BMW makes fantastic motorcycles and I am riding an RT for 20 years. But someone should assist Germans when it comes to choosing colors for their bikes.
@@dynasty6932 For me it's right out of the 'King has no Clothes' story, someone said they look great 15 years ago, now everyone seems to love them, yuk, why not just dip all our stuff in tar and say: ''wow, isn't that badass' lol 🤪😂 Yamaha dirt bike finally came around with Blue Rims on their bikes, looks awesome, otherwise for me Chrome and Polished aluminum will never go out of style.
Loved the review. I own a 2019 R1250RT, have only about 8,000 miles on it but I absolutely love it! For me, the RT offers the best of comfort, nimble sporty ride & handling, reasonable weight, and technology. Obviously selecting a bike is a very personal decision, we all have our own tastes and preferences! I like the new technology on the 2021 RT but my 2019 suits me just fine and I've barely got her broken in so I won't be trading anytime soon.
Just got mine .. nice 350 mile in one day ride the other day, very impressed. Tec worked fine, great bike for motorway and even managed some great lean angles on the back roads. Not missing the jarring ride on my GS!
I know the feeling! I got back into biking after a 35 year absence. So I got a 2005 Ducati MTS 620 to ease myself back into modern road conditions and traffic. Big mistake! So, I'm looking at the R1250 RT which ticks all my personal boxes. I am concerned though about BMW reliability and servicing costs. Or should I play it safe and stick with Japanese models?
The R1200/50RS and the R1200/50RT are the most underrated bikes out there. I rode a 2018 R1200RS in a European Alpine tour for 7 days and the bike was unbelievable. The RT, being more comfortable (touring vs sport) is equally a machine to be ridden and appreciated. Exceptional engineering and rider comfort for both models in the 1200 and 1250 derivatives.
I understand why some say this is a beast of a motorcycle. The huge front faring puts a lot off. I love it! I love all the technology and gadgetry. And, if I could afford one I would get one fully equipped. Thanks for the review, love your podcast to. Listen at work each week. Very much a fan.
The only bike that is really tempting me to go and test ride from the BMWmotorad family is an R1250R cause I think it is a proper sleeper. Same engine like the GS/RT but the lightest bike. A proper roadster!
@@motobob I must agree with you on that the R nineT with the USD forks and clean lines looks very nice. And I'm wondering have U hears any more rumours about the baby R18 cause apparently someone leeked that BMWmotorad is thinking about making a R12. A R nineT engine in a cruiser frame. Icrecin they would detuned the engine for less power but more torque but it would ba a fun alternative to a Indian scout or a HD 883 or a 1200. I it all depends on how well the custom/cruiser market will react to the R18 and R18 classic.
I'm considering the features of 3 different bikes and plan to purchase one of them. One I'm considering is a 1250rt. Your vid is very informative and helps me lean toward the 1250. Thank u.
Best heavyweight tourer ever. Really surprised to see the old Nokia buildings owned by BMW now. I expect the HD buildings will be repurposed soon too 😀
@@sesquashtwo Of course it depends where you live both country and location within it. The west coast of America seems to have as many Harley dealers as Starbucks. But when I lived in England, you could comfortably count the number of HD dealers in the British Isles on just two hands. In England, I always lived never more than 25 miles from a BMW dealer. Now I live in the states, the same can be said for HD dealers. I have both within a 30-minute ride currently, so each works well. I hope HD sell a lot of the new PanAm, that should make a great ADV-Tourer.
@@IanTed It is a engine made by man. I have owned 8 BMW Boxers one with 128,000 miles and never opened. As a motorcycle dealer we sold many used ones through the years with no issues. If you check dealerships of all makes have service departments full on bikes.
Really really like my 2020 GSA but this is a game changer, I just couldn’t come at the old tech dash on the previous model, the ride was awesome but yeah . . . screeeeeeeen.
Great video I’ve got one being delivered on Tuesday come from a GSA 1250 same engine but just fits me so much better can’t wait too do some miles on it booked 4 tours this year already 🎉🎉
Thanks for the video. This will be my first bike in 7-8 years after a family sacrifice of my old one. I tried the GSA and loved it, as did the Chief Finance Officer (my wife) who has sanctioned the purchase. I wasn’t interested in the old RT, because the tech was behind the GSA, but now I’m swayed by all the shiny, new buttons and tech of the new RT. My main worry is the state of UK roads and when we rode the GSA, it soaked them all up. Fully loaded, there’s very little price difference between them and the RT comes with panniers as standard, the LE with central locking too. I can’t wait to test ride the RT.
@Derek Wilson er No, if that’s your bag, it’s ok. You can wear your rainbow with pride and no-one, well in the West, will dare say anything to you. Marriage is a partnership and requires respect. Obviously, you have a non-traditional marriage which is why you think I might wear a pink party dress. We’re not all like you, only 0.006% of the population are, so remember, you’re special, and don’t let anyone in a heterosexual relationship tell you you’re not.
Consdered the RT but just bought the 1250GS instead. Is the RT really that much better on motorways than the GS? I do a lot of city commuting so, all in all, I think it was the right choice for me and I don't really like the look of the RT. So far, I'm very impressed with the GS, coming from the Tiger 900 GT Pro. It"s a joy to ride and soooo stable all the time. The buying experience at BMW Paris was underwhelming to say the least for a machine of that price. And just one key!! But loving the bike. Take care and ride safe
Glad I watch this video I’m really excited tomorrow I pick up a one will be delivered for me a 2021RT so I’ll I’m really anxious had to compare what I experience and watch this video shows but I am quite sure that I’m not gonna be disappointed that that was a great video that I watched and thank you for all the update on that
I'm with you. I took a look at the price for a replacement screen and, sadly, the new RT is off my list. Too bad, as I really wanted to get one as a retirement gift to myself in three years.
@@jeanc819 In three years time you should know how reliable the TFT screen is. Treat yourself I bought myself a R1200rt when I retired and have had no problems with it in 3 years.
@@rows10 You make a very good point. I've been riding my '08 RT since new, and would dearly love to upgrade to another RT. Over time, I've discovered that replacement parts and repairs do not come cheap, especially electronics. That being said, unless this new RT series meets or exceeds the quality found in other manufacturers, I'll probably take a pass. Sadly, expensive repairs have become increasingly difficult to justify to my better half. But, I'll never get rid of my 86 R80 Airhead...
I've not ridden the new RT yet, but as an owner of a 2020 K1600GT, I think I'd beg to differ with your 'Ultimate Motorway' title. I don't have the nifty TFT screen, but I do have an additional 350cc and 4 cylinders! A good trade on any day. Here in Salt Lake City Utah with 80 mph speed limits, we regularly ride to over 10,000 ft (3000 meters for the rest of the world) and as the saying goes, there really is no replacement for displacement. My channel deals with my K1600s (Yeah, I have two. Follow the channel to find out how THAT happened) and my 03 M3 6 spd convertible and a host of other likely suspects. Great review, clear explanation of the ACC and new baubles! You know I just subscribed, and I'm going to be binge watching your channel. Good thing it's Friday!
Great review! Thanks! But I think I will wait until the BMW K1600 comes out with the adaoptive cruise control and huge naviation display. That K1600 will have a reverse gear what is important to me.
Another superb, thorough review. BMW really does tick every box for the modern world. My concern is regarding seat, as always. I'm keen to at least sit on one to get a feel and see how I manage.
Takes me 300 miles or a tank full before I start to feel uncomfortable on the stock seat. Handy that is the same time as needing more fuel. If your going to take a test ride ask if you can have it for 4 hours. There are plenty of after market seats, Sargeants being one of the best.
Just a thought - That TFT screen should have been made to be pushed down, out of sight when not in use (similar to some car screens that disappear into the dash). Even if the screen had to be a fraction smaller, it would have been a bonus. As a few have commented, that TFT is a theft magnet.
I've been away from bikes for 20 years now; but thinking about getting back into the saddle. This would be my no 1. choice, as most of my bikes were BMWs in the past.
No doubt this is the distance tourer of choice. I had a 2013 / 90 Jahre edition for 3 years, doing a lot of motorway mileage to visit a relative in hospital 240 mile / 386 km round journeys. I found i was flattening the very expensive tyres quickly. Also, even though it was probably the best tourer, I still found it tiring, I was in my early my sixties, so I decided to get a car for motorway journeys and different type of motorcycles for two up light touring. I agree these are great bikes, but I can’t imagine going up and down motorways / highways is much fun on any bike. Motorways are best for cars. A & B roads best for bikes. I miss that 2013 air cooled boxer engine though. Tigers and Bonnevilles for me now.
Agree that a car is always better on the motorway, but if you're touring there will always be those days when you just need to get the miles in between the good roads.
@@motobob - yes, I might start hiring bikes at further destinations. That way get to experience different bikes too. I know hiring bikes is expensive but so is changing bikes. I might hire a R1250RT in the South of France one day...
The screen's vacuum effect actually improves comfort by supporting the upper body. The ducting would deflect nuisance airflow created by the mechanisms gaps, rubber bellows would be more effective.
Good mile / kilometer muncher I suppose..I prefer the 1250RS personally. Too much "stuff". Adaptive cruise is very cool, but is it needed? We have a lot to pay attention to as a motorcyclist and following distance is close to number one, so I can see a benefit if distracted momentarily.
I can go 20k, but not 24/25 as these bikes are selling for currently..plus...I'm still considering a GS.....might be able to poach one when the model years change...but, this adaptive cruise control kind of gives me the creeps. I like the ability of it to keep you off a certain distance to what's in front of you, but beyond that, it's ingrained in me, and maybe it is with other riders that I have to control the bike, faster, slower, left or right. I don't know. If I'm on the fence about it, I'm leaning toward the side not using it more than the side using it. At least for now.
@@motobob Go for it, best sports tourer on the market and seriously underrated . Test rode one when they were first released, lighter and more nimble and a bit of a weapon in the right hands. Way out of my price league at the moment so I,m stuck with my old 95' RS. Try one.... think you will be suitably impressed.
Why do reviewers insist on guessing when they don't know how something works?? That's a fools errand. Just say you don't know and be done, we're all quite capable of making our own guesses.
I wished I could afford this when I bought my Ducati Sports Tourer, except for the price!! This new model is lovely but I’ll have to wait for a used (or should I say pre-loved) one in 202*?
I truly hate how most motorcycle manufacturers no longer have mufflers on each side of the rear tire, which has kept me from buying another one because they look like something's missing. Oh sure there are after-market kits, but why spend the extra money ... Makes no sense.
Nice vid Rob, a niche bike and maybe hard to justify as an 'only bike' unless all you did was huge motorway mile commutes? Would love the big screen on my F series. BMW are struggling though with the software connectivity when pairing phones, helmets and satnavs on the older screens. I think they're getting it sorted but the phone app is a little flaky unless your bikes firmware is fully up to date. Hopefully the tech on these '21 bikes is all sorted. Whilst I still love the Triumph brand, the BMW's are really making some good bikes at the moment and I'm happy to be part of that family. You really need a BMW in your garage sometime soon.....an R9T to replace the Street Twin!
I agree with your sentiments Bob but also find it a rather dull motorbike. Very competent but lacks the fun factor. I prefer the r1250rs. Almost as capable a tourer but in a far more sporty package and with more character. The RT is very grown up but unnecessarily huge at the front end. At last they’ve sorted a standard screen so now the first change to a bmw doesn’t have to be replacing the screen. Hand protection from wind blast is excellent as are mirrors and storage space. The ultimate tourer but it’d be the RS I’d want to take over the Stelvio Pass.
With all the technology from bmw. Im really surprised they haven't come up with The windscreen is the satnav as well!!!!! You'll still be able to see though as normal but it will highlight the map where you want to go. So you'll never need to take your eyes off the road I bet this is going to be the future. You heard it here first dan waller
Hm I had the 2020 RT for a few days, while waiting forty 1250 GSA. It's fun to ride, but for the taller ones amongst us, it's just cramped. There is not enough legroom because of the fairing on the tank. I never have back pain riding a GSA, but I was so glad to give this machine back to the dealer and ride a GSA again. I owned a K1600 in the past for riding to work and that one was way bigger in the seating area.
I am not so tall, 5' 9'' but I do have long arms and ride a 09 1200rt and keep pushing my self back toward the rear of my seat to get a better ride and my back doesn't bother me nearly as much, I really had those old seats but if you have a custom one done they all add two inches to the height I have read and I don't need that at all. I tore up the under neath of my seat so my feet could be flat on the ground but the seat is just not long enough for my arms, never had this trouble with seats in the 70's.
Looks like an awesome machine,and great if you have the financial back up when the warranty runs out. If all you do is motorway bash great but wheres the fun.
Don't worry about the weight of the Goldwing. I'm only 5'6" and weigh just over 10 stone. I have no trouble with my DCT at all. Whatever you are doing with it it never feels particularly heavy. And BMW reliability isn't that great.
I'm due to upgrade next summer, so it will be evolution for me. But I do hope that we see a better range of colours, because none of the current crop inspires me.
When describing features, why not use vendor lingo? So if a viewer wants to learn more they have a proper term to search for and get good results. BMW Motorrad storage locking is called "Central Locking". Damn handy btw!
Can you turn the radar off if the cruise is on? We have a car with that feature, but we can't turn the damned thing off if the cruise is on. It does not like rain storms and the has a tendency to disable the cruise completely in some cases. Annoying as Hell.
Just bought the 2020 R1250 RT, still learning it. My bike needs an adapter cable to charge the phone unfortunately. Just learned how to adjust the DSA suspension setting, having to get used to the seating ergonomics as it slides the rider forward also.
I ride a 2009 K1300GT and have looked at the 1250RT as my next bike. The K1600 is just too big. Thanks for the review. I just wish the damned thing wasn't so expensive.
I currently have the B, and busy with a trade in on this. I test ride it, and the weight and balance of the RT is amazing. Top speed is also more than the B. I just can't believe how easy this bike is to ride at speeds at 10kph...
I was really not one at all, had ridden all the Japanese, British, Italian and American, wanted back in after 35 years not riding a the RT I bought was all I could find I could afford for what i wanted, had three real bad car accidents, none my fault, others ran red lights, back is really messed up but my 1200 doesn't vibrate nearly as much as other bikes do, I get a nice type of massage out of it and don't think about the back when out just the ride, it's very quiet, don't miss the noise although beemers have not always been quiet, they used to be much louder and riders complained.
It would be lovely to have a bike like that....for 5% of the time. Maybe if I can have several bikes when I win the lottery. I'd be interested to know if adaptive cruise control can cope with emergency braking situations. I don't like the idea. I hope that the economy gage isn't like my brothers old 5 series. It only ever came out of the red when coasting downhill!
You can see why older riders account for a lot of sales of touring bikes, because it makes total sense if you're retired and have time to put loads of miles in seeing the country. That's the dream for me!
Adaptive Cruise Control looks amazing but there should also be a rear-facing radar which warns you of bogeys on your six and gives you a time-to-impact. Come on, BMW. Kinda obvious.
Don't you think that BMW have missed a trick with the new dash? Car displays have gone for the ability to configure the gauges as you want them, often using analogue style displays for speed and RPM, this new dash seems to be in the BMW "we know best" what you want to see format. Compare it to the digital display in a BMS 5 series.
This RT's twin felt pretty smooth on the motorway, but I must say that the Goldwing's flat 6 is the ultimate in buttery smoothness. Yet to have a go on a K1600 but if they update it soon then I'll make sure I try it.
Did you ask them about TFT theft ? Heard its happening a lot, curious to know if they've made some changes to make it harder to take from the bike's dash.
@Porco Bianco it happened to a friend in London recently. i think there are anti-theft brackets now coming to the aftermarket, but no I didn't get chance to ask BMW about it.
@Porco Bianco A bike cover possibly. Yes boring, but... As most thefts are impulsive - 'not seen - not tempted'. Q - Will the theft of only the screen be covered on the insurance policy as TFT screens are a 'new' feature on bikes?
If they have not, they should make that screen so it can be lifted and taken with you as Alpine did with their tape and radio screens so very long ago, in the late 70's I believe, had one, thats the only way off hand i can see to stop it quick, Alpine stereo's are still equipped with that, others followed. Some had it so the whole stereo came out, the screen was better.
Just bought one a few days ago..best bike I’ve ever road..i love it!
BMW makes fantastic motorcycles and I am riding an RT for 20 years. But someone should assist Germans when it comes to choosing colors for their bikes.
Exctacly as you said at least the white metallic on the rt 1250 2021 is awesome but the charged it 2000 Euro
I agree absolutely. I like the dark blue/black of my current RT, but none of the colours on the new lineup appeal to me.
Ease anything but dark black dark gray dark blue
Glacier green was the best RT color
I’ll keep my grom for highway bashing thanks
Thanks a bunch Bob, I am picking up my 2021 option 719...this week. Can not wait and I am 73...
Finally someone puts out non-blacked out rims again, looks great.
I believe this is the Elegance package. Looks great to me!
@@motobob Yep, fantastic looking..
Right! and I hate black rims
@@dynasty6932 For me it's right
out of the 'King has no Clothes'
story, someone said they look
great 15 years ago, now everyone
seems to love them, yuk, why not
just dip all our stuff in tar and say:
''wow, isn't that badass' lol 🤪😂
Yamaha dirt bike finally came
around with Blue Rims on their bikes,
looks awesome, otherwise for me
Chrome and Polished aluminum will
never go out of style.
Loved the review. I own a 2019 R1250RT, have only about 8,000 miles on it but I absolutely love it! For me, the RT offers the best of comfort, nimble sporty ride & handling, reasonable weight, and technology. Obviously selecting a bike is a very personal decision, we all have our own tastes and preferences! I like the new technology on the 2021 RT but my 2019 suits me just fine and I've barely got her broken in so I won't be trading anytime soon.
Just got mine .. nice 350 mile in one day ride the other day, very impressed. Tec worked fine, great bike for motorway and even managed some great lean angles on the back roads. Not missing the jarring ride on my GS!
how the navigation/gps? I've heard some bad things about it not being reliable, disconnecting from the phone etc.
GPS works fine with latest App and Firmware upgrade (owner)
Haven’t ridden in years. Turning 58 this year. Really on the fence about getting back into the sport. These videos are killing me.
Go for it. I'm 68. Haven't ridden in 15 years because of health issues. This will be my next bike.
I know the feeling! I got back into biking after a 35 year absence. So I got a 2005 Ducati MTS 620 to ease myself back into modern road conditions and traffic. Big mistake! So, I'm looking at the R1250 RT which ticks all my personal boxes. I am concerned though about BMW reliability and servicing costs. Or should I play it safe and stick with Japanese models?
@@peterboczan2116 just watched a review on the 2022 Honda ATA touring with the DCT. This is the bike I’d get over the BMW.
@@artagain8977 Thankyou, I'll bear that in mind.
The R1200/50RS and the R1200/50RT are the most underrated bikes out there. I rode a 2018 R1200RS in a European Alpine tour for 7 days and the bike was unbelievable. The RT, being more comfortable (touring vs sport) is equally a machine to be ridden and appreciated. Exceptional engineering and rider comfort for both models in the 1200 and 1250 derivatives.
The RS is my next bike.
I understand why some say this is a beast of a motorcycle. The huge front faring puts a lot off. I love it! I love all the technology and gadgetry. And, if I could afford one I would get one fully equipped. Thanks for the review, love your podcast to. Listen at work each week. Very much a fan.
"...that leads you to concentrate on what's happening around you."
or you know, you just fall asleep...
Bob ain't kiddin around . You can play "vroom vroom" on your Harley but if you're serious about munching miles on the highway, this is it boys.
The only bike that is really tempting me to go and test ride from the BMWmotorad family is an R1250R cause I think it is a proper sleeper. Same engine like the GS/RT but the lightest bike. A proper roadster!
True but I think I'd have to go RnineT if I was looking at the R... not as quick but the same silhouette with better looks.
@@motobob I must agree with you on that the R nineT with the USD forks and clean lines looks very nice. And I'm wondering have U hears any more rumours about the baby R18 cause apparently someone leeked that BMWmotorad is thinking about making a R12. A R nineT engine in a cruiser frame. Icrecin they would detuned the engine for less power but more torque but it would ba a fun alternative to a Indian scout or a HD 883 or a 1200. I it all depends on how well the custom/cruiser market will react to the R18 and R18 classic.
It's good to see the face behind all these awesome reviews. You actually exist, lol
I'm considering the features of 3 different bikes and plan to purchase one of them. One I'm considering is a 1250rt. Your vid is very informative and helps me lean toward the 1250. Thank u.
Best heavyweight tourer ever. Really surprised to see the old Nokia buildings owned by BMW now. I expect the HD buildings will be repurposed soon too 😀
@@sesquashtwo Of course it depends where you live both country and location within it. The west coast of America seems to have as many Harley dealers as Starbucks. But when I lived in England, you could comfortably count the number of HD dealers in the British Isles on just two hands. In England, I always lived never more than 25 miles from a BMW dealer. Now I live in the states, the same can be said for HD dealers. I have both within a 30-minute ride currently, so each works well. I hope HD sell a lot of the new PanAm, that should make a great ADV-Tourer.
Not sure why comments are calling this heavy, 615 lbs curb, really?
I see that as light an nimble for a touring bike, or even touring/sport.
Beautiful bike, great review!
Still the best motorcycle engine ever produced.
The flat 6 Honda Goldwing engine for me Stephen
@@SBKPete Both great!
That’s why I had a whole cylinder replaced on my 2019 1250, they have their issues🥲
@@IanTed It is a engine made by man. I have owned 8 BMW Boxers one with 128,000 miles and never opened. As a motorcycle dealer we sold many used ones through the years with no issues. If you check dealerships of all makes have service departments full on bikes.
I have to disagree. The inline 4 cylinder on my BMW K1200GT doesn't get as hot and vibrates MUCH less than the boxer engines.
Upgrading my '06 R1200RT for a '22 R1250RT for all your stated reasons. Staying with a winner.
Really really like my 2020 GSA but this is a game changer, I just couldn’t come at the old tech dash on the previous model, the ride was awesome but yeah . . . screeeeeeeen.
Great video I’ve got one being delivered on Tuesday come from a GSA 1250 same engine but just fits me so much better can’t wait too do some miles on it booked 4 tours this year already 🎉🎉
I believe BMW have a bestseller in the making here!
After about 30 bike's now I ride the r1150rt, from 2002 , and it's great , perfect winterbike! Great review sir! Okay it is ugly but I dont care.
My dad has an R1100RT and loves it too!
I have a 2004 r1150rt. They are things of beauty
Adaptive Cruise Control is so nice on the freeway. I wish my Gold Wing had it.
Thanks for the video. This will be my first bike in 7-8 years after a family sacrifice of my old one. I tried the GSA and loved it, as did the Chief Finance Officer (my wife) who has sanctioned the purchase. I wasn’t interested in the old RT, because the tech was behind the GSA, but now I’m swayed by all the shiny, new buttons and tech of the new RT. My main worry is the state of UK roads and when we rode the GSA, it soaked them all up. Fully loaded, there’s very little price difference between them and the RT comes with panniers as standard, the LE with central locking too. I can’t wait to test ride the RT.
@Derek Wilson er No, if that’s your bag, it’s ok. You can wear your rainbow with pride and no-one, well in the West, will dare say anything to you. Marriage is a partnership and requires respect. Obviously, you have a non-traditional marriage which is why you think I might wear a pink party dress. We’re not all like you, only 0.006% of the population are, so remember, you’re special, and don’t let anyone in a heterosexual relationship tell you you’re not.
@Derek Wilson Tell us about your marriage. Sounds like you have a lot of good info.
Consdered the RT but just bought the 1250GS instead. Is the RT really that much better on motorways than the GS? I do a lot of city commuting so, all in all, I think it was the right choice for me and I don't really like the look of the RT. So far, I'm very impressed with the GS, coming from the Tiger 900 GT Pro. It"s a joy to ride and soooo stable all the time. The buying experience at BMW Paris was underwhelming to say the least for a machine of that price. And just one key!! But loving the bike. Take care and ride safe
Great video man! Love to see fellow Moto vlogger content!
Glad I watch this video I’m really excited tomorrow I pick up a one will be delivered for me a 2021RT so I’ll I’m really anxious had to compare what I experience and watch this video shows but I am quite sure that I’m not gonna be disappointed that that was a great video that I watched and thank you for all the update on that
I enjoyed the review! Many thanks!
Thanks BBH!
Those computer dashes scare me...especially once the warranty runs out. Besides that, the RT is a phenomenal bikes.
I'm with you. I took a look at the price for a replacement screen and, sadly, the new RT is off my list. Too bad, as I really wanted to get one as a retirement gift to myself in three years.
@@jeanc819 In three years time you should know how reliable the TFT screen is. Treat yourself I bought myself a R1200rt when I retired and have had no problems with it in 3 years.
@@rows10 You make a very good point. I've been riding my '08 RT since new, and would dearly love to upgrade to another RT. Over time, I've discovered that replacement parts and repairs do not come cheap, especially electronics. That being said, unless this new RT series meets or exceeds the quality found in other manufacturers, I'll probably take a pass. Sadly, expensive repairs have become increasingly difficult to justify to my better half. But, I'll never get rid of my 86 R80 Airhead...
Yep designed to unplug and completely replace. That’s why it’s not actually integrated into the bike
I have a 1980 R100S. Almost no plastic. Coils. Points and condenser. It’s not a bus like new bikes are.
Ultimate tourer.
Another big plus for me; This has a clutch!
I love the new Gold Wing, but doubt I'll ever warm up to Automatic DCT.
I sold my DCT goldwing
I felt something missing
I am thinking of buying a yamaha star venture TC
Do you recommend it?
Better title -> “MotoBoob reviews small car”
Who you callin MotoBoob?!
If I was spending all my time on the motorway, I'd drive a car. Oh! Wait, it is.
I've not ridden the new RT yet, but as an owner of a 2020 K1600GT, I think I'd beg to differ with your 'Ultimate Motorway' title. I don't have the nifty TFT screen, but I do have an additional 350cc and 4 cylinders! A good trade on any day. Here in Salt Lake City Utah with 80 mph speed limits, we regularly ride to over 10,000 ft (3000 meters for the rest of the world) and as the saying goes, there really is no replacement for displacement. My channel deals with my K1600s (Yeah, I have two. Follow the channel to find out how THAT happened) and my 03 M3 6 spd convertible and a host of other likely suspects. Great review, clear explanation of the ACC and new baubles! You know I just subscribed, and I'm going to be binge watching your channel. Good thing it's Friday!
Great review! Thanks! But I think I will wait until the BMW K1600 comes out with the adaoptive cruise control and huge naviation display. That K1600 will have a reverse gear what is important to me.
It can only be a matter of time - looks a bit dated now compared to the RT.
BMW are adding the self-park and doors next year. I'd wait for the 2022 model.
A seat belt and ashtray would be nice as options
Another superb, thorough review. BMW really does tick every box for the modern world. My concern is regarding seat, as always. I'm keen to at least sit on one to get a feel and see how I manage.
Takes me 300 miles or a tank full before I start to feel uncomfortable on the stock seat. Handy that is the same time as needing more fuel. If your going to take a test ride ask if you can have it for 4 hours. There are plenty of after market seats, Sargeants being one of the best.
@@rows10 I should have been more exact....seat height. I'm not tall @ 165cm.
@@ron_grimes good advice. Thanks 👍🏼
Just a thought - That TFT screen should have been made to be pushed down, out of sight when not in use (similar to some car screens that disappear into the dash). Even if the screen had to be a fraction smaller, it would have been a bonus. As a few have commented, that TFT is a theft magnet.
Looks very handsome, the bike too!
Yes - I love how the front section is so bulbous and out of proportion.
Wow.... That's simply beautiful! End it keeps also something classic into it....
Fabulous intuitive review as always m8!
Darn. That is one beautiful bike. Nice review. 👌🏼👌🏼
I've been away from bikes for 20 years now; but thinking about getting back into the saddle. This would be my no 1. choice, as most of my bikes were BMWs in the past.
No doubt this is the distance tourer of choice. I had a 2013 / 90 Jahre edition for 3 years, doing a lot of motorway mileage to visit a relative in hospital 240 mile / 386 km round journeys. I found i was flattening the very expensive tyres quickly. Also, even though it was probably the best tourer, I still found it tiring, I was in my early my sixties, so I decided to get a car for motorway journeys and different type of motorcycles for two up light touring. I agree these are great bikes, but I can’t imagine going up and down motorways / highways is much fun on any bike. Motorways are best for cars. A & B roads best for bikes. I miss that 2013 air cooled boxer engine though. Tigers and Bonnevilles for me now.
Agree that a car is always better on the motorway, but if you're touring there will always be those days when you just need to get the miles in between the good roads.
@@motobob - yes, I might start hiring bikes at further destinations. That way get to experience different bikes too. I know hiring bikes is expensive but so is changing bikes. I might hire a R1250RT in the South of France one day...
I bought the same bike from an ex-BMW salesman in the South West
if your phone doesnt have wireless charging, it has a usb plug in in the fairing pocket too
The screen's vacuum effect actually improves comfort by supporting the upper body. The ducting would deflect nuisance airflow created by the mechanisms gaps, rubber bellows would be more effective.
Great review! Really like the large TFT, brilliant!
Thanks Pete!
No mention of the incredible new headlights?? Check out Long Way Home for review of these.
This the best touring bikes 2021
Good mile / kilometer muncher I suppose..I prefer the 1250RS personally.
Too much "stuff". Adaptive cruise is very cool, but is it needed? We have a lot to pay attention to as a motorcyclist and following distance is close to number one, so I can see a benefit if distracted momentarily.
I currently ride a Tiger 1200 XRT and am considering this as its replacement. I cant wait to get to my local dealer to organise a test ride.
Soon the software will have a upgrade for fake sound trough the speaker (like some cars). Maybe the sound of an old Ducati when you in the mood.
I can go 20k, but not 24/25 as these bikes are selling for currently..plus...I'm still considering a GS.....might be able to poach one when the model years change...but, this adaptive cruise control kind of gives me the creeps. I like the ability of it to keep you off a certain distance to what's in front of you, but beyond that, it's ingrained in me, and maybe it is with other riders that I have to control the bike, faster, slower, left or right. I don't know. If I'm on the fence about it, I'm leaning toward the side not using it more than the side using it. At least for now.
Just recently bought an r1250rs. Would love to see a video on that.
They're brilliant bikes. We've done a review of one on Our channel 👍
Honestly not a bike I'd considered before now but I'll try to check one out.
@@motobob Go for it, best sports tourer on the market and seriously underrated . Test rode one when they were first released, lighter and more nimble and a bit of a weapon in the right hands. Way out of my price league at the moment so I,m stuck with my old 95' RS. Try one.... think you will be suitably impressed.
Very good and lovely commenting ! Good voice ! I owe a Goldwing SC 79 DCT and will test-ride the latest RT the day after tomorrow. Curious !!
Why do reviewers insist on guessing when they don't know how something works?? That's a fools errand. Just say you don't know and be done, we're all quite capable of making our own guesses.
I wished I could afford this when I bought my Ducati Sports Tourer, except for the price!! This new model is lovely but I’ll have to wait for a used (or should I say pre-loved) one in 202*?
Yeah especially with the extras they'd fitted to the press bike, it adds up quickly!
I own a K1600B GA and Ive heard people complaining about the lack of ACC. ID rather the phone compartment like the RT!
Love that bike I so want one great vid quality too.
Hopefully they will put that tft dash on k1600 lineup. It's already outdated.
I'm surprised they haven't done it yet.
I truly hate how most motorcycle manufacturers no longer have mufflers on each side of the rear tire, which has kept me from buying another one because they look like something's missing. Oh sure there are after-market kits, but why spend the extra money ... Makes no sense.
Nice vid Rob, a niche bike and maybe hard to justify as an 'only bike' unless all you did was huge motorway mile commutes? Would love the big screen on my F series. BMW are struggling though with the software connectivity when pairing phones, helmets and satnavs on the older screens. I think they're getting it sorted but the phone app is a little flaky unless your bikes firmware is fully up to date. Hopefully the tech on these '21 bikes is all sorted. Whilst I still love the Triumph brand, the BMW's are really making some good bikes at the moment and I'm happy to be part of that family. You really need a BMW in your garage sometime soon.....an R9T to replace the Street Twin!
If i were to get a new BMW motorcycle, i think this is what i woukd end up wih.
I agree with your sentiments Bob but also find it a rather dull motorbike. Very competent but lacks the fun factor. I prefer the r1250rs. Almost as capable a tourer but in a far more sporty package and with more character. The RT is very grown up but unnecessarily huge at the front end. At last they’ve sorted a standard screen so now the first change to a bmw doesn’t have to be replacing the screen. Hand protection from wind blast is excellent as are mirrors and storage space. The ultimate tourer but it’d be the RS I’d want to take over the Stelvio Pass.
With all the technology from bmw. Im really surprised they haven't come up with
The windscreen is the satnav as well!!!!!
You'll still be able to see though as normal but it will highlight the map where you want to go. So you'll never need to take your eyes off the road
I bet this is going to be the future. You heard it here first dan waller
I had a 1978 RT and always wanted another…
Thats a great bike, 👍
Nice review 👌
Thanks RL!
How 'bout a rear-view camera ? 😃
Great review 😊👍
Thanks RZ!
Hm I had the 2020 RT for a few days, while waiting forty 1250 GSA. It's fun to ride, but for the taller ones amongst us, it's just cramped. There is not enough legroom because of the fairing on the tank. I never have back pain riding a GSA, but I was so glad to give this machine back to the dealer and ride a GSA again. I owned a K1600 in the past for riding to work and that one was way bigger in the seating area.
I am not so tall, 5' 9'' but I do have long arms and ride a 09 1200rt and keep pushing my self back toward the rear of my seat to get a better ride and my back doesn't bother me nearly as much, I really had those old seats but if you have a custom one done they all add two inches to the height I have read and I don't need that at all. I tore up the under neath of my seat so my feet could be flat on the ground but the seat is just not long enough for my arms, never had this trouble with seats in the 70's.
Good looking bike tech amazing
Looks like an awesome machine,and great if you have the financial back up when the warranty runs out.
If all you do is motorway bash great but wheres the fun.
Excellent review. I am convinced that i have to buy this one instead of Honda Gold wing which is heavier.
Don't worry about the weight of the Goldwing. I'm only 5'6" and weigh just over 10 stone. I have no trouble with my DCT at all. Whatever you are doing with it it never feels particularly heavy. And BMW reliability isn't that great.
Awesome machine and perfect vídeo!!!
I'm due to upgrade next summer, so it will be evolution for me. But I do hope that we see a better range of colours, because none of the current crop inspires me.
When describing features, why not use vendor lingo? So if a viewer wants to learn more they have a proper term to search for and get good results. BMW Motorrad storage locking is called "Central Locking". Damn handy btw!
Can you turn the radar off if the cruise is on? We have a car with that feature, but we can't turn the damned thing off if the cruise is on. It does not like rain storms and the has a tendency to disable the cruise completely in some cases. Annoying as Hell.
I believe you can switch it off, yes.
Just bought the 2020 R1250 RT, still learning it. My bike needs an adapter cable to charge the phone unfortunately. Just learned how to adjust the DSA suspension setting, having to get used to the seating ergonomics as it slides the rider forward also.
Thx Kate
Rear facing radar yes front facing not so much
Agree that Ducati has the upper hand there. Doesn't seem like long before other manufacturers will catch on though.
I ride a 2009 K1300GT and have looked at the 1250RT as my next bike. The K1600 is just too big. Thanks for the review. I just wish the damned thing wasn't so expensive.
Great bike for sure
Adaptive cruise control; is this when motorcycling jumped the shark?
I'd definitely recommend trying it out
Smooth looking bike but I might want to go with the K 1600 B.
I currently have the B, and busy with a trade in on this. I test ride it, and the weight and balance of the RT is amazing. Top speed is also more than the B. I just can't believe how easy this bike is to ride at speeds at 10kph...
Not a BMW fan, but this bike has the lot.
I was really not one at all, had ridden all the Japanese, British, Italian and American, wanted back in after 35 years not riding a the RT I bought was all I could find I could afford for what i wanted, had three real bad car accidents, none my fault, others ran red lights, back is really messed up but my 1200 doesn't vibrate nearly as much as other bikes do, I get a nice type of massage out of it and don't think about the back when out just the ride, it's very quiet, don't miss the noise although beemers have not always been quiet, they used to be much louder and riders complained.
I hope Triumph are looking at how BMW are producing TFT dashboards.
Excellent job!!
It would be lovely to have a bike like that....for 5% of the time. Maybe if I can have several bikes when I win the lottery. I'd be interested to know if adaptive cruise control can cope with emergency braking situations. I don't like the idea. I hope that the economy gage isn't like my brothers old 5 series. It only ever came out of the red when coasting downhill!
You can see why older riders account for a lot of sales of touring bikes, because it makes total sense if you're retired and have time to put loads of miles in seeing the country. That's the dream for me!
Adaptive Cruise Control looks amazing but there should also be a rear-facing radar which warns you of bogeys on your six and gives you a time-to-impact. Come on, BMW. Kinda obvious.
Great review
Great review!
THE BIG BUTTONS 1 2 3 4 !
Man what doesn't this bike have? maybe a directional EMP cannon(I wish) to clear traffic. Beautiful machine, another feather to BMW.
Don't you think that BMW have missed a trick with the new dash? Car displays have gone for the ability to configure the gauges as you want them, often using analogue style displays for speed and RPM, this new dash seems to be in the BMW "we know best" what you want to see format. Compare it to the digital display in a BMS 5 series.
Awesome bike!! Would you prefer a four or six cylinder engine when riding long distance...??
This RT's twin felt pretty smooth on the motorway, but I must say that the Goldwing's flat 6 is the ultimate in buttery smoothness. Yet to have a go on a K1600 but if they update it soon then I'll make sure I try it.
I hope that ocean liner of a bike has iceberg detection.
What a beautiful bike
Did you ask them about TFT theft ? Heard its happening a lot, curious to know if they've made some changes to make it harder to take from the bike's dash.
@Porco Bianco it happened to a friend in London recently. i think there are anti-theft brackets now coming to the aftermarket, but no I didn't get chance to ask BMW about it.
@Porco Bianco A bike cover possibly. Yes boring, but... As most thefts are impulsive - 'not seen - not tempted'. Q - Will the theft of only the screen be covered on the insurance policy as TFT screens are a 'new' feature on bikes?
Usual London they steal everything definitely not a friendly city from that perspective.. I got my r1200Gs stolen in front of my office...
@@ADCL369 That's terrible. Seen videos of these people stealing bikes in broad daylight. London has sadly become a knife ridden burglary hot spot.
If they have not, they should make that screen so it can be lifted and taken with you as Alpine did with their tape and radio screens so very long ago, in the late 70's I believe, had one, thats the only way off hand i can see to stop it quick, Alpine stereo's are still equipped with that, others followed. Some had it so the whole stereo came out, the screen was better.
KTM 1290 Adventure has adaptive cruise control too...