Which Fire Emblem Army is the Strongest? Ranking Every Last One of Them using Science!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2023
  • Ever wondered which Fire Emblem characters would beat the others in a fight? No? Do you not lie awake every night wondering? Really...? Am I just weird?
    Well Regardless, this video uses statistics to determine which Fire Emblem army definitely has the highest power level!
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    If you want to double check me or want to use them for your own nefarious purpose, the links to my stats are here:
    Base Stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Average Stats: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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    Timestamps:
    02:05 - The Rules
    03:55 - Round 1
    06:08 - Round 2
    07:33 - Round 3
    10:15 - Round 4
    12:40 - Who has the Strongest Army?
    15:31 - Thanks for Watching!
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ความคิดเห็น • 408

  • @greenchickpea9605
    @greenchickpea9605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    Everybody gangsta till Marth starts spawning infinite generics💀

    • @GBlockbreaker
      @GBlockbreaker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Quatro my beloved

    • @jaydenroberts2615
      @jaydenroberts2615 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@GBlockbreakerwhat’s funny is that every one of those infinite generics are individually better than Bantu

    • @JJSquirtle
      @JJSquirtle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OR I COULD USE THE WARP STAFF

  • @johnwise9811
    @johnwise9811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +278

    The shepherds after not placing first in any single round:
    *Pick a god and pray*

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Guess they prayed to Grima to destroy the competition. :D
      Or to Robin which is.. essentially close enough (or the same thing, if his offhand comment in the toothpaste game is anything to go by)

    • @drewlaw2192
      @drewlaw2192 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Aurirang What comment does he make. I barely anything from engage outside of gameplay and yunaka and could builds

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drewlaw2192 He kinda admits to being a Felldragon himself, which is kinda odd all things considered. Awakening never really delved into the whole subject wether or not Robin and Grima are the one and same "person". The most obvious answer would be that the future Robin was simply possessed by Grima. Many theories also say that he IS Grima which would also be pretty much supported by that comment, that he is in fact a fell dragon.

    • @byronvonedmund
      @byronvonedmund หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shepherds proved that anything can change
      AETHER

  • @SethJV
    @SethJV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +719

    Those numbers mean nothing when Seth solos all of them.

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

      So true

    • @WannabeVTS
      @WannabeVTS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      At level 1

    • @enymetouche2558
      @enymetouche2558 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Seth can't even solo his own game.

    • @willbill6942
      @willbill6942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      *Laughs in Forsetti*

    • @WannabeVTS
      @WannabeVTS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      @@enymetouche2558 literally does at level 1

  • @GeoSage1137
    @GeoSage1137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    The man literally did everything in his power to stop Chrom, taking away abilities and all that. Yet the legend still pulls through. No wonder he, his daughter, and his best friend got added into smash bros

    • @jaydenroberts2615
      @jaydenroberts2615 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so mad. Ephraim, Hector and Lief would’ve been all more unique than Lucina and Chrom. Robin was a good call since he’s a unique class relative to what she have. But imagine a dedicated axe fighter and lance fighter from the coolest GBA lords. Also Lief could’ve had a similar schtick to Byleth in wielding multiple weapon types but with different effects to Byleth. But no, we needed more falchion wielders smh

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jaydenroberts2615 Also Claude from 3 Houses for a bow user

  • @banbanthebandit4002
    @banbanthebandit4002 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +343

    Imagine how insanely overpowering the shepherds would be with the child units thrown in too, makes me think that maybe child soldiers was a great idea and now I’m questioning why we stopped doing that.

    • @davivanatorable
      @davivanatorable 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Morals be damned, we need to find the speed limit to how many people we can kill

    • @24hr-Gaming
      @24hr-Gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      People complained that the child units are too op even though they're optional content so they were made less fun in Fates. Plus shipping is icky or something like that.

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@24hr-Gaming yah... it really worked in awakening...and really didn't in fates

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@megarotom1590 That is because the child units were thought as part of the story in Awakening. They were an afterthough in Fates.

    • @darknessknows1235
      @darknessknows1235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@toumabyakuya Yeah, even though Lucina was the only one part of the story in Awakening, they left it open enough that the integration and pasts of the other Future Children was perfect. Meanwhile in Fate they got knocked up and tossed them in a pocket dimension before deciding to send them to war.

  • @Speedwinghere
    @Speedwinghere 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    I expected awakening to win out due to its child units but you excluded them and it still happened lmao. Adding monsters like third generation Morgan into the mix and allow skills so half of them have galeforce is when things get extra spicy.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      even still there are some parent characters besides chrom and robin that aren't a pushover though it's hard to vary as unlike other games a character's use can completely change in the context of a base game playthrough vs optimal builds that can be used for apotheosis

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Though if you start including skills and stuff like that, the Toothpaste Brigade wins every single round because Emblem Rings are just insane

    • @jfp4life
      @jfp4life 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@skeletonwar4445 Toothpaste brigade
      I'm stealing that one

    • @JackOfen
      @JackOfen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jfp4life It's in the video...

  • @JuliaKeyoto
    @JuliaKeyoto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    The only reason Seliphs Army wasn’t sweeping is because they didn’t have Forsetti on Coirpre. Clearly a sign of a bad player smh

    • @mystergamer0750
      @mystergamer0750 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I swear Seliph's would've won if it weren't for Arden being the dad. 230 growth total when the average male growth total in 1 gen is 255 is pretty bad (265 if you do the most popular pairings and even the worst possible pairings you can do give average of 243, which is higher than the illegal Arden everyones dad growths). That is missing 25 for male and 12,5 for female. Since there are 12 children that inherit growths and each have on average 27 level ups to go, I did the math and it would mean that Seliph's army is missing in total 71 stats due to Arden, and that is not factoring in holyblood. Still that only adds to 3rd and 4th round. Pretty sure Arden also loses some base stats but no idea how many tho. If it's more than 30 Seliph's army would rise a spot on the 1st round which could lead to a win.

    • @TwoHeadedMeerkat
      @TwoHeadedMeerkat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So what you're saying is everyone should haVE DONE THE *DEW!!! **_HELL YEAH!!!!_*

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      >Forsetti not on Ced
      Bruh

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Jokes aside I actually like Tailtu x Lewyn and Claude x Erin (or w/e names they go by these days). TAiltu x Lewyn allows Tinni to use tornado and gives you Forseti on chapter 6 to a unit that will be mounted. The glaring weakness is lack of pursuit, but eh, never been that much trouble for me. Claude x Erin allow Fee to actually utilize staves and gives her access to physic after promotion. The sage class itself is so absurdly broken, that with Claude's growths, Ced will max every stat save strength and will still shred through anything with just lightning and is also an amazing staff user too. Forseti Ced is kind of just overkill imo, even though it's canon.

    • @willbill6942
      @willbill6942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@DrewPicklesTheDark100% agree. Horsetti is so much more useful for it's join time and the mount in the second half of gen 2. Ced doesn't need any help, he'll be about as good with Shine as Forsetti, plus he's a foot locked staff bot during real battles

  • @Red-jq6bw
    @Red-jq6bw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I find hilarius how Marth's army managed to place so high in some regards and so low in others. Tho, it's easy to understand the reason for that to happen

  • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799
    @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I can believe that Seliph's army is canonically stronger than everyone else, holy blood is just built different

  • @elijahsanders7362
    @elijahsanders7362 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I think the fact that you nerfed seliph’s army and the Shepards and they placed in the top 2 is hilarious

  • @princedelta3980
    @princedelta3980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Now can we see which antagonistic force has the strongest army?

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mayhaps

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Lyon and his 160 reinforcement map enters the chat:

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@skeletonwar4445 infinite reinforcement chapter 4 Thracia soldiers: Hello there

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AzumarillConGafasBv Infinite void curse reinforcements alongside permanent air bombardment from engage's Camilla paralogue: Heyyyy

    • @GRK_21387
      @GRK_21387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wyvern ambush reinforcements of bern solos

  • @ness6099
    @ness6099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    I understand the pairings would be a lot to account for regarding FE4, but at the same time almost all of them have a "mostly canonical" pairing that you can just plug and play. Lex/Ayra, Lewyn/Erinys, Beo-*sees your profile pic*-Finn/Lachesis, etc. and going without these make things a little weird. For example, Ced would have a pretty solid 60% strength growth and easily cap it out... but he can't ever USE the strength stat, whereas things like Forseti would impact unit value if accounted for (at least the stat boosts) and perhaps change some things. Pairings like Brigid you can give her Holyn to max out Febail's growths and make him an 80 hp GOD, but mostly from a practical analysis standpoint it takes away utility like +20 speed, an uber bow, and the ability to resurrect the dead from them.
    Doesn't matter too much, this video was clearly a lot of work already and if you want to you can always say "other games have infinite reclassing/enough levels so every unit can reach their caps" to invalidate any advantages FE4 gives its units. God help 5 skill base Edelgard trying to hit Forseti Ced though...

  • @myewn
    @myewn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That Seliph phone case that popped up out of nowhere was a jumpscare, since that's my art lmao.

  • @MtelH
    @MtelH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This was an interesting take on ranking an army's strength. It actually makes a lot of sense considering how the stories play out for each of the armies.

  • @harrisonmurphy5727
    @harrisonmurphy5727 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a cool concept and very well done!

  • @pokemongirl5674
    @pokemongirl5674 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    was surprised on a few of these but this was very entertaining and educational to watch. Good job for making me laugh multiple times as the visual gags really worked :) 👍

  • @xenofes2
    @xenofes2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    The ranking number is just the total for all of a unit's stats, so you could've totaled it up pretty easily for the older games. It's an incredibly useless metric in-game, like you said, though.

  • @fatalfrostbyte
    @fatalfrostbyte 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is a dream come true, with all the work and research you put into it

  • @helpivebeencursedbyawizard1513
    @helpivebeencursedbyawizard1513 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    love the term "toothpaste brigade"

  • @yoder6162
    @yoder6162 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    Spoilers:
    You know, it shouldn't be a surprise that the Shepherds won strongest army since there was DLC of them fighting and beating all the other Fire Emblem armies throughout history, and at least in Fates, the Awakening cast were as useful as some of the later recruits in the game.

    • @Flamelance_Accendo
      @Flamelance_Accendo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That doesn't seem like a fair comparison. Because that is DLC content any game would have been capable of having in the present day.

    • @angrybisharp373
      @angrybisharp373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thought the dlc just had them beating up the lords and main antagonists
      And are the lords really the best units in their own games?

    • @CuteHimbo
      @CuteHimbo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@angrybisharp373It's not just the Lords. It's not the entire armies, but also not just the Lords. You can fight Clair, Ayra or Joshua for example.

    • @CuteHimbo
      @CuteHimbo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I... Honestly don't get your final point about Fates. The only Awakening characters in it are Selena, Odin and Laslow and... Yeah, they aren't exactly the best units in this game.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@CuteHimbo the awakening trio in fates is and odd topic in terms of power strength, we know they can be BS in awakening and in fact amongst the children in that game they are very hard to screw up and even then if you did they were still workable just not as optimized. in fates they kind of stand out in different scenarios though how a usual person would play fates nowadays some of their niches have faded away at this point like rallybot laslow. in conquest odin somewhat stands a chance but the other two struggle at finding a use

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    I'd say the most ridiculous army I've ever seen in a tactical RPG would be Prier's from La Pucelle Ragnarok. Massive stat numbers, capable to recruit monsters, there's an optional upgrade that allows the capture of "illegal" monsters and an item gives infinite movement, Pass *and* the ability to ignore chasms that can be traded before a unit's turn is over (which doesn't require being close to the other unit).

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      huh. Guess I have a new trpg to check out

    • @xanafer
      @xanafer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Disgaea universe in general has ridiculous power scaling

    • @TARDISES
      @TARDISES 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'd argue that international era SRW is up there too, because if we're talking game mechanics, then three words: Enemy Phase Spirits. Imagine having the ability to guarantee incoming attacks miss every single time - spirit commands can enable that (particularly Alert and the ally-targetable version Foresee), and the international era of SRW (so V, X, T, and 30, the latter of which has a few especially monstrously strong units as well, one particular 7-pilot unit can practically solo even the intended-as-an--optional-challenge 10-wave stages within only one or two turns because it has stuff that absolutely shatters the action economy) allow spirit commands to be used on enemy phase. It is as broken as it sounds, with the only limiting factor being pilot SP.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TARDISES And then you start to think about which mechas you can use in said games. Eva unit 01? Check. TTGL? Check. Mazinger Zero? You guessed it, check.

    • @ThisismineIguess
      @ThisismineIguess 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      then she stacks Braveheart-

  • @marcoantonioserrano5844
    @marcoantonioserrano5844 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Banger Video, looking forward to more :)

  • @celticwind4122
    @celticwind4122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This must’ve taken quite a while to edit it all do the research from each game. Props man, that’s impressive

  • @aleisterleopold6229
    @aleisterleopold6229 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In truth the strongest army is probably the army of the laguz alliance. The largest army (with actual numbers) lead by Ike. With a strategist soren

    • @Bike-chan
      @Bike-chan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Meh, seliph army still solos.

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander7472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's like "my dad could beat up your dad", if fire emblem's dads lived long enough to get two of them in a room together.

  • @KawixSkittle
    @KawixSkittle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm glad Leif was doing well.

    • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
      @chillstoneblakeblast3172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's No way Leif would have taken back Thracia without his Cream of the Crop Soldiers.

  • @athath2010
    @athath2010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Question about deployment limits: For Seliph's army, are you using the total number of gen 2 units in the game as his deployment limit, or the total number of gen 2 units you can have at the same time as his deployment limit? The latter would technically be his deployment limit, as it would be the highest number of units he could deploy in the same map.

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I decided to leave out a cap for him since I don't fe4 has a clause for maximum units you can field. If they're in your castle - you can deploy them.

  • @jacobdominguez4787
    @jacobdominguez4787 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I know why you didnt but considering how 3h lets you recruit the entirety of the other armies into your army Im curious how that would sque the results. Since that goes from say the best 10 units in one army to the 10 best units in the whole game. I have the same question for the Fates: Revelations army

  • @defaultstar6721
    @defaultstar6721 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You're telling me TMS #FE's 7 J-pop idols from modern somewhat magical Japan is not comparable to the likes of fully militarized, mostly-comprised-of-adult armies of FE?

    • @imickeymoose8370
      @imickeymoose8370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Counterpoint: each of those idols have hundreds if not thousands of HP, even at level 1. Based on the standard used for this vid, they stand a real chance

  • @enymetouche2558
    @enymetouche2558 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was balanced against Thracia since the start.

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thracia is balanced against Thracia from the start too, so it's thematically appropriate

  • @decarabiaumbra560
    @decarabiaumbra560 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now we have to compare them based on them having deployment slots equal to that of the game with the strictest level of deployment and then one where the max deployment cap is that of the smallest army i.e. the three houses students.

  • @isiahjocast1252
    @isiahjocast1252 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was a great video no doubt. Howmstever, you forgot the infamous Lyndis' Legion, the most op force Cealin has ever witnessed.

  • @JetblackJay
    @JetblackJay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One mistake all the Gen 2 units in Seliphs armies don't work for this video the other units would just be the substitute characters you get for failing to marry anyone in the game

  • @MassEffect94
    @MassEffect94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    In the midst of this chaotic battlefield, two heroes stand above the others and meet to have a fateful clash. Haar from radiant dawn, and Seth from Sacred Stones fight to the death. Erika holds her breath as the commander of the Renais army engages the enemy. Jill pray silently on the sideline and ponders why she isn't fighting Seth, as she is the true powerhouse here. Franz runs away, scared he will be somehow compared to Jill and refuses to fight a loosing battle.

  • @teensillustrated8426
    @teensillustrated8426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GIga CHAD Ike.... I loved that. This video was surprisingly fun to watch

  • @freetoplayking7362
    @freetoplayking7362 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I wonder what would happen if we include feats for each army (like Ike beating Ashera with an army that has Makalov on their side)
    Also, spoilers:
    The shepherds have Robin, someone who turned the tide of a sea battle when his side was out numbered by SETTING ALL BUT ONE OF THEIR BOATS ON FIRE AND RAMMING THEM INTO THE ENEMY BOATS
    *THEY HAVE CRAZY ON THEIR SIDE, OF COURSE THEY'D WIN*

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nowadays this would be a straight up warcrime. :D
      But he definitely has the highest headcount out of all tacticians.

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Aurirang how is war fun without war crimes?

    • @themaskedswordmaster2714
      @themaskedswordmaster2714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let’s not forget fighting on an actively erupting volcano for a terrain advantage? Mans crazy

  • @AzumarillConGafasBv
    @AzumarillConGafasBv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was surprised at seeing how Chrom's army was at the top of the list on sheer numbers, however, I'm affraid that Larcei soloes all of them

  • @sonickhable
    @sonickhable 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Awakening supremacy

  • @24hr-Gaming
    @24hr-Gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think it's fair to say optimized Morgan is probably the strongest unit in FE. But the Shepherds are pretty good overall.

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    as the master of mid i can tell that you for sure can rank at the top without ever being the best like no one ever was, if there are enough competitions added together that is

  • @caspianbchalphy
    @caspianbchalphy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I clicked on this video I thought it was going to be a combination of stats+amount of units available and the lore about of how powerful are TH crests and their respective items, FE4 bloodlines and their respective items, any similar things those, and how good of a tactician is the tactician aside from being player controlled.
    This was just that first point but I definitely enjoyed what I saw lol. Probably the easiest and most definitive way to do this but i can tell it wasn’t easy.

    • @caspianbchalphy
      @caspianbchalphy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Few things I want to add (mostly me rambling)
      I said “amount of units available” and not “deployment slots” since I assume in every game those that you don’t field but could are still helping out in the battle just in an offscreen part of the battlefield. In a head to head matchup I’d be thinking armies would use their full might so use their full roster.
      How good each army’s tactician(s) are is something difficult to prove. If you want to include player input do you count those casual players playing normally or do you go with LTC warp skipping and other shenanigans? Do you want to say that if a battle is more difficult and they get through it then that shows they are good tacticians? If that’s the case then how do you determine difficulty? Average from a limited group of players since you can’t get every fans response? Based on how the characters felt about that battle? Problem with that is I think if had battles that I thought were rather easy but after the battle they acted like it was a slog and may have been (or was close to being) a pyrrhic victory. Do we just use the stuff out of the player’s control and use the decisions made that got them to the battles. So the larger scale strategies as opposed to the smaller scale? I mean sure but there are still issues with that too. How do you determine what strategy is better than another? Someone could be great at larger scale strategies and troop movements but when it comes to a smaller scale they aren’t as good and vice versa.
      Lastly same problem as before but with the crests, bloodlines, and weapons+items. How do you determine which is stronger.

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah. I figured if I wanted the most accurate answer, I'd need an army of mt own just for research haha.

  • @marcelbelzer587
    @marcelbelzer587 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im just proud that I predicted the first place, great Video

  • @negarhythm
    @negarhythm หลายเดือนก่อน

    every time you put the cutscene still of alm crying over celica’s body i just started laughing. fun video! i’ll always be on their side even if they suck really bad

  • @mirkwood579
    @mirkwood579 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad my boi Roy was gaming in this competition. Hard mode bonuses do go kinda crazy.

  • @Gamenut5555
    @Gamenut5555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marcus with the “you tried” ribbon for me 😂😆

  • @ivanlagayacrus1891
    @ivanlagayacrus1891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "wow this video is really well made for such a low view count, i wonder why-" *4 minutes ago*
    im sorry brother, its in my blood
    FIRST!

  • @XLgamer1055
    @XLgamer1055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a super cool video! I’m guessing the Revelations army would have only done slightly better than Nohr and Hoshido if they were in play

  • @beodas5577
    @beodas5577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly it's not surprising Three Houses scored so low since all of them are like you said practicaly "villagers". The reason they scored so high in that one round was because Byleth is an excellent teacher with actual combat experience before the game even starts if nothing else.

  • @Temmie_on_smash
    @Temmie_on_smash 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool video. do it for all the feh units as well :)

  • @magtac1
    @magtac1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I took away one thing from this video.
    Arden is my daddy.

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Every time you feel like shit after only doing a little running, remember, that's Arden's legacy in you right there.

  • @findingliospugolini8979
    @findingliospugolini8979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Question! For Gen 2’s daddies, why Arden? Meme?

  • @hyperm8
    @hyperm8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Now I was thinking the Adrestian Army would be #1 but that's because I thought you were ranking these armies in a completely different manner, that is by feats. Long story short: monsters, giant robots and missles

    • @thunderknight4149
      @thunderknight4149 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I mean then we ask the question, do the have Agarthan support?

    • @rotciv557
      @rotciv557 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Ike solo'd a goddess, forget his army he would win a feat's match by himself.
      Hell, Robin + Chrom would also be ridiculously powerful featswise since they can easily solo their whole campaign by themselves thanks to pair-up.

    • @hyperm8
      @hyperm8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@rotciv557 Awakening pair up is just retarded lmao but I'm talking about feats lore wise. I can see Ike being an unstoppable force too but don't forget Byleth is a time manipulating God. Alm, Celica and Alear also have access to time shenanigans. I can see why the armies were ranked stat wise and not lore wise.

    • @thunderknight4149
      @thunderknight4149 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@rotciv557 Ike did not solo a goddess as he had help from the others in the three other army, including help from another goddess.

    • @vzabimaru7648
      @vzabimaru7648 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@thunderknight4149 Ike didn't solo, ofc isn't but Ike is the only one that can beat ashera or else ashera revive again because she's imortal.. even ike with yune blesing is consdering the strongest character in telius

  • @Chadzerker2
    @Chadzerker2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome video! Whilst it was in the rules to exclude capture units for the fates games, I feel Nohr would have pushed ahead if they were counted. Gazak alone can offer great value, whilst Haitaka and Kumagera do great and the others can do well. Hoshido may have won the battle, but not the war. NOHR ALL THE WAY!

  • @liamfitzpatrick3812
    @liamfitzpatrick3812 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Mathematically you did a good job, cannonically I personally feel like the only reason the 3 houses units even got as far as they did is due to the fact that game is about making children into demons. Jokes aside, great video.

  • @john98765333
    @john98765333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:16 You made it sound like they were going to be seperate armies there. lol But did you include all the tower and ruin characters you can recruit after the game for them?

  • @crazybakabaka
    @crazybakabaka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FE echoes [and Gaiden by technicality] does have a deployment limit… of 20. A number you can only reach in post-game or with DLC.

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMalite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wonder how characters scale based on whatever stated/shown feats exist. Final boss slayers aside, we got Effie bench pressing trees out here dude. I'd like to see Marth do that

    • @berserkerciaran
      @berserkerciaran 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And also Charlotte beating a handful of Faceless with her bare hands and knocking over a tree with one punch

    • @nicholasyuen5561
      @nicholasyuen5561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are we forgetting Cherche fought and tamed a wyvern when she was NINE? Granted, Minerva was weak then, but still

  • @a.v.5532
    @a.v.5532 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    As a Modern Fire Emblem fan, I'm so happy that Awakening and Engage are pretty high in the final results and that both Fates kingdoms are in top 10.

  • @eliminat20
    @eliminat20 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    See now I do understand the idea of no skills since all that is tough to calculate and no dlc since you could argue in most cases it theoretical and not all games had it, but I would be curious what the stat turnout would be if that was somehow included. I feel like bottom of the list Three Houses would have probably made its way to middle of the pack or higher (since you would also have to consider skills, crests and maybe even Relics).

  • @allenbergman1123
    @allenbergman1123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You know you calculated three houses wrong. You said you would do all recruitable characters yet each house had no one else recruited if you were going full Army strength you would have had everyone possible recruited including those from other houses

    • @gg_sam7847
      @gg_sam7847 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Relatively agree. Personally I would have removed the Church as you "technically" either don't play as them / they all have relatively pre-determined factions that they'd side with outside of the Church. And I'd argue it'd be the only time it'd be appropriate to include DLC as it literally just adds 1 character per faction.
      Anyway, if he was going to make it so each army was choosing only the strongest for their available deployment slots, it'd be appropriate to force include the characters that are originally in that faction

    • @uuiujyjujujyhqiqjeyi
      @uuiujyjujujyhqiqjeyi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But in universe (narrative-wise), why would units not fight for their home army?

  • @DarkOfLight42
    @DarkOfLight42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    music used in this video?
    thank you very much!

  • @StellarisEmblem
    @StellarisEmblem 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    8:49 i died 💀

    • @BeautifulGaston
      @BeautifulGaston 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      F.E.A.R. has one meaning: Fire Emblem Alios Rule 34

  • @BeefinOut
    @BeefinOut 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a way to somehow standardize the stats between the armies in different games? Some sort of flat multiplier per game that wipes out the fact that some games just have way higher stats than other games? Maybe something along the lines of:
    1. Calculate the combined stat caps of each individual lord to set a baseline (ie. Eliwood has 180, Ike has 300, or whatever the actual numbers are)
    2. Give the lowest total lord a multiplier of 1, and give each other lord a multiplier of (the lowest lord's cap totals) / (the given lord's cap totals). Ie, Ike's army would have a multiplier of 180/300 = 0.6
    3. Apply that multuplier to each army's numbers
    Not only would that address stat bloat in recent years, it would also address things like the str/mag split and the games that have weird stats like charm

    • @blahmaster6k
      @blahmaster6k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Three houses with 99 caps for all stats(iirc):

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blahmaster6konly Byleth has a 99 stat cap, in Charm. They’re just all so high that you’re never gonna reach them without a massive amount of grinding. Dimitri has like 90 strength iirc.

  • @jaimeXDgo
    @jaimeXDgo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Kinda poetic how the Awakening's army is the strongest, since there's a DLC where they go through the FE multiverse clapping older armies and by the end they're considered the most powerful army.

  • @rmkunita164
    @rmkunita164 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just can't take the name "toothpaste brigade" seriously lol. Anyways, great video!

    • @DenisCreatorBreaker
      @DenisCreatorBreaker 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would you rather they be named "pepsi fanclub"?

  • @dW-td2ul
    @dW-td2ul 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the three houses got screwed by units. If you can include recruited units, should they get every unit from every house with only the 2 unique units being the difference maker?

    • @megaspacewaffles
      @megaspacewaffles หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. It’s assuming you don’t recruit from out of house

  • @ajanis95
    @ajanis95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:00 Wow man. Doing my Wolves dirty.

  • @MrPaillan
    @MrPaillan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If fire emblem online was ever a thing, it should refer to this video for army balance between players.

  • @ShadowOrochi1377
    @ShadowOrochi1377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don’t know if I’m misunderstanding but won’t Engage and SoV be overall lower due to those games having overall lower growths. I also don’t know about caps but I would think those would also be affected.

    • @crazybakabaka
      @crazybakabaka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Idk about Engage, but I do know that growth rates have 0 effect on stat caps for SoV. All units have a max of 52 HP, 40 Res [not that you will ever reach this] and then all other stats average out to a 40 cap. Meaning without DLC, which grants a small stat cap boost, all units have a theoretical stat max of 292. In practice, it’s more like a cap of 252 + Res base. Although SoV doesn’t care about growths very much since stats are more based around class promotion providing a growth correction than a boost, same as 3H.

    • @Kylesico912x
      @Kylesico912x 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As for Engage, while the growths can be an issue, you also have to factor in skills and emblems giving the characters a boost.

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kylesico912xI mean... not for this video, you don't

  • @nickpkmntalos614
    @nickpkmntalos614 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A great video, but If this were all the armies against one another wouldn’t the same game armies not be put together ( since they would likely team up against someone else ) or would some games just be so skewed due to the high numbers, also the Laguz royal dragons and beast tribe were left out of army placement in fe10. And no fe9 or was that just be mute do too sequel game. But still all a great video

  • @blakerenimu9033
    @blakerenimu9033 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ha! I'm not surprised at all with with The Shepherds winning. Awakening is too easy to break

  • @thelostician
    @thelostician 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty neat video, but if we were discussing not on a stats standard and discussed the “lore” I doubt awakening would be remotely close to the top, because I wouldn’t consider A royal Retainer, or Royal knight to be weaker than a farmhand, or a Klutzy Pegasus knight riding a sexists Pegasus.

  • @DriftmadefromN
    @DriftmadefromN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:14 thanks lmao i am literally playing fe4 and have this in the background

  • @smackstar1015
    @smackstar1015 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    14:09 No favors, except for having the single best class in the series in Genealogy.

  • @elpopman2055
    @elpopman2055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Lorewise is Radiant Dawn/Path of Radiance. They Contain the strongest of Fire emblem characters.

    • @aidanhendricksen4832
      @aidanhendricksen4832 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And if we want to add skills you get a unit like this Wrath + Resolve + Vantage + (insert tier 3 skill that auto kills here)

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Absolutely not bro. Seliph would sweep all of Tellius in one chapter.

    • @willbill6942
      @willbill6942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd actually be pretty interesting to break things down by the canonical size. We know in many games that there are a lot more members of your army than you actually control/appear on the field

    • @FinalKaiserKami
      @FinalKaiserKami 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zxylo786 That is some hilarious bait right there bro. Nice try.

    • @Pmu_Sh0wd0wn
      @Pmu_Sh0wd0wn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zxylo786 If you're talking gameplay wise, Seliph's army wouldn't win unless they can deal with things like Mantle

  • @onewingedakuma6835
    @onewingedakuma6835 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah not surprised about the Three Houses lords. Edelgard and Dimitri have 2 exclusive units in their armies(Jeritza/Death Knight and Hubert for Edelgard. Dedue and Gilbert for Dimitri.)

  • @RDA000
    @RDA000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Radiant dawn should be high from Kurthnaga alone. Dude can level entire castles in seconds. Edit: Oh its stat based still guessing RD is top 5.

  • @justsomedude5727
    @justsomedude5727 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roys army: I swear when I finally hit you youre gonna feel it.

  • @santino7470
    @santino7470 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, two of my favorite armies consistently being in bottom tier was something I didn’t want to see but kinda expected.

  • @manawing9465
    @manawing9465 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be interesting to make a modded game with unmodified growths from each game somehow to make them fight but the amount of sheer work to get that rolling is absurd.

  • @porygonlover322
    @porygonlover322 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leif being that high with limited deployment and base stats actually does kinda track, Thracia has a bunch of obscenely powerful prepromotes

  • @xenocross6597
    @xenocross6597 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah that seems about right

  • @mintx1720
    @mintx1720 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forseti kills everything but loses to hunter's volley and swift strikes.

  • @Anonymos185
    @Anonymos185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shepards already topped the list at base.
    Now imagine including the busted-ass skills from Awakening into the discussion, lmao

  • @helious1818
    @helious1818 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now you should rank them by relative strength to the enemies of their games

  • @hectorlackless
    @hectorlackless 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lets go awakening

  • @smashblade6482
    @smashblade6482 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I mean with Awakenings shepherds having access to every class in the game (with minor gender differences) and Donnel, it makes a little sense to me.

  • @zxylo786
    @zxylo786 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Easily Seliph's. It's not even a debate. Atleast lore wise.

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lore-wise RD Ike's would be since they are literally blessed by Yune plus Lehran is effectively invincible, but Seliph would certainly be second.

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @DrewPicklesTheDark Almost all FE lords are blessed by gods. That to me is a nonfactor. I don't see 95% of the RD playable cast even touching Ares. Seliph's army has a way higher kill count, and I think House Friege and Velthomer have way better armies than Begnion or Crimea.

    • @BeautifulGaston
      @BeautifulGaston 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As a huge Genealogy enjoyer I would say the closest fight lore wise would be the RD armies. The scale in RD is equal to FE4 and they'd have absolute beasts like Caneghis, Nailiah, Tibarn, Kurthnaga and Ike himself. All in all I think it would come down to the highest level of fighters in duels on the battlefield, facing off against Ares, Altena, Ced, Shannan and Seliph too.
      I think you could interpret the 12 crusader weapons as "blessed", which would help them against the absolute chads like Black Knight, Lehran and Dheginsea. Especially if we're considering Julia with Naga tome for the fight! I still think Genealogy Gen 2 comes out on top in the end but RD's cast would probably give them the most trouble in the whole series

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lorewise it's always gonna be Alear's or Byleth's because nobody else got time rewinds.

  • @ChaolaoFueChi
    @ChaolaoFueChi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now, let's include the DLC.

  • @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
    @ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Shepherds are consistent in quality so I'm not surprised they made it in the Top 5.
    I was not expecting them to be #1, good work my homies!

  • @Knightgob
    @Knightgob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:50 come on man at least use incognito
    But don't blame you, fodlàn is packing fr

  • @luthierisbestboy8177
    @luthierisbestboy8177 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wish Valentia would stop getting the short end of the stick...

  • @SteelandSouls
    @SteelandSouls 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't mess with The Vaike, man

  • @GoonCommander
    @GoonCommander 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wanna see Modern FE fight Cavaliers that can gallop in place, Warriors that can jump 15 feet, and Forseti.

  • @ray0064
    @ray0064 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:55 Blue Lions gang stay winning!!! Fortune to Faerghus 😤
    Edit: Damn those Eagles, Gilbert sold us🤦‍♂️

  • @givecamichips
    @givecamichips 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:45 New Mystery was cracked, why are Darros and Minerva equal at base??

  • @fernandod4046
    @fernandod4046 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:02 i think this was the best part

  • @PeruvianPotato
    @PeruvianPotato 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:50 Ayo? What you be searching up?

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Im curious, when you made this did you count the use of Emblems towards the Engage army's results? They all add a bunch of raw stats, and theres enough to fully equip almost your whole deployment by the end of the game.

    • @Bicken
      @Bicken  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It's the same deal as skills where it just adds an unnecessary wrench in the stats

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Skills, Emblems, etc. don't really make sense to include because there's no good way to quantify them as numbers to add. Sure, he could've assigned a point value to each skill based on how generally good it is, but at that point anyone can just say "nu uh" cause they rank their skills differently.

  • @flight_knight_
    @flight_knight_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol I feel like this was pretty accurate. If you go by feats and numbers, Awakening characters are strong af. I mean u have to be to take on Grima.