use a resource and even then it has multiple layers before it spells it out to you directly.
You know I played this game with my girlfriend. We took turns playing it and had a decent time with what we experienced. Had some decent atmosphere and good music. The story also had its moments even though it sounds like it ends pretty poorly. We never finished it. I think we just got distracted, we didn’t have any huge issues with it.
Hey Boulder, your the man, best reviewer out there, keep up the great work
reminder that there is a patent out for the nemesis system from shadow of mordor and gaming is suffering heavily because of it
I'm glad Konami is dedicated to giving the fan base the most immersive Silent Hill experience imaginable.
That goober clip aged me 10 more years
This was Bloober’s „we wanna make silent hill 2 remake” job application project. I wouldn’t even call it mediocre but somehow Konami hired them for the job 😂
Software patents were always ridiculous. Copyrights, sure, but concepts like "a fighting game" should never be patentable. I'm sure if it was sufficiently challenged in court, they'd lose over this but... it's unlikely any studio would bother when they could just change their game idea instead. So, we'll be waiting a couple decades just like with loading screen mini-games.
Also, I put my SH2 DVD in my toaster and it didn't run optimally...
I know gamedevs that use subtext and they're all cowards.
They're not dream-weavers either.
Probably aligned with the Dutch.
That quote has its time and place, Now it's not the time nor the place to employ it.
@@lucascoval828What do the Dutch have to do with any of this?
I almost never drop a game without completing it. That was not the case with this game. Couldn't stomach the dialogue for an hour, much less 8. And it's because of this game that I have zero faith in bloober team to handle SH2
Let's hope the Silent Hill 2 remake doesn't make us sadness 😅
I was already worried about that SH2 Bloober remake, and now I'm even more worried lol. There's zero chance of Bloober doing SH2 better than Team Silent, and since Konami fumbled the remasters so hard, theres a real possibility that Konami doing what Rockstar did and remove the OG games from online store just to force people to buy this remake.
They could of made a decent remaster if they just kept EVERYTHING the same. But no, they HAD to pretend like they know their shit. Like they understand the point and subtlety of original game
Uh-Oh indeed. I've said the same thing so many times I don't feel like rpeating myself, BUT here we go: Bloober's supposed "care" for SH is just as superficial as Konami's, hence they got the job. The results? Results will be the same like the last few times, or worse.
More like... "Oh no"
@@iqbalfabianza3866 Yeah, well - it's already too late for "oh no"
I think they got the job because of their ability to capture atmosphere. Unfortunately that's as far as their skill set goes.
@@DementedView Pity that atmosphere won't last for long, if they really make James more... talkative
If there's one thing I know for sure is that Silent Hill 2's performance will be utter dogshit.
On your toaster im sure it will be.
@@user-rt4ct6tq3r My 'toaster' happens to be a rtx 4070ti/5800X3D/32gb machine that handles everything you throw at it and yet The Medium still runs like shit.
I was ready to come in here defending Bloober giving them the benefit of the doubt, but that changed after seeing the game mechanic patent. Nintendo corporate doing it is one thing, an indie game dev doing it feels like it's actively harming creativity across the medium for no real reason.
never understood those weird 4 lever puzzle to reach a certain level i mean has anyone ever in the world seen such a thing with gauge meter needing a certain spot beside anything using pressure gas and such?
The bit with James talking to himself was hilarious. If you want to do a "Freeman's Mind" style thing for the whole game it would probably do really well, especially with everyone pointing out Bloober's lack of subtlety right now.
It works.
I really liked The Medium. The running scene with the Maw was super cool.
Lords of the Fallen (2) really flushes out this dual world concept which I really like. Moths and all lol
The Wolf and Cub manga creator also did Mad Bull 34, just saying.
Ive seen leakd that bloober fixed the mirror scene
The medium is a incredibly passive game thats why i didnt like it overall ....but it has a really interesting story, concepts and ideas ...
On the note of video game patents it's become common practice to file them to protect yourself not as a way to strangle the industry on creative ideas, the ideas behind guitar hero were patented for example but even in the fact of that we got rockstar and now stuff like fortnite festival - I don't wanna say you can do it but most of the time from a huge developer or company it's a form of protection against patent trolling.
Obviously this doesn't stop bad actors from making very poorly strung together games to patent something and force anything that comes out after to pay licence fees to use the mechanic, I think some guy held a vague patent for what is essentially every FPS or MMO game at it's core for two/three decades and forced companies to pay them royalties.
also there was like paltalk who went after every major MMO developer like jagex/blizzard etc for the idea of connected pcs over virtual spaces and they're still doing it today using whatever US state which is most likely to win them the case.
I feel like bloopers games are kinda a prime example of issues within AAA development.
Large budgets to burn, that they don’t want the players to miss a beat or lose interest in, which leads to going on in trying to make some cinematic story with all the large beats hit in cutscenes.
The reason older games don’t suffer as much from this is, they didn’t have the money to afford a professional VA (if they even had one) to voice those “Wow, a key. For that lock! How useful that this key unlocks stuff!” Lines, or mocap studios for the long cinematics. That meant they had to make up for it through gameplay and environments. The players had to infer alot of meaning because the devs didn’t have the resources to implement them even if they wanted.
Nowadays with the amount of budget bloat we see they go hog wild and want to make movies, so you get games like this which are glorified shows so hyperfocused on telling a movie-like story rather than take advantage of games as a medium.
And I wouldn't even mind this change towards more cinematic story-focused games except that _they always have awful writing!_ I fukken love stories, I love reading, books are my jam. I unironically play FPS games for the singleplayer campaigns, I'm the loser who cared about the story when playing Halo! But my god am I sick of games with writing of this caliber. We need more Disco Elysiums and less Mediums.
Thankfully i took care of my PS-PS4 disc games.
Eh, i dont rewlly care that they put a patent on their split screen approach for the two worlds.
It doesnt stop developers from using a realtime multi-world mechanic, Lords of the Fallen (while an equally bad game) I think handles the mechanic better.
90% of the time theres no reason for me to even see both worlds at the same time. Again, in Lords of the Fallen you can come to a path that clearly looks like something is behind it.... So you switch worlds, and have other mechanics feed into it like "If you stay in this world too long you will eventaully die because it gets progressivly harder"
Putting the game into split "solves" an issue that no one had. It does little to bring anything to a story telling front.
Ah this game and it's.... controversial ending and themes
Maybe that's because Im Polish but I enjoyed this game for what it is. I didn't expect anything more than a walking simulator with light puzzles and I got just that. I agree that Mariane talks a bit too much, that some plot points are questionable and that there is not enought "polishness". But I enjoyed my time with the Medium. Id be down to playing a prequel with Thomas as the main character being experimented on by germans and then soviets. He seems like a more interesting character.
I just can't give a shit about Silent Hill anymore. The last good game was in 2003 and even SH3 was much more flawed the the first two. Horror lies in mystery and Silent Hill has been explained to death. There was even a game that puts the player in the house with Alessa during the ritual. Zero mystique. The well is dry. There's significantly more bad SIlent Hill games than good. One barely passable movie and one awful one. Terrible comics and more. People get so attatched to brands that they just can't let it die. It's just become a series of reconisable iconography that people are comfortable with and will buy toys of.
I agree that SH3 was flawed, particularly in its design. But I think Heather is such a strong character, that I really enjoyed the game and it makes up for the game's shortcomings.
Comics were neat though
@@fattiger6957 AT same time game had barely any plot beyond womanhood is scarry, birth a god for us. She interacts with like 3 nps in the entire game and just kills 9999999999 amount of enemies like it was doom, Game locations are uninspired. Mall, sewers, abandoned building. Amusement park was only used in intro.
silent hill's first four-ish games had immaculate vibes . that's what people want back . gameplay was always secondary to the absolutely immense vibes the games delivered
I felt the exact same way about this game.
Remake James: “What’s with all this fog? It’s like Silent Hill out today.”
So when can we play The Large
Let’s just take silent hill and make our own, Konami clearly isn’t doing anything productive with it.
Castlevania did that and bloodstained is awesome
10:05 They needed to wait for the technology to get there? Really? To show a splitscreen where one half shows a different environment? Oh man, yeah, we didn't have couch co-op Halo until the Medium came out! This reminds me of Todd talking about how they couldn't make Starfield until now because the technology wasn't there yet. Like, don't make me laugh.
Forgive me if this is pedantic, but I think the term "Fixed Camera Angle" doesn't apply to The Medium, as the camera is usually in motion. "Cinematic Camera Angles" maybe? In any case, I love this type of camera that frames the action screen-by-screen, like it's an adventure game. When done well, it's an incredible tool for the game's director.
I mean it's kinda fixed, since you don't control it. Or maybe you do, I forgor
More like Midium
Bloober team will burry Silent hill for good, their games suck