They are trying to say our gender identity doesn't exist and make misgendering legal. They treat transgender people like transvestite/crossdressers/Nonbinary which is not okay.
Not all tomboy girls grow up to be gay or trans, I was a tomboy as a kid, I'm not trans or gay. That seems like a modern thought, as when I was a kid that was never a thought, it was just something that some girls were & other are girly girls.
@@emmahowells8334 yeah. We were getting to a point where people stopped caring so much about conforming to gender stereotypes, and gender ideology just tosses all of that progress into the bin...
@@josie_the_valkyrie It really is. Those trans activists dress up in pink dresses and have Shirley Temple hairdos. They're just taking us back to the 1950s stereotypes.
This is true. I am a straight male and have been attracted to tomboys since I was born (a very long time ago!) My first gf (when I was 7!) was a tomboy and I have some very nice memories of another one. Tomboys rock!
Recently, a gay male friend of mine said that he's been told that he's not "diverse enough" to be involved with some LGBT groups.....he was absolutely flabbergasted.
Presumably because he is white? Maybe conservative too? Tells you all you need to know about how "inclusive" and "non-discriminatory" these so called groups really are.
@@soundseeker63 Most of them are white lol. Truth is, for the millions poured into annual pride parades and fashion/drag shows, the majority of minority lgbt individuals are in poverty and/or homeless. They don’t actually give a shit about minorities, they just use them to cover themselves.
@@punkgrl325 There is a racism problem within the LGBT community - which is probably why God Fearing Englishman's gay male friend was told he wasn't diverse enough - somebody trying to combat that racism.
I got involved in LGBT activism when I was a teenager in the 90s. I have no regrets but it's hard not to despair over the way things have gone! Welcome, LGB Alliance!
same here , thinking about the boomer generation who fight first then us with the aid pandemic to fight against and now we to see that delirious woke cr..p destroying all with their BS
What's with anti everything? Because you're not publicly promoting something, does that make you anti? I don't eat Granny Smith apples, I'm not anti-Granny Smith apples.
So then why don't you organize a "Apple (except for Granny Smith Apples) Alliance" group? Just because you have a club exclusively for apples, but make an overt point to exclude one type of apple, it doesn't mean you're against that type of apple. And just because you spend every waking moment of your life posting online about how you don't like that type of apple, doesn't mean you hate that type of apple. That's a totally normal thing to do.
@@bladee_enjoyer540 see, this is whee your wrong. the LGB Alliance doesn't only exclude trans, they exclude straights, queers, otherkins, and pans, and everything in between. What you are trying to suggest through your sarcasm in that a group be formed to include EVERY SINGLE type of apple, except 1: the Granny Smith. There in-lies the difference. Also, and I know you'll disagree with me, but they brought it on themselves with all the crazy rhetoric the spill. Woman don't want their intrusion, straights don't want them telling them they're phobic for not dating trans people, lesbians and gays don't want the same, normal people who just couldn't care otherwise don't want their language being policed (especially if they dont see trans people as the gender they claim) and of course the religious people are totally against them for questionable reasons. Who aren't they pissing off?
@@symoneprice798 most trans people are also L, G or B. this pointless distinction is nonsensical, and it's also a lie. these groups exist for the sole purpose of harassing and demeaning trans people. they spend most of their energy denouncing trans people, and most of them aren't even L, G or B.
You're mostly right, although 'T' meant 'transsexuals' who were a small and vulnerable group, it was still ok and there are still feelings of solidarity between post-op transexuals and the gay community, it's only when we got the whole self gender identification, the weird reappearance of 'Q' word which to anyone gay is as bad as the 'N' word, and a lot of alphabet soup non-binary nonsense (from mostly a lot of entitled middle-class blokes) that the trouble started.
Transgender people have been part of the community by necessity and commonality since the dawn of time, so I don't know what you're saying. Many trans people may discover their identity through the greater community, and there are of course Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Trans people too.
I think the LGB has the right to dropped the T. The T wouldn’t be on the community if the LGB accepted them to begin with. T made the community so toxic and having backlash.
@@mostlypixels2975 Yeah, they’re literally saying gay people are inherently transphobic because they prioritize genitals over everything else. It’s insane.
Transgender people did nothing toxic, over sexualised and sex obsessed crossdressers pretending transgender is the same thing did this. We are not the same. Transgender NOT transvestite.
Makes absolute sense. Cannot have a rational discussion with anyone who interprets disagreement as "hate". It is a bullying strategy which is working. It is very concerning to see major institutions, corporations, governments cave in to this kind of intimidation so easily and so fast.
THEY ARE REDEFINING WORDS AND WHAT THEY MEAN...”disagreement” doesn’t mean hate or violence or anti or intolerant!! Very clever way of shutting down any and all opposition or even questions.
Not really. It would only be the same if the Anthony Nolan trust went on and on and on about Lung Cancer, that would we say that they're not really about Leukaemia.
It's ironic that people assumed, without any basis, that no T in the title meant the group is anti-trans. Yet there are trans individuals and groups out there who have openly said that gay and lesbian people are "discriminatory" for being exclusively attracted to their own sex.... Hypocrisy much?
What annoys me is that the T treat sex-based attraction as something that should be "unlearned". "You're not really a lesbian if you don't like girldick. You need to unlearn your genital preference, bigot". Do they not see how screwed up that is?
Why did he have to justify his organisation. No one asked cancer research if they are anti trans. If LBG want their own charity and movement that's up to them. LBGTQ+ covers it all. You have the right to join what ever organisation you want. If trans set up their own movement would they be asked if they are anti Gay. I think not
Because the TQ are absolutely furious that LGB Alliance exists. They have, on many occasions, done everything they can to get funding cancelled and the Alliance shut down. They've also had people fired from their jobs for being a part of the organisation. Web search Allison Bailey. They want to explain their position, so that hopefully people will not instantly join the hive mind that claims that they hate trains people.
The letters LGBTQ ‘appear’ to cover it all but organisations such as Stonewall who are supposed to be LGBTQ only ever focus on the T and everything thereafter. We as LGB people have had enough. I want to talk about being a same-sex attracted biological female and access the services and safe spaces I need without a Stonewall-backed blue haired kid telling me I’m transphobic if I don’t want to shag men in dresses and that a woman is anyone who says they’re a woman. WE. HAVE. HAD. ENOUGH.
Sex-based rights are indeed - at the very least - "in tension with" gender-based ones. But since sex is a real thing and gender is just made up, this doesn't matter.
It could be argued that both are similar in that both face pullback due to anti advocate positions that highlight biological concerns. There is much disagreement that gays should raise children due to the concern that there is no biological mother. There is some validity to these arguments
@@amyh3223 Stonewall, founded as a gay rights organisation, now defines homosexuals as those who are attracted to those of the same gender, and denounces those solely attracted to the same sex as 'sexual racists'.. That means it is now an explicitly homophobic organisation (in the old - than than NewSpeak - definition of that term).
It's fair enough, considering things like Stonewall no longer cover anything other than gender identity related issues, and in fact are starting to claim that sexual orientation is based on identity rather than sex (how that's supposed to work I don't understand)
Why are many gay folks wanting to drop the TQ from LGB organization? Nothing against trans folks per se but some of the louder activists are turning me OFF!! Being told to use "They" pronoun and thinking it is ok for some big strapping man now claiming to be a woman and then signing up to compete in women's sports is looney tunes. Time the trans folks get their own organization
Hate crimes are going back to the 19th century levels, and its because of radical trans activists. A school shooting, attempting to change traditional sports, massive boycotting of a famous beer, they have hijacked LGBT they bullying lesbians to sleep with once male now female people...with penis. Bathrooms, drag Queens in schools, thousands of different genders..pushing children to life changing surgery and hormones. And the fact that they think they can just transform gone against "I can't change" because apparently you can just put a wig on..gender identity has NOTHING to do with sexuality. All is heard about is they/them and it's made the whole community a circus. They are dragging people down with them what they ask is too heavy for society, nobody can hold them up without going to rock bottom with they/them+QXZP WHATEVER!!!
I feel her is really articulated LGB aims. I think the trans-militant group doesn't want to have open discussions about the whole issue of people now being pressurised into having extremely evasive gender resignment. Watch the spiked discussions with Brendan O'Neil. I am 100% with the LGB alliance.
That's because T represents transvestite under the sexuality umbrella LGBTQI+ and in fact transgender = gender identity not sexuality. Hence gender not sex.
I am 30 years ahead of this alliance in experience of female erasure. My ex husband went down cross sex path 1992, just after our second son was born. He wanted to be identified as "mama" or some other version of Mum. These individuals create their own linguistic, institutional and legal capture. Despite Kiera Bell and all those like her, who've been pressured to irreversible changes to their bodies, at young ages, they will never take responsibility for a bad diagnosis.
Not yet... not yet? When then? You've had Brexit, you've got a Tory majority and an opposition that can never win in a million years... so why is Britain woker than ever?
Many hetero men are not affected by this whole gender stuff but large amount of heterosexual women have begun to suffer the effects of unfettered trans activism and self id. Read up on what happened to a woman at the Wi Spa in California after she reported a flasher who claimed to identify as a woman. Wonder how convicted rapists claim to identify as women so they can be incarcerated in women's prisons.
Women are affected by it and men are slowly being affected to. These People are not fools they know who holds the power. Eg women are called bodies with vaginas, men are still called men in health literature. Mens sport is unaffected. Want they want is a society where no one is female, no one is male and sexualities do not exist....it is all the constructed gender identities....trouble is they never ask the rest of us about it...... Delia Morris
@@teddy2185 I just think no matter what they need to be two separate movements, I’m not against either, just one is sexuality and the other is gender, that’s all
Very simply, all people deserve to be treated with respect however in saying that, sometimes you need separate groups to advocate for them properly. In this case, advocating for sexuality is separate to advocating for gender identity. Sometimes they overlap but not always and this means that you do need to be able to campaign without conflating the issues
Hallelujah thank god everybody has that right to stand up for themselves, in their unique edible right to be, with out judgement, hatred, jealously, or anger…LGB all the way….
Do what? Form their own group? I'm not.a separatist & I hear some women at the recent LGB Alliance conference were offended by gay men talking about their dicks. Why? I get annoyed when straight men do it because it feels like some sort of aggressive mating signal. Signal all you want at other men, as long as it's not at me!
Where the fuxk have you been? Feminists have been warning and opposing this and losing their jobs because of it for a few years. You are late to the game and as always with misogynists ready to blame feminists for everything you have never done or stood up for. Get off our backs!!
Many trans men have cervixes. Also - pretty much everyone has the cervix that attaches your head to your body (cervix meaning neck). Not all cis women have cervixes - having a cervix or not is not the deciding factor for if you're a woman.
@@andrewdavies5637 That’s a false equivalence; those are considered actual medical issues and not the norm. Meanwhile, unlike biological women without cervixes - which comes with a whole host of its own issues and it’s understandable if people don’t want to date them either, it is healthy and normal for transwomen to not have them and for transmen to have them. Comparing the two cases is a false equivalence. Besides, you don’t even seem to be trans nor a women. Please stop speaking for those of us who are negatively impacted first hand by all the current toxic ideologies invading our spaces, thanks.
@@punkgrl325 Oh I'm sure women who don't have cervixes will be so happy that you're saying they're undateable (and that it's a valid position to not want to date them). This must be the brave new feminism I keep hearing about.
@@LZ130GraffZeppelinII I’m not insane for wanting to be called something else. And trying to sever a community that was together for YEARS against their will is awful.
None, he has the same rights as straight people, he can now get married, he can vote, he can own property, he can join any organisation he chooses even be an MP if he wishes.
It's the right to say being gay is about same-sex attraction and not same gender attraction without being vilified or accused of transphobia by the trans activists.
When exactly were stonewall anti-trans? Same sex attraction has nothing to do with 'identity'. Stonewall only added the T because it needed money. Gender ideology is harmful to the LGB, therefore the Alliance is much needed.
Not an anti- trans hate group, but when a trans bisexual woman attends the meeting she read the pamphlet which is literally laced with anti trans rhetoric and is met with physical in person harassment for telling a joke about the bathroom. So it’s funny when Chapelle makes jokes, but not when Jen Ive’s does right? Gaslight much?
"We're not an anti-trans group" and then goes on about how they only talk about the "problem" of trans people. I'm still waiting for them to come up with a single thing they're doing for the gay community that isn't anti-trans.
@@beevandyke1959 Defining my sexuality in a way that says I'm not gay any more because I find trans men attractive, that's not doing something good. Saying that you can't have LGBT groups in schools because of "predatory male teachers" - basically associating being gay man with being a paedophile - that's really really bad. Saying that bisexual people who are currently in a heterosexual relationship can't go to gay bars or spaces - no, just no.
@@beevandyke1959 why would any trans women (who is not a man in a dress) want to date someone that hates them? Just because you don't like trans people doesn't mean that everyone does. I'm sorry you can't see that. You are a bigot because you call a trans women "a man in a dress" not because you don't want to date trans people (even if your attraction is rooted in transphobia). Also - you're continuing to prove my point that the LGB Alliance doesn't care about anything other than excluding trans people. Can you name a single thing not related to being trans that they've ever done?
Maybe living the best life they can, lesbian and gay do not spend their whole life as some political performance. Many TRA seem to think they can tell others how to live our lives. Delia Morris
thank you for comment truly not enough people see how out of this world batshit insane this take is. LGBT+< hmmmmmmmm but what is this missing LGB< HAHA I have solved it we are now normal the rest of yea's can go suc eggs. it's a very "I got mine" attitude like a poor person who's come into a lot of wealth now making it harder for people like them to be wealthy.
Wanting misgendering made legal which was marked in 2019 by the crown prosecution as the basis of transhate crimes, both verbal and physical is anti-trans. It's also making sexist acts online more predominant and will make it legal if their charity status is not removed in march-may with support of genuine charity Mermaids. You can support all trans people by supporting mermaids court case against the hate group supported by labour party @ www.crowdjustice.com/case/lgba-charity-status/
Why do you see hate everywhere? It really isn't you know. This used to be called "paranoia". You're like those obsessed religious types from centuries ago who saw demonic possession and satanism and witches everywhere. It's not a sign of a healthy, well-adjusted individual. Do yourself, and everyone else, a favour and use the word "hate" a bit more judiciously. You might be happier for it.
@@sleepysmurf Brilliant rebuttal. Take a look at yourself. Listen to what the man in the video is clearly explaining and try to come up with something smarter than "Go take your hate supporting etc elsewhere" You just demonstrated what @Douglas Freeman was arguing.
He could have explained it much simpler: LGB are sexualities, T is identity. One of these things is not like the others.
Exactly. Two sentences, done. Mic drop.
Neatly put
We're all gender non-conforming, and being Lesbian, Bisexual or Gay are all identities too.
@@andrewdavies5637 .. is heterosexuality an identity to, well it must be based on what you posted. Delia Morris
They are trying to say our gender identity doesn't exist and make misgendering legal. They treat transgender people like transvestite/crossdressers/Nonbinary which is not okay.
The fact that there were only trans people at the LGBT stand said enough to me.
Check out lesbian and women's groups online as well - they're almost entirely taken over by males now.
@@josie_the_valkyrie I've spent the last 15 years checking out lesbians and women online 😂 seen all of their videos lol
@@sonny2593 Now that's how we get the straight men onside, "They're coming for your lesbian p0rn!"🤣🤣🤣
Not all tomboy girls grow up to be gay or trans, I was a tomboy as a kid, I'm not trans or gay. That seems like a modern thought, as when I was a kid that was never a thought, it was just something that some girls were & other are girly girls.
Modern thinking is apparently VERY regressive.
@@josie_the_valkyrie Some is some isn't, apparently you have the modern thought that isn't really modern thought.
@@emmahowells8334 yeah. We were getting to a point where people stopped caring so much about conforming to gender stereotypes, and gender ideology just tosses all of that progress into the bin...
@@josie_the_valkyrie It really is. Those trans activists dress up in pink dresses and have Shirley Temple hairdos. They're just taking us back to the 1950s stereotypes.
This is true. I am a straight male and have been attracted to tomboys since I was born (a very long time ago!) My first gf (when I was 7!) was a tomboy and I have some very nice memories of another one. Tomboys rock!
When they say they're afraid it's always a lie. They're not afraid, they're wielding power against you.
They want to make you afraid.
In fact, their power is completely out of proportion to their numbers
Yes, just like a narcissist or a sociopath.
@@TheFiddle101 Maybe numbers of people but not numbers of dollars. They are funded by billionaires and Big Pharma.
@@joogabah Yes, unfortunately
Recently, a gay male friend of mine said that he's been told that he's not "diverse enough" to be involved with some LGBT groups.....he was absolutely flabbergasted.
@Neria Wolf I have! :)
Presumably because he is white? Maybe conservative too? Tells you all you need to know about how "inclusive" and "non-discriminatory" these so called groups really are.
@@soundseeker63 Most of them are white lol. Truth is, for the millions poured into annual pride parades and fashion/drag shows, the majority of minority lgbt individuals are in poverty and/or homeless.
They don’t actually give a shit about minorities, they just use them to cover themselves.
@@punkgrl325 There is a racism problem within the LGBT community - which is probably why God Fearing Englishman's gay male friend was told he wasn't diverse enough - somebody trying to combat that racism.
He'd probably be more welcome in Straight organisations..
I am really glad that the LGB Alliance exists. I don't want to be associated with the LGBT...etc. squad who became such a hateful and divisive mob.
AMEN 🙌
not this bitch thinking she ate that 💀💀
By "unsafe" they mean "offended", "petulant" and/ or "furious".
How dare we not make everything all about them?🙄
unsafe = panties rising up buttcrack
All purely narcissistic reactions!
As with all narcissists, they are afraid of being attacked with words that make sense...
They're not scared
They're using fear wen it's facts they hate
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I got involved in LGBT activism when I was a teenager in the 90s. I have no regrets but it's hard not to despair over the way things have gone! Welcome, LGB Alliance!
same here , thinking about the boomer generation who fight first then us with the aid pandemic to fight against and now we to see that delirious woke cr..p destroying all with their BS
@Delphoene Evenhuis that’s not the trans fault
@@teamtundra2619 it is
girl if u a dumbass just say that 😭😭😭
@@teamtundra2619 it’s defo there fault🤫
WE LOVE LGB ALLIANCE
we = dumbasses
What's with anti everything? Because you're not publicly promoting something, does that make you anti?
I don't eat Granny Smith apples, I'm not anti-Granny Smith apples.
So then why don't you organize a "Apple (except for Granny Smith Apples) Alliance" group? Just because you have a club exclusively for apples, but make an overt point to exclude one type of apple, it doesn't mean you're against that type of apple. And just because you spend every waking moment of your life posting online about how you don't like that type of apple, doesn't mean you hate that type of apple. That's a totally normal thing to do.
It's the new black and white world of social media. No room for grey areas and possible common ground. Depressing really.
It's the fact that all they talk about is the "problem" of being trans, rather than actually advocating for any policies that affect LGB people.
@@bladee_enjoyer540 see, this is whee your wrong. the LGB Alliance doesn't only exclude trans, they exclude straights, queers, otherkins, and pans, and everything in between. What you are trying to suggest through your sarcasm in that a group be formed to include EVERY SINGLE type of apple, except 1: the Granny Smith. There in-lies the difference. Also, and I know you'll disagree with me, but they brought it on themselves with all the crazy rhetoric the spill. Woman don't want their intrusion, straights don't want them telling them they're phobic for not dating trans people, lesbians and gays don't want the same, normal people who just couldn't care otherwise don't want their language being policed (especially if they dont see trans people as the gender they claim) and of course the religious people are totally against them for questionable reasons. Who aren't they pissing off?
@@symoneprice798 most trans people are also L, G or B. this pointless distinction is nonsensical, and it's also a lie. these groups exist for the sole purpose of harassing and demeaning trans people. they spend most of their energy denouncing trans people, and most of them aren't even L, G or B.
Since they added the T to the community, it’s been nothing but trouble
And T stands for Tyranny, Tantrums. Tempers, and Testosterone.
My 2 gay friends don't want to have anything to do with these nutters! 😏
@@desres2281 good on them... i wouldn't either they are a bunch of cry baby mongs
You're mostly right, although 'T' meant 'transsexuals' who were a small and vulnerable group, it was still ok and there are still feelings of solidarity between post-op transexuals and the gay community, it's only when we got the whole self gender identification, the weird reappearance of 'Q' word which to anyone gay is as bad as the 'N' word, and a lot of alphabet soup non-binary nonsense (from mostly a lot of entitled middle-class blokes) that the trouble started.
Transgender people have been part of the community by necessity and commonality since the dawn of time, so I don't know what you're saying. Many trans people may discover their identity through the greater community, and there are of course Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Trans people too.
Gays,Lesbians and Bisexuals aren't demanding that Trans groups and Charities include them and calling them homophobes for not doing so.
I think the LGB has the right to dropped the T. The T wouldn’t be on the community if the LGB accepted them to begin with. T made the community so toxic and having backlash.
T are erasing what it means to be gay and lesbian too when they say attraction is gender-based rather than sex-based.
@@mostlypixels2975 Yeah, they’re literally saying gay people are inherently transphobic because they prioritize genitals over everything else. It’s insane.
Transgender people did nothing toxic, over sexualised and sex obsessed crossdressers pretending transgender is the same thing did this. We are not the same. Transgender NOT transvestite.
@@sleepysmurf lol
Best comment. Thank you
My my people are delicate in our society, disagreements are hate crimes and are the basis for firing how ridiculous.
The strident, unsupported accusations of transphobia have had a very negative impact on a lot of individuals.
No matter where I turn with this issue it all seems to point to one problem.
Stonewall.
Makes absolute sense. Cannot have a rational discussion with anyone who interprets disagreement as "hate". It is a bullying strategy which is working. It is very concerning to see major institutions, corporations, governments cave in to this kind of intimidation so easily and so fast.
If there is a LGBT+, why can't there be a LGB? Is hating the notion that people describe everything being a "Hate Crime" a hate crime?
Let's Go Brandon!
THEY ARE REDEFINING WORDS AND WHAT THEY MEAN...”disagreement” doesn’t mean hate or violence or anti or intolerant!! Very clever way of shutting down any and all opposition or even questions.
On another page, one commentator wisely wrote 'just because you hate it does not make it hate speech', which I thought was so perfect.
C Conroy ..Yes. There’s a difference between “Hate Speech” and speech that you hate!
It's like saying The Anthony Nolan Trust is biased against other cancers because they only focus on Leukemia 🙄
Not really. It would only be the same if the Anthony Nolan trust went on and on and on about Lung Cancer, that would we say that they're not really about Leukaemia.
Well done. Very good explanation of why LGB Alliance was founded and what it stands for.
Can you identify how LGB Alliance helps specifically LGB people?
@@PhantomKaratOfficial For starters by not redefining being gay to same 'gender' attraction like Stonewall.
@@PhantomKaratOfficialit defends them from the majority rightful accusations against the T
@@wussipuss862 and what are these accusations
@@blackhole7909 child grooming and such
It's ironic that people assumed, without any basis, that no T in the title meant the group is anti-trans. Yet there are trans individuals and groups out there who have openly said that gay and lesbian people are "discriminatory" for being exclusively attracted to their own sex.... Hypocrisy much?
What annoys me is that the T treat sex-based attraction as something that should be "unlearned". "You're not really a lesbian if you don't like girldick. You need to unlearn your genital preference, bigot". Do they not see how screwed up that is?
And T only organisations.
Why did he have to justify his organisation. No one asked cancer research if they are anti trans. If LBG want their own charity and movement that's up to them. LBGTQ+ covers it all. You have the right to join what ever organisation you want. If trans set up their own movement would they be asked if they are anti Gay. I think not
Cash Kitty if LGBTQ+ "did it all" the LGB Aliance would not have been needed.
Because the TQ are absolutely furious that LGB Alliance exists. They have, on many occasions, done everything they can to get funding cancelled and the Alliance shut down.
They've also had people fired from their jobs for being a part of the organisation. Web search Allison Bailey.
They want to explain their position, so that hopefully people will not instantly join the hive mind that claims that they hate trains people.
@@josie_the_valkyrie yes, I know. I think they tried to get Alison Bailey dismissed from her job!
The letters LGBTQ ‘appear’ to cover it all but organisations such as Stonewall who are supposed to be LGBTQ only ever focus on the T and everything thereafter.
We as LGB people have had enough. I want to talk about being a same-sex attracted biological female and access the services and safe spaces I need without a Stonewall-backed blue haired kid telling me I’m transphobic if I don’t want to shag men in dresses and that a woman is anyone who says they’re a woman.
WE. HAVE. HAD. ENOUGH.
Sex-based rights are indeed - at the very least - "in tension with" gender-based ones. But since sex is a real thing and gender is just made up, this doesn't matter.
It could be argued that both are similar in that both face pullback due to anti advocate positions that highlight biological concerns. There is much disagreement that gays should raise children due to the concern that there is no biological mother. There is some validity to these arguments
@@amyh3223 Stonewall, founded as a gay rights organisation, now defines homosexuals as those who are attracted to those of the same gender, and denounces those solely attracted to the same sex as 'sexual racists'.. That means it is now an explicitly homophobic organisation (in the old - than than NewSpeak - definition of that term).
It's fair enough, considering things like Stonewall no longer cover anything other than gender identity related issues, and in fact are starting to claim that sexual orientation is based on identity rather than sex (how that's supposed to work I don't understand)
At 85, I can remember the time when we had men & women, boys & girls & gay meant happy. It seemed to work quite well... 🤔
Maybe not for the same-sex attracted people who had to keep it quiet, though, eh?
Why are many gay folks wanting to drop the TQ from LGB organization? Nothing against trans folks per se but some of the louder activists are turning me OFF!! Being told to use "They" pronoun and thinking it is ok for some big strapping man now claiming to be a woman and then signing up to compete in women's sports is looney tunes. Time the trans folks get their own organization
Hate crimes are going back to the 19th century levels, and its because of radical trans activists. A school shooting, attempting to change traditional sports, massive boycotting of a famous beer, they have hijacked LGBT they bullying lesbians to sleep with once male now female people...with penis. Bathrooms, drag Queens in schools, thousands of different genders..pushing children to life changing surgery and hormones. And the fact that they think they can just transform gone against "I can't change" because apparently you can just put a wig on..gender identity has NOTHING to do with sexuality. All is heard about is they/them and it's made the whole community a circus. They are dragging people down with them what they ask is too heavy for society, nobody can hold them up without going to rock bottom with they/them+QXZP WHATEVER!!!
'Felt unsafe'......what did these big, all-grown-up ADULTS think those horrid, thuggish gays and lesbians were actually going to DO to them?
I feel her is really articulated LGB aims. I think the trans-militant group doesn't want to have open discussions about the whole issue of people now being pressurised into having extremely evasive gender resignment. Watch the spiked discussions with Brendan O'Neil. I am 100% with the LGB alliance.
While I do feel sorry for those who legit suffer from gender dysphoria, the “T” overall has done far more harm than good.
That's because T represents transvestite under the sexuality umbrella LGBTQI+ and in fact transgender = gender identity not sexuality. Hence gender not sex.
Sexual orientation is different from gender dysphoria. It's not complicated.
Great interview
They felt unsafe? Do they get scared when they see a snail?
They're not scared. What do they think is going to happen to them ? They forever play victim.
I am 30 years ahead of this alliance in experience of female erasure. My ex husband went down cross sex path 1992, just after our second son was born. He wanted to be identified as "mama" or some other version of Mum. These individuals create their own linguistic, institutional and legal capture. Despite Kiera Bell and all those like her, who've been pressured to irreversible changes to their bodies, at young ages, they will never take responsibility for a bad diagnosis.
Wow. Sorry to hear this happened to you. Hope you've managed to find happiness beyond what appears to me to have been an abusive relationship.
@@TheFiddle101 Thx, I have. You can find interviews of me on YT channel:
You're Kiddin', Right?
We Grass Widows have all been abused.
@@happilyretired2868 I'll check it out, thank you!
Lmao why r u so pressed about it tho
@@MierRocio Because it affected her…. Lol?
As a woman, I support this group!
Not yet... not yet? When then? You've had Brexit, you've got a Tory majority and an opposition that can never win in a million years... so why is Britain woker than ever?
Partly a legacy of Theresa May, but yes.
get the fark out of the way wokesters....there's a new LGB in town... Let's Go Brandon
Its the ONLY LGB in town.
The vast majority of the population have literally zero interest in any of this.
But yet here you are.
@@mildredsparks6684 Vast majority doesn't mean everyone.
They don't know about it but they will as trans demands become ever more extreme...why are you here also?
Many hetero men are not affected by this whole gender stuff but large amount of heterosexual women have begun to suffer the effects of unfettered trans activism and self id. Read up on what happened to a woman at the Wi Spa in California after she reported a flasher who claimed to identify as a woman. Wonder how convicted rapists claim to identify as women so they can be incarcerated in women's prisons.
Women are affected by it and men are slowly being affected to. These People are not fools they know who holds the power. Eg women are called bodies with vaginas, men are still called men in health literature. Mens sport is unaffected. Want they want is a society where no one is female, no one is male and sexualities do not exist....it is all the constructed gender identities....trouble is they never ask the rest of us about it...... Delia Morris
Thank you, Malcolm Clark!
What has being gay have to do with thinking you are the wrong gender?
Nothing, that's why the LGB has nothing in common with the T.
HES SPEAKING THE TRUTH TRANS IS NOT THE SAME THING
You mean not all trans are the same "thing"
Sexuality is not Gender Identity.
Transvestite/crossdresser is not Transgender.
I'm all for LGB, Let's Go Brandon!
The LGB needs to separate from the T
Bro you miss the whole concept
@@teddy2185 I just think no matter what they need to be two separate movements, I’m not against either, just one is sexuality and the other is gender, that’s all
@@suitcase6698 Ones not trying to drag society into wonderland too.
Gay here, LGB alliance is my organization, T can have their own organization…..
Eloquent, excellent.
Very simply, all people deserve to be treated with respect however in saying that, sometimes you need separate groups to advocate for them properly. In this case, advocating for sexuality is separate to advocating for gender identity. Sometimes they overlap but not always and this means that you do need to be able to campaign without conflating the issues
Respect is earned not given. Remember that.
LETS GO BRANDON is not racist or anti-trans
After hearing all of this I feel like I have just arrived from another planet! 👽
Hallelujah thank god everybody has that right to stand up for themselves, in their unique edible right to be, with out judgement, hatred, jealously, or anger…LGB all the way….
Good for them. Now we need the feminists to do the same.
Do what? Form their own group? I'm not.a separatist & I hear some women at the recent LGB Alliance conference were offended by gay men talking about their dicks. Why? I get annoyed when straight men do it because it feels like some sort of aggressive mating signal. Signal all you want at other men, as long as it's not at me!
What rock have you been under to make that comment???
Where the fuxk have you been? Feminists have been warning and opposing this and losing their jobs because of it for a few years. You are late to the game and as always with misogynists ready to blame feminists for everything you have never done or stood up for. Get off our backs!!
Plus did you know the female leaders of lgb are feminists!!!
@@beevandyke1959 he won’t do anything to fight this.
Then why on twitter do they say it’s an ideology that should be kept away
"Unsafe" ffs
Trans, don’t have a cervix. But that up for debate of course.
Many trans men have cervixes. Also - pretty much everyone has the cervix that attaches your head to your body (cervix meaning neck). Not all cis women have cervixes - having a cervix or not is not the deciding factor for if you're a woman.
@@andrewdavies5637 That’s a false equivalence; those are considered actual medical issues and not the norm. Meanwhile, unlike biological women without cervixes - which comes with a whole host of its own issues and it’s understandable if people don’t want to date them either, it is healthy and normal for transwomen to not have them and for transmen to have them. Comparing the two cases is a false equivalence.
Besides, you don’t even seem to be trans nor a women. Please stop speaking for those of us who are negatively impacted first hand by all the current toxic ideologies invading our spaces, thanks.
@@punkgrl325 Oh I'm sure women who don't have cervixes will be so happy that you're saying they're undateable (and that it's a valid position to not want to date them). This must be the brave new feminism I keep hearing about.
#lgbwithoutthetq
It's also okay to say that some of them grow up to be heterosexual. We don't need to leave that word out like its taboo...
Erm his role is to advocate for the LGB.
I'd support it
They are transphobic and I'm okay with it
We don't care about the transgenderism cult and their false accusations.
4:25 I don’t see how it would affect rights
Yeah right…
Loco.
@@LZ130GraffZeppelinII I’m not insane for wanting to be called something else. And trying to sever a community that was together for YEARS against their will is awful.
@@KindlyKalen
LGB ✂ T
@@KindlyKalen
LGB > T
@@LZ130GraffZeppelinII that says the quiet part out loud.
Dont understand what any of this has to do with Lets Go Brandon??
Let's Go Brandon
What rights does this man not have under the law? I don't get it.
He's not allowed to own property or vote.
None, he has the same rights as straight people, he can now get married, he can vote, he can own property, he can join any organisation he chooses even be an MP if he wishes.
One can have rights but still need support. I think with the rise of authoritarian woke-ism, gay rights and women's rights are back on the agenda.
It's the right to say being gay is about same-sex attraction and not same gender attraction without being vilified or accused of transphobia by the trans activists.
Where did he say he lacks rights under the law?
Are you the Peoples Front of Judiah ?
😂
2:30 that’s a bad comparison
6:13 was that a photo bomb from one of those pantomime dames?
Well they should be! 😂
Liar liar pants on fire
Remind me, if a girl wants to wear pants (whether on fire or not) then she must really be a boy, and a boy in a dress is a girl?
@@K_F_P LOL whatever
@@thomashickok9277 Come on so smarty PANTS, why is he a liar?
Still waiting or have you heard about the Tavistock scandal and decided to zip it?
Bollocks
The LGB Alliance was started because Stonewall stopped being Anti-Trans.
There you go rewriting history again. The LGB Alliance was started because Stonewall started being homophobic.
When exactly were stonewall anti-trans? Same sex attraction has nothing to do with 'identity'. Stonewall only added the T because it needed money. Gender ideology is harmful to the LGB, therefore the Alliance is much needed.
Finally logic!
Not an anti- trans hate group, but when a trans bisexual woman attends the meeting she read the pamphlet which is literally laced with anti trans rhetoric and is met with physical in person harassment for telling a joke about the bathroom. So it’s funny when Chapelle makes jokes, but not when Jen Ive’s does right?
Gaslight much?
Gb news and lgb alliance in 1939; come out Jews, of course we don't hate you.
You're insane
What are you on about?
What rights do straight people have that gay people don't?
You're missing the point....
It's not about gays not having rights that straights do, it's about trans pushing themselves into everyone else's rights.
Racism is illegal but racism is rife. Get it?
@@shaundudley4576 No it isn't, unless you're talking about racism against white people.
@@musicians_with_gunts So you don't agree with me, but you do, on your own terms. Sounds like trans logic to me.
@@shaundudley4576 Racism is rife? Where? Examples please. Rife?
"We're not an anti-trans group" and then goes on about how they only talk about the "problem" of trans people. I'm still waiting for them to come up with a single thing they're doing for the gay community that isn't anti-trans.
Just existing as a group recognizing our sexual orientation and same sex attraction is doing something! Gtfo!!
@@beevandyke1959 Defining my sexuality in a way that says I'm not gay any more because I find trans men attractive, that's not doing something good. Saying that you can't have LGBT groups in schools because of "predatory male teachers" - basically associating being gay man with being a paedophile - that's really really bad. Saying that bisexual people who are currently in a heterosexual relationship can't go to gay bars or spaces - no, just no.
@@andrewdavies5637 defining men as lesbian and that I, a lesbian am a bigot if I d9nt date men in a dress is not good. It is homophobia
@@beevandyke1959 why would any trans women (who is not a man in a dress) want to date someone that hates them? Just because you don't like trans people doesn't mean that everyone does. I'm sorry you can't see that. You are a bigot because you call a trans women "a man in a dress" not because you don't want to date trans people (even if your attraction is rooted in transphobia). Also - you're continuing to prove my point that the LGB Alliance doesn't care about anything other than excluding trans people. Can you name a single thing not related to being trans that they've ever done?
Maybe living the best life they can, lesbian and gay do not spend their whole life as some political performance. Many TRA seem to think they can tell others how to live our lives. Delia Morris
Can we have that joke again. LGB Alliance isn't Transphobic, HA HA HA HA HA.
Thats about as ridiculous as saying The Earth is flat.
How about lesbian with dick? That even more ridicilous.
Or that a transwoman is a woman?
Or saying a straight man in a dress and too much make-up is a lesbian.
thank you for comment truly not enough people see how out of this world batshit insane this take is.
LGBT+<
hmmmmmmmm but what is this missing
LGB< HAHA I have solved it we are now normal the rest of yea's can go suc eggs.
it's a very "I got mine" attitude like a poor person who's come into a lot of wealth now making it harder for people like them to be wealthy.
Yeah Right, BS
Wanting misgendering made legal which was marked in 2019 by the crown prosecution as the basis of transhate crimes, both verbal and physical is anti-trans. It's also making sexist acts online more predominant and will make it legal if their charity status is not removed in march-may with support of genuine charity Mermaids. You can support all trans people by supporting mermaids court case against the hate group supported by labour party @ www.crowdjustice.com/case/lgba-charity-status/
Mermaids... Oh, the homophobic bunch who force gay children to transition.
Why do you see hate everywhere? It really isn't you know. This used to be called "paranoia". You're like those obsessed religious types from centuries ago who saw demonic possession and satanism and witches everywhere. It's not a sign of a healthy, well-adjusted individual. Do yourself, and everyone else, a favour and use the word "hate" a bit more judiciously. You might be happier for it.
@@douglasfreeman3229 Go take your hate supporting etc elsewhere
@@sleepysmurf Brilliant rebuttal. Take a look at yourself. Listen to what the man in the video is clearly explaining and try to come up with something smarter than "Go take your hate supporting etc elsewhere" You just demonstrated what @Douglas Freeman was arguing.