Let's be honest, most of these girls with the very expensive clothes and jewellery did not drop a cent of it themselves. Mommy and/or daddy dropped all that money. Often, these girls come from a long line of women who belonged to these sororities, and not only have to live up to everyone else in the sorority, but they are also upholding a family legacy.
I agree, it's probably a lot of pressure on some of them. I don't doubt many enjoy it too, but having all this weigh on your shoulders really can't be easy
@@kapsicansome of my sorority sisters definitely had so much pressure put on them not only by their mothers and aunts but also the sorority itself! Legacy is such a big deal to some orgs and they will push some of those poor legacy girls to the brink to make it look appealing!
@@stalinbeballin if they could at least be honest about the struggle I feel like it would be a lot more healthy for all of them but the forced positivity really is what's making this so hard on these girls. who knows, maybe eventually there will be change when enough of them are fed up about it
But explain the "legacy"? Is it a helping others legacy? Create something to help their local community legacy? Rescuing animals legacy? Raising the literacy rate legacy? Or just "My mom and dad got me into this sorority" legacy? Because that's all I see.
the jewelry and outfit price breakdown videos always shock me. casually wearing that much money just for recruitment is insane, especially since a lot of it is so ugly 😭
In Alabama the connections are so good, I don’t remember who did a breakdown on it (maybe Jordan Theresa) but you realize just how important it is for these girls to be in the sororities! From other places it’s also connections but more on friends
In mine it was an agricultural women's fraternity so a lot of these women were in the same classes so they could easily help you out... Because it was ag focused, a lot of us had similar backgrounds and a lot of things in common too. Philanthropy wasn't our main focus, but we still did it often- like bingo night at the senior center, walking for cancer, and cleaning up highways (the K's were far more focused on Philanthropy) I ultimately left because of a very anti trans discussion that rubbed me the wrong way and finances (not my president - she was awesome, but some of the other girls were a problem... I will mention that the main girl I had a problem with later said something on Facebook that was very hateful and several other women called her out including me and I got an apology email from our president apologizing for her behavior )
@@letscheer3599 I’m an Alabama alum & I can confidently say the only time those connections are actually beneficial is if you are in some kind of business or communications field. Every single person I know who was involved in Panhellenic life that didn’t go into those fields has gained nothing from those connections. I actually have a better job than most people I know who were in Greek life in college 😂 and I’ve got the same degree as 90% of the people I know.
The idea is that you can make friends with the other members and having fun. Its also to form professional relationships for the future. So like they can give you hints and favors or whatever.
hey!! i’m a sorority girl :) Though i didn’t grow up well off (got groceries at dollar tree quite a bit). I thrift all my outfits for this and it is totally on a person by person basis. my sorority gets made fun of for being so accepting but being at such a big school it made it much easier to find a friend group that would keep me even if i decided to leave the sorority
Same! My sorority I was in is seen on campus as the "ugly/weird/unwanted girls" but I loved it. My sorority was the most diverse in body size, skin color, interests, etc. Looking through the Instagram account, it was the only one that wasn't all skinny white blonde girls. While I am a skinny white blonde girl, I didn't want to be surrounded by that. I loved my time. There were definitely still issues when it came to the expenses of being a member. Our yearly dues came out to around $1k, which paid for recruitment, administration fees to the organization, chapter events/programming, 2-3 shirts for our big events like recruitment/bid day/philanthropy events, and hosting 2 large philanthropy events to raise money for our organization. I was in Delta Gamma, so our philanthropy is Service for Sight and goes to support several different types of support for blind/visually impaired people. But if you couldn't afford your dues, there really wasn't much financial support offered. There were a handful of scholarships available through the organization to help pay tuition/housing, but no direct support for our dues. The leadership over my 3 years in changed pretty dramatically though to go from being super strict about all members attending everything with no exceptions, to widely expanding options for working women to be excused from events on a set schedule so that they can afford to be members without needing their parents to foot the bill. There was a huge realization that if we wanted the best, most talented, and passionate women, and we wanted to retain them, we needed to cut our dues as low as we could, and make as many exceptions to accommodate work schedules as possible.
Same! I'm in a sorority at a smaller women's university, so obviously there are some differences in campus culture, but everyone I've met through it has been wonderful, and the benefits really do outweigh the costs for me! Our campus is already a minority majority school, so the racism I see in a lot of these Bama rush videos didn't really apply, at least not nearly to that extent. I think sororities tend to get a bad rap, since so many of them aren't at all like the big schools you see on tiktok, and it honestly makes me a little sad that people generalize it so much
@@frenchfriedtomatoes3247 I was also in a sorority about 10 years ago (I’m 29 now). It was a local chapter that pretty much accepted anyone who could pay the $200 fee. It was also MUCH more chill than this and I’m friends with some of the girls to this day. I remember feeling really uncomfortable with how Panhellenic’s ran things back in the day but this is just insane
@@coolchameleon21 Actually (and idk if this is true for all colleges) if you're a new member in a frat at Bama you HAVE to dress up in a suit. It's the same with the sororities. They're made to dress up, it's actually kind of insane. And they must stay for the whole game too, no leaving early even if it's a complete blowout lol
Can you imagine the time and money it takes just to upkeep all that? The hair, nails, skin, clothes, makeup, tans, etc. It literally creeps me out. I don’t think they look good. They’re all a (very) slightly different version on the same theme: entitled, fake, and judgy as hell. They’d LOVE me in my beat up cowboy boots, jeans, and baseball hat ;-). Pretty sure my “aesthetic” would get me booted right out the door!
@kriswhite2220 It's not appealing to me either but I don't think u realize how judgementaI and harsh u sound while saying that's how they act. I'm hoping you're not but your post does convey some sort of jealousy.
@@Maialeen No, ma’am. No jealousy here. I’ve spent serious time around women like this. And not all of them are bad. In fact, most are fairly decent (to your face). But I’VE been judged because I don’t care that much about makeup, tans, name brands, etc. If you don’t fit their aesthetic, you’re essentially nobody. And it makes me incredibly sad that such beautiful young women are joining in this type of sorority that continues to further the importance of “marrying right”, networking, and setting oneself apart by flaunting wealth. I know I sound snarky, but it makes me really sad. Much of the world can’t afford to live that way (and some of us can, but choose not to), and it just sets people apart unnecessarily.
I can't imagine posting on the internet about all the expensive jewels I was planning on wearing to a public campus. Are they NOT worried about getting jumped?
Unpop opinion: ALOT of the white or white adjacent girls I went to HS with joined some of these organizations to find good HUSBANDS later down the line. I used to be so envious of these girls & wished I was born on the same class as them. They did well in HS, got scholarships to college, lived the ultimate college life & ultimately married their HS bf or a guy they met in Uni. 90% if these girls lives were orchestrated for them by their moms /families to keep the lineage going. Most of them had NO desire to go to college or really even pursue a career because they were taught their main goal is to become a wife & amazing mom. When everything is said & done…they got their degrees in something un useful or geared towards being a trad-wife such as: teaching, or nursing (and I mean that respectfully). However, their husbands are like big Engineers, doctors, etc that they only met & had access to b/c of these & sorority life connections. Literally all my white HS friends are married & are on baby #1 or #2 with their wealthy husbands and that’s the extent that these soror connections included. If you’re a low or middle class white woman, or a POC women, do not feel bad if you cant join these organizations. They are geared to a very certain demographic & serve a VERY specific purpose that may not be aligned if you’re a woman chasing a major career path outside of wife & mother. Pay attention, 90% of the women look EXACTLY the same & there is very little diversity…that is done on purpose.
That definitely should be an unpopular opinion. I'm a sorority girl and I'm a doctor. I went to school with many women who had big career goals and have since achieved those goals. Sorry to hear your personal experience with sorority girls was bad, but we're often smarter than the general population at a school
For me, I joined because I was a transfer student living off campus during the 2020 school year where we got screamed at for standing too close to another person in class, so it was impossible for me to make friends the "normal" way since I didn't have access to the dorms or my classmates in that way. The sorority allowed all members in the house even if they didn't live there, so I was able to actually make human connection during that wild time. I also really wanted to get involved on campus and do service work, as at my first university, I was so broke and overwhelmed with full time work and full time school, I couldn't afford to set aside any time for anything except work and school. When I transferred, my financial burden was much lower, so it was important to me to get involved.
@@hailyjohnson407I hear this a lot but I literally just joined a service club on campus, like I didn’t have to be in a sorority to volunteer or make friends
@littleguy8714 it's what was most convenient for me to do both. I looked at service clubs, but my first semester, they only had once a week meetings on zoom that conflicted with my work schedule and were not doing any events on campus because of the covid concern. I didn't live on campus so I didn't have access to the dining hall (no meal plan) and I didn't have access to the dorms, so there was no where for me to go to hang out with people I did meet. It's definitely not the only option to make friends, or to participate in service involvement, but it's what was best for me and my situation to give me the opportunity for both. And it also gave me somewhere on campus that I could hang out with others indoors, because otherwise, there is really only outdoor spaces to socialize if you were a commuter student at my university during peak covid restrictions
The girl with the blue dress and $17k outfit is Kylan Darnell and she’s a legit influencer. My understanding is that she is a beauty pageant winner and got a good chunk of her tuition paid by a pageant win??
I don’t know WHAT it is, but sorority tea absolutely fascinates me…even if my parents could’ve afforded it, I wouldn’t have had the interest/motivation to join one, but media about the dark side of them always grabs me immediately. Honestly, I’d happily watch a 3hr+ deep dive on them😅
Sororities give me the creeps. One time, I hung out with a friend who had gotten into a sorority when I was still deciding whether or not I wanted to. She got in the year before, but literally wouldn’t say anything about anything sorority related. Her advice to me was so generic too. Her mom came around and chimed in at one point, and tried talking about something having to do with my friend’s induction or after or something. My friend literally raised her voice (never heard her do that) cut her mom off, got super uncomfortable, and said she wasn’t allowed to talk about that. Like she was sworn to a vow of silence or something. Js, I found that sketchy. I find a lot having to do with sororities sketchy.
Yeah I made a friend with a sorority girl and when she had to pick something up from her Greek house bc we were going to study together I had to stand outside and wait bc there was a bunch of secret rush stuff happening inside? Fucking stupid as shit.
@@topotondo828 It's not shady, it's tradition. If everyone knew the traditions, it wouldn't be special anymore. Not "shady," just too exclusive for your blood I suppose
I used to be in a “bottom sorority” which is such a ridiculous term to begin with. It’s not allowed, but girls would gossip and tell PNMs that our sorority was “lame” etc. I got two bids, one from a very well reputed sorority and then one from my current one. I am LGBTQ+ and not thin, and genuinely vibes with the girls better in the bottom sorority because the president was trans, a lot of members were also LGBTQ+. The other sorority, well, they had a huge substance a**se problem. I don’t regret my choice at all. It’s messed up to see sororities (even at a nerdy school like Carnegie Mellon) kinda go through this…
The fact that these videos are meant to be aspirational and fun is wild to me. If you told me it was all an elaborate promotional campaign for a new psychological horror movie coming out I would believe you.
I was lucky enough to have my parents fund my entire college education back in 2014-2018, and they REALLY wanted me to join a sorority, so in turn, I rushed. My normal style has always been band tees and very alternative, but my rush pictures portray a completely different person. Bright blonde hair, pastel poofy dresses and outfits, very natural makeup. I remember my mom spent SO much money on jewelry and outfits for me FOR RUSH to make sure I'd get a bid at the most popular sorority. Rushing is really just a plethora of superficial conversations where you can tell the girls are judging if they vibe with you and what you're wearing and what you look like. I got the bid for that sorority, joined it, and I remember the second thing we did on initiation day/night (after walking through a house draped in white fabric floor to ceiling, wearing only white and doing that whole ceremony) was going down to this area where we learned "chants" that shit on all the other sororities. Specifically, less popular ones. Now, it's obviously not allowed to publicly shit on the other sororities, so we'd have a specific clapping rhythm for each song, that way we could do it in public without saying anything. There's a lot more stuff, of course, but I feel like that gives you a good picture of what it's like.
Did you stay in there for your entire time in college ? it seems so hard because you'd have to basically act like you're a different person than who you are
@@LydiaCaster Not even just act, also look and dress. So like being a tv show character not like yourself at all for four years with no breaks except no one realises it's acting. My own personal hell
My best friend went through Bama Rush for the hell of it. A big sorority did a painting social and my friend cleaned her paintbrush off in the big bowl of lemonade 🤣 she didn't get a bid for that sorority. I was in a tiny sorority at a tiny college. I dropped out because it was so boring and I'm not a girly girl. My sorority didn't want you to post pictures drinking or have anything in the background. You have to go to the house and study on a weekly schedule or pay a fine if you don't go. You had to buy a present for your big sister, your secret sister and your fraternity brother for every single fraternity. The money you spent was insane, and that was just my experience at a little tiny school. I believe I had to pay $500 just to leave the sorority.
I knew a few sorority girls during my time at Alabama. Most of them were in the “lower tier” sorority and they had the lowest dues on campus. One of my friends told me their dues were $3500 a semester (this was 2013-2017). I was flabbergasted! And then the money they spent on shirts & stuff outside of dues would have bankrupted me 😭
@@yourlocaltrickstergod to leave. Not only had to pay fines, I had to write them a letter! If you owe any fees, they can send them to collections (about 99% sure about that).
I rushed in 2014 exactly 10 years ago and it was a different world. We were posting our chevron print dress and Kendra Scott jewelry with the flower crown filter 😂
Omg same here! The chevrons had a hold on sorority girls back in the day! And the “fancy” girls would wear like Lily Pulitzer not Chanel and Hermes! For big events a bunch of us would go thrifting beforehand and no one had any issues! My big’s only request was that my clothes be clean and fit lol
If it’s true it’s wild that the larger organization of said sorority approved the sponsorship. They have very strict standards. Either things have changed or they don’t know. Either way…oof
Ngl…no hate to the people who participate in sororities…but sororities freak me the fuck out.😭😭😭 It’s just something about them and the vibes they give off, and with the way that everyone in them looks eerily similar or same… The whole thing just gives me bad vibes.
As a sorority girl at a huge southern school, I went through rush wearing dresses from clearance old navy and target and normal/costume jewelry and still got accepted into a very “good” sorority. Yes some girls choose to go all out but some don’t, and most of the time they don’t even notice your jewelry during recruitment! I didn’t feel judged at all, even by the girls in higher end clothing. So yeah, it’s 50/50!
Same. As someone who did uga rush I never felt like I was being judged for my outfits or jewelry. If anything the girls with super expensive stuff intimidated,me but they turned out to be nice.
Yes I also didn’t cash out on expensive clothing to rush and got into a “top” sorority at a huge southern university. I feel like most girls I rushed with did not have super expensive or flashy outfits either.
When I was in college I was a beautiful early 2000’s goth girl & had no interest in being in a sorority because…. Well, have YOU ever seen a goth sorority? It would be sweet AF, but I digress. Then, after being begged to participate in rush week at a classmate’s sorority, cause as she said, “they are different & not at all toxic like you see in the movies. It took me less than an hour to confirm that, no, no they were not different. They were exactly like what is portrayed in the movies, they were just more desperate for recruits.
I feel like the top sororities are were the mean girls from high school thrive. The girls that were extremely popular in school and know how to emulate that and be an “it” girl. If your not like that your kinda screwed unfortunately. My mom went to UCLA and rushed at their sororities and they were really mean to her so that was always what I thought about sororities.
That is not true at all. Most if not all sororities encourage women to seek out job and internship opportunities. During weekly chapter meetings, sororities will discuss opportunities for women to find internships or jobs they know about that are available in their city or university usually.
That one lady at 19 minutes really explained why I don't like them lol. "we need to look inclusive". That to me read "We have to look like we want different people, but we just want rich pretty white women".
ikr they actually looked pretty cute i was like oh nice earrings and then they were over 12k and i was like NEVERMIND i wonder if i can diy something like that haha
Completely off topic but I looove the framed flowers in the background, it’s not my particular style but I think it’s so cool and something I haven’t seen before, usually I see them pressed but you have them sitting there it’s so beautiful and cool and unique imo
Yea. My sorority was a hot mess. They didn't let me recruit and I didn't know until the end of the second day when I asked them straight up. People were telling lies about me about what I would say to non sorority members and living in that house was the worst 7 months of my life. It's really not for everyone, but they are trained to make it seem like a fairytale and ITS SO NOT
The number of people who will drop thousands of dollars on designer COSTUME jewelry is so confusing. You can buy high quality pieces that are solid gold and will last, or you can buy gold plated enamel Hermes...
to me, it makes more sense spending on costume jewelry that looks original and unique, and you can eventually sell and get good money from it than a bag, like 5k in a bag to be sitting on top of dirty places is actually insane. Buying Designer "jewelry" is also crazy, most os them are cheap quality, not at all close to jewelry.
My bestfriend was in a sorority. She denounced at 27. They made it absolutely difficult. She shared with me her full hazing story, as these stories are suppose to stay closed lip because it’s illegal to haze but they still do. Crazy to see these girls dancing/strolling together talking about sisterhood, meanwhile they were forced to fight, water boarded, forced to stay up, degrading and humiliating themselves, and so much worse…I was always creeped out by sororities, but i always been the type to not fall into peer pressure, so the idea of someone telling me to do something crazy that i dont want to do, im not gonna do it just to get into a community. That you also have to pay for !! Paying to get your ahhh beat and call those same girls “sisters” My mom went to join one in the 70s, they said she had to put a bunch of crazy stuff in her hair for the first phase of hazing, my mom said absolutely th not. She was also at VA Tech when a boy died in a river by the school while being hazed… which happens more than youb think…Its also demonic, but thats a whole nother convo in itself. Its the main reason why my friend denounced. But just think about it, everyone go up in arms when ice spice made the devil horn symbol with her hand, but no one bats an eye when a specific sorority uses it!
I was in a sorority. They literally give you a list of specific clothes/brands to buy. I quit when our outfits for Rush was going to be upwards of $500 in 1993 dollars.
16:30 The thing is, the woman who started this trend was doing it AS SATIRE. But coming from the mouths of these women, it feels less like satire and more like they are the thing that was being satirized.
I went to a large southern state school, I was a frat sweetheart on the composite and everything, dated the president of a frat, went to all their events… as a girl who wasn’t in Greek life. I didn’t join a sorority because I didn’t dress like them or enjoy the same hobbies as a typical sorority member. I never did well holding on to groups of girlfriends (only had one or two close friends for years), and I wasn’t social/ charismatic in the ways those girls usually are. On paper, I was (maybe still am) a total “I’m not like other girls”- I like gross humor, I loved the frat UFC watching parties, I played magic the gathering and DnD, I liked tv shows that, while I know girls in general watch them too, the majority of the audience is male. I got along better with males all my life, being the first girl in my generation on both sides of my family. But I never flaunted my interests as if I was superior to the sorority girls. I never shit on them for their interests. And a lot times I wanted the type female friendships they had, but was always too nervous to ever try to get my foot in the door with making friends. They intimidated me, because I was insecure of myself and they appeared perfect to me. In my experience, I’ve had a small number of girls treat me with that passive aggressive “mean girl” niceness, but I’ve met plenty of sorority girls that were just about as sweet as a damn cavity. I mean I met MULTIPLE girls at these events that were absolutely the type to brighten up a room just by walking in it, who were so fun, happy, and wanting to include others- just textbook extroverts with hearts of gold. The organized dances, the rules, the politics, the PRICE, was, and still is a huge turn off for me. If I ever have a daughter, I really would prefer she didn’t get into Greek life period (I saw a lot of behind the scenes stuff and experienced quite a few scary situations as a direct result of Greek life groups), but I do completely understand why girls still find it fun and desirable. Especially the poor, insecure girls looking for community in an ever distant society. So many of them are kind hearted and well meaning, it’s the few bad apples that turn this community into a contest of the different tiers of houses, the status with the money and clothes, and the absolutely ridiculous expectations. I don’t like sororities, but sorority girls are some of the kindest and beautiful (inside and out) people I have ever met.
I've also noticed on my own campus that girls will diet like crazy. I work on campus and have a good chunk of them dont eat much, and it concerns me at times.
I loved your first Rush video! I'm from Massachusetts so Greek life isn't very popular here so I find it fascinating (and disturbing) at the same time. It's like that Spongebob episode when Squidward goes to that gated community and everybody looks the same 🤣
Isabella- you hit the nail on the head! i was in a sorority in college and this + so much more happens behind the scenes. i had no idea going in, and once i found out how gross it really all is, i quit. also the house i joined is one of the big ones in the south and everyone wants to be in that specific chapter so girls would join at other schools and then transfer to like bama since it’s so selective during rush at the big school.
Several of the Bama sororities have dress code rules if you live in the house after you pledge. You are never allowed on the 1st floor of the house unless hair, make-up and outfit are “done” (only 2 of 3 so you can go downstairs without makeup on if you are appropriately dressed and have your hair done)😊
I was in a sorority at my college and I am SO THANKFUL that it was chill. My grandma was in a sorority at LSU and I had my hair dyed cranberry red and she told me I'd have to dye it back to my natural color, I didn't because that's dumb. And then I went to my first house and like 3 girls in the sorority had dyed hair and it was considered "the most sorority-like" out of the four we have lol
As a former sorority girl (go tridelt!) I’m 99% sure we were NOT allowed to get extra money or gifts or anything from a brand at all. ESPECIALLY around recruitment time! Panhellenic is REALLY strict with this kind of stuff so I’m amazed that these sororities are doing brand deals.
Man, things have changed. I was in a sorority from 1983- 1986. We did not have all of this nonsense. We wore regular clothing and participated in service projects. This was in Wisconsin. These young women are missing the point of a sorority. Very sad for them. All of the women in my sorority had part time jobs as well.
@@nightreader1264 agree. I’m in the Midwest and pledged ‘92. This is all crazy. We had 5 houses on campus and none of them acted or did anything like this. We wore clothing similar / same. As in a $30 top with matching $20 shorts. Things like that. Things I would wear forever until they fell apart. We did have fun yes, but philanthropy was a big thing as was scholarship and grades
University of Alabama has low rankings among the nation’s public universities. This somehow makes sense in light of this super-boring-rich-kid Greek culture.
I was a part of a Canadian sorority that was probably considered a bottom sorority. Out of all sororities on campus, we were the most diverse, the most accepting of queer and non-binary students (almost all of us were a part of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community). I was sisterhood chair and from what I saw of other orgs we were actually close with each other and friends. We were a small group (~15-20 actives at one time) but I truly felt loved, supported and accepted. I can’t talk for other sororities but from my experience with my sisters, it was amazing and I didn’t have to break my bank to impress them. I legit just had to be myself and make friends. I think that’s what a sorority should be and something that’s been lost admis the desire to show a better status than others.
Everyone having the same exact outfit is very on brand (pun intended) with typical Alabama girls, so if the clips where they're all matching is from a Bama Rush, then I could totally believe they weren't sponsored by the clothing company, but I could also believe it with the drink too. Brand loyalty and being on-trend with brands was something that made me feel like an outcast growing up in Alabama, even going to public schools with mandatory uniform policies. Those little logos and brand signals were everything to so many people.
The culture for white and black sororities are so different like wow. Like in AKA you would never I don't think I've ever in my experience ( as somebody who was up under my grandmother who happened to be in a sorority and all of her sorority friends growing up). Now that could be because I've been around a bunch of older women in these sororities so they're well past this but like what happened to betterment, service, and community
Yeah, my mom is a Delta and it definitely wasn’t like this for her. It was more way more professional but also more relaxed than this, especially since they take lifelong very seriously. But older D9 members have started to complain about the younger lines so I think it’s turning into this, at least at Howard it is.
For sure. I was never part of a sorority myself and am neither white nor black (am Asian Indian), but I did attend a major school in the south (Texas, to be exact) and even I felt such a massive difference in vibes between the white and black sororities. The latter just felt much stronger and more wholesome, and if I'd ever had any interest in rushing back then, I would've strongly preferred that vibe to the mess described in the video.
Umm my mom, aunts, etc are all Howard legacies. The D9 is JUST as problematic just in different ways. The AKAs still very much so have a colorism issue and still “discreetly” choose their girls based off if they could pass a brown paper bag test. They try to make it seem like they’re not by ALSO accepting darker-skinned women, but those girl are VERY & I mean VERY pretty & feminine. I’m talking lacefront always laid & flawless makeup everytime they go to class or events & dressed to a T! There is a running, unspoken joke that most of the Deltas are just girls who weren’t “pretty or light enough” to be an AKA…it’s really disheartening. And it’s not just the girls, there’s competition amongst the men too especially between the Kappas & Q’s. I know several men who were branded but made it seem like their branding was personal like a tattoo instead of fraternity related. A lot of them still haze underground. I’m in the military with a lot of the men and you’d be surprised how many of them are super loyal to their frats but have severe PTSD from their time during initiation & rush. It’s the same BS but on different levels. I think there is just an air of “I’m better than you” regardless if you’re a white or black sorority or fraternity.
It should also be noted this is more specific to the Pan-Hellenic council or “white sororities” verses the Divine 9 (black Greek orgs) or multicultural orgs
I went to college in the early 2000s. My dad was in a fraternity in college and loved it and took us to his old frat house once. I never understood the appeal of Greek life. This video basically confirms many of my preconceived notions about sororities.
Sorority alumni here (graduated with 3 years experience) everyones sorority experience is and will be different. And the school plays a HUGE role. These examples are the big mainstream schools and I can’t speak on that experience. My school was a CSU in California with 10,000 students, we had: 3 National sororities, 2/3 national fraternities (one left campus due to low numbers), and multiple multicultural sororities & fraternities. Highest member national sorority size at our school while I was in Greek life was 55 girls. I never saw myself joining a sorority and it took going online and moving away due to Covid for me to join because I wanted that community and friendship. I felt very disconnected from my college and being in the sorority during the online portion of lockdown allowed me to create real bonds with my sisters and then get to have all these friends waiting for me once campus opened back up. My sorority was very very inclusive and so were the other ones on campus! Since we didn’t have houses and much smaller scale events, we had much lower dues. Dues always decrease with time in chapter, mine went from 300$ a month to 95$ a month by my third year in chapter. My mom did pay for half of three payments (helped until i found a job), after that all dues and sorority expenses were on my dime. All of our events, outfits, etc. we had to put the money in or get donations from alumni to pay for because all money we fundraised had to go to our philanthropies, which is what it’s about at the end of the day. For our sorority we always looked for girls who wanted to progress in life, had goals and aspirations, or we saw having a future benefiting the sorority. I’m not saying my experience was perfect, there were definitely moments of frustration and tears shed, but I genuinely enjoyed my time and I don’t think I would’ve been able to make it through college so well without the girls I had with me and the routine sorority gave me. The experiences and memories being in a sorority were very much worth the cost aspect, because I wouldn’t of done any of the things I cherish most about college, like competing and winning our main fraternity on campus’s sweetheart challenge. I got to learn so much about another organization and earn money for their philanthropy, while competing in silly games and making amazing bonds with the boys in the frat. The biggest thing we said in my sorority was “what you put in, is what you get out” 💙 forever an AXID girl, t.f.j 💛
My favorite time of year! When videos about sororities/sorority recruitment comes into the spotlight lol as somebody who is a part of it, it’s still so interesting to me
I find these so amusing because I was in a sorority at a really small uni & my experience was the complete opposite. Rush for me was genuinely very chill, nothing crazy; one of the events I attended was literally just walking around a farmer’s market with an active of a random chapter. We also had no houses, so that helped too. It really just felt like another club on campus to me lmao. But I also recognize that the big state schools are another level & I think social media continues to highlight the negatives of Greek life. There are positive aspects to being apart of it & I wish chapters would focus on pushing their philanthropy rather than another ootd video.
i work at a popular discount store and a lot of people buy the van clerf knock off and it look very similar to the $15000 (or whatever the price was) earrings. im not saying the girl in the video did that but a lot of people buy the dupe when it's at my store and show it off as the real deal.
The ideal person for sororities is sadly not new. I pledged in 1994 at UNLV. The girls who got bids were almost all- white, thin, Californian, and elementary education majors. The only difference is social media is bringing attention to the dirty secrets of rush.
I was an active in my sorority from 2015-2017 at a smaller school. Overall I really enjoyed the experience and it gave me a lot of self esteem and connection that I needed in college. I understand that my experience is not the norm. I don't like what Greek life has become - especially the focus on social media and now brand deals!?? That's wild to me.
In Europe we have something similar, but usually mixed gender and very elitist as well, in the European, ‘my father is friends with the king’ way. A while ago, a student of colour died during initiation. Many of the male subgroups within them have some scandals, such as making lists of all female students they concider whores and posting them, chorussing ‘no is yes’ at a party etc. I once went to a party at one where I was told not to wear red pants because that means as a girl you will be taken to a red room where you are basically free real estate for the guys. They would often tell first years to wear red pants, so they wouldn’t know what it signified…
i will say it’s not like this everywhere. i go to a small university in virginia and we have 6 sororities. there’s like 20-30 girls in them and they don’t do these things. they aren’t sponsored and they don’t do rush. it’s just a very chill & low key recruitment week. they don’t base your membership off looks, money, or your name. i’m so thankful it’s not horrible everywhere (i’m not in greek life so this is an unbiased comment)
I had a roommate in a fraternity last year and his entire TikTok feed the whole year was just different things tied to the frat. He also had to wear a suit jacket and a very specific tie most of the time, was never home before 1 am, was constantly worn out when he WAS in the apartment, and would go to the gym in our complex like 30 minutes after getting home. I wish him luck as he lives with some of his frat brothers this year.
I can now understand why many people chose not to rush. What I personally observe from videos like these on this topic is that unless you are a blonde, slim bodied, able bodied, white woman who comes from a family that has money…you really don’t stand a chance. Where are women who aren’t white nor blonde in these sorority videos? See what I mean? Personally…I truly wonder what people really get out of sororities and fraternities except for the fact maybe saying you look a certain way and have money…if it’s really truly about sisterhood or brotherhood and getting to know people…then that can surely be done in so many other ways like common interests, other clubs and gatherings…etc. I think people tend to find someone who you truly would develop meaningful and genuine relationships/friendships with through something you really enjoy doing like hobby or a cause or career that you care about than through fraternities and sororities…
I wear sweaters for the exact same reason. I try to convince myself and the weather gods that it is actually fall, but then I go outside and sweat to death lol
From a UK perspective I cannot tell you how sick and positively dystopian this whole subject is. Nothing about education. All about looks. Everyone looks like the stepoed out of the Barbie movie, not as actors but actual characters. Really this is just mind blowing. What's wrong with the parents of these kids.
This is the absolute extreme of sorority rush. It is wild to watch! I came from a small liberal arts college, and while we had rush, it was so low key. No choreographed dances. No expensive outfits. I’m also not sure if sponsorships are allowed. The Panhellenic Council oversees all sorority recruitment and each college has their own chapter. It’d be interesting to know if they have rules against it.
This is so interesting to hear your perspective, & read the comments. I was Vice President of Membership for my sorority during my collegiate years, meaning I ran Recruitment. Part of that included me choosing our Recruitment outfits (we all matched, except the final night). This was 20 years ago, so social media was not a part of our Recruitment. My school had 6 sororities, & one definitely had the “rich girls only” vibe. They were predominantly thin white blonde girls, had the highest gpa requirement (there are different gpa requirements to join each sorority), the highest dues, & during Recruitment, they asked my friend about what her dad did for a living & how much he made 😅 My sorority had people from all walks of life - different races, ethnicities, weight classes, socioeconomic classes, etc. There was a monthly “fee” (dues), weekly meetings, & rules you had to adhere to. Someone in another comment mentioned not being allowed to post anything with alcohol, & same. Girls under 21 would get in trouble (& have to go to Standards Committee) if found posting anything with alcohol. Obviously, no drugs or excessive partying, as we do represent the sorority. We also were not allowed to be at fraternity houses past 2am. (Which is when bars typically close) Facebook became a thing when I was in college. It would be interesting to be in college now with social media being what it is. Facebook was brand new, & MySpace on its way out. But it was so different back then. & yes, there are things we are not supposed to talk about. Anything that is “Ritual”. Someone else commented her friend wouldn’t tell her or her mom certain things. As she shouldn’t have. It’s not like we’re drinking each others blood or anything crazy 😂 but I guess some people find it strange. 🤷🏽♀️ to each their own Overall, I loved sorority. I still consider myself a sorority woman, & have been active in local alumna chapters. Some of my best friends, I met in sorority.. one being my Lil Sis. & yes, you do have to buy your Big & Lil Sis presents, as someone mentioned, but it sounds crazier than it is (to me). We had a Big/Lil Sis reveal week… we each made each other presents. I made her a different present every day, including a photo album, a pillow, a clipboard.. she made me a Brick & a paddle. I wish I could attach pictures because all 4 of my paddles are absolutely GORGEOUS! Anyway, thank you for the video. I appreciate hearing different perspectives, & seeing what it’s like at different schools in a different time
Based on your comment I am assuming that we were likely active around the same time, about 20 years ago :D Seem so wild now! I feel like we had a similar experience and I should look up my local Alumni chapter and get involved again. The Big/Little reveal and initiation week were some of the most fun, making and gifting presents for each other. We only got one paddle, from our Big for an initiation gift, but I still have mine on the wall in my office! :) My favorite event was always Homecoming because it was always around Halloween and I love pomping and making the float for the parade. Seriously, some of the best memories and you're right, I get that ritual can seem odd/scary/weird, but it's not any of that to me, just a set of secrets I hold with thousands of other women across the nation. :D To each their own is a great way to put it.
18:43 I've seen conversations online where people discuss how sorority culture negatively impacts those that aren't an upper middle class cishet white girl
I will say - as far as the outfits go, even at my small midwestern state university, we were required to buy work week and recruitment clothes from certain stores and links were provided up to like... 5 months in advance so you had time to space it out! We were really good though about getting items girls could reuse for years to come and I definitely did!
As an introvert, this is my nightmare. Rushed 30 years ago (yes, I’m old & it was “ the thing to do”), didn’t get in one, such a relief in hindsight sight
My paternal grandmother and my mom were both part of the same sorority, which would have made me a 3rd generation legacy. When i started undergrad, one member spoke with me once before rush and that was it, no effort to convince me to rush or anything (which is fine). I am a bigger person. My stepsister on my dad's side's only connection is through his mom (her stepgrandma). She is very conventionally attractive. When she started undergrad, that same sorority tried so hard to recruit her as a legacy. The same with my own roommate in undergrad whose mom had been a member.
THANK YOU for doing this video. When I was in College I tried to pledge two different sororities (not straight Greek); One was a music sorority Mu Phi Epsilon, and the other was a Catholic sorority (can't recall their letters right now, that was 22 years ago) but I was not accepted into either. And these were not big Greek ones. I have never been rich, nor have I ever been traditionally pretty and I have never been skinny/ slim. So back then, even at the school I was at with the different types of sororities we had, it was still very much about fitting in with certain people and looks, etc.
As someone who “rushed” and was active in my sorority my 4 years of college (2009-2013), I am SO SO SO SO glad that social media wasn’t near like it is now. If I had to use TikTok/snapchat/etc to promote myself, I’d have quit. Facebook was bad enough lol Luckily, mine was a chapter of a Panhellenic sorority that was way more laid back, and we didn’t have to go out and spend $$$$$ to look the part (and yes, we stood out at events with other chapters of our sorority lol) Edit to add: letter shirts were the most expensive thing we were encouraged to buy, although we made ours more than spending $40 or so on a tshirt
I also fully acknowledge and agree that some people have an awesome time being in a sorority and truly feel a close connection to the other members BUT the same could be said about MLMs. What matters (in my opinion) is the system itself is not designed for the individual to be successful/happy necessary. It's designed for the organization to have clout and money and status
I actually know a girl from my old high school who I graduated with who went upstate (we’re from Long Island NY) for college, and joined a sorority. She also came from a very well off family….both parents in real estate, and she as well as her siblings were all athletes at least in high school and have always had a lot of money. I think when it comes to these girls having money within their families, and being gifted these accessories….the whole “mommy and daddy’s money” can be hard, because even if their parents did pay for them to have those luxurious items….that’s not the girls’ faults. Most of them never asked to be raised rich they were just brought up into it and for the ones who’ve always remained humble about their upbringings, and how much money they have…..they shouldn’t be “judged” as much. I try to see it as “them having money doesn’t directly and personally affect me, because they don’t know me. Their lives don’t personally and affect me, them having more money than me isn’t their faults it’s based on society as well as our government.”
it’s funny, i graduated high school in 2011 and it’s so funny to see all the things that everyone already knew about sorority’s being broadcasted to the world. just interesting
So many sororities are copying the DCC Thunderstruck dance in their intro videos. It drives me nuts. As a former competitive gymnast, cheerleader and dancer, be original. Please. We see it every year and I think it’s unoriginal. Listening to them talking about being demure while wearing a cocktail dress in the daytime is wild. At least I assume it’s daytime. I rushed years ago at the University of Washington. It’s nothing like Bama Rush. Even now it’s not like that. I ended up moving to Germany to go to college, so I never joined a sorority. That was more of my dad’s dream for me than my own dream. That’s part of the reason I decided to take the opportunity to be an au pair and study abroad, but I am a Husky at heart. 💜 💛
I'm a sorority alum, I absolutely loved my time living in the house and out of house with other sisters, and I'm still friends with many of the girls in my own pledge class and the classes before and after mine. My experience was SO different from all of these discussed in this video. I didn't have any connections to any of the houses, I had zero recommendations, myself and my family are not rich/do not wear designer anything, I'm a curvy gal and had curly brown hair, and I still got invited into a very well respected house. The house I was in was always part of the top 3 houses on campus. There were 14 sorority houses at my University. I am a very personable person and my grades were fantastic and extracurriculars were mid to low compared to other classmates. (I had to support myself so I had a part-time job since I was old enough to work, it took up time for extracurriculars.) I was active in the 2000s, and I don't know how different it is now at my school, but it was not in the South like Bama. The sponsorships you addressed in your video is WILD. We would have gotten in SO much trouble for that, like fines and threats of losing our charter depending on the severity. You nailed it when you said sponsorships create uneven playing field, and that's exactly why they weren't allowed. I'm so glad TikTok wasn't a thing back then, and Facebook was "The Facebook" and it opened up for my Univ after Sorority Rush already happened for me. During my time I was the Song Leader for one year and I served as our Recruitment Chair for 2 years. We did have different themes/colors everyday but we never had to all buy exact matching anything. We wanted people to be comfortable and show how they interpret the theme/color. I would not be surprised if there is some sort of fine in place from the National Panhellenic Council for houses taking sponsorships, but these sororities are probably just putting out the content and then paying the fine. Once the toothpaste has been squeezed out of the tube it's nearly impossible to get it back in... so to speak. And if they are spending tens of thousands of dollars on outfits for Rush, then I would bet money to pay a fine is no issue and they likely have super rich Alumni donors. Or maybe the rules are different now? This is all just speculation on my part, I haven't been actively participating as an Alum for my house for years, no particular reason but I just moved cities and life happened. If they reached out and asked me to help with something would gladly help however I could.
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The jewelry costs are actually crazy - most of the girls buy bracelets and RINGS that cost the same as a mid-2010s secondhand car
Some of these jewelry hauls I’ve seen are worth more than my damn car like shitttt
@@IsabellaLanterFR! like why do these 18-24 year old girls having jewelry costing more than my rent AND my car😭
My family is upper middle class but are practically dirt poor compared to these people.
The girls parents** 🥲 no early 20s girlies are buying themselves 13k earrings.
3k?
Let's be honest, most of these girls with the very expensive clothes and jewellery did not drop a cent of it themselves. Mommy and/or daddy dropped all that money. Often, these girls come from a long line of women who belonged to these sororities, and not only have to live up to everyone else in the sorority, but they are also upholding a family legacy.
I agree, it's probably a lot of pressure on some of them. I don't doubt many enjoy it too, but having all this weigh on your shoulders really can't be easy
@@kapsicansome of my sorority sisters definitely had so much pressure put on them not only by their mothers and aunts but also the sorority itself! Legacy is such a big deal to some orgs and they will push some of those poor legacy girls to the brink to make it look appealing!
@@stalinbeballin if they could at least be honest about the struggle I feel like it would be a lot more healthy for all of them but the forced positivity really is what's making this so hard on these girls. who knows, maybe eventually there will be change when enough of them are fed up about it
Well. They're expected to. They don't have to do anything.
But explain the "legacy"? Is it a helping others legacy? Create something to help their local community legacy? Rescuing animals legacy? Raising the literacy rate legacy? Or just "My mom and dad got me into this sorority" legacy? Because that's all I see.
the jewelry and outfit price breakdown videos always shock me. casually wearing that much money just for recruitment is insane, especially since a lot of it is so ugly 😭
The fact that most of it is ugly is killing me 😂
@@otakujennii HELPP
I think the craziest part to me is when they pair it w Shein clothes 😭
yes! maybe I'm too picky (and not rich lmao) but I can't imagine dropping $500 on a bracelet that looks like those omg.
Fugly jewellery with ostentatious flair that cost more than my annual salary 😂😂😂
I'm 27 and still have no clue what sororities or fraternities do... They've never seemed appealing to me
In Alabama the connections are so good, I don’t remember who did a breakdown on it (maybe Jordan Theresa) but you realize just how important it is for these girls to be in the sororities! From other places it’s also connections but more on friends
frat boys are creeps
In mine it was an agricultural women's fraternity so a lot of these women were in the same classes so they could easily help you out... Because it was ag focused, a lot of us had similar backgrounds and a lot of things in common too. Philanthropy wasn't our main focus, but we still did it often- like bingo night at the senior center, walking for cancer, and cleaning up highways (the K's were far more focused on Philanthropy)
I ultimately left because of a very anti trans discussion that rubbed me the wrong way and finances (not my president - she was awesome, but some of the other girls were a problem... I will mention that the main girl I had a problem with later said something on Facebook that was very hateful and several other women called her out including me and I got an apology email from our president apologizing for her behavior )
@@letscheer3599 I’m an Alabama alum & I can confidently say the only time those connections are actually beneficial is if you are in some kind of business or communications field. Every single person I know who was involved in Panhellenic life that didn’t go into those fields has gained nothing from those connections. I actually have a better job than most people I know who were in Greek life in college 😂 and I’ve got the same degree as 90% of the people I know.
The idea is that you can make friends with the other members and having fun. Its also to form professional relationships for the future. So like they can give you hints and favors or whatever.
Sororities give the same vibe as HOAs (and the like) to me. I’m not purposely trying to be more controlled than we already are.
And likewise they seem to be created to keep “the undesirables” out.
I unfortunately have an HOA and this comparison is hilarious to me 😂
I loved mine I live in Canada but it's not all like that! Also even within our school there was different levels of control
What’s a HOA?
Ong yes this is so true 😭
as a european, i am merely observing in bafflement
@@palasiksivain me and my mum were JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS. LIKE WHATTTTT!!!????
Same here 🤣. I'm Malaysian and I'm both fascinated and horrified by this weird American college culture.
I'm American and I'm still baffled 😅
hey!! i’m a sorority girl :) Though i didn’t grow up well off (got groceries at dollar tree quite a bit). I thrift all my outfits for this and it is totally on a person by person basis. my sorority gets made fun of for being so accepting but being at such a big school it made it much easier to find a friend group that would keep me even if i decided to leave the sorority
See this is the kind of sorority I can get with! I’m so sorry yours gets made fun of that’s bs! So glad you found something good 🥹🩷
I left my Greek house, but I am definitely still friends with a lot of those girls!
Same! My sorority I was in is seen on campus as the "ugly/weird/unwanted girls" but I loved it. My sorority was the most diverse in body size, skin color, interests, etc. Looking through the Instagram account, it was the only one that wasn't all skinny white blonde girls. While I am a skinny white blonde girl, I didn't want to be surrounded by that. I loved my time.
There were definitely still issues when it came to the expenses of being a member. Our yearly dues came out to around $1k, which paid for recruitment, administration fees to the organization, chapter events/programming, 2-3 shirts for our big events like recruitment/bid day/philanthropy events, and hosting 2 large philanthropy events to raise money for our organization. I was in Delta Gamma, so our philanthropy is Service for Sight and goes to support several different types of support for blind/visually impaired people. But if you couldn't afford your dues, there really wasn't much financial support offered. There were a handful of scholarships available through the organization to help pay tuition/housing, but no direct support for our dues. The leadership over my 3 years in changed pretty dramatically though to go from being super strict about all members attending everything with no exceptions, to widely expanding options for working women to be excused from events on a set schedule so that they can afford to be members without needing their parents to foot the bill. There was a huge realization that if we wanted the best, most talented, and passionate women, and we wanted to retain them, we needed to cut our dues as low as we could, and make as many exceptions to accommodate work schedules as possible.
Same! I'm in a sorority at a smaller women's university, so obviously there are some differences in campus culture, but everyone I've met through it has been wonderful, and the benefits really do outweigh the costs for me! Our campus is already a minority majority school, so the racism I see in a lot of these Bama rush videos didn't really apply, at least not nearly to that extent. I think sororities tend to get a bad rap, since so many of them aren't at all like the big schools you see on tiktok, and it honestly makes me a little sad that people generalize it so much
@@frenchfriedtomatoes3247 I was also in a sorority about 10 years ago (I’m 29 now). It was a local chapter that pretty much accepted anyone who could pay the $200 fee. It was also MUCH more chill than this and I’m friends with some of the girls to this day. I remember feeling really uncomfortable with how Panhellenic’s ran things back in the day but this is just insane
The craziest part is that they get super dressed up for game days too! Like we’re wearing Dior sneakers and Hermes bracelets to the frat houses?!
meanwhile the frat bros don’t wash and live in squalor
@@coolchameleon21 and then they kiss and get married lol
@@Anon4a2cp and she spends the rest of her life cleaning up after him
What are these clothes?? omg, what is happening, they look like Toddlers and Tiaras casting, and the tan????? 😂😂omg, I'm amazed
@@coolchameleon21 Actually (and idk if this is true for all colleges) if you're a new member in a frat at Bama you HAVE to dress up in a suit. It's the same with the sororities. They're made to dress up, it's actually kind of insane. And they must stay for the whole game too, no leaving early even if it's a complete blowout lol
Their tans are killing me 😂😂😂
I hope they're spray tans.
9:34 sis straight out of the 60's time machine
Can you imagine the time and money it takes just to upkeep all that? The hair, nails, skin, clothes, makeup, tans, etc. It literally creeps me out. I don’t think they look good. They’re all a (very) slightly different version on the same theme: entitled, fake, and judgy as hell.
They’d LOVE me in my beat up cowboy boots, jeans, and baseball hat ;-). Pretty sure my “aesthetic” would get me booted right out the door!
@kriswhite2220 It's not appealing to me either but I don't think u realize how judgementaI and harsh u sound while saying that's how they act. I'm hoping you're not but your post does convey some sort of jealousy.
@@Maialeen No, ma’am. No jealousy here. I’ve spent serious time around women like this. And not all of them are bad. In fact, most are fairly decent (to your face). But I’VE been judged because I don’t care that much about makeup, tans, name brands, etc. If you don’t fit their aesthetic, you’re essentially nobody. And it makes me incredibly sad that such beautiful young women are joining in this type of sorority that continues to further the importance of “marrying right”, networking, and setting oneself apart by flaunting wealth.
I know I sound snarky, but it makes me really sad. Much of the world can’t afford to live that way (and some of us can, but choose not to), and it just sets people apart unnecessarily.
I picked a school with no “Greek system” on purpose.
What is that like for you?
I can't imagine posting on the internet about all the expensive jewels I was planning on wearing to a public campus. Are they NOT worried about getting jumped?
I don’t think people would go jump them surrounded by other people unless they’re desperate to get money?
Unpop opinion: ALOT of the white or white adjacent girls I went to HS with joined some of these organizations to find good HUSBANDS later down the line. I used to be so envious of these girls & wished I was born on the same class as them. They did well in HS, got scholarships to college, lived the ultimate college life & ultimately married their HS bf or a guy they met in Uni.
90% if these girls lives were orchestrated for them by their moms /families to keep the lineage going. Most of them had NO desire to go to college or really even pursue a career because they were taught their main goal is to become a wife & amazing mom. When everything is said & done…they got their degrees in something un useful or geared towards being a trad-wife such as: teaching, or nursing (and I mean that respectfully). However, their husbands are like big Engineers, doctors, etc that they only met & had access to b/c of these & sorority life connections.
Literally all my white HS friends are married & are on baby #1 or #2 with their wealthy husbands and that’s the extent that these soror connections included. If you’re a low or middle class white woman, or a POC women, do not feel bad if you cant join these organizations.
They are geared to a very certain demographic & serve a VERY specific purpose that may not be aligned if you’re a woman chasing a major career path outside of wife & mother. Pay attention, 90% of the women look EXACTLY the same & there is very little diversity…that is done on purpose.
That definitely should be an unpopular opinion. I'm a sorority girl and I'm a doctor. I went to school with many women who had big career goals and have since achieved those goals. Sorry to hear your personal experience with sorority girls was bad, but we're often smarter than the general population at a school
Not you calling teaching and nursing “un-useful jobs”…🙂↔️🧐
@@erinmarieee23 babes your too slow to have this conversation if you think I called nurses & teachers an un-useful jobs. Stay in your lane beloved.
“we’re often smarter than the general population at the school” Pfffft, okay 😂 delulu
@@reverie8223 the whole point just keeps going over these people’s head whenever you try to call it out lol. Not surprised
I have never understood the sorority thing. The Stepford Wives vibe has always been so strong that I was even creeped out as a little girl.
For me, I joined because I was a transfer student living off campus during the 2020 school year where we got screamed at for standing too close to another person in class, so it was impossible for me to make friends the "normal" way since I didn't have access to the dorms or my classmates in that way. The sorority allowed all members in the house even if they didn't live there, so I was able to actually make human connection during that wild time.
I also really wanted to get involved on campus and do service work, as at my first university, I was so broke and overwhelmed with full time work and full time school, I couldn't afford to set aside any time for anything except work and school. When I transferred, my financial burden was much lower, so it was important to me to get involved.
@@hailyjohnson407I hear this a lot but I literally just joined a service club on campus, like I didn’t have to be in a sorority to volunteer or make friends
@littleguy8714 it's what was most convenient for me to do both. I looked at service clubs, but my first semester, they only had once a week meetings on zoom that conflicted with my work schedule and were not doing any events on campus because of the covid concern. I didn't live on campus so I didn't have access to the dining hall (no meal plan) and I didn't have access to the dorms, so there was no where for me to go to hang out with people I did meet. It's definitely not the only option to make friends, or to participate in service involvement, but it's what was best for me and my situation to give me the opportunity for both. And it also gave me somewhere on campus that I could hang out with others indoors, because otherwise, there is really only outdoor spaces to socialize if you were a commuter student at my university during peak covid restrictions
"I peaked in college" vibes too 😅
The girl with the blue dress and $17k outfit is Kylan Darnell and she’s a legit influencer. My understanding is that she is a beauty pageant winner and got a good chunk of her tuition paid by a pageant win??
oh that makes sense, she gives so much Toddler and Tiaras vibes
@@carolitoffana 100%... I couldn't pick the vibe I was getting but this is it
I don’t know WHAT it is, but sorority tea absolutely fascinates me…even if my parents could’ve afforded it, I wouldn’t have had the interest/motivation to join one, but media about the dark side of them always grabs me immediately. Honestly, I’d happily watch a 3hr+ deep dive on them😅
I blame sorority row for my fascination with them lmfao
Sororities give me the creeps.
One time, I hung out with a friend who had gotten into a sorority when I was still deciding whether or not I wanted to. She got in the year before, but literally wouldn’t say anything about anything sorority related. Her advice to me was so generic too. Her mom came around and chimed in at one point, and tried talking about something having to do with my friend’s induction or after or something. My friend literally raised her voice (never heard her do that) cut her mom off, got super uncomfortable, and said she wasn’t allowed to talk about that. Like she was sworn to a vow of silence or something. Js, I found that sketchy. I find a lot having to do with sororities sketchy.
Yea they made me swear on the Bible to not tell the secrets of the sorority. I'm not religious so I air them out all the time 😂
@@BeeBodlike why would a sorority have secrets that need to be kept. That’s just shady.
Yeah I made a friend with a sorority girl and when she had to pick something up from her Greek house bc we were going to study together I had to stand outside and wait bc there was a bunch of secret rush stuff happening inside? Fucking stupid as shit.
@@WatchtowerPrincess Was it during/before rush? Could've been trying to avoid 'dirty rushing'?
@@topotondo828 It's not shady, it's tradition. If everyone knew the traditions, it wouldn't be special anymore. Not "shady," just too exclusive for your blood I suppose
I used to be in a “bottom sorority” which is such a ridiculous term to begin with. It’s not allowed, but girls would gossip and tell PNMs that our sorority was “lame” etc. I got two bids, one from a very well reputed sorority and then one from my current one. I am LGBTQ+ and not thin, and genuinely vibes with the girls better in the bottom sorority because the president was trans, a lot of members were also LGBTQ+. The other sorority, well, they had a huge substance a**se problem. I don’t regret my choice at all. It’s messed up to see sororities (even at a nerdy school like Carnegie Mellon) kinda go through this…
i live near cmu
Lmaooo I’m also a carnegie alum and seeing the cmu mention was a jumpscare. I was in the sorority you rejected, you made the right choice
The p5 pfp is goated
@@Actual_Achilles thank uuuuu
Calling out MLMs? Very mindful, very demure
YOU GET IT 😂😂🩷
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The fact that these videos are meant to be aspirational and fun is wild to me. If you told me it was all an elaborate promotional campaign for a new psychological horror movie coming out I would believe you.
I was lucky enough to have my parents fund my entire college education back in 2014-2018, and they REALLY wanted me to join a sorority, so in turn, I rushed. My normal style has always been band tees and very alternative, but my rush pictures portray a completely different person. Bright blonde hair, pastel poofy dresses and outfits, very natural makeup. I remember my mom spent SO much money on jewelry and outfits for me FOR RUSH to make sure I'd get a bid at the most popular sorority. Rushing is really just a plethora of superficial conversations where you can tell the girls are judging if they vibe with you and what you're wearing and what you look like. I got the bid for that sorority, joined it, and I remember the second thing we did on initiation day/night (after walking through a house draped in white fabric floor to ceiling, wearing only white and doing that whole ceremony) was going down to this area where we learned "chants" that shit on all the other sororities. Specifically, less popular ones. Now, it's obviously not allowed to publicly shit on the other sororities, so we'd have a specific clapping rhythm for each song, that way we could do it in public without saying anything. There's a lot more stuff, of course, but I feel like that gives you a good picture of what it's like.
Did you stay in there for your entire time in college ? it seems so hard because you'd have to basically act like you're a different person than who you are
@@LydiaCaster Not even just act, also look and dress. So like being a tv show character not like yourself at all for four years with no breaks except no one realises it's acting. My own personal hell
My best friend went through Bama Rush for the hell of it. A big sorority did a painting social and my friend cleaned her paintbrush off in the big bowl of lemonade 🤣 she didn't get a bid for that sorority. I was in a tiny sorority at a tiny college. I dropped out because it was so boring and I'm not a girly girl. My sorority didn't want you to post pictures drinking or have anything in the background. You have to go to the house and study on a weekly schedule or pay a fine if you don't go. You had to buy a present for your big sister, your secret sister and your fraternity brother for every single fraternity. The money you spent was insane, and that was just my experience at a little tiny school. I believe I had to pay $500 just to leave the sorority.
To leave??!!
I knew a few sorority girls during my time at Alabama. Most of them were in the “lower tier” sorority and they had the lowest dues on campus. One of my friends told me their dues were $3500 a semester (this was 2013-2017). I was flabbergasted! And then the money they spent on shirts & stuff outside of dues would have bankrupted me 😭
@@eckilla oh yeah, the fees/dues were nuts!
@@yourlocaltrickstergod to leave. Not only had to pay fines, I had to write them a letter! If you owe any fees, they can send them to collections (about 99% sure about that).
Ew.
I rushed in 2014 exactly 10 years ago and it was a different world. We were posting our chevron print dress and Kendra Scott jewelry with the flower crown filter 😂
Omg same here! The chevrons had a hold on sorority girls back in the day! And the “fancy” girls would wear like Lily Pulitzer not Chanel and Hermes! For big events a bunch of us would go thrifting beforehand and no one had any issues! My big’s only request was that my clothes be clean and fit lol
The sponsorship aspect is actually crazy and kind of disheartening tbh
If it’s true it’s wild that the larger organization of said sorority approved the sponsorship. They have very strict standards. Either things have changed or they don’t know. Either way…oof
That girl in pink with Amazon shoes was adorable
@@stormyskyz4251 right???? I loved her fit and vibe
She was the only authentic one in the bunch. SHE was demure. The others… not so much.
Ngl…no hate to the people who participate in sororities…but sororities freak me the fuck out.😭😭😭
It’s just something about them and the vibes they give off, and with the way that everyone in them looks eerily similar or same…
The whole thing just gives me bad vibes.
As a sorority girl at a huge southern school, I went through rush wearing dresses from clearance old navy and target and normal/costume jewelry and still got accepted into a very “good” sorority. Yes some girls choose to go all out but some don’t, and most of the time they don’t even notice your jewelry during recruitment! I didn’t feel judged at all, even by the girls in higher end clothing. So yeah, it’s 50/50!
Same. As someone who did uga rush I never felt like I was being judged for my outfits or jewelry. If anything the girls with super expensive stuff intimidated,me but they turned out to be nice.
Yes I also didn’t cash out on expensive clothing to rush and got into a “top” sorority at a huge southern university. I feel like most girls I rushed with did not have super expensive or flashy outfits either.
When I was in college I was a beautiful early 2000’s goth girl & had no interest in being in a sorority because…. Well, have YOU ever seen a goth sorority? It would be sweet AF, but I digress.
Then, after being begged to participate in rush week at a classmate’s sorority, cause as she said, “they are different & not at all toxic like you see in the movies.
It took me less than an hour to confirm that, no, no they were not different. They were exactly like what is portrayed in the movies, they were just more desperate for recruits.
I would love a emo/goth/punk sorority tbh
I feel like the top sororities are were the mean girls from high school thrive. The girls that were extremely popular in school and know how to emulate that and be an “it” girl. If your not like that your kinda screwed unfortunately. My mom went to UCLA and rushed at their sororities and they were really mean to her so that was always what I thought about sororities.
That girl's outfit costs as much as my CAR. Some of this jewelry costs more than my engagement and wedding rings. Holy Moses.
😅 shit that girls jewelry alone is a down payment for a house
Don’t worry, the earrings were fake.
I can't relate to any person less in my life than these little rich sorority girls.
The copyright free music over their dancing is TAKING ME OUTTTT
I've heard many sororities don't allow the girls to have a job...so you pretty much have to come from money then to afford dues and whatnot
That is not true at all. Most if not all sororities encourage women to seek out job and internship opportunities. During weekly chapter meetings, sororities will discuss opportunities for women to find internships or jobs they know about that are available in their city or university usually.
Ok, Donald
We don't have this in the UK, and the concept is so bonkers
Same in Australia
That one lady at 19 minutes really explained why I don't like them lol. "we need to look inclusive". That to me read "We have to look like we want different people, but we just want rich pretty white women".
No exclusive societies or clubs? Doubtful.
I'm here in Austria and I'm so glad that we don't have that as well.
@@MrsDaedalus_
I wish I was you.
I wanna remake those $12k earrings because I'm pretty sure you can make something identical for like pennies in comparison lol.
ikr they actually looked pretty cute i was like oh nice earrings and then they were over 12k and i was like NEVERMIND i wonder if i can diy something like that haha
@@Eeveecat
Any craft store. I've seen all those pieces at Michaels lol
TK Maxx has dupes everywhere.
Completely off topic but I looove the framed flowers in the background, it’s not my particular style but I think it’s so cool and something I haven’t seen before, usually I see them pressed but you have them sitting there it’s so beautiful and cool and unique imo
Yea. My sorority was a hot mess. They didn't let me recruit and I didn't know until the end of the second day when I asked them straight up. People were telling lies about me about what I would say to non sorority members and living in that house was the worst 7 months of my life. It's really not for everyone, but they are trained to make it seem like a fairytale and ITS SO NOT
The number of people who will drop thousands of dollars on designer COSTUME jewelry is so confusing. You can buy high quality pieces that are solid gold and will last, or you can buy gold plated enamel Hermes...
to me, it makes more sense spending on costume jewelry that looks original and unique, and you can eventually sell and get good money from it than a bag, like 5k in a bag to be sitting on top of dirty places is actually insane. Buying Designer "jewelry" is also crazy, most os them are cheap quality, not at all close to jewelry.
My bestfriend was in a sorority. She denounced at 27. They made it absolutely difficult. She shared with me her full hazing story, as these stories are suppose to stay closed lip because it’s illegal to haze but they still do. Crazy to see these girls dancing/strolling together talking about sisterhood, meanwhile they were forced to fight, water boarded, forced to stay up, degrading and humiliating themselves, and so much worse…I was always creeped out by sororities, but i always been the type to not fall into peer pressure, so the idea of someone telling me to do something crazy that i dont want to do, im not gonna do it just to get into a community. That you also have to pay for !! Paying to get your ahhh beat and call those same girls “sisters” My mom went to join one in the 70s, they said she had to put a bunch of crazy stuff in her hair for the first phase of hazing, my mom said absolutely th not. She was also at VA Tech when a boy died in a river by the school while being hazed… which happens more than youb think…Its also demonic, but thats a whole nother convo in itself. Its the main reason why my friend denounced. But just think about it, everyone go up in arms when ice spice made the devil horn symbol with her hand, but no one bats an eye when a specific sorority uses it!
I was in a sorority. They literally give you a list of specific clothes/brands to buy. I quit when our outfits for Rush was going to be upwards of $500 in 1993 dollars.
16:30 The thing is, the woman who started this trend was doing it AS SATIRE. But coming from the mouths of these women, it feels less like satire and more like they are the thing that was being satirized.
Is it just me or is tiktok "dancing" literally the same as 90% of cheer routines?!
i cannot tell you how perfect this upload time was. Time for my nightly skincare and Isabella time
Oooohhh I love that!!! 👀☺️
What sends me is that the Dior braclet at 11:15 isnt even gold and pearl. it is metal - not even silver! - with a gold finish and a resin pearl.
@@Semaichan shows how it’s only about branding, not even quality
I went to a large southern state school, I was a frat sweetheart on the composite and everything, dated the president of a frat, went to all their events… as a girl who wasn’t in Greek life.
I didn’t join a sorority because I didn’t dress like them or enjoy the same hobbies as a typical sorority member. I never did well holding on to groups of girlfriends (only had one or two close friends for years), and I wasn’t social/ charismatic in the ways those girls usually are. On paper, I was (maybe still am) a total “I’m not like other girls”- I like gross humor, I loved the frat UFC watching parties, I played magic the gathering and DnD, I liked tv shows that, while I know girls in general watch them too, the majority of the audience is male. I got along better with males all my life, being the first girl in my generation on both sides of my family.
But I never flaunted my interests as if I was superior to the sorority girls. I never shit on them for their interests. And a lot times I wanted the type female friendships they had, but was always too nervous to ever try to get my foot in the door with making friends. They intimidated me, because I was insecure of myself and they appeared perfect to me.
In my experience, I’ve had a small number of girls treat me with that passive aggressive “mean girl” niceness, but I’ve met plenty of sorority girls that were just about as sweet as a damn cavity. I mean I met MULTIPLE girls at these events that were absolutely the type to brighten up a room just by walking in it, who were so fun, happy, and wanting to include others- just textbook extroverts with hearts of gold.
The organized dances, the rules, the politics, the PRICE, was, and still is a huge turn off for me. If I ever have a daughter, I really would prefer she didn’t get into Greek life period (I saw a lot of behind the scenes stuff and experienced quite a few scary situations as a direct result of Greek life groups), but I do completely understand why girls still find it fun and desirable. Especially the poor, insecure girls looking for community in an ever distant society. So many of them are kind hearted and well meaning, it’s the few bad apples that turn this community into a contest of the different tiers of houses, the status with the money and clothes, and the absolutely ridiculous expectations.
I don’t like sororities, but sorority girls are some of the kindest and beautiful (inside and out) people I have ever met.
The $700 dress floors me. I didn’t spend that much on my own wedding dress!
I've also noticed on my own campus that girls will diet like crazy. I work on campus and have a good chunk of them dont eat much, and it concerns me at times.
I loved your first Rush video! I'm from Massachusetts so Greek life isn't very popular here so I find it fascinating (and disturbing) at the same time. It's like that Spongebob episode when Squidward goes to that gated community and everybody looks the same 🤣
@@lostgirlcosplay14 🤣🤣🤣
Isabella- you hit the nail on the head! i was in a sorority in college and this + so much more happens behind the scenes. i had no idea going in, and once i found out how gross it really all is, i quit. also the house i joined is one of the big ones in the south and everyone wants to be in that specific chapter so girls would join at other schools and then transfer to like bama since it’s so selective during rush at the big school.
Several of the Bama sororities have dress code rules if you live in the house after you pledge. You are never allowed on the 1st floor of the house unless hair, make-up and outfit are “done” (only 2 of 3 so you can go downstairs without makeup on if you are appropriately dressed and have your hair done)😊
I was in a sorority at my college and I am SO THANKFUL that it was chill. My grandma was in a sorority at LSU and I had my hair dyed cranberry red and she told me I'd have to dye it back to my natural color, I didn't because that's dumb. And then I went to my first house and like 3 girls in the sorority had dyed hair and it was considered "the most sorority-like" out of the four we have lol
As a former sorority girl (go tridelt!) I’m 99% sure we were NOT allowed to get extra money or gifts or anything from a brand at all. ESPECIALLY around recruitment time! Panhellenic is REALLY strict with this kind of stuff so I’m amazed that these sororities are doing brand deals.
Man, things have changed. I was in a sorority from 1983- 1986. We did not have all of this nonsense. We wore regular clothing and participated in service projects. This was in Wisconsin. These young women are missing the point of a sorority. Very sad for them. All of the women in my sorority had part time jobs as well.
@@nightreader1264 agree. I’m in the Midwest and pledged ‘92. This is all crazy. We had 5 houses on campus and none of them acted or did anything like this. We wore clothing similar / same. As in a $30 top with matching $20 shorts. Things like that. Things I would wear forever until they fell apart. We did have fun yes, but philanthropy was a big thing as was scholarship and grades
It’s giving beauty pageant. Like they all look the same, same style, hair, tans. No diversity
Almost like a cult
21:42 This. Cause she was describing the 'Bottom' one and I was like THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEST ONE!
I used to work in brand marketing. I can tell you brands are sending/ gifting products to these girls in sororities.
You dragged mlm within the first minute and I immediately subscribed
The fact that it turns out some, if not all of that $17K outfit girl's stuff may be fake is CRAZY
This is literally the plot to house bunny.
As a non american for the longest time I thought it only happened in movies 😂
University of Alabama has low rankings among the nation’s public universities.
This somehow makes sense in light of this super-boring-rich-kid Greek culture.
I was a part of a Canadian sorority that was probably considered a bottom sorority. Out of all sororities on campus, we were the most diverse, the most accepting of queer and non-binary students (almost all of us were a part of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community). I was sisterhood chair and from what I saw of other orgs we were actually close with each other and friends. We were a small group (~15-20 actives at one time) but I truly felt loved, supported and accepted. I can’t talk for other sororities but from my experience with my sisters, it was amazing and I didn’t have to break my bank to impress them. I legit just had to be myself and make friends. I think that’s what a sorority should be and something that’s been lost admis the desire to show a better status than others.
Everyone having the same exact outfit is very on brand (pun intended) with typical Alabama girls, so if the clips where they're all matching is from a Bama Rush, then I could totally believe they weren't sponsored by the clothing company, but I could also believe it with the drink too. Brand loyalty and being on-trend with brands was something that made me feel like an outcast growing up in Alabama, even going to public schools with mandatory uniform policies. Those little logos and brand signals were everything to so many people.
The culture for white and black sororities are so different like wow. Like in AKA you would never I don't think I've ever in my experience ( as somebody who was up under my grandmother who happened to be in a sorority and all of her sorority friends growing up). Now that could be because I've been around a bunch of older women in these sororities so they're well past this but like what happened to betterment, service, and community
Yeah, my mom is a Delta and it definitely wasn’t like this for her. It was more way more professional but also more relaxed than this, especially since they take lifelong very seriously. But older D9 members have started to complain about the younger lines so I think it’s turning into this, at least at Howard it is.
Yess as a Zeta. Half of the stuff they talk about are so different from my Greek experience!
For sure. I was never part of a sorority myself and am neither white nor black (am Asian Indian), but I did attend a major school in the south (Texas, to be exact) and even I felt such a massive difference in vibes between the white and black sororities. The latter just felt much stronger and more wholesome, and if I'd ever had any interest in rushing back then, I would've strongly preferred that vibe to the mess described in the video.
Divine Nine sororities aren’t like this. (Thank God)
Umm my mom, aunts, etc are all Howard legacies. The D9 is JUST as problematic just in different ways. The AKAs still very much so have a colorism issue and still “discreetly” choose their girls based off if they could pass a brown paper bag test. They try to make it seem like they’re not by ALSO accepting darker-skinned women, but those girl are VERY & I mean VERY pretty & feminine. I’m talking lacefront always laid & flawless makeup everytime they go to class or events & dressed to a T!
There is a running, unspoken joke that most of the Deltas are just girls who weren’t “pretty or light enough” to be an AKA…it’s really disheartening. And it’s not just the girls, there’s competition amongst the men too especially between the Kappas & Q’s. I know several men who were branded but made it seem like their branding was personal like a tattoo instead of fraternity related.
A lot of them still haze underground. I’m in the military with a lot of the men and you’d be surprised how many of them are super loyal to their frats but have severe PTSD from their time during initiation & rush. It’s the same BS but on different levels. I think there is just an air of “I’m better than you” regardless if you’re a white or black sorority or fraternity.
It should also be noted this is more specific to the Pan-Hellenic council or “white sororities” verses the Divine 9 (black Greek orgs) or multicultural orgs
They are in for a rude awakening when they don;t marry someone with money, be married and divorced in two years or their husbands cheating on them.
I went to college in the early 2000s. My dad was in a fraternity in college and loved it and took us to his old frat house once. I never understood the appeal of Greek life. This video basically confirms many of my preconceived notions about sororities.
Sorority alumni here (graduated with 3 years experience) everyones sorority experience is and will be different. And the school plays a HUGE role. These examples are the big mainstream schools and I can’t speak on that experience. My school was a CSU in California with 10,000 students, we had: 3 National sororities, 2/3 national fraternities (one left campus due to low numbers), and multiple multicultural sororities & fraternities. Highest member national sorority size at our school while I was in Greek life was 55 girls. I never saw myself joining a sorority and it took going online and moving away due to Covid for me to join because I wanted that community and friendship. I felt very disconnected from my college and being in the sorority during the online portion of lockdown allowed me to create real bonds with my sisters and then get to have all these friends waiting for me once campus opened back up. My sorority was very very inclusive and so were the other ones on campus! Since we didn’t have houses and much smaller scale events, we had much lower dues. Dues always decrease with time in chapter, mine went from 300$ a month to 95$ a month by my third year in chapter. My mom did pay for half of three payments (helped until i found a job), after that all dues and sorority expenses were on my dime. All of our events, outfits, etc. we had to put the money in or get donations from alumni to pay for because all money we fundraised had to go to our philanthropies, which is what it’s about at the end of the day. For our sorority we always looked for girls who wanted to progress in life, had goals and aspirations, or we saw having a future benefiting the sorority. I’m not saying my experience was perfect, there were definitely moments of frustration and tears shed, but I genuinely enjoyed my time and I don’t think I would’ve been able to make it through college so well without the girls I had with me and the routine sorority gave me. The experiences and memories being in a sorority were very much worth the cost aspect, because I wouldn’t of done any of the things I cherish most about college, like competing and winning our main fraternity on campus’s sweetheart challenge. I got to learn so much about another organization and earn money for their philanthropy, while competing in silly games and making amazing bonds with the boys in the frat. The biggest thing we said in my sorority was “what you put in, is what you get out” 💙 forever an AXID girl, t.f.j 💛
My favorite time of year! When videos about sororities/sorority recruitment comes into the spotlight lol as somebody who is a part of it, it’s still so interesting to me
I find these so amusing because I was in a sorority at a really small uni & my experience was the complete opposite. Rush for me was genuinely very chill, nothing crazy; one of the events I attended was literally just walking around a farmer’s market with an active of a random chapter. We also had no houses, so that helped too. It really just felt like another club on campus to me lmao. But I also recognize that the big state schools are another level & I think social media continues to highlight the negatives of Greek life. There are positive aspects to being apart of it & I wish chapters would focus on pushing their philanthropy rather than another ootd video.
i work at a popular discount store and a lot of people buy the van clerf knock off and it look very similar to the $15000 (or whatever the price was) earrings. im not saying the girl in the video did that but a lot of people buy the dupe when it's at my store and show it off as the real deal.
@@dzholo643 Tjmaxx???
The ideal person for sororities is sadly not new. I pledged in 1994 at UNLV. The girls who got bids were almost all- white, thin, Californian, and elementary education majors. The only difference is social media is bringing attention to the dirty secrets of rush.
I was an active in my sorority from 2015-2017 at a smaller school. Overall I really enjoyed the experience and it gave me a lot of self esteem and connection that I needed in college. I understand that my experience is not the norm. I don't like what Greek life has become - especially the focus on social media and now brand deals!?? That's wild to me.
In Europe we have something similar, but usually mixed gender and very elitist as well, in the European, ‘my father is friends with the king’ way. A while ago, a student of colour died during initiation. Many of the male subgroups within them have some scandals, such as making lists of all female students they concider whores and posting them, chorussing ‘no is yes’ at a party etc. I once went to a party at one where I was told not to wear red pants because that means as a girl you will be taken to a red room where you are basically free real estate for the guys. They would often tell first years to wear red pants, so they wouldn’t know what it signified…
@@cheesecake7274 that's so disturbing.
i will say it’s not like this everywhere. i go to a small university in virginia and we have 6 sororities. there’s like 20-30 girls in them and they don’t do these things. they aren’t sponsored and they don’t do rush. it’s just a very chill & low key recruitment week. they don’t base your membership off looks, money, or your name. i’m so thankful it’s not horrible everywhere (i’m not in greek life so this is an unbiased comment)
I had a roommate in a fraternity last year and his entire TikTok feed the whole year was just different things tied to the frat. He also had to wear a suit jacket and a very specific tie most of the time, was never home before 1 am, was constantly worn out when he WAS in the apartment, and would go to the gym in our complex like 30 minutes after getting home.
I wish him luck as he lives with some of his frat brothers this year.
I can now understand why many people chose not to rush. What I personally observe from videos like these on this topic is that unless you are a blonde, slim bodied, able bodied, white woman who comes from a family that has money…you really don’t stand a chance. Where are women who aren’t white nor blonde in these sorority videos? See what I mean?
Personally…I truly wonder what people really get out of sororities and fraternities except for the fact maybe saying you look a certain way and have money…if it’s really truly about sisterhood or brotherhood and getting to know people…then that can surely be done in so many other ways like common interests, other clubs and gatherings…etc. I think people tend to find someone who you truly would develop meaningful and genuine relationships/friendships with through something you really enjoy doing like hobby or a cause or career that you care about than through fraternities and sororities…
@a1r9a9shi99 it's like paying to have friends lol
I used to watch movies as a kid about how frat and sorority culture was like this, I guess it hasn’t changed which is confusingly gross
I wear sweaters for the exact same reason. I try to convince myself and the weather gods that it is actually fall, but then I go outside and sweat to death lol
for some reason when I was younger I thought frats and sororities were compulsory and was really worried about it
From a UK perspective I cannot tell you how sick and positively dystopian this whole subject is. Nothing about education. All about looks. Everyone looks like the stepoed out of the Barbie movie, not as actors but actual characters. Really this is just mind blowing. What's wrong with the parents of these kids.
This is the absolute extreme of sorority rush. It is wild to watch! I came from a small liberal arts college, and while we had rush, it was so low key. No choreographed dances. No expensive outfits. I’m also not sure if sponsorships are allowed. The Panhellenic Council oversees all sorority recruitment and each college has their own chapter. It’d be interesting to know if they have rules against it.
Love Destinee who does the price breakdowns. She’s so sweet.
This is so interesting to hear your perspective, & read the comments. I was Vice President of Membership for my sorority during my collegiate years, meaning I ran Recruitment. Part of that included me choosing our Recruitment outfits (we all matched, except the final night). This was 20 years ago, so social media was not a part of our Recruitment. My school had 6 sororities, & one definitely had the “rich girls only” vibe. They were predominantly thin white blonde girls, had the highest gpa requirement (there are different gpa requirements to join each sorority), the highest dues, & during Recruitment, they asked my friend about what her dad did for a living & how much he made 😅 My sorority had people from all walks of life - different races, ethnicities, weight classes, socioeconomic classes, etc. There was a monthly “fee” (dues), weekly meetings, & rules you had to adhere to. Someone in another comment mentioned not being allowed to post anything with alcohol, & same. Girls under 21 would get in trouble (& have to go to Standards Committee) if found posting anything with alcohol. Obviously, no drugs or excessive partying, as we do represent the sorority. We also were not allowed to be at fraternity houses past 2am. (Which is when bars typically close) Facebook became a thing when I was in college. It would be interesting to be in college now with social media being what it is. Facebook was brand new, & MySpace on its way out. But it was so different back then.
& yes, there are things we are not supposed to talk about. Anything that is “Ritual”. Someone else commented her friend wouldn’t tell her or her mom certain things. As she shouldn’t have. It’s not like we’re drinking each others blood or anything crazy 😂 but I guess some people find it strange. 🤷🏽♀️ to each their own
Overall, I loved sorority. I still consider myself a sorority woman, & have been active in local alumna chapters. Some of my best friends, I met in sorority.. one being my Lil Sis. & yes, you do have to buy your Big & Lil Sis presents, as someone mentioned, but it sounds crazier than it is (to me). We had a Big/Lil Sis reveal week… we each made each other presents. I made her a different present every day, including a photo album, a pillow, a clipboard.. she made me a Brick & a paddle. I wish I could attach pictures because all 4 of my paddles are absolutely GORGEOUS!
Anyway, thank you for the video. I appreciate hearing different perspectives, & seeing what it’s like at different schools in a different time
Based on your comment I am assuming that we were likely active around the same time, about 20 years ago :D Seem so wild now! I feel like we had a similar experience and I should look up my local Alumni chapter and get involved again. The Big/Little reveal and initiation week were some of the most fun, making and gifting presents for each other. We only got one paddle, from our Big for an initiation gift, but I still have mine on the wall in my office! :)
My favorite event was always Homecoming because it was always around Halloween and I love pomping and making the float for the parade. Seriously, some of the best memories and you're right, I get that ritual can seem odd/scary/weird, but it's not any of that to me, just a set of secrets I hold with thousands of other women across the nation. :D To each their own is a great way to put it.
18:43 I've seen conversations online where people discuss how sorority culture negatively impacts those that aren't an upper middle class cishet white girl
I will say - as far as the outfits go, even at my small midwestern state university, we were required to buy work week and recruitment clothes from certain stores and links were provided up to like... 5 months in advance so you had time to space it out! We were really good though about getting items girls could reuse for years to come and I definitely did!
As an introvert, this is my nightmare. Rushed 30 years ago (yes, I’m old & it was “ the thing to do”), didn’t get in one, such a relief in hindsight sight
My paternal grandmother and my mom were both part of the same sorority, which would have made me a 3rd generation legacy. When i started undergrad, one member spoke with me once before rush and that was it, no effort to convince me to rush or anything (which is fine). I am a bigger person.
My stepsister on my dad's side's only connection is through his mom (her stepgrandma). She is very conventionally attractive. When she started undergrad, that same sorority tried so hard to recruit her as a legacy. The same with my own roommate in undergrad whose mom had been a member.
THANK YOU for doing this video. When I was in College I tried to pledge two different sororities (not straight Greek); One was a music sorority Mu Phi Epsilon, and the other was a Catholic sorority (can't recall their letters right now, that was 22 years ago) but I was not accepted into either. And these were not big Greek ones. I have never been rich, nor have I ever been traditionally pretty and I have never been skinny/ slim. So back then, even at the school I was at with the different types of sororities we had, it was still very much about fitting in with certain people and looks, etc.
why is it that expensive brands make such uuuugly jewelry most of the time and everyone loves it?? how do they keep getting away with it
As someone who “rushed” and was active in my sorority my 4 years of college (2009-2013), I am SO SO SO SO glad that social media wasn’t near like it is now. If I had to use TikTok/snapchat/etc to promote myself, I’d have quit. Facebook was bad enough lol
Luckily, mine was a chapter of a Panhellenic sorority that was way more laid back, and we didn’t have to go out and spend $$$$$ to look the part (and yes, we stood out at events with other chapters of our sorority lol)
Edit to add: letter shirts were the most expensive thing we were encouraged to buy, although we made ours more than spending $40 or so on a tshirt
30k to look like she shopped at Zara Kids...amazing 😂😂😂😂
The pressure on these young women …I cannot imagine how hard it is to be young with social media today.
I also fully acknowledge and agree that some people have an awesome time being in a sorority and truly feel a close connection to the other members BUT the same could be said about MLMs. What matters (in my opinion) is the system itself is not designed for the individual to be successful/happy necessary. It's designed for the organization to have clout and money and status
I actually know a girl from my old high school who I graduated with who went upstate (we’re from Long Island NY) for college, and joined a sorority. She also came from a very well off family….both parents in real estate, and she as well as her siblings were all athletes at least in high school and have always had a lot of money. I think when it comes to these girls having money within their families, and being gifted these accessories….the whole “mommy and daddy’s money” can be hard, because even if their parents did pay for them to have those luxurious items….that’s not the girls’ faults. Most of them never asked to be raised rich they were just brought up into it and for the ones who’ve always remained humble about their upbringings, and how much money they have…..they shouldn’t be “judged” as much. I try to see it as “them having money doesn’t directly and personally affect me, because they don’t know me. Their lives don’t personally and affect me, them having more money than me isn’t their faults it’s based on society as well as our government.”
Ok thanks!
it’s funny, i graduated high school in 2011 and it’s so funny to see all the things that everyone already knew about sorority’s being broadcasted to the world. just interesting
As a former Oregon sorority girl I have to pop in and say they aren’t all like this! The south is a whole other animal
So many sororities are copying the DCC Thunderstruck dance in their intro videos. It drives me nuts. As a former competitive gymnast, cheerleader and dancer, be original. Please. We see it every year and I think it’s unoriginal.
Listening to them talking about being demure while wearing a cocktail dress in the daytime is wild. At least I assume it’s daytime.
I rushed years ago at the University of Washington. It’s nothing like Bama Rush. Even now it’s not like that. I ended up moving to Germany to go to college, so I never joined a sorority. That was more of my dad’s dream for me than my own dream. That’s part of the reason I decided to take the opportunity to be an au pair and study abroad, but I am a Husky at heart. 💜 💛
Girlllll the second the temperature hits 70, my sweaters come out in FULL effect😂
I'm a sorority alum, I absolutely loved my time living in the house and out of house with other sisters, and I'm still friends with many of the girls in my own pledge class and the classes before and after mine. My experience was SO different from all of these discussed in this video. I didn't have any connections to any of the houses, I had zero recommendations, myself and my family are not rich/do not wear designer anything, I'm a curvy gal and had curly brown hair, and I still got invited into a very well respected house. The house I was in was always part of the top 3 houses on campus. There were 14 sorority houses at my University. I am a very personable person and my grades were fantastic and extracurriculars were mid to low compared to other classmates. (I had to support myself so I had a part-time job since I was old enough to work, it took up time for extracurriculars.)
I was active in the 2000s, and I don't know how different it is now at my school, but it was not in the South like Bama. The sponsorships you addressed in your video is WILD. We would have gotten in SO much trouble for that, like fines and threats of losing our charter depending on the severity. You nailed it when you said sponsorships create uneven playing field, and that's exactly why they weren't allowed. I'm so glad TikTok wasn't a thing back then, and Facebook was "The Facebook" and it opened up for my Univ after Sorority Rush already happened for me. During my time I was the Song Leader for one year and I served as our Recruitment Chair for 2 years. We did have different themes/colors everyday but we never had to all buy exact matching anything. We wanted people to be comfortable and show how they interpret the theme/color.
I would not be surprised if there is some sort of fine in place from the National Panhellenic Council for houses taking sponsorships, but these sororities are probably just putting out the content and then paying the fine. Once the toothpaste has been squeezed out of the tube it's nearly impossible to get it back in... so to speak. And if they are spending tens of thousands of dollars on outfits for Rush, then I would bet money to pay a fine is no issue and they likely have super rich Alumni donors. Or maybe the rules are different now? This is all just speculation on my part, I haven't been actively participating as an Alum for my house for years, no particular reason but I just moved cities and life happened. If they reached out and asked me to help with something would gladly help however I could.
I love that it’s becoming more acceptable to talk about vibrators 😅 I know that has nothing to do with the main video but I love that we as women don’t have to pretend to not be sexual beings 😊I love your channel even more now!