Idk man, I was in poly situations for many years as a man, & I had no issues being with plenty of girls. I’ve been out of the game for a long time, but some guys make it work
@@sharibyaku I’m sure there’s a small percentage of guys out there laying significant pipe in poly relationships, But all the stories I hear are of guys bitching that they get no pussy and their wives are out every Thursday for brunch with Jodi
I think the problem is less "poly relationships" and more that stupid people in monogamous relationships think it's just a hat you can put on when shit's not working.
Am i the only one that feels like Stav totally changed what he would normally say to this sort of guy because he's actually on the phone with him rather than it being a voicemail ?
More power to people that make it work but more often than not opening relationships leads to someone being heartbroken. I knew a couple that made it work for years until one day it wasn’t working anymore
@@cdmp777 How lucky? Any woman can get “torn up” any time they like. It isn’t like there is effort involved. Just let men know you’re available, and women have an unlimited supply.
dude is white knuckling through this haha. “yeah, no, I totally agree, this is _definitely_ just what our relationship needs heh heh. please just don’t leave me (Stav I need your help ASAP!)”
he never said he didn't get emotional connection from his wife. He just wanted another person he could have an emotional connection with. Many people are poly and happy and that number is rising. Monogamy isn't inherently better or more healthy. In fact it is probably less healthy as you are loading all your emotional burdens onto a singular individual. Just because it's "weird" to you doesn't mean it's bad.
@@seductiveseaweed it sounds like you’re speculating so I’ll do the same, I’d assume it’s worse. If someone needs multiple partners they should probably work on themselves. People get jealous, change feelings, etc. I’d guess the Goldilocks situation where both partners are equally enjoying having multiple partners to a point it outweighs the negatives are small. Relationships are already fragile to begin with adding these extra variables in I don’t think it’s possible that you’d ever have more lasting relationships when compared to monogamy
@@kakimotoK20 you're literally doing a fuck ton of speculation. I'm not pulling it out of my ass. More than 50% of monogamous marriages fail. 1 in 3 women say they have had an abusive partner & 1 in 7 men say the same. While not all of those will be monogamous the majority will be. That's just by the data. Having more than 1 partner isn't unhealthy & indicative of a problem. You immediately thinking it is, is part of growing up in a society that teaches you it's wrong. You are looking at it in a way of greed or lack of emotional support when you fail to consider that people may just have more love to give or different types of love they want to experience. And as long as you are open & clear with your partner I think it in many ways is a more mature and strong relationship than others. Does it always work, of course not. But coming in with the prejudice of thinking it's a failure to have more than one partner or that monogamy is healthier or better for you is just ignorance.
@@kakimotoK20 also wild you say I'm speculating when the dude I'm replying to is quite literally prescribing his feelings to someone else's marriage which you as well are doing. which adds to my point that you are coming from a pov that people have told you that having multiple partners is wrong so you come in with an immediate bias & project on to two individuals lives.
@@kakimotoK20 also idk if it posted earlier but I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass. Monogamy by numbers isn't "better". 1 in 3 women say they have had an abusive partner. 1 in 7 men say the same. more than 50% of monogamous relationships end in divorce. You are thinking of having multiple partners in a greedy way when for many it's about experiencing different kinds of love and wanting that for your partner. I think strong polyamorous couples show a strength & dedication from your partner that you don't get from a monogamous relationship. You are viewing it from a perspective of taking and not of building stronger love & foundations in your life bc you have been taught it's bad.
I have close friends who do this and the problem is not finding the second partner but figuring out how to balance the 3 or 4 or more people in the web of relationships. It can get very messy. Not for me.
That's what they actually refer to as their primary partner, it's so weird. Then the other people they bring in are basically accessories/toys. I've heard a poly person recently describe their relationship with their primary partner as them being their planet and their other partners are satellites, and they literally thought that shit was romantic. Sounds narcissistic as hell.
@@seductiveseaweed Not only are you gross, but completely dishonest as well. I guess you would have to be with your belief system. Women get attention easier than men. For a man to be as successful in dating as an average woman, he must be well above average.
Maintaining a healthy relationship with one person is hard as is, so let’s just toss in a rotating door of emotionally inept people into this simmering pot of resentment. What could go wrong?
I feel bad for genuinely poly people now because it seems like a lot of basically monogamous people think being poly is something they can just try on when things aren't going well. It's just becoming a synonym for "monogamous people who are scared to break up and want a less depressing word for swinging"
Being ‘vanlife’ seems to be working better on tinder than having my own place ever did 😂😅😢 Doesn’t make sense but I don’t pay rent yet still sleep in a bed each night
Every couple I’ve worked with that tried swinging was because their intimacy had collapsed from their relationship having deteriorated. The guys find out that sex ain’t the same as intimacy and the women find a new partner and leave.
This is embarrassing. People should have undercover affairs like they used to or have the balls to end relationships. The guilt and shame the person who would have cheated is now passed onto the innocent partner if they cant get head. Plus imagine youre on a date, and youre up front with the person, "oh yea, i still have a wife, we're in a open relationship" - youre signalling to your date your partner isnt satisfied with you, meaning youre undesirable. Just leave her
Yeah exactly - from the dude's end the only readings are either "his wife isn't satisfied" or "he pressured her into opening the marriage up because he's too much of a coward to leave her". Either way, it's not an attractive look.
none of this is true lmfao. you are insecurely projecting rn. Many people have open relationships and are plenty happy with their relationship. Also being in an open relationship doesn't mean you aren't "satisfied" with your partner. Also the "passed on to another partner if you can't get head" you seemed to miss the part where sex isn't what he was even looking for with other partners. Also plenty of poly people date other poly people. lmao they aren't going to think your main partner isn't satisfied with you. The only embarrassing thing here is you projecting on to other people's relationships.
@@AlexJ1 lmao no. this is such a ignorant dude take. He literally is just looking for another emotional partner. Also if you date other poly people they don't think "your partner isn't satisfied with you." Y'all are talking from a monogamous POV & projecting on to this guy's relationship
@@seductiveseaweed Yeah but that's the thing - there aren't that many poly people, especially in the burbs. Dude will continue to have a hard time. I'm not saying these readings are "correct", I'm just saying that's what most people will think.
One of my friends just ended the poly relationship with his 2nd gf and his reason being it’s emotionally exhausting being accountable for 2 different women’s wants and needs. My lady’s friend also ended an engagement because a 3-way turned to swinging, which turned to an open relationship. My perspective after living through these vicariously is that it may sound fun, but if you value your relationship, it’s not worth it.
If he's on Feeld he is not being rejected because he's married... Meeting interested people on the apps is just harder for guys. His wife was always going to have more prospects than him.
Apps are the worse possible way to meet people. Real life is where it's at. Yes, she will have more prospects, but 99% of them will not be worth her time.
I remember this hot couple liked me on tinder once and they slid in my messages like “hey we both really like you, when can you hang out?” I was like omg, lol I get the appeal but it stops there for me. I’m that asshole who will still match with the person and then ghost… the attention is nice
Serious question: I want to be open minded about the concept of open relationships, but I have never seen an example of it actually working. Every time I’ve seen people try it, it was a disaster. Has anybody seen positive examples of this?
They’re married. They live together. They’re domestic partners. But they each have mistresses. Or are trying to. It’s like how married people have always been. Except open about it.
@@seductiveseaweedyour comment is very glib and cringey. He didn’t suggest anyone was anyone’s property or toy. And the whole “uuuuummmmm I don’t know if you know this” glibness is very tacky. So passive aggressive and rude.
Maybe this is just my young inexperienced brain's perception, but if you're calling your WIFE your "nesting partner," maybe the marriage isn't exactly working.
it was a poor framing of words. but i think it's clear he just wants people to realize he isn't cheating or something. Either way you are looking way too hard into what he is saying.
In what sense are you in a relationship when you're looking for not only sex but emotional connections with other people? What element is making it an actual relationship? Sleeping in the same house?
first off he himself said he wasn't doing it for "fucking around" and for many people it's so they can experience a multitude of experiences & different types of love with others. When you pull yourself out of the way we taught things are "supposed to be" you realize it's just about opening yourself to more love. "Just end it and move on" many poly people are in happy committed relationships.
@@seductiveseaweed I’m sure the censor overlords have deleted most of my comments, but let the record show that I have replied to every single comment you’ve made on this post. Why? Because it is disgusting. Because it would be better if those carrying your ideology didn’t exist.
I dunno ask all married people throughout the history of all time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Mistresses and affairs have always been common. Marriage isn’t just “a boyfriend for life” lol. It’s a legal merging of all assets and debts and property etc. A legally defined family unit. To raise children, to have someone legally by your side at times of illness or death. But people also want to date other people. Take as old as time
no you're just projecting on to them. Majority of monogamous relationships will fail and many are abusive. Just because you can't understand someone else's love doesn't mean they don't love each other.
IDK plenty of happy poly people exist, but they generally start their relationships that way. This is more a problem with monogamous people abusing the concept because they're scared to break up and don't like "swinging" as a term, even though it more accurately describes what they're doing
@@harrybirchall3308 Swinging is usually something you do as a couple though with another couple. This is just having whole separate, private relationships. Seems like something people do when they realize their relationship has no real foundation but they're afraid to break up.
I’m amused that this guy is having a problem with women not wanting to date him while married when the whole point of dating apps is to try to find someone to date they probably don’t realize that you’re married because what normal person would think to check that kind of information? at the end of the day, this is really a non-issue and if this color left just a voicemail, Stavro would rightfully tear in them
companionship and emotional connection. The same things that he said he wants. Also, he didn't say anything about dating anyone super younger than him. As well, it already seems one woman thinks he does have something to offer.
@CC-nn8bs you are viewing it from a taking perspective rather than it is experiencing different kinds of love & giving more love to more people. they seem fine but you seem insecure to comment on someone else's relationship you know nothing about. It takes a lot of security in oneself that I doubt you yourself have.
@CC-nn8bs also their relationship could be stronger than any relationship you have ever have & they decided to do this. you don't know. and honestly people who have strong poly relationships probably do.
@@seductiveseaweed lmfao you sound like you love smell of your own farts. You literally replied on damn near every comment just to tell people they are insecure for clowning this shmuck. You look very secure defending some guy on the internet for hours.
@@seductiveseaweedall your comments are really insulting to people that seem much more stable than you. Sweetie, you come off glib and socially awkward and really insecure.
Maybe chicks aren’t into your weird open relationship, they want a normal dude without a wife, people aren’t commodities and they don’t have to want what you want
@@seductiveseaweed No, he is 100% right. Based on how many times you’ve used it in this comment section, you’ve learned “projecting” recently. Congrats. Now learn that, if everyone is projecting, then the word loses all meaning.
@@FallenSentinel1337 not everyone is projecting. Just people who are insecure men on this topic. Others in this comment section have also been saying the same things I have. If you are going to agree with someone calling a man a beta bc he's more secure in his relationship than you, it will make you look like an insecure loser. Simple as.
@@seductiveseaweedkid. You have to stop. You are the cringiest thing on this comment section. All you’re doing is insulting people and ironically PROJECTING deep insecurities all over everyone else. You wouldn’t be so aggressively defending polyamory if you were secure in its merits. Stop, you’re like a bad cliche.
no it's not. It's just opening yourself to love more people. And it's actually considerate bc you aren't giving all your emotional burdens to one person. It's also about spreading more love than just receiving more love. Just because you are not capable of the capacity for so much love does not mean you should call others greedy.
@@seductiveseaweed lmao it’s a meme take a chill pill, you haven’t seen those tiktoks with the guy going ‘so greedy, who do you think you are king solomon?’ 😂
@samdoesvids1339 lmao I guess not. people are just weird about poly people which I think is clear by some of the comments & I'm not even poly. lol but my apologies if ya were just mememin
How did we go from “relationship isn’t working, let’s split” to “relationship isn’t working, let’s stay together but add more people”
It’s a tough economy lol
@ haha
Rent is expensive 😭
different strokes for different folks
@@dannyphantom1593 😂
Poly relationships are so funny man, for woman it’s basically open season. For men it’s the same as being single
Apparently, worse than single
Idk man, I was in poly situations for many years as a man, & I had no issues being with plenty of girls. I’ve been out of the game for a long time, but some guys make it work
@@sharibyaku I’m sure there’s a small percentage of guys out there laying significant pipe in poly relationships, But all the stories I hear are of guys bitching that they get no pussy and their wives are out every Thursday for brunch with Jodi
I think the problem is less "poly relationships" and more that stupid people in monogamous relationships think it's just a hat you can put on when shit's not working.
Most of the time it's just a woman's excuse to cheat. Unless the guy's bi
dont let your wife get in the way of meeting your girlfriend
The moment she suggests this, you get devious.
The golden rule
Am i the only one that feels like Stav totally changed what he would normally say to this sort of guy because he's actually on the phone with him rather than it being a voicemail ?
There’s definitely a desire to be more understanding when the person is actually there
100% he did
He would have roasted this dude if it was a voicemail
I think so yeah. But it also helps that the guy was able to elaborate when they had questions
Probably but I don’t think that’s weird at all.
This stuff becoming normal might be my “get off my lawn” moment.
Why do you give a shit with other people are doing
It’s not bad 😅 well I’m biased on the other side haha
More power to people that make it work but more often than not opening relationships leads to someone being heartbroken. I knew a couple that made it work for years until one day it wasn’t working anymore
Don't ever let anyone psyop you into thinking this degenerate shit is "normal".
@@Weewoo12seems like that’s the case with monogamous relationships as well, it works until it doesn’t
This guy is COOKED lmao
@@J_Chuk is cooked a gen z thing wtf
i mean sounds like dude is living a good life.
@@Hungrydawgsrunfasteryes.
That’s wild
Bro is cooked
He’s gonna crash out
You’re not him
It’s “ “ for me
That is crazy work
@@seductiveseaweed
How many push-ups can you do? Have you had your testosterone checked?
5 seconds ago was crazy
Glazing
Diddy has entered the chat
Bros girl getting torn up 😂😂
Her shit is gettin merc'd
Lucky gal
@@cdmp777
How lucky? Any woman can get “torn up” any time they like. It isn’t like there is effort involved. Just let men know you’re available, and women have an unlimited supply.
dude is white knuckling through this haha. “yeah, no, I totally agree, this is _definitely_ just what our relationship needs heh heh. please just don’t leave me (Stav I need your help ASAP!)”
Last time I was this early, I caught my wife with her boyfriend.
Fitting for the video
People are really complicating divorce these days.
Lmfao this sounds like they’re peacefully letting each other search for a replacement
I bet she suggested it because she liked some guy...
Actually, I find it’s usually the husband that insists on trying it and ends up pretty unhappy and divorced.
@@FreeEduardGrigoriannThe man gambled and lost.
You really don't get how mature open relationships work huh?
@@Zelincyou really think that all open relationships are mature 😂
If you're just trying to hook up, no need to disclose that you have an open marriage. If you want a long term f buddy, then yeah...
he's not trying to hook up tho. He said specifically that he wants more of an emotional partner
@@seductiveseaweedwhich is wild cause anyone that wants an emotional partner does not want that partner to be married.
If you can't get an emotional connection from your own wife then the marriage is over, this dudes life is so effing weird to me.
he never said he didn't get emotional connection from his wife. He just wanted another person he could have an emotional connection with. Many people are poly and happy and that number is rising. Monogamy isn't inherently better or more healthy. In fact it is probably less healthy as you are loading all your emotional burdens onto a singular individual. Just because it's "weird" to you doesn't mean it's bad.
@@seductiveseaweed it sounds like you’re speculating so I’ll do the same, I’d assume it’s worse. If someone needs multiple partners they should probably work on themselves. People get jealous, change feelings, etc. I’d guess the Goldilocks situation where both partners are equally enjoying having multiple partners to a point it outweighs the negatives are small. Relationships are already fragile to begin with adding these extra variables in I don’t think it’s possible that you’d ever have more lasting relationships when compared to monogamy
@@kakimotoK20 you're literally doing a fuck ton of speculation. I'm not pulling it out of my ass. More than 50% of monogamous marriages fail. 1 in 3 women say they have had an abusive partner & 1 in 7 men say the same. While not all of those will be monogamous the majority will be. That's just by the data. Having more than 1 partner isn't unhealthy & indicative of a problem. You immediately thinking it is, is part of growing up in a society that teaches you it's wrong. You are looking at it in a way of greed or lack of emotional support when you fail to consider that people may just have more love to give or different types of love they want to experience. And as long as you are open & clear with your partner I think it in many ways is a more mature and strong relationship than others. Does it always work, of course not. But coming in with the prejudice of thinking it's a failure to have more than one partner or that monogamy is healthier or better for you is just ignorance.
@@kakimotoK20 also wild you say I'm speculating when the dude I'm replying to is quite literally prescribing his feelings to someone else's marriage which you as well are doing. which adds to my point that you are coming from a pov that people have told you that having multiple partners is wrong so you come in with an immediate bias & project on to two individuals lives.
@@kakimotoK20 also idk if it posted earlier but I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass. Monogamy by numbers isn't "better". 1 in 3 women say they have had an abusive partner. 1 in 7 men say the same. more than 50% of monogamous relationships end in divorce. You are thinking of having multiple partners in a greedy way when for many it's about experiencing different kinds of love and wanting that for your partner. I think strong polyamorous couples show a strength & dedication from your partner that you don't get from a monogamous relationship. You are viewing it from a perspective of taking and not of building stronger love & foundations in your life bc you have been taught it's bad.
“My nesting partner”. Wtf this shit is so pathetic.
I hate being approached by poly people or couples on dating apps; they need their own app for that.
they do, but also they are just people looking to date. Everyone is looking for something different that's why you're allowed to swipe left
Agreed. I made it clear in my profile I was not into in Poly relationships for myself and I still get messages.
Totally, it's so annoying. Like you're already with someone, why are you on here 😂
I mean, if it's on their profile, just read before you swipe. Don’t match with them in the first place.
@@seductiveseaweed
Did the green hair come with low-T?
Glad to see Alex back on the podcast
I have close friends who do this and the problem is not finding the second partner but figuring out how to balance the 3 or 4 or more people in the web of relationships. It can get very messy. Not for me.
Jealousy always happened and someone always ends up hurting someone’s feelings. Remember people we are still filthy monkeys
I can't imagine having nothing better to do
i also don’t understand how people have the time. i barely have time for one girlfriend 🤣 where these people gettin the time for multiple???
@@Alexis-wx1lf that's the thing, they don't have the time... That's why it always ends horribly.
@@Alexis-wx1lf Because the "relationships" in polyamory are usually incredibly shallow. It's just like having FWBs.
As a man opening up your marriage is literally the worst decision you could make
It's the worst decision either way.
It’s gonna be a bad idea 95% of the time
except for all the people who are happy doing it
@@seductiveseaweed*pretend to be happy doing it. A lot of mentally broken ppl try to say it's working when it isn't
@@seductiveseaweed
All 11 of them… for now…
Bro, tell me who else loves these thumbnails I absolutely love them thank you Eldes or whoever is doing them
Stavros has truly mastered the art of putting his fans back into a more humble place without pissing them off or losing them as a fan.
It's called empathy
This guy is talking about his “nesting partner” like he’s a bird wtf 😂
That's what they actually refer to as their primary partner, it's so weird. Then the other people they bring in are basically accessories/toys. I've heard a poly person recently describe their relationship with their primary partner as them being their planet and their other partners are satellites, and they literally thought that shit was romantic. Sounds narcissistic as hell.
Polyamory doesn't work on the guy's end unless the dude is very attractive and well-off
incorrect.
@@seductiveseaweed yeah, he should have just left it at "doesn't work".
@@NoughtSure i mean it does for plenty of people. And if you are comparing it to monogamy that has pretty bad numbers show it "doesn't work"
@@seductiveseaweed
Not only are you gross, but completely dishonest as well. I guess you would have to be with your belief system.
Women get attention easier than men. For a man to be as successful in dating as an average woman, he must be well above average.
0:50 this astute observation went right over this poor fool’s head 😂😂😂😂
Just go to a bar and be tall and in shape. Works everytime
How does one "be tall"?
@ whole milk probably
@@notmyname8865you gotta go into the settings and alter your build
@@notmyname8865 hgh and whole milk
Maintaining a healthy relationship with one person is hard as is, so let’s just toss in a rotating door of emotionally inept people into this simmering pot of resentment. What could go wrong?
I feel bad for genuinely poly people now because it seems like a lot of basically monogamous people think being poly is something they can just try on when things aren't going well. It's just becoming a synonym for "monogamous people who are scared to break up and want a less depressing word for swinging"
Being ‘vanlife’ seems to be working better on tinder than having my own place ever did 😂😅😢
Doesn’t make sense but I don’t pay rent yet still sleep in a bed each night
My vanlife buddy said the same thing
The tone of his voice at the end of the call says it all. “Fuck, this was a mistake even though, in theory it sounded GREAT!!!” 😂😂😂
Damn... she's bi, they're open, and he's not getting any benefits from that. Sad.
Every couple I’ve worked with that tried swinging was because their intimacy had collapsed from their relationship having deteriorated. The guys find out that sex ain’t the same as intimacy and the women find a new partner and leave.
Did you not hear the part where sex isn't a priority for him?
This sounds like a classic case of selection bias. If you "worked with them", something is wrong in their relationship.
@@seductiveseaweed
Did you not hear the part where he didn’t ask you?
This is embarrassing. People should have undercover affairs like they used to or have the balls to end relationships. The guilt and shame the person who would have cheated is now passed onto the innocent partner if they cant get head. Plus imagine youre on a date, and youre up front with the person, "oh yea, i still have a wife, we're in a open relationship" - youre signalling to your date your partner isnt satisfied with you, meaning youre undesirable. Just leave her
Yeah exactly - from the dude's end the only readings are either "his wife isn't satisfied" or "he pressured her into opening the marriage up because he's too much of a coward to leave her".
Either way, it's not an attractive look.
Maybe life isn't so black and white and some people are interested naturally in polyamory
none of this is true lmfao. you are insecurely projecting rn. Many people have open relationships and are plenty happy with their relationship. Also being in an open relationship doesn't mean you aren't "satisfied" with your partner. Also the "passed on to another partner if you can't get head" you seemed to miss the part where sex isn't what he was even looking for with other partners. Also plenty of poly people date other poly people. lmao they aren't going to think your main partner isn't satisfied with you. The only embarrassing thing here is you projecting on to other people's relationships.
@@AlexJ1 lmao no. this is such a ignorant dude take. He literally is just looking for another emotional partner. Also if you date other poly people they don't think "your partner isn't satisfied with you." Y'all are talking from a monogamous POV & projecting on to this guy's relationship
@@seductiveseaweed Yeah but that's the thing - there aren't that many poly people, especially in the burbs. Dude will continue to have a hard time. I'm not saying these readings are "correct", I'm just saying that's what most people will think.
Alex seems to get the best calls when he’s on 😂😂😂😂
Stav: “I have a feeling she’s not having any trouble finding partners”
Caller: “yeah, cause she’s bi”
…I don’t think that’s what he meant haha
One of my friends just ended the poly relationship with his 2nd gf and his reason being it’s emotionally exhausting being accountable for 2 different women’s wants and needs. My lady’s friend also ended an engagement because a 3-way turned to swinging, which turned to an open relationship. My perspective after living through these vicariously is that it may sound fun, but if you value your relationship, it’s not worth it.
If it was her idea, my advice to that guy would be divorce her and then get on the apps
Right it's a clear sign or mental instability but so is the fact he's entertaining it
Absolutely. If it was her idea then she may have already cheated
4:20 alex: "look at my gay, savage ass" lmfao
I'm a poly man. Being with a woman and being in a poly relationship has made dating so much fun. It's never been easier
If he's on Feeld he is not being rejected because he's married... Meeting interested people on the apps is just harder for guys. His wife was always going to have more prospects than him.
Apps are the worse possible way to meet people. Real life is where it's at.
Yes, she will have more prospects, but 99% of them will not be worth her time.
This comment section is restoring my faith in humanity.
He's making the mistake of being honest. Just go out wearing a wedding ring.
This sounds super healthy and im sure this will last :)
I remember this hot couple liked me on tinder once and they slid in my messages like “hey we both really like you, when can you hang out?” I was like omg, lol I get the appeal but it stops there for me. I’m that asshole who will still match with the person and then ghost… the attention is nice
Serious question: I want to be open minded about the concept of open relationships, but I have never seen an example of it actually working. Every time I’ve seen people try it, it was a disaster. Has anybody seen positive examples of this?
“we’re dating separately” so how is that your wife?
uhhh...idk if you know this you make the own rules of your relationship. Being a wife isn't just being a man's property of sex toy
@ nowhere did i imply that. but if you’re dating entirely separately then you’re not “together” in the usual sense
@@svnfshmusic
Seaweed head is all over the comment section selling this idea. Obviously a c u c k and degen.
They’re married. They live together. They’re domestic partners. But they each have mistresses. Or are trying to.
It’s like how married people have always been. Except open about it.
@@seductiveseaweedyour comment is very glib and cringey. He didn’t suggest anyone was anyone’s property or toy.
And the whole “uuuuummmmm I don’t know if you know this” glibness is very tacky.
So passive aggressive and rude.
As a dry spell inhabitant, this really hurts me
Monogamous people are monogamous, it’s not fair to them to be with a polyamorous person. Meet other poly people!
That's what I do. works out better for all involved.
Maybe this is just my young inexperienced brain's perception, but if you're calling your WIFE your "nesting partner," maybe the marriage isn't exactly working.
It sounds to me like he should try to meet a woman who is also in an open relationship.
I would feel weird and be angry to find out afterward that I slept with a married man, even if it is an open relationship
That's why people who do poly and open for real tell any potential partners up front.
"how do i convert" so ..how do i manipulate women into thinking they want this.
it was a poor framing of words. but i think it's clear he just wants people to realize he isn't cheating or something. Either way you are looking way too hard into what he is saying.
4:21 stav fucking kills me haha
I don’t think stav could button his shirt up if he wanted to
Ain’t no way this dude just recommended sleeping with women and not telling them you’re married. That is SO scummy
gay people aren't so uptight. they know not to expect anything from a hookup. and they frequently sleep with married men, so...
In what sense are you in a relationship when you're looking for not only sex but emotional connections with other people? What element is making it an actual relationship? Sleeping in the same house?
Patrice o'neal would have had a blast just trolling this caller
By getting a divorce and never speaking to her ever again
why? they are happy how they are. just bc you are too insecure to understand it doesn't mean they can't
This is INSANE
Take Chris Tucker’s advice
A lot of bitter dudes in the comments hate to see non traditional relationships work for some couples. 😭
Sounds way too complicated.
Open relationships seriously only benefit the woman long term, unless you live in a big city of course, then everyone’s into the non monog stuff
What is the desire to be married but fuck around?? Just end it and move on. Wtf. Do they compare notes afterwards?
first off he himself said he wasn't doing it for "fucking around" and for many people it's so they can experience a multitude of experiences & different types of love with others. When you pull yourself out of the way we taught things are "supposed to be" you realize it's just about opening yourself to more love. "Just end it and move on" many poly people are in happy committed relationships.
@@seductiveseaweed
I’m sure the censor overlords have deleted most of my comments, but let the record show that I have replied to every single comment you’ve made on this post.
Why? Because it is disgusting. Because it would be better if those carrying your ideology didn’t exist.
I dunno ask all married people throughout the history of all time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mistresses and affairs have always been common.
Marriage isn’t just “a boyfriend for life” lol.
It’s a legal merging of all assets and debts and property etc.
A legally defined family unit. To raise children, to have someone legally by your side at times of illness or death.
But people also want to date other people.
Take as old as time
Couples who agree to be non-monogamous aren't in love or were never in love and should just break up.
no you're just projecting on to them. Majority of monogamous relationships will fail and many are abusive. Just because you can't understand someone else's love doesn't mean they don't love each other.
So certain of yourself for a person so very wrong
@@dylantroyerdt No, I'm definitely right. Argue with a wall.
IDK plenty of happy poly people exist, but they generally start their relationships that way. This is more a problem with monogamous people abusing the concept because they're scared to break up and don't like "swinging" as a term, even though it more accurately describes what they're doing
@@harrybirchall3308 Swinging is usually something you do as a couple though with another couple. This is just having whole separate, private relationships. Seems like something people do when they realize their relationship has no real foundation but they're afraid to break up.
Trying to keep it ethical 😂
Nesting partner is wild
I’m amused that this guy is having a problem with women not wanting to date him while married when the whole point of dating apps is to try to find someone to date they probably don’t realize that you’re married because what normal person would think to check that kind of information?
at the end of the day, this is really a non-issue and if this color left just a voicemail, Stavro would rightfully tear in them
I laugh whenever polyamory and ethics are brought up in the same sentence
I can't imagine what he thinks he has to offer a young woman?
companionship and emotional connection. The same things that he said he wants. Also, he didn't say anything about dating anyone super younger than him. As well, it already seems one woman thinks he does have something to offer.
@CC-nn8bs you are viewing it from a taking perspective rather than it is experiencing different kinds of love & giving more love to more people. they seem fine but you seem insecure to comment on someone else's relationship you know nothing about. It takes a lot of security in oneself that I doubt you yourself have.
@CC-nn8bs also their relationship could be stronger than any relationship you have ever have & they decided to do this. you don't know. and honestly people who have strong poly relationships probably do.
@@seductiveseaweed lmfao you sound like you love smell of your own farts. You literally replied on damn near every comment just to tell people they are insecure for clowning this shmuck. You look very secure defending some guy on the internet for hours.
@@seductiveseaweedall your comments are really insulting to people that seem much more stable than you.
Sweetie, you come off glib and socially awkward and really insecure.
I’m gay
Maybe chicks aren’t into your weird open relationship, they want a normal dude without a wife, people aren’t commodities and they don’t have to want what you want
Dude just get a divorce bro. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Its fucking weird, dude. Its not them, it's you
no this is a really weird thing for you to say actually.
Most people find ENM weird and don't want to participate. You do you, but you can't act like the majority are up for it
@@seductiveseaweed
No. He was 100% right and you’re the weird one. Obviously. Mathematically demonstrably the weird one.
has he tried having a job or like maybe a hobby/interest?
Gay guy reminds me of Eddie Murphy
Damn dude.....if you need emotional support from other people maybe you need a new wife and your current wife should be your gf best of luck brother
This stuff is soo bizarre, they act like it’s normal.
Weird af . Too much cackling
Reddit moment
The beta, closetedness of this guy’s voice is uncanny. His wife is unsatisfied with him bc he is unsatisfied with women.
you are projecting
@@seductiveseaweed
No, he is 100% right. Based on how many times you’ve used it in this comment section, you’ve learned “projecting” recently. Congrats.
Now learn that, if everyone is projecting, then the word loses all meaning.
@@harrybirchall3308
The beta is obviously less than.
@@FallenSentinel1337 not everyone is projecting. Just people who are insecure men on this topic. Others in this comment section have also been saying the same things I have. If you are going to agree with someone calling a man a beta bc he's more secure in his relationship than you, it will make you look like an insecure loser. Simple as.
@@seductiveseaweedkid. You have to stop.
You are the cringiest thing on this comment section.
All you’re doing is insulting people and ironically PROJECTING deep insecurities all over everyone else.
You wouldn’t be so aggressively defending polyamory if you were secure in its merits.
Stop, you’re like a bad cliche.
Such a dumb thing! Polyamorous is just an excuse.
Losers finding losers! Don’t get married in the 1st place
Just admit the "marriage" is over.
the absolute greed, disgraceful
no it's not. It's just opening yourself to love more people. And it's actually considerate bc you aren't giving all your emotional burdens to one person. It's also about spreading more love than just receiving more love. Just because you are not capable of the capacity for so much love does not mean you should call others greedy.
@@seductiveseaweed lmao it’s a meme take a chill pill, you haven’t seen those tiktoks with the guy going ‘so greedy, who do you think you are king solomon?’ 😂
@samdoesvids1339 lmao I guess not. people are just weird about poly people which I think is clear by some of the comments & I'm not even poly. lol but my apologies if ya were just mememin
@@seductiveseaweed peace, love & free palestine ✌️
Try FEELD
The older I get, the more slippery slopes that people threw out about not wanting gay marriage legalized are coming true.
I got news for you bud: Pathetic guys were getting cucked LOOOOOONG BEFORE the gays were given the freedom to slowly learn to hate their spouses.
ya gay people not getting pushed into lockers makes ur wife more likely to cheat 😂
As in?
It’s a slippery gay slope?
...How is this related to gay marriage? 😂
i run into the same thing all the time on the apps. my woman tells me not to tell them, but i feel guilty if i don't. lolol
How did we go from “relationship isn’t working, let’s split” to “relationship isn’t working, let’s stay together but add more people”