WHAT YOU KNOW MAY NOT BE SO (Dr. Michael S. Heiser)

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  • "What You Know May Not Be So: How Biblical Prophesy is Unclear and Why" by Dr. Michael S. Heiser

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  • @cynthiabarto-hc3jq
    @cynthiabarto-hc3jq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Such a wise man with a faithful spirit. Always enjoy his perspective. Wish he was still with us! I pray I get to meet him in heaven someday! Thank you for posting these. ❤

  • @drdotter
    @drdotter 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Could I be right? Maybe.
    Could I be wrong? Maybe.
    Could I have some things right and some things wrong? Probably.
    Have I adjusted my beliefs after further study? Absolutely!
    Do I keep reading, studying, and listening to others who are also reading and studying? Again, absolutely!
    Why??? I do it not for some type of buzz but because God blesses those who earnestly study His scriptures and I love to learn!!!

    • @mondy710
      @mondy710 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Know the Lord thy God...

  • @childofgod2758
    @childofgod2758 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Thank u for posting Heisers teaching. Blessings to all

    • @andreamobeck200
      @andreamobeck200 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes! Thank You So Much! ❤✌️

  • @user-pw6xg9fu1n
    @user-pw6xg9fu1n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Good teaching.
    May your soul rest in eternal peace

  • @kikayme8134
    @kikayme8134 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Very good bible study, I need to take notes 📝

  • @steveclark8538
    @steveclark8538 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nice. “Certainty” is an epidemic among many modern Christians in the US. They crave it like water. Learning to be OK with uncertainty is a key to mental health.

  • @kellynigro2704
    @kellynigro2704 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Love Mikes lessons

  • @grbggaming6885
    @grbggaming6885 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Wow this is such fascinating stuff. I never knew "rulers" in that passage meant principalities and the evil ones! It makes so much sense that even the Apostles could not figure out where in the OT it talked about Jesus' coming. I'm still learning so much from him.

    • @ozdoublelife
      @ozdoublelife 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ☝🏼🙏🏼

  • @revalationrevaltion9291
    @revalationrevaltion9291 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mis this man

  • @7nflgirl
    @7nflgirl หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    BLESS YOU*

  • @prizerunner4828
    @prizerunner4828 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you so very much

  • @Petertutinski
    @Petertutinski 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Good stuff.
    A helpful note though on Amos 9. The Septuagint says “remnant of man” not Edom. Adam/Edom variant. James quote of the Septuagint fixes the error of the masoretic text.

  • @Miroslaw-rs8ip
    @Miroslaw-rs8ip หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The OT is a difficult book to digest because the events happened so long ago that historically we have lost a connection to it, it was also written over many centuries and isn’t chronologically written. However it is the foundation for the NT and thus extremely important, unfortunately when I went to seminary we only had one course to cover the OT which is insane 😖

    • @childofgod2758
      @childofgod2758 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seminary teaches VERY little on the supernatural either. In my humble opinion the evil ones have infiltrated EVERYTHING!

    • @leefury7
      @leefury7 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same thing can be said for the NT. And yet, the perspicuity of scripture is adequate unto salvation.

    • @leefury7
      @leefury7 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@childofgod2758 Then perhaps you went to the wrong seminary! But I would agree with you that what is taught in seminary has changed drastically even in the last 50-80 yrs. That said, like all formal schooling, it's only to prepare you for further study and investigation. It is a life long pursuit. You can't expect to have every jot and tittle explained to you in seminary, now can you?
      I was fortunate that I was able to attend an "angelology" class and to become life long friends with the professor who, even today at 97, still counsels Christians who are suffering harrassments from "spirits."

    • @childofgod2758
      @childofgod2758 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leefury7 no seminary( cemetery ) for me… studying scripture w/ help of Holy Spirit. And I agree a never ending journey of learning!! I look at it like I get to graduate when I am in the presence of the Most High someday. It’s very difficult with I have a loved one who has been oppressed by evil entity( s) for 8 long years. I feel very responsible as at the beginning I was ignorant believed their Dx.. Not until I saw and heard what I now know is from the unseen spiritual real … it is UNMISTAKABLE.( for lack of a better word) . I just wish I had understood what I do now ….. but I have to have faith in Gods design for her life. So happy there r ppl like urself learning what SHOULD be taught in seminaries re: the spiritual realm . As in my humble opinion the “ churches “ unfortunately just r not “equipping the saints “ for this battle. As I KNOW HOW REAL And Devastating this is to live thru and watch on an every day basis.such a helpless feeling. I’m confident God has a great plan for you. Thank u!!!!! Blessings and Godspeed brother!!!

    • @childofgod2758
      @childofgod2758 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leefury7 I did not attend seminary( cemetery) as Missler and many others call it. I have a new friend who has degree in Theology( attended seminary ) and has a degree in Psychology. He now helps those experiencing demonic oppression. I have
      a loved one who has been experiencing demonic oppression for eight long years I wish I had known before what I know now. At first, I believed the diagnosis but after seeing what I’ve seen and hearing what I’ve heard, there’s no mistaking what it reallyis. It is sad and it is such a helpless feeling not being able to help the one that you love . I do have faith that God has a great design for her life though, and that He WILL deliver her and heal her. So nice to hear what you are doing with your life as the seminaries and churches seem to really be failing and not equipping the Saints for battle. Thank you for what you’re doing as I am sure God has great plans for you!!! I wish you all the best. I send my blessings. GODSPEED!!!

  • @user-tx8fg7xp7p
    @user-tx8fg7xp7p วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoyable !

  • @iamtheteapot7405
    @iamtheteapot7405 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The sign is given to the house of David, not Ahaz specifically.

  • @1611AKJB
    @1611AKJB หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Some people read the prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 and say that it was fulfilled at that time with Ahaz. It is a dual prophecy. Here's why.
    Isaiah 7:14 does not refer to Ahaz or Hezekiah. It refers to Jesus. Here's why.
    Ahaz was a wicked King who "sacrificed his son" like the nation's.
    Judah was under attack by a coalition army of Syria and Ephraim. Ahaz and all the people became afraid. Ahaz didn't believe God who told David through the prophet Nathan twice in 2 Samuel that God would establish both David's house and his throne forever. Instead, Ahaz feared for his life and, instead of believing God and trusting Him, he thought he would be defeated and killed, ending the Davidic line.
    The Lord tells Ahaz to ask for a sign from Him.
    But Ahaz said, “I will not ask, and I will not put the LORD to the test.” Then God said, “Hear then, O house of David! Is it too little for you to weary men, that you weary my God also? Therefore the LORD himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. - Isaiah 7:12‭-‬14
    Those who think this sign was only given to King Ahaz dont understand it within the context of the chapter. The sign God gave was not to Ahaz but to the "the House of David."
    Eventually Ahaz had a son with Abi, the daughter of Zechariah. He didn't name his son Immanuel. His son's name was Hezekiah. Hezekiah means "God is my strength." Although Hezekiah was a good king, it was never said of him "God is with us."
    That prophecy wasn't given for Ahaz. It wasn't about Ahaz' wife. It wasn't about Ahaz' child. It was a sign given to the 'house of David'. The sign was that one day in the future, a child would be born in the Davidic line to a virgin. The sign also meant that Ahaz would not be defeated by the enemy and be killed since that would mean the house of David would be ended.
    Isaiah describes the child in Isaiah 9:6-7.
    6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
    Jesus became that child and only He fits that description perfectly. He became Immanuel. God is still with us today and forever.
    Some will argue that the Hebrew word הָעַלְמָ֗ה 'almah' in Isaiah 7:14 means young woman and not necessarily a virgin, which is בְּתוּלָ֕ה 'bethulah' in Hebrew. However, Rebekah is called a bethulah in Gen 24:16, and it states no man had known her. In Genesis 24:43 Rebekah is an almah. In Exodus 2:8 Moses' sister Miriam is called an almah. Both words can have the same meaning. In addition to that, the Septuagint has 'parthenos' (virgin) in Isaiah 7:14. That was the Bible used and quoted many times in the New Testament. Luke didn't reference that verse in Luke 1:31-33, and also used 'parthenos' (virgin). Anyone reading this passage would have immediately thought of Isaiah 7:14.
    Matthew, a disciple of Jesus and an Apostle who knew Mary well, absolutely knew what he was talking about when he clearly wrote in his gospel, Chapter 1:23, that Jesus fulfilled the sign which wasn't given to Ahaz, but was given to the house of David. Matthew also uses 'parthenos' (virgin).

    • @SquadJuiced
      @SquadJuiced 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love you. This is perhaps the first time in my personal youtube history of reading a comment and absolutely enjoying it. God bless you richly for sharing this.

    • @TheWhyisthatso
      @TheWhyisthatso 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isaiah 9:6-7 is not about Jesus.
      It's about David.....the coming Messiah.
      "The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will perform this ."

  • @Plaza_and_Mote
    @Plaza_and_Mote 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How can anyone know something that isn't true? Having said that, the title should be rendered: What you "know" may not be so.

  • @dewbye63
    @dewbye63 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "I am the only one who needs to know." When Jesus said, "Into your hands I commit my spirit," He was saying, "I sure hope you're right!"

  • @gentilejoshsaved1646
    @gentilejoshsaved1646 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    James had a strong Faith in God. No metaphors with that.

  • @CasperLCat
    @CasperLCat 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At least Heiser was honest about none of the evangelical prophecy positions really working. So why would God give us confusing and historically problematic guidance ? Couldn’t it be that this stuff is all man made ?

  • @eddyimpanis
    @eddyimpanis 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus didn’t pay for anyone’s sin. Jesus death was heroic, he sacrificed himself to begin the process of redemption. His death initiated the prosecution of Satan, the authority over death.

  • @leefury7
    @leefury7 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "Signs" are given to the Jews. It is wrong to conclude 1 Thes 5:1 introduces a totally different "time." Yet it is equally wrong to conclude that it is a continuation of what was just revealed. "Brothers" merely marks a new discussion in relationship to what Timothy was reporting to Paul what the Thessalonians situation was...due to their suffering for remaining believers in Christ. THey had misunderstood what happened to believers after they had died in relationship to the parousia. That was resolved in ch 4. Now the question is whether their tribulation was what occurs in The Tribulation to which Paul coddels them reminding them as to the *times* and the *dates.* Paul is now addressing the Day of the Lord from two different vantage points/perspectives. "You know full well," indicates that Paul's gospel presentation had included describing some particulars,, some specific particulars of the coming/future Day of the Lord (DotL) . What he had taught should have been adequate for them not to confuse their involvement in the DotL. "Hemera" / "day" sometimes is preferably translated "judgment." The DotL involves both salvation as well as the wrath of God. However, for true believers, we are not "destined unto wrath". Christ suffered God's wrath in our stead in His vicarious atonement. Thus we will escape that "hour of testing." (Rev 3). And while we're in Rev, I have found John's usage of the conditional or ingressive aorist be most interesting. In Jn 1:14, clearly an entirely new condition was entered into at the incarnation. Jn also uses it in Rev 1:19c as well as in Rev 4:1. IMHO, this was not by accident. To align this with Paul's "mystery", the Church is raptured prior to the coming DotL for if either the Rapture of the DotL were to proceed the other, the illustration of the surprise advent of the "thief in the night" doesn't make sense. When the Rapture occurs, the DotL is inaugurated. Therefore, in 2 Thes 2, Paul is right to sigh that the Thessalonians should know that the DotL is NOT present because they have not been raptured prior to its coming.
    I like all the caveats that Mike points out here and in other lectures, but that doesn't equate to say that we cannot "know" eschatological facts. In fact, Jesus chided the religious leaders for not knowing the "season/hour" of His coming. After all, Simeon and others knew. And so it is for the Church. We should know the "season." Obviously it is wrong to suggest we can know the day/hour. But that does not exclude knowing the "season."
    The "signs" were given to the Jews. If we, Christians, see "all these things" now being placed on the stage globally, we should recognize that the curtains could be pulled back at any moment. Knowing the "times and the dates" should then spur us on to serious evangelization. "For the darkness comes when no man can work." i.e. we'll be Raptured away and will no longer be able to share the saving-from-wrath good news to them. It is the Bride of Christ alone who does not suffer the coming wrath of God.

  • @ScottFrye000111222
    @ScottFrye000111222 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I trust him.....as much as the seventh day Adventists cult

    • @alanharris5716
      @alanharris5716 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Your comment looks like a dismissive insult without any intelligent back-up. Care to explain? Having read Heiser's books and watched many of his vids I, like many others, appreciate the insight he gives into the Scriptures. So why are you comparing him to a cult? Over to you . . .

    • @ozdoublelife
      @ozdoublelife 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alanharris5716Right!?

    • @Flirri
      @Flirri 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dear diary.

    • @dondgc2298
      @dondgc2298 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There are comments that add to our discussion and understanding- and then there are comments like this one, which does neither.

  • @tdrtdr2
    @tdrtdr2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    EXCEPT THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID WAS FOUND IN 1982 AND IT WILL BE RESTORED JUST LIKE AMOS AND THE COUNCIL OF JERUSALEM SAID IT WOULD.

  • @TommyStahr
    @TommyStahr 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    God blinded their eyes today as back then. 2Thess2:11 is here. They believe THE LIE

  • @papamosko3946
    @papamosko3946 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Heiser may be an expert on OT, but he fails to distinguish between prophecy and mistery, recognise that Paul was given a distinct gosple of salvation by grace through faith alone (this is rhe mistery hidden before the creation of the world hence it couldn't be a part of any prophecy) and inevitably ends up with the typical mistake of calling the church a spiritual Israel as he can't fully grasp what Paul had explained about Israel's salvation in the end which OF COURSE entails their promised Kingdom on earth, otherwise God would become a liar. Heiser is fun to listen to when it comes to OT, when he tries to venture to NT, it's nothing but the typical churchian confusion although he tries to appear as very "unorthodox" 😀

    • @DeltaDawn77
      @DeltaDawn77 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And what are your credentials?

    • @johndekoyer7588
      @johndekoyer7588 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Please enlighten us

    • @Lmr6973
      @Lmr6973 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please explain this Israel thing more.

    • @dondgc2298
      @dondgc2298 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe you should listen to Dr. Heiser’s in depth discussion of the role of Israel
      In the end times and then come back here and share with us the issues you have with his beliefs?