Just like making the jaws flop where the shark doesn't eat the ball, there's no harpoon gun shooting at a shark and no underwater playfield. They like to ignore fun ideas...
I'm thinking possibly this will be fixed later in the code. Like in the Jaws Pinball, the art package only showed Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfuss but not Roy Scheider until he was on LCD screen. Also didn't the art package for James Bond have the posters of the films he was in, and he had a gun on those? Maybe it was only for that pin specifically.
Barely even see a gun. Besides the tiny ones in the hidden gun crate... apparently horse riding and the Continental as well as well as stainless steel ramps are what's really what we wanted!!!
we don't want the shark to eat the ball. it slows down competitive play (like Adam's Family THING lock) and those mechs always break or never work right (i.e. Stranger Things)
@hitoriwa rofl, you can't be very competitive. Or have clearly never played a jaws. Every single feature on jaws slows down the play. The long slow movie scene that can't be skipped. The post on inlanes that keeps trapping ball. Ability to trap ball on side flipper. Every single person I have met wanted the shark to eat the balls. Rolling through a subway and ejector would take literally 1 second.....
So I wasn't going to say anything about the lack of guns in the game. I noticed it but wasn't going to say it. Then I also noticed that you specifically used absolutely no footage of him using a gun from any of the films. Which tells me you're painfully aware of their absence and decided not to use any footage of him using guns because it would be putting a magnifying glass on the existence of a weakness of this game that you are more than aware of. I love you guys and I love your games but you have to do better than this for the money you're asking for these.
Stern made a Ford Mustang pinball machine right? It seems like a miss more for Ford than Stern than they couldn’t extend that license so it could be more than “John Wick’s Muscle Car” here. Still though, the Charger gunfight scene is 11/10.
Not gonna lie the weapons crate looks really cheap but everything else looks pretty dope. But how can you make a pinball about 4 movies of John Wick and have him holding a sword and a numchuck and Not one gun in any art at all?? Seems really stupid. What's next? A Punisher Pin where he uses a carrot to fight?
I love me some Gomez but i dont like to imagine bad dudes getting their brains beat out with nunchucks. Thats just gross Stern. Wick made clean kills with guns.
assets from all films? the theme is john wick and not 1 gun is on this thing...... was going to pre order but not when you miss the entire theme this would be like buying jurassic park with no dinosaurs....
If the reason they didn't put something like a gun trigger on this game because they're trying to shield our kids from the scary scary world, I have to say I'm pretty damn disappointed in our society. Who really knows what the real reason is, but if it's because of this ridiculous PC coddled world we live in, I just want to say, I GREW UP SQUEEZING THE GUNS ON LETHAL WEAPON AND INDY AND I TURNED OUT FINE STERN!!!!!!
Hats off to the designer that took up the challenge to design the table without using the main ingredient of the entire film series, unfortunately it wont get my money this time around. Really disappointed.
This might be the worst game you've ever made. John Wick isn't even featured on the LE like huh? No guns then why did you agree to make this theme? The artwork is terrible. All the mechs are totally pointless. Wow what a disaster. This game isn't worth 13k and my guess is you won't sell half that number. This game I'm betting sells worse than Venom despite the cool theme. Stern you've really lost your way.
I agree with you on everything, doesn't appeal to me but Wick is all over the LE? you can't see one of the sides but he's posing with a sword on the back glass and on the PF 2x at least. And ya a car diverter and his trunk is not awe inspiring eh. Also, Venom is amazing. I can't speak for sales but it's 10x better than Bond
both of you are on it. this looks like trash. what a joke. nothing new to bring to the hobby, if it was my first table I would have brought a fresh idea that's been nagging at me for years not a fan layout with nothing new. wouldn't hate on Stern though.. Jaws, Venom and Foo were all amazing. Just need to get back to an experienced designer.
Its pretty smart for stern to start future proofing the business. The local arcade in town already bought 2 John Wicks before the trailer even came out. Hopefully this is a move away from the home market. The next generation of pinball players won't be able to afford houses, which means we need to go back to an operator's market or the hobby will be dead(again) by 2050.
@@redrum3r why would you care if the hobby is alive if there are shitty machines being put out? just curious why a real enthusiast would care about routes. isn't this about making the best machines possible? I for one would like them to increase the price and quality and move this market to strictly huo. why are we thinking about the plebs?
Wow, i was looking forward to this, but it looks terrible. The cabinet art is especially bad. The color scheme is a disaster. What a giant failure of an IP with so much potential.
The voice of winston is awesome on the pinball. I would have wanted a better looking muscle car tho. It s one of the forte of john wick , it s too bad that it looks way worse than my sons hot wheels. Nevertheless i m really glad stern released this pinball i want to know more about it !
I also need to compensate for "things" so I am very mad that this expensive toy that will go in arcades and homes with children doesn't have actual pistols strapped to it and videos of puppies getting murdered in modes. First Jaws doesn't have anyone getting eaten and I don't have to play it while trying to float in the ocean, Rush didn't even have lines of coke in the art, and games don't have bikini babes in with ridiculous chests plastered all over them anymore... It's the death of pinball.
@@sternpinballinc I know it's not as easy or fun, but it'd be nice to see some responses to questions or comments that aren't all overwhelmingly positive. It kind of looks like echo chamber interaction if you don't. No need to respond to openly aggressive trolling, but there are some of us who have legitimate questions or criticism. You do you, but I think it's a better look than the popular girl who only talks to people who tell her how pretty she is no matter what.
Not caring a bit about connecting with the theme. Why i don't even care when someone says hey sterns got a new pin coming out. Smh.. more worried about tracking your pinball playing habits, than giving total effort and respect to theme and customers, like libs. Everyware, they know whats best. Johnny can't be seen with scary guns, let put a dress on him and call this one Joan Wick!!
I had been in on this theme as a potential buy, but no guns and mediocre design by the new guy, sorry not a take my money buy. I'll keep playing my Jaws LE.
All of the joking and criticism aside for no guns... I think the playfield and toys look very fun and refreshing vs the last two stale and safe releases....
Yea this looks Sad compared to Godfather. No guns ? Was the a pr move to please people who wont even but this or is stern just losing there touch. Jaws was to blah looking, plays real well, but didn't like the art. This looks kind of ugly. Unless this plays great Stern needs to stop making so many and just rmake better pins.
No one ever: Wouldn't it be hilarious if someone made a John Wick pin with NO GUNS IN IT?!
STERN: Hold my beer
Was wondering if I was the only one to *not* see this? Hmm, either choice by artist or some kind of rule/law in Chicago or California?
@@JoeMama1142 Like the guns on the last CHICAGO gaming Company? PULP FICTION?
I'm just hoping to find a reason other than "we're incredibly stupid and hope you are too because we want your money"
Just like making the jaws flop where the shark doesn't eat the ball, there's no harpoon gun shooting at a shark and no underwater playfield. They like to ignore fun ideas...
I'm thinking possibly this will be fixed later in the code. Like in the Jaws Pinball, the art package only showed Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfuss but not Roy Scheider until he was on LCD screen.
Also didn't the art package for James Bond have the posters of the films he was in, and he had a gun on those? Maybe it was only for that pin specifically.
Where’s the killing and guns? If two people don’t die on ball launch it’s not a John Wick game.
John Woke! :D
Ya I couldn't agree more! This guy killed more people than COVID and no guns?! Epic FAIL!
Barely even see a gun. Besides the tiny ones in the hidden gun crate... apparently horse riding and the Continental as well as well as stainless steel ramps are what's really what we wanted!!!
Ask blackrock
True statements
We are going to theme our machine off Guns and Death but remove all the guns and death.
So a John Wick game with no guns, yup that makes sense. It's like making Jaws with no shark. Foo Fighters with no music. WTF.
No guns no buy
I hear Stern is making a Chicago Bulls pinball next, no Michael Jordan in it, though. 😂
The car doesn't do anything on the pro edition?
They do that with many of the pros, such as removing the movement feature or removing the toy and replacing it with a plastic cutout.
Love how the sticker has fallen off the left target already. Stern is great. 😅
No guns?
Jaws. Shark doesnt eat the ball.
John Wick. No guns.
😐
Shits going downhill quick
Stern had gotten silver balls cheap
we don't want the shark to eat the ball. it slows down competitive play (like Adam's Family THING lock) and those mechs always break or never work right (i.e. Stranger Things)
@hitoriwa rofl, you can't be very competitive. Or have clearly never played a jaws. Every single feature on jaws slows down the play. The long slow movie scene that can't be skipped. The post on inlanes that keeps trapping ball. Ability to trap ball on side flipper. Every single person I have met wanted the shark to eat the balls. Rolling through a subway and ejector would take literally 1 second.....
@@JackpotMike77 you're a very angry person
Is this the G rated version for families with toddlers?
Awesome looking table!
Thanks!
Why are there no guns???
Stern won't answer, shocking! They only comment if you praise the pinball.
@@jayman4911 I guess Lionsgate who owns the movies demanded it. A Stern artist or something confirmed it in an interview.
@@willmac623 lame!
this game needs a gun plunger and more gun bash toys on the play field
So I wasn't going to say anything about the lack of guns in the game. I noticed it but wasn't going to say it. Then I also noticed that you specifically used absolutely no footage of him using a gun from any of the films. Which tells me you're painfully aware of their absence and decided not to use any footage of him using guns because it would be putting a magnifying glass on the existence of a weakness of this game that you are more than aware of. I love you guys and I love your games but you have to do better than this for the money you're asking for these.
Well said.
I was on board at first glance. Can’t pull the trigger now with no guns.
No guns?! LOLLLZZZZZ 👎 Is Wick wearing high heels, too?
It looks cool but where’s the guns?
are the toys (car, blood oath) only in the premium version or all versions?
One of the SWEETEST tables that I've ever seen! Of course, I've been out of true Pinball since the 80's but LOVE Android versions!
Stern made a Ford Mustang pinball machine right? It seems like a miss more for Ford than Stern than they couldn’t extend that license so it could be more than “John Wick’s Muscle Car” here. Still though, the Charger gunfight scene is 11/10.
We dreamed of a John Wick with fiery boom sticks. Lots of them, walls of them, chests full of them. Sorry you did not deliver my dreams.
Im not a smoker, but i would be hittin cigars and whiskey while indulging in these machines.
Cool mechs but I was really hoping you'd find a way to implement the Dr. Who finger removal mech.
It's really cool to see Tim get to be a table designer. He's come a long way since he did the code for Iron Maiden.
He is not the table designer. He is the lead coder. Elliot Eismin is the table designer.
Not gonna lie the weapons crate looks really cheap but everything else looks pretty dope. But how can you make a pinball about 4 movies of John Wick and have him holding a sword and a numchuck and Not one gun in any art at all??
Seems really stupid. What's next? A Punisher Pin where he uses a carrot to fight?
I love me some Gomez but i dont like to imagine bad dudes getting their brains beat out with nunchucks. Thats just gross Stern. Wick made clean kills with guns.
To be fair, I wouldn’t call his kills clean. Wick had to shoot most of his foes several times before they died.
Omg! How could you make this pinball without guns? This will be a disaster for stern! 😢
I've never seen a john wick movie but the game looks cool
You're missing out
check them out!!!
@@sternpinballinc i would suggest you do to since you're releasing this game.... missed the theme completely
Sneaking in the pencil was a nice touch! This looks like a lot of fun.
A blast for sure!
John Wick movies are all about the fight scenes and lots of shooting. Is there any of that here? What am I missing or did you mis? Just sayin.
John Woke
Its a great machine and if you play one you dont care about the guns missing. Awesome game. I bought the pro.
lots of cool things going on here, looking forward to seeing more!
What's the thought process in not including guns? Why make a John Wick pinball machine and not include guns? It doesn't make sense.
Price increase?
Haha! Not today! Wait for Metallica for 15K! This looks very good though! Can't wait to get a premium for 8k!
A lot of these new games are starting to become to similar when put side by side. 90s games seemed more unique.
No guns???? How do you make a John Wick game without guns? Dont tell me stern is going woke now too. Was going to get an LE too now I'll pass.
Loved hearing directly from George and Tim, well done!
No guns? Lame.
assets from all films? the theme is john wick and not 1 gun is on this thing...... was going to pre order but not when you miss the entire theme
this would be like buying jurassic park with no dinosaurs....
Why cant u make the le an adult edition with guns and violence?? I get pros for public locations but cmon. Im out.
agree 100% they could add guns to the premium/LE versions and sell the kiddy friendly ones in pro version without guns
Looks like a ton of fun!
Wow, the clear coat on stern games is always a let down. Look at that orange peel rough finish on that playfield.....
Super excited for a John Wick game! Looks like it could be fun and I like the details of the crate opening or the finger prints on the marker!
If the reason they didn't put something like a gun trigger on this game because they're trying to shield our kids from the scary scary world, I have to say I'm pretty damn disappointed in our society. Who really knows what the real reason is, but if it's because of this ridiculous PC coddled world we live in, I just want to say, I GREW UP SQUEEZING THE GUNS ON LETHAL WEAPON AND INDY AND I TURNED OUT FINE STERN!!!!!!
this times a million- the old Terminator pinball has a gun plunger and James Bond has guns = Stern went woke and makes crap now
Do Dragon's Lair next! based on the game by Don Bluth 1983
Designed by Gomez? Update: Designed by Tim Sexton, apologies
Definitely want to give it a shot, looks like it has some interesting mechs
It does! Give it a go when you can!
"Award winning" Who is handing out these awards?
Stern. Please explain the seemingly purposeful decision to not show guns in this title. Thank you.
Swing and a miss......
There looks like a lot of fun elements to this one! Bravo Tim!
Tim is the coder, not the designer. Elliot Eismin is
I think Stern should send me one of these so I can beta test for them.
oh really now
@sternpinballinc yes yes, really. I got your back on shipping 😏
No dogs were harmed in the making of this pin.
Can confirm
I think Stern is quickly cementing themselves as the GOATs. Can't wait to play it!
warmed our hearts.
Hats off to the designer that took up the challenge to design the table without using the main ingredient of the entire film series, unfortunately it wont get my money this time around. Really disappointed.
😂we wanted Matrix,😂
Ikr kinda a niche theme for a stern but I’m sure it will be fun to play
That's JJP, right?
3 Different Pinball Machines
Great design, even the pro.
Very cool, I've heard of this movie
Where is Masters of the universe pinball table ?
He-Man wouldn't be in it! 😂
Stoked to try it at NWPAS
Same here! They might have it at Next Level in Hillsboro within the next few weeks.
So the difference between pro and LE is different side art and... Lights?...
Pro edition still looks pretty beefy compared to past models.
So the pro has all the mechs stripped out? The car, the crate and the fingerprint thing. Lol. No no no.
No thanks! Maybe you can replace Keanu with Dylan Mulvaney in the next code update! You guys really hit the s#itter on this one.
This might be the worst game you've ever made. John Wick isn't even featured on the LE like huh? No guns then why did you agree to make this theme? The artwork is terrible. All the mechs are totally pointless. Wow what a disaster. This game isn't worth 13k and my guess is you won't sell half that number. This game I'm betting sells worse than Venom despite the cool theme. Stern you've really lost your way.
I agree with you on everything, doesn't appeal to me but Wick is all over the LE? you can't see one of the sides but he's posing with a sword on the back glass and on the PF 2x at least. And ya a car diverter and his trunk is not awe inspiring eh.
Also, Venom is amazing. I can't speak for sales but it's 10x better than Bond
both of you are on it. this looks like trash. what a joke. nothing new to bring to the hobby, if it was my first table I would have brought a fresh idea that's been nagging at me for years not a fan layout with nothing new. wouldn't hate on Stern though.. Jaws, Venom and Foo were all amazing. Just need to get back to an experienced designer.
Its pretty smart for stern to start future proofing the business. The local arcade in town already bought 2 John Wicks before the trailer even came out. Hopefully this is a move away from the home market. The next generation of pinball players won't be able to afford houses, which means we need to go back to an operator's market or the hobby will be dead(again) by 2050.
@@redrum3r why would you care if the hobby is alive if there are shitty machines being put out? just curious why a real enthusiast would care about routes. isn't this about making the best machines possible? I for one would like them to increase the price and quality and move this market to strictly huo. why are we thinking about the plebs?
@@cleanandlevel Sarcasm ..... right ??
I can't wait to play
Let us know when you do!
I'll hopefully get get to play when it comes to Free play Rhode Island
I got to play the game last night it was awesome!
Wow, i was looking forward to this, but it looks terrible. The cabinet art is especially bad. The color scheme is a disaster. What a giant failure of an IP with so much potential.
I am going to replace the shooter knob with a 3d printed #2 pencil, lol
Looks like a lo top fun. Looking forward to trying this one out.
When I say wow I don’t think my definition is in the dictionary. Beautifully done game and I can’t wait to get my hands on one!!!
Is that Keanu Reeves in the art or as any of the voices? It looks like it may be "inspired" as that voice over awkwardly announced.
and no guns ruins the game
2 scoops?? guys... I thought we moved past this. get rid of the scoops and pops they just waste time. weak release indeed.
The voice of winston is awesome on the pinball. I would have wanted a better looking muscle car tho. It s one of the forte of john wick , it s too bad that it looks way worse than my sons hot wheels. Nevertheless i m really glad stern released this pinball i want to know more about it !
it needs guns that alone ruins the game without as Wick is guns
Why no guns? John Wick without guns in his hands is a easy pass for me
Also the fact that is just a fan layout. Next...
oh noooooooooo 😢
Well I was on board for one at first glance. Can’t pull the trigger now with no guns.
I also need to compensate for "things" so I am very mad that this expensive toy that will go in arcades and homes with children doesn't have actual pistols strapped to it and videos of puppies getting murdered in modes. First Jaws doesn't have anyone getting eaten and I don't have to play it while trying to float in the ocean, Rush didn't even have lines of coke in the art, and games don't have bikini babes in with ridiculous chests plastered all over them anymore... It's the death of pinball.
Will be a blast to play I am sure!
100%
@@sternpinballinc I know it's not as easy or fun, but it'd be nice to see some responses to questions or comments that aren't all overwhelmingly positive. It kind of looks like echo chamber interaction if you don't. No need to respond to openly aggressive trolling, but there are some of us who have legitimate questions or criticism.
You do you, but I think it's a better look than the popular girl who only talks to people who tell her how pretty she is no matter what.
Yo George!🤘
I can't wait to play it!
Man, there's a lot of bitching in these comments from people who have never played the game. Looks good to me. As always, code is key.
This looks great. Shout out to George. Thank you for making my two favourite pins, 007 and Deadpool.
Not caring a bit about connecting with the theme. Why i don't even care when someone says hey sterns got a new pin coming out. Smh.. more worried about tracking your pinball playing habits, than giving total effort and respect to theme and customers, like libs. Everyware, they know whats best. Johnny can't be seen with scary guns, let put a dress on him and call this one Joan Wick!!
I already know all the secrets!
do ya???
@@sternpinballinc my friends want to know if the car moves on all models?
WICK RANK
Does Keanu Reeves do any callouts on this game???
no
@@lobo2k you've got to be kidding me...
Feel like it’s missing something
3rd flipper
I had been in on this theme as a potential buy, but no guns and mediocre design by the new guy, sorry not a take my money buy. I'll keep playing my Jaws LE.
😮🎉🎉❤
Yeah... I'm going to pass on app notifications. Ugh.
I was expecting no guns, but where are the DOGS!?
Dogs are on the slings.
@@BrownDogPinball Ah, there they are. Good catch.
Every coin is going in here.
Every single one?
John Woke 🤮
Holy crap this looks like you guys knocked it out of the park! Are you guys not showing the shooter ride for the LE? Or does it not come with one: (
This game is way too violent. Could you please tone it down? It’s giving me anxiety
All of the joking and criticism aside for no guns... I think the playfield and toys look very fun and refreshing vs the last two stale and safe releases....
Yea this looks Sad compared to Godfather. No guns ?
Was the a pr move to please people who wont even but this or is stern just losing there touch.
Jaws was to blah looking, plays real well, but didn't like the art. This looks kind of ugly.
Unless this plays great Stern needs to stop making so many and just rmake better pins.
Weak release 😂
Looks sick, I’m in.