@@couchcamperTMnot all. Immediately I stumbled into inconvenience with scale highlights in it. For me MIDI redactor is the main part of the daw, and good highlight of scales is also important due to my eyesight problems. So unfortunately I was forced to roll back to fl studio. Which was kinda disappointment, coz everything else about reaper was pretty impressive. P. S. Also default reaper is not a beautiful thing, and for many people it's important.
I think removing the artist version is a big mistake. I have used it for a long time because I have never needed anything else. It has always been an incentive to buy hardware and get the latest version. Now I will use my version 6 until I can't anymore and then we'll see, the competition is tough in this sector.
Yes, same here. You don't need more than Artist to do professional work. that's probably it, they wanna force people to pay more for something they don't need. I'm out and done with Studio One. Cubase Aritst will cost 5 to 10 times less to update with each new release compared to the stupid new Studio One update plan.
@@laCunaRock Yes I do have many customers. More than I can handle by myself. What important functionality does the pro version have which is essential to delivering professional work other than Dolby Atmos which is useless to 99% of the people listening to music on headphones? Artist has unrestricted midi, audio editing as well as mixing capabilities. What is it missing to deliver pro work? if someone can't deliver pro work with what it has to offer then the problem is not with Artist.
Avoid subscription models at all costs. They are the pest. Companies love them (I get it.), but it`s like you have to pay to be ripped off. No, thanks.
Thanks for the last two uploads, they're incredibly relevant at this point in time. Things definitely seem to be changing and it's good to have a familiar voice you can trust talking about it.
@@mikelytou some people like the subscription model though. Presonus is at least offering subscription, hybrid subscription, and perpetual. I think if they went 100% subscription there would be a boycott from people just abandoning it.
There is no subscription. It’s a rental. If it were a subscription you would get to keep what you got during the subscription. The rental ends, you have nothing. Never ever ever rent your DAW.
After nothing but crashed computers ,daw after daw problem . I went back to a 16 track recorder and 2 Yamaha 8 track cassette recorders and a reel to reel. Tape is the best
I bought a crossgrade to Studio One Pro 6 on September 9 (because I owned a Reason 12 license), so because I bought it after August 1 2024 I get a free upgrade to 7 on October 9.
As long as Studio One doesn't get rid of perpetual licenses I'm cool with the changes. 200 usd rather than 400 for the full product is great, it's an amazing workstation. My only concern is now it costs 150$ more bucks for the 4-5 major updates the year after your purchased updates run out. Not sure what they're thinking there outside of maybe recouping their losses with the price reduction, but if nobody pays for the extra major updates they'll have to reduce the price or fix this weird update model they're doing. Nice vid looking forward to your review of studio one 7
You get the current version of daw and 1 year update to it, the license refers to the time you receive updates and bug fixes not to daw, the daw is yours because you paid for it. After 1 year, you can always update, when you think it's worth the money, 1 year, 2 years whenever you want. It is the cleanest and most logical way of licensing both for the producer and for the users, you can update it when it is on sale with a discount why not.
As I understand it, you get to keep the version you had on the 364th day of a yearly subscription. Saw this when looking into the new quantum interfaces.
Yes. If you go with a perpetual license or an annual subscription or an upgrade then you get a year of updates. You can keep the Version that you have after a year.
I think Presonus would do well to engage the bottom shelf market by developing a $20-$40 version of Studio One that came with a perpetual license. Maybe call it Studio One "Alpha" or something like that. Even if it had just their stock plug-ins only (plus maybe a handful of virtual instruments), and unlimited tracks, they'd be off to the races.
The Quantum HD interfaces doesn't only give you 12 months of Studio One+, you will also get a perpetual license. The deal with Quantum ES is really bad. 6 months of free use and after that you have nothing. Pay up for 12 more months and get a perpetual license and the price for the ES is almost as high as the HD. Doesn't make sense.
The Digital Audio Workstation industry is changing. DAW's like Cubase will never go to the subscription route. It'll always will be a purchasable DAW by price point.
I’m a long time Cubase user (since SX3 days to Cubase 13), and I’m running a trial for Logic Pro right now. I’m doing this in case Steinberg go to subscriptions only In the future. I’m going to keep both as my Daws (Cubase pro and Logic Pro)
@@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF I’m actually the opposite, I started learning Cubase just in case Logic Pro goes to subscription on the Mac version like on iPad. I’m also using Bitwig, even though they have a fee, you don’t have to upgrade if you don’t want to and keep your current version, plus it seems like every time I open it there’s a new update(I guess Cubase is the same way iirc).
Cubase is super out of date tho. That program feels very ancient. And they will prob go sub only at some point anyway. It’s inevitable for all companies on a long enough timeline. Sub only is the future…
So I literally just bought a studio 26 audio interface. Options for incuded software are 6 months of studio one plus monthly or studio one artist perpetual licence. Apparently the monthly subscription does not leave you with a perpetual version after it lapses so will it revert to artist or just nothing. I am pretty confused right now. Probably only need artist but if its ending then what ?? If i click artist now will it work after 7 comes out?
If you register it and get Artist then you will still be able to use that version of Artist. You can test out the 6 months of pro if you want. It will be Version 7 pretty soon so you’ll get to see what that’s like but if you decide to revert back to your Artist license then that will be version 6. You can go with any other DAW though. So check out something else if you want.
@@AudioTechTV Thanks for the reply, I know I am free to try other systems but part of the reason I chose the presonus interface was the included software. From what I can tell its either test out pro + for 6 months or Artist perpetual. Not both so if you get pro+ then stop it won`t revert to Artist. They need to clarify this stuff.
@ollie9397 maybe they’ve changed it now. They used to instantly put the artist license, and any other bundled software, into your account once you registered your device. You’re saying that now you have to make a choice before they put the license into your account. It doesn’t make sense as most audio interfaces will give you the limited DAW no matter what but also give you the option to try out a demo of the bigger daw. If you’ve already registered the device go into your account and into your products section to see if Artist is listed in there. If it’s listed in there then that means you’ll have it no matter what.
@@AudioTechTV Hi. After reading this I just logged in to my Presonus to check. In the "your products" section it lists the hardware interface and loads of other plugins and things, Replika,MPX reverb, plugin alliance etc. However, there is no mention of any version of Studio one in this section. When I click on the interface it says "you are eligable to redeem software for your device" with a view offers button. When I click the button it shows a big advert for the 6 months of Pro+ monthly with a small "or redeem a perpetual licence of Studio one artist". This has lead to my dilema, I have issued a support ticket asking for clarification.
@@AudioTechTV Yes, I understood and thanks for the clarification. I assumed audio software houses would have paid attention to the Waves debacle. Subs are not for me.
I was a Studio one user until they brought in the subscription scheme. (Insert long story). I switched to Ableton Suite and ever looked back. I write rock, indie and country tunes. Money wasn’t the issue, I just wanted to own and be able to leave at any time with what I paid for. Not rent and go empty handed having spent a wad of cash. Yes, I realise the benefits of subscription but it’s not for me. I tried it for a short while with Reason.
@@brucemillar studio one never stopped offering perpetual licenses. They just added other ways to get studio one like through subscription and the hybrid subscription option.
@@gsmith11172 sample chopping already exists in Impact XT…it’s basically on the same level as Ableton’s sample chopping. And the stem separation is also allegedly in version 7.
Why consider any other DAW when Logic for $199 includes more instruments, plugins and samples/loops than anybody else? StudioOne, Cubase, Ableton and ProTools all cost much, much more…😮
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Learn Reaper. $60. One of the best DAWs I've ever used. I left Studio One for Reaper.
Wow, I'm thinking of switching to studio one. The overall workflow and interface looks close to cakewalk
I wonder why people still take the second best for a lot more money. reaper can do it all.
@@couchcamperTMnot all. Immediately I stumbled into inconvenience with scale highlights in it. For me MIDI redactor is the main part of the daw, and good highlight of scales is also important due to my eyesight problems.
So unfortunately I was forced to roll back to fl studio.
Which was kinda disappointment, coz everything else about reaper was pretty impressive.
P. S. Also default reaper is not a beautiful thing, and for many people it's important.
@@oldensad5541 with my bad eyes it's enough to use it in 720 instead of HD. I think I can consider me lucky...
@@oldensad5541You already have FL Studio so you can slowly tweak REAPER to your liking bit by bit until you're satisfied
I think removing the artist version is a big mistake. I have used it for a long time because I have never needed anything else. It has always been an incentive to buy hardware and get the latest version. Now I will use my version 6 until I can't anymore and then we'll see, the competition is tough in this sector.
Yes, same here. You don't need more than Artist to do professional work. that's probably it, they wanna force people to pay more for something they don't need. I'm out and done with Studio One. Cubase Aritst will cost 5 to 10 times less to update with each new release compared to the stupid new Studio One update plan.
@@laCunaRock Yes I do have many customers. More than I can handle by myself. What important functionality does the pro version have which is essential to delivering professional work other than Dolby Atmos which is useless to 99% of the people listening to music on headphones? Artist has unrestricted midi, audio editing as well as mixing capabilities. What is it missing to deliver pro work? if someone can't deliver pro work with what it has to offer then the problem is not with Artist.
Avoid subscription models at all costs. They are the pest. Companies love them (I get it.), but it`s like you have to pay to be ripped off. No, thanks.
long live reaper
Still glad that I have made the jump from Cakewalk to Reaper. The learning curve is pretty steep but in time i will be able to customize it for me.
Thanks for the last two uploads, they're incredibly relevant at this point in time. Things definitely seem to be changing and it's good to have a familiar voice you can trust talking about it.
We, the people, need to boycott every single product by all companies that go to a subscription model.
@@mikelytou some people like the subscription model though. Presonus is at least offering subscription, hybrid subscription, and perpetual.
I think if they went 100% subscription there would be a boycott from people just abandoning it.
@@mikelytou bro that’s just silly
There is no subscription. It’s a rental. If it were a subscription you would get to keep what you got during the subscription. The rental ends, you have nothing. Never ever ever rent your DAW.
@@TeslaOsiris something tells me you weren't in the debate club....
@@mikelytou you’re in a comments section on TH-cam, my guy. Welcome to the internet…it must be your first day here.
After nothing but crashed computers ,daw after daw problem . I went back to a 16 track recorder and 2 Yamaha 8 track cassette recorders and a reel to reel. Tape is the best
Tape is the worst, for me. Very old now, lived thru the era....don't miss it at all.
@@georgegeranios2918 I still have protools, tape blows it away on drums and acoustic guitar
I bought a crossgrade to Studio One Pro 6 on September 9 (because I owned a Reason 12 license), so because I bought it after August 1 2024 I get a free upgrade to 7 on October 9.
Nice
As long as Studio One doesn't get rid of perpetual licenses I'm cool with the changes. 200 usd rather than 400 for the full product is great, it's an amazing workstation. My only concern is now it costs 150$ more bucks for the 4-5 major updates the year after your purchased updates run out. Not sure what they're thinking there outside of maybe recouping their losses with the price reduction, but if nobody pays for the extra major updates they'll have to reduce the price or fix this weird update model they're doing. Nice vid looking forward to your review of studio one 7
I’d rather just skip a year or two… pay $150 every three years or so. Lol
Same difference, more or less.
You get the current version of daw and 1 year update to it, the license refers to the time you receive updates and bug fixes not to daw, the daw is yours because you paid for it. After 1 year, you can always update, when you think it's worth the money, 1 year, 2 years whenever you want. It is the cleanest and most logical way of licensing both for the producer and for the users, you can update it when it is on sale with a discount why not.
I’m not sure what this is in reference to but that’s pretty much the same business model as most DAWs.
This makes you (us) appreciate UAD LUNA a lot more
I wonder how long Luna will be free for. It’s such a great program and continues to get better.
@@AudioTechTV Agreed
As I understand it, you get to keep the version you had on the 364th day of a yearly subscription.
Saw this when looking into the new quantum interfaces.
Yes. If you go with a perpetual license or an annual subscription or an upgrade then you get a year of updates. You can keep the Version that you have after a year.
I remember when Ableton didn't have side chain and you had to dip the volume manually on your bass, but I got round it.
Moved from PreSonus to LUNA
And this is why I jumped ship and moved over to Reaper. I have no regrets saying adios to Studio One
Hello, what do you think about Mixbus 10? It's currently on sale for only $30
Very informative and educational.
What about people that buy Presonus hardware and Artist is bundled with it? For example Presonus ATOM
I think Presonus would do well to engage the bottom shelf market by developing a $20-$40 version of Studio One that came with a perpetual license. Maybe call it Studio One "Alpha" or something like that. Even if it had just their stock plug-ins only (plus maybe a handful of virtual instruments), and unlimited tracks, they'd be off to the races.
You just described GarageBand...there is no reason to compete with that market.
@@TeslaOsiris Exactly my point. There is no straight competitor to GarageBand for PCs.
@@gordontubbs …and there is a reason for that there are no competitors in that space. There is nothing to be gained there.
The Quantum HD interfaces doesn't only give you 12 months of Studio One+, you will also get a perpetual license. The deal with Quantum ES is really bad. 6 months of free use and after that you have nothing. Pay up for 12 more months and get a perpetual license and the price for the ES is almost as high as the HD. Doesn't make sense.
One correction... the new PreSonus Quantum HD interfaces include a perpetual license for Studio One Pro.
So...the cakewalk by bandlab is still king of free daws, and pro tools intro with plugin buddy free vst is queen
Cakewalk isn’t free anymore.
Waveform free is the only real free daw out there atm. It’s fully loaded.
I start studio one with bying sound card and i liked it, and year later i uptatet it pro. Before i used cubase
The Digital Audio Workstation industry is changing.
DAW's like Cubase will never go to the subscription route.
It'll always will be a purchasable DAW by price point.
Ableton is the same way too. I doubt they will ever go the route of Presonus/Bitwig.
I’m a long time Cubase user (since SX3 days to Cubase 13), and I’m running a trial for Logic Pro right now. I’m doing this in case Steinberg go to subscriptions only In the future. I’m going to keep both as my Daws (Cubase pro and Logic Pro)
@@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF I’m actually the opposite, I started learning Cubase just in case Logic Pro goes to subscription on the Mac version like on iPad. I’m also using Bitwig, even though they have a fee, you don’t have to upgrade if you don’t want to and keep your current version, plus it seems like every time I open it there’s a new update(I guess Cubase is the same way iirc).
@@DaleRobertSzyms yes, Cubase is the same. You can use your version forever without paying anything more.
Cubase is super out of date tho. That program feels very ancient. And they will prob go sub only at some point anyway. It’s inevitable for all companies on a long enough timeline. Sub only is the future…
Literally getting my new interface with Artist edition in a week and now I learn this :(
So I literally just bought a studio 26 audio interface. Options for incuded software are 6 months of studio one plus monthly or studio one artist perpetual licence.
Apparently the monthly subscription does not leave you with a perpetual version after it lapses so will it revert to artist or just nothing. I am pretty confused right now.
Probably only need artist but if its ending then what ?? If i click artist now will it work after 7 comes out?
If you register it and get Artist then you will still be able to use that version of Artist. You can test out the 6 months of pro if you want. It will be Version 7 pretty soon so you’ll get to see what that’s like but if you decide to revert back to your Artist license then that will be version 6.
You can go with any other DAW though. So check out something else if you want.
@@AudioTechTV Thanks for the reply, I know I am free to try other systems but part of the reason I chose the presonus interface was the included software. From what I can tell its either test out pro + for 6 months or Artist perpetual. Not both so if you get pro+ then stop it won`t revert to Artist. They need to clarify this stuff.
@ollie9397 maybe they’ve changed it now. They used to instantly put the artist license, and any other bundled software, into your account once you registered your device. You’re saying that now you have to make a choice before they put the license into your account. It doesn’t make sense as most audio interfaces will give you the limited DAW no matter what but also give you the option to try out a demo of the bigger daw.
If you’ve already registered the device go into your account and into your products section to see if Artist is listed in there. If it’s listed in there then that means you’ll have it no matter what.
@@AudioTechTV Hi. After reading this I just logged in to my Presonus to check. In the "your products" section it lists the hardware interface and loads of other plugins and things, Replika,MPX reverb, plugin alliance etc. However, there is no mention of any version of Studio one in this section. When I click on the interface it says "you are eligable to redeem software for your device" with a view offers button. When I click the button it shows a big advert for the 6 months of Pro+ monthly with a small "or redeem a perpetual licence of Studio one artist".
This has lead to my dilema, I have issued a support ticket asking for clarification.
Tracktion. Has the coolest/best signal routing of anything I've ever seen in their "effect racks" feature.
I'm done with subscriptions period
Reaper is the best ❤
Subscription model? Bye-bye.
They are offering 3 options. Perpetual, subscription, and hybrid subscription.
@@AudioTechTV Yes, I understood and thanks for the clarification. I assumed audio software houses would have paid attention to the Waves debacle. Subs are not for me.
@@LysdexiaIt’s not really a sub. But it is a lot like Waves model, for sure.
I was a Studio one user until they brought in the subscription scheme. (Insert long story). I switched to Ableton Suite and ever looked back. I write rock, indie and country tunes. Money wasn’t the issue, I just wanted to own and be able to leave at any time with what I paid for. Not rent and go empty handed having spent a wad of cash. Yes, I realise the benefits of subscription but it’s not for me. I tried it for a short while with Reason.
@@brucemillar studio one never stopped offering perpetual licenses. They just added other ways to get studio one like through subscription and the hybrid subscription option.
I’m Artist user. Migrating to Cubase.😤😤
You mean Cubase Artist? Lol
Still waiting for Behringers free daw, it better be slamming hehe
If the free vintage vst is anything to go by it will be all fur coat and no knickers.
You're actually describing Crack dealers .
THIS
STUFF PRESONUS! 🤬🤬🤬 REAPER AND REASON ALL THE WAY! 😊
Really bad move from Presonus
Studio One has not been good for me anyway. See ya 👋
Presonus will lose hardware sales . Im really not to pleased about Artist version going away .
These greedy ass companies...
I'm honestly shocked why everyone hasn't moved straight to Reaper. There is literally no downside.
I think Studio One needs more beat making tools rather than work flow audio recording. Hip hop is being neglected by Studio One
Rumor is that they are adding a clip launcher like Live and Bitwig in version 7
@@TeslaOsiris for beatmakers we need more that. Better workflow in sample chops. Stem separation.
@@gsmith11172 sample chopping already exists in Impact XT…it’s basically on the same level as Ableton’s sample chopping.
And the stem separation is also allegedly in version 7.
@@gsmith11172 actually stem separation is supposed to be coming too
@@dinsfire8489 what else did you hear
Why consider any other DAW when Logic for $199 includes more instruments, plugins and samples/loops than anybody else? StudioOne, Cubase, Ableton and ProTools all cost much, much more…😮
I personally would love to use logic but I don’t use a mac
add "buy a mac" for that $199 bucks
APPLE only. That’s why.
SaS sucks!