Would definitely be an interesting fight if they have Tai Lung fight with Po against Shen and Kai, instead of breaking character with those two villains.
@@Zack_Zander Tai Lung would've had reason to ally against Kai, seeing as the yak had stolen his chi as well...that is, if Kai was even canonically supposed to be present in the first place. Kai was already dead in the 3rd movie, Po destroyed Kai's soul itself. When all that remains is your soul, and _that_ gets destroyed, there's nothing else left. And Shen might know that it was always his own fault for his demise. With all that in mind... Tai Lung: Respect Shen: Revenge or Resignation Kai: Soul got erased from existence, therefore, cannot even be there in the first place
This scene was a big „Fuck You“ to Kung Fu Panda 2. I can still understand a bit the other Villains bowing to Po. But Lord fcking Shen would never do that. After killing Po‘s Mother, whipping all the pandas out burning panda villages…DreamWorks killed its own legacy
You have to remember the talk po had with him before he died, he was talking with lord shen about letting the past go, but he was furious in the moment, how could he just let go after all that, but he probably came to a realization in the spirit realm and respects po now
I buy him willingly going back to the spirit realm based on that look at the expression on his face at the end of his fight with Po, but him bowing to him is so stupid
Shen's death was his redeeming act. He closed his eyes, reflected and regretted his actions before the cannon fell to him. He made peace with himself at the last moment.
They could have launched a revenge to Po if they want to, but considering that Po has gotten stronger and stronger since the last time they fought him…. Yeah I think it’s best if they just return to the spirit realm and not repeat history
@@icydazo6417 yeah that’s true imagine of kung fu panda had a villain that’s so hard to defeat and hard to take down kind of like Frieza from Dragon Ball Z he was one powerful villain and the most evil of them all
I don’t think Tai Lung would of, I mean he clearly had a lot of time to think in spirit realm and was never truly a villain. The others though especially Kai and Shen, that was out of character what they did.
Trust me, I'm on the hate-wagon so far for this movie, but Shen actually does make some sense. In Shen's last moment before being destroyed by the falling cannon, he closed his eyes and his expression changed, all to one of acceptance. He accepted his death, and no doubt came to realize in death that the "Warrior of black and white" was quite likely him the whole time. One is often their own worst enemy, and those who attempt to change their fate only served to guarantee it whenever prophecies are concerned. _He_ decided to attempt a genocide on all pandas. That was _his_ decision, and look where that led him? One of the very ones he attempted to kill to prevent that future came to stop him, which wouldn't have happened in the first place if he hadn't gone genocidal. And remember, Po never did land any killing blow. Everything about his downfall was set in motion because of his own actions, no one else.
Its out of character because the narration to transform shen to that is missing. Its like cooking a pizza, but it only shows spinning the dough, then comes pizza.
@@allegrolaro4727 The people behind Kung Fu Panda, at least for the original 3 movies, use a lot of symbolism that is often seen more easily in later viewings. Like, when Shen dies you likely don't think to hard to realize the face acceptance, you're just trying to watch it all for the first time and are too engrossed in learning what's going on. Not everything in media has to be explicitly stated for people via some flashback or something, and that's what bugs me about a lot of movies lately. They baby to the viewers as if we're stupid and can't figure things out ourselves, not giving people a chance to use any problem-solving/deduction skills to discover it ourselves.
@@scorchingradiance7605 also right, he had goku's skills, but also made a few of his own, unlike Chameleon who just mimicks everyone move Edit: she actually had her own skills, but still, Goku black's better
You have NO idea what might have gone on in the spirit world for him. Perhaps he found enlightenment, or just had enough time to reflect on his actions. Just because he went back doesn't mean he acknowledged Po. It could simply mean that he knows his place is in the spirit realm now
@@Disneyfan82 Shen can make some sense, to get humbled. After all, when the cannon was about to fall on him, he closed his eyes as he accepted his fate, with the realization that the warrior who was the source of his demise was himself (after all, one is often their own worst enemy). Tai Lung most certainly makes sense for deciding to go back, as he has had the time to reflect on his own actions in death, and to accept that he never was meant to become the Dragon Warrior (I'd wager he probably encountered Oogway there at some point and the two talked, with Oogway pulling an Uncle Iroh). But um...wasn't Kai...you know... _destroyed_ though? Like, the dude was already a spirit, and his spirit body was overloaded to the point of literally exploding from all the chi being forced into him, so Kai's entire existence should be completely destroyed in every capacity, meaning there should be canonically no way for Chameleon to even be able to get his chi. _That,_ along with the disregard of Po having already achieved inner peace during the second movie, is where the justifiable hate comes from. It's disregarding both Po's lesson in the second movie, and Kai's entire soul being destroyed in the third.
@@legobrick1356so the person who killed themself not to loss and genosided a entire villige would get peace . This is like adolf hittler holding a gun and deciding to leave the jewish leader alone becuse he lost ww2 It just a cash grab . Your thinking to hard and they didnt want to pay the voice actor
Here’s the thing, a lot of us can buy Tai lung redeeming himself and returning to the spirit realm, and I’ve come around to Shen wanting to return, because of him accepting his fate in the second movie, but why in the living spirit realm does Kai just go willfully, and while we’re at it, how is in the spirit realm in the first place when he was basically eviserated in spirit form making him basically double dead
I cried for Tai Lung. The dude had his dream stolen for him just to die to a panda, and then he got revived just to watch someone else steal his dream from it again
I think the spirit realm mellowed them out. Plus, they don’t have to like Po, but they can still be thankful that he saved them from the chameleon and allowed them to return to rest once more. “We had our time in the mortal realm. We’re going back to our inner peace now.”
Yea I think kai was clinging on to anger for 500 years but when he got his ass beat and probably became much weaker he decided it wasn't worth the fight
In other words, Do you want to know what your big mistake was chameleon? Po: Its that stolen body!... Every muscle, every cell!! There bodies were built on a life time of intense battles and training! But you took it, Its all second hand! You have the power of those warriors cells but you dont truly understand it because you didn't build it! And you'll never learn how to think like them.
Kai and Shen wouldn't have wanted to return to the spirit realm cos they didn't want to be there in the first place! The movie's just trash cos of that fr
Kai got put in his place at the end of the third movie though, he knows that he can’t win over the world. It was the same case for Shen at the end of the second movie.
Here's a theory. For ppl mad at shen bowing lets rewind. When shen died he accepted his fate didmt fight back just let it happen. I'm guessing his time in the spirit realm he found peace within himself. When chameleon brought him back and po bonked the chameleon Shen shouldn't feel amy resentment if he found his peace during his time in the realm so he oays his respect by bowing
Nah Shen found his peace I understand he would go back to the realm but bowing to Po is no way. Is like saying Hitler accepted defeat then he would bow down to the rusia. Shen freaking commit mass genocide to pandas and his aim was to conquer the whole china. Ain't no way dude gonna bow down to his former enemy
I can understand for Kai and Tai long but why should Shen go back there I mean this short look like it was only over tai long go back but just remember how Chen’s was it was not to grab control over china but it was like a personal affair between him and po
@@BookofAaron ok but self there was like 15 villains impossible they all wanted to go back and Kai don’t accepted or get his revenge he they all almost got no reason to come back seriously
@@Smilinggiyuuyeah that make no sens that almost every of his enemies just go back like they were pets I mean come on like grab Kai the guy passed 500 in this realm getting chi to Get away and destroy Ogway legacy but Nah he just goes back there like a pet go back to his cage what was that man
I kinda loved the fact that the movie showed po as a wise man who instead of supposedly getting played by zhen he faked it all to help her grow into the new dragon warrior because the whole final fight was fake especially considering all he did was hit her once easily showing that the whole time po was in control (my personal opinion on the story)
I mentioned this to a friend, my beef with the series was that Po always seemed to lose to everyone even though he’s supposed to be a master. This was the first time I felt just how superior he actually is.
Po would have already one shotted chamelion anytime except the giant chamelion , she would have lasted a minute and lose but other forms would have been owned by po within seconds if po went serious cuz of that staff magic , the only reason he played with chamelion cuz he wanted zhen to gain confidence and abilities
Shen be like:- Oh I am Shen, I killed your parents, destroyed you emotionally nearly killed you 3 times But now I respect you I mean Wh...What the .. fu*k is that
I think that's one of the reasons I didn't like KFP4 that much,, at least one of those villains could have escaped or at least done something evil.. .they didn't want to be in the spirit realm in the first place so why return when you've got the chance to be evil again??
Me too but the saddest thing is they don’t give a reason like we find enlightment or something they just go back like just do the movie stay so short as he already is there was really no but no reason for them to go back there especially Shen knowing that for him it was like a personal affair between him and po
The movie showed zero respect towards the previous ones, i would kinda understand tai lung showing respect to po because he wasnt really evil, but shen and kai? No way in hell that those two would do this, kai spent 500 YEARS trying to escape the spirit realm, it is completely stupid to make him want to go back like nothing from the previous movie happened aside from the fact that he shouldnt even exist cause he blew up, and shen never liked po during all the second movie, makes no sense why he would have respect for him now
This would have felt repetitive cuz they already got beaten by a worse version of po , right now they would be one shotted Also there is a rule that dead guys cannot enter to earth realm for long time especially with their free wills
Tai Lung now sees Po as worthy of the staff of wisdom (and as the dragon warrior) Lord Shen had accepted his death at the end of Kung Fu Panda 2 and may have found peace (He still could be bowing reluctantly though) Kai already lost to Po and understands that it would be pointless to seek revenge
Because they still understand the need of balance. Culture is still important to them and that’s what I appreciated about that moment. It was respected.
Is it just me who remembers how Kai was defeated at the end of the last movie or no? Because I’m still scratching my head just trying to understand how on Earth did he come back FROM the spirit realm
EXACTLY!! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! His spirit was *literally* destroyed, there's no coming back from having your soul itself being destroyed, that's a perma-death of the highest degree.
@@legobrick1356 there is no thing as double death in spirit realm, when Kai exploded , he only got disappeared for some years maybe but came back cuz if second time death is an option in spirit realm then Kai would have killed everyone in spirit realm
All the villains learned a lesson, and finally got peace in the spirit realm after getting rid of the inner sufferings and emotional instability they had in the mortal realm
He’s probably one of the only villains who didn’t have actual chi, yet also the only villain who had enough skill to give Po a crazy tough fight in the 2nd movie.
And what benefits will she get from that , and also without memories what will they all do by the way , this doesn't work good for kung fu movies tho especially those with only 1 hour durations
Shen respecting po now really is quite the treat, after all shen hate the pandas, since it was foreshadowed by fate that he will lose to one, after po won the fight and had the talk with shen about letting the past go, shen may had time to think in the spirit world and may have realized po had a point
Tai lung: Now who will save you big guy? Kai: This time i'll take your chi...... dragon warrior.. Shen: greeting panda we meet again ,i will make sure to kill you..... Plot: All of you guys bow and return back Villans :ok...🤡 This this the reason...... 😎
It would have been cool if all the villains teamed up against Po to take revenge on him in a huge final battle or another movie like a Kung Fu Panda 4 part 2 or something. Another thing that could have been cool is if Tai Lung and Po had to team up to defeat the Chameleon.
I get why everyone bowed to po because for shen the reason why he wanted to kill all the pandas is because he didn't want to die from them but when he saw po having inner peace I think he respected po for that, for tai lung we have to remember that shifu was the one to try to make him be the dragon warrior and he felt he was obligated to be it, and for kai i feel like he is the type of person to respeact whoever beats him in a fight
They should have done this instead :- After chameleon is defeated, she plays her last trap by releasing all the villains. And it turns out, they are the same. All of them want revenge and after Po is defeated by all the villains from Po's past they start their rampage on the cities and try controling it. Lord Shen and Kai teams up. But Tai Lung knows that this is wrong but still decides to team up to show how great he is and why he was a GREAT choice for becoming the Dragon Warrior. And the movie ends there with a cliffhanger. Kung Fu Panda 5 will cover the next Dragon Warrior's training and Tai Lung accepting his fate with Po and they team at the end of the first half and decide to send everyone back to the place they deserve, Spirit realm. And then they continue to fight and defeat the villains and then they send them to the spirit realm. Then finally, Tai Lung shakes his hand with Po before punching him to the ground as a joke and leaves to the Spirit Realm. How is it?
Lord Shen bowing down to Po as respect for doing something good to him, is like seeing Lord DIO bow down to Jonathan as respect for doing something good to him. *They would never bow down even to those who showed them mercy.*
Kai didn't even have any beef with Po bro just wanted chi. But lord Shen? "Hey Po it's me Shen! Remember when I killed your mother and wiped out your entire race because I was scared? Yeah I'm a good guy now so we're good right? Po?"
For those saying "Shens character was disrespected" please remember the entire reason that he killed off the pandas was to makes sure his doom didnt come to pass, its called character development he lost and also saw the power that Po had with inner peace, coming to peace in the spirit realm with other people Po had defeated would definitely have an impact on Shens character
I really wish Tai Lung had stayed in the mortal realm, and became the Dragon Warrior successor. It would’ve been the perfect redemption arc for him, and it’d explain why Oogway couldn’t see him becoming the Dragon Warrior… because he had to die to fulfill his dream.
im not really mad over the fact that all the villains bowed to po because I understand and agree with the take. after being a villain and getting sent to the spirit realm, it changes you and makes you realize what you did when you were alive wasn't right. i understood this trope when they did it in tmnt 2012 with shredder.
I have a theory, so the golden light shiny from kai shen and tai lung is the spirit realms chi that turned them good when they went there, oogway taught them to be good, including shen, so thats why they’re all budy budy now, because they turned good, like oogway did when kai stayed evil, and yes kai was reduced to nothing, but he still is in the spirit realm because when u die, u go to the spirit realm, the chameleon had been defeated and now everyone gives respect to po because he prove himself worthy, even tho that shen killed po’s family, he still gave respect to po for saving their souls. I rest my case
Dragon warrior is supposed to be the next generation, like passing of torch And also tai lung is technically dead so it would be weird to make a dead guy dragon warrior
everyones talking about shen bowing to po but what im more concerned about is how the hell Kai is still alive. shouldnt his body been like, i dont know, completely disintegrated? seeing as though pos chi was enough for him to blow up inside the spirit realm as well, so hes just long gone but nope, gotta bring him back for the money huh dreamworks?
I think of it more something like a spin off movie. Its ok like 6 or 6½ out of 10. But with how it all played out it feels like it was supposed to be something like a hour long TV special but they had to insert small stuff to keep the run time up.
Let’s be real. Tai Lung would’ve just stepped on the chameleon, destroy the city, be appalled that Po has achieved greater power and mastery of Kung Fu.
Look, the concept was interesting and great, but you can see that this project probably changed groups multiple times. And got budget cuts because the story itself doesn't really make sense.
Kai was literally annihilated by him, shen genocided it's people, they'd never ever side with Po. And more likely they would be like "hey, we are back now, gonna smash entire world"
The worst thing about the movie was how easily the other villains were defeated by chameleon, even Kai who is considered the best kung fu master aside from Po and Oogway
My biggest question in all of this is, Is there even a "Hell" for these bad guys The purpose of spiritual judgment (No matter the religion, pls no religious debates) is that choices, good or evil, should have consequences
Kai was wiped out of EXISTENCE! Shen killed Po's Mother and half the hidden Panda village, he would never give respect to Po! Tai Lung should have been the Dragon warrior!
@@Disneyfan82 At least she took it lightly but she still got butchered in Kung Fu Panda 4 and that is also includes tai lung, lord Shen, Kai, and all of the Furious 5 listen kung fu panda is not a bad movie but as a that is apart of the kung fu panda series that's suppose to be cannon I was really disappointed
@@theswags9675 dragon warrior is supposed to be the next generation fighter , someone who will manage the kingdom after the previous warrior dies either by old age or other means
Put Tai Lung in the posters, trailer and constantly hyping him up just to only have him to do nothing.
Yeah tell that Jack Black.
Such a Dick Move.
What do you mean nothing 😂 clearly he had more depth than the other villains and also I expected him to have a much worser role
@@pancakes7778 He had around 3 minutes of the entire movie and was useless throughout it
@@Knockoff_Zacian he still had more depth than I expected and a minor arc
At least he had screen time. The writers didn’t do shit with Lord Shen or Kai
True ending:
Tai Lung: Respect.
Shen and Kai: Revenge.
Would definitely be an interesting fight if they have Tai Lung fight with Po against Shen and Kai, instead of breaking character with those two villains.
@@Zack_Zander Tai Lung would've had reason to ally against Kai, seeing as the yak had stolen his chi as well...that is, if Kai was even canonically supposed to be present in the first place.
Kai was already dead in the 3rd movie, Po destroyed Kai's soul itself. When all that remains is your soul, and _that_ gets destroyed, there's nothing else left.
And Shen might know that it was always his own fault for his demise.
With all that in mind...
Tai Lung: Respect
Shen: Revenge or Resignation
Kai: Soul got erased from existence, therefore, cannot even be there in the first place
@@Zack_Zandervoice acting too expensive
Need to keep cash grab 900% profitable
Question. How is Kai alive after getting defeated by po?
Question. How is Kai alive after getting defeated by po?
“The more you take the less you have”
-Master Oogway
When she leaves you for another there's always her mother.
-Master Oogway
if there's a hole there's a goal
-Master Oogway
if you don't hurt anyone now, you can hurt more later on
-killer bunnies
The best way to confuse your enemies is to confuse yourself.
-Master Oogway
Just because there's a goalie, doesn't mean you can't score.
-Master Oogway
This scene was a big „Fuck You“ to Kung Fu Panda 2. I can still understand a bit the other Villains bowing to Po. But Lord fcking Shen would never do that. After killing Po‘s Mother, whipping all the pandas out burning panda villages…DreamWorks killed its own legacy
You have to remember the talk po had with him before he died, he was talking with lord shen about letting the past go, but he was furious in the moment, how could he just let go after all that, but he probably came to a realization in the spirit realm and respects po now
I buy him willingly going back to the spirit realm based on that look at the expression on his face at the end of his fight with Po, but him bowing to him is so stupid
Believe me it ruins the character completely like how Wong and hulk get treated in She-Hulk
I agree, but honestly it doesn’t only apply to Shen
Tai lung and Kai were far too deep into their villainy to ever bow to Poe
Shen's death was his redeeming act. He closed his eyes, reflected and regretted his actions before the cannon fell to him. He made peace with himself at the last moment.
When the villains return and I thought they were going to unleash their fury on Po and run a rampage in the city
SAMEEE
They could have launched a revenge to Po if they want to, but considering that Po has gotten stronger and stronger since the last time they fought him…. Yeah I think it’s best if they just return to the spirit realm and not repeat history
@@icydazo6417 yeah that’s true imagine of kung fu panda had a villain that’s so hard to defeat and hard to take down kind of like Frieza from Dragon Ball Z he was one powerful villain and the most evil of them all
such wasted potential to make the story more interesting
I don’t think Tai Lung would of, I mean he clearly had a lot of time to think in spirit realm and was never truly a villain. The others though especially Kai and Shen, that was out of character what they did.
Nah, shen showed respect... Po is doomed💀
That’s like making a painter happy
Shen was the only one who didn't bow down take that as you will
@@spin-brickz7557he literally did in the movie
This movie was unfortunately an L, they had a good streak too 😅
nah Pos kungfu surpassed Shen by this point
Lord Shen showing respect to Po is the most out of character thing i have ever seen.
It's like seeing Freezer showing respect to Goku.
Fr
By punching him in every encounter.
Trust me, I'm on the hate-wagon so far for this movie, but Shen actually does make some sense. In Shen's last moment before being destroyed by the falling cannon, he closed his eyes and his expression changed, all to one of acceptance. He accepted his death, and no doubt came to realize in death that the "Warrior of black and white" was quite likely him the whole time. One is often their own worst enemy, and those who attempt to change their fate only served to guarantee it whenever prophecies are concerned. _He_ decided to attempt a genocide on all pandas. That was _his_ decision, and look where that led him? One of the very ones he attempted to kill to prevent that future came to stop him, which wouldn't have happened in the first place if he hadn't gone genocidal.
And remember, Po never did land any killing blow. Everything about his downfall was set in motion because of his own actions, no one else.
Its out of character because the narration to transform shen to that is missing. Its like cooking a pizza, but it only shows spinning the dough, then comes pizza.
@@allegrolaro4727 The people behind Kung Fu Panda, at least for the original 3 movies, use a lot of symbolism that is often seen more easily in later viewings. Like, when Shen dies you likely don't think to hard to realize the face acceptance, you're just trying to watch it all for the first time and are too engrossed in learning what's going on.
Not everything in media has to be explicitly stated for people via some flashback or something, and that's what bugs me about a lot of movies lately. They baby to the viewers as if we're stupid and can't figure things out ourselves, not giving people a chance to use any problem-solving/deduction skills to discover it ourselves.
"Who had trained hard in kung fu, unlike her who stole all the skills".
-this line reminds me of Goku black
At least goku black was actually a good villain
@@dylanhudec979 you got that right
yh but ironically goku black actually had way more skills than goku. He was running it with al 3 saiyens at one point and bro didn't take a single L
@@scorchingradiance7605 also right, he had goku's skills, but also made a few of his own, unlike Chameleon who just mimicks everyone move
Edit: she actually had her own skills, but still, Goku black's better
Black was Atleast well written💀
Did they just disrespect Lord Shen's character by having him acknowledge Po?💀 What's going on DreamWorks??
You have NO idea what might have gone on in the spirit world for him. Perhaps he found enlightenment, or just had enough time to reflect on his actions. Just because he went back doesn't mean he acknowledged Po. It could simply mean that he knows his place is in the spirit realm now
@@NameHere2856 That's what these haters don't get
@@Disneyfan82 Shen can make some sense, to get humbled. After all, when the cannon was about to fall on him, he closed his eyes as he accepted his fate, with the realization that the warrior who was the source of his demise was himself (after all, one is often their own worst enemy).
Tai Lung most certainly makes sense for deciding to go back, as he has had the time to reflect on his own actions in death, and to accept that he never was meant to become the Dragon Warrior (I'd wager he probably encountered Oogway there at some point and the two talked, with Oogway pulling an Uncle Iroh).
But um...wasn't Kai...you know... _destroyed_ though? Like, the dude was already a spirit, and his spirit body was overloaded to the point of literally exploding from all the chi being forced into him, so Kai's entire existence should be completely destroyed in every capacity, meaning there should be canonically no way for Chameleon to even be able to get his chi.
_That,_ along with the disregard of Po having already achieved inner peace during the second movie, is where the justifiable hate comes from. It's disregarding both Po's lesson in the second movie, and Kai's entire soul being destroyed in the third.
@@legobrick1356so the person who killed themself not to loss and genosided a entire villige would get peace .
This is like adolf hittler holding a gun and deciding to leave the jewish leader alone becuse he lost ww2
It just a cash grab . Your thinking to hard and they didnt want to pay the voice actor
@@legobrick1356 it's safe to assume that Kai didn't got destroyed as he's already dead though.
Here’s the thing, a lot of us can buy Tai lung redeeming himself and returning to the spirit realm, and I’ve come around to Shen wanting to return, because of him accepting his fate in the second movie, but why in the living spirit realm does Kai just go willfully, and while we’re at it, how is in the spirit realm in the first place when he was basically eviserated in spirit form making him basically double dead
The Chameleon can bring back villains alive or dead
@@fearfulclan2007 alive or dead not particularly erased from existence
Kai could possibly be convinced from master Oogway and perhaps the spirit realm has some other effects as well though not addressed in the movies
Kai litelary spent hundreds of years holding grudge, why stop now?
@@zandengan7169 he doesn't wanna get folded by Po again obviously
I cried for Tai Lung.
The dude had his dream stolen for him just to die to a panda, and then he got revived just to watch someone else steal his dream from it again
Their glow showed they made peace with themselves
I think the spirit realm mellowed them out. Plus, they don’t have to like Po, but they can still be thankful that he saved them from the chameleon and allowed them to return to rest once more.
“We had our time in the mortal realm. We’re going back to our inner peace now.”
Better than being in Eternal hellfire
Yea I think kai was clinging on to anger for 500 years but when he got his ass beat and probably became much weaker he decided it wasn't worth the fight
If only, WE KNEW that that can happen.
Finally someone not raging about the ending.
@@autumnazure8928 Something is wrong with the others whining about the villains return to the spirit realm
In other words, Do you want to know what your big mistake was chameleon?
Po: Its that stolen body!...
Every muscle, every cell!!
There bodies were built on a life time of intense battles and training! But you took it, Its all second hand!
You have the power of those warriors cells but you dont truly understand it because you didn't build it! And you'll never learn how to think like them.
Chameleon : "How can there be such a huge power gap between us?" 😠
@@Soldier-wi8psbecause I am him
yh the only difference is that goku black was able to make a comeback XD
Vegeta reference
Was that a Goku vs. Ginyu reference from the time Ginyu stole his body
“They understand that their place in in the Spirit realm”
Meanwhile Kai who would’ve gone about 500 years to escape again
Such a trash movie. Kai, who waited 500 years to get out of the spirit realm, now willingly just walked back in
Kai and Shen wouldn't have wanted to return to the spirit realm cos they didn't want to be there in the first place! The movie's just trash cos of that fr
Kai got put in his place at the end of the third movie though, he knows that he can’t win over the world. It was the same case for Shen at the end of the second movie.
Kai shouldn’t even be alive anywhere, did he not just get obliterated at the end of KFP 3?
@@bruhmoment4635yes , that what i know , he bee wipe all out by chi
@@vigh0the 4 movie suck , that true
I think tai lung respects po now so he didn't want revenge 🫡
But in the last tai lung said that we'll meet in spirit realm so i am sure they had future plans
Dude tai lung refers to the death of po
It's a common saying, like "I'll meet you on the other side."
It just means Po will eventually die and go to the Spirit Realm someday.
Now you have me imagining Po dying and going to the spirit realm where all his enemies ambush him and beat his ass for all eternity.
@@eyei6535lol
@@eyei6535 I agree but chamelion ass will be beaten bad too cuz she attacked them offguard
It's like what Bruce Lee said: it is better to train 1 kick 10000 times then to do 10000 kicks 1 time
Expert Specialist vs Expert Generalist
thats the same thing
@@Biggroundsley
No, it's not. Slashing with a dagger 10,000 times is not the same as slashing with every bladed weapon on Earth 1 time.
@@Mystigon404thats the same thing aswell tho lol
@@Biggroundsleythen obviously you don’t understand how Martial Arts OR Weapons work.
The Chameleon Vs. Po is a perfect example of “Power is earned, never given, nor taken.” Amen.
It should have been Tai Lung bowing to Po while Kai and Shen are just in the back glaring daggers.
_Just_ Shen. Kai's soul got reduced to nothing, so there's nothing _to_ bring back in the first place.
@@legobrick1356 on the other hand, Shen accepted his own death in the 2nd movie.
But he still would do that.
@@legobrick1356also kai said to po he would spare him
Good scene
But would have ruin the future storylines lol
Here's a theory. For ppl mad at shen bowing lets rewind.
When shen died he accepted his fate didmt fight back just let it happen. I'm guessing his time in the spirit realm he found peace within himself. When chameleon brought him back and po bonked the chameleon Shen shouldn't feel amy resentment if he found his peace during his time in the realm so he oays his respect by bowing
Nah Shen found his peace I understand he would go back to the realm but bowing to Po is no way. Is like saying Hitler accepted defeat then he would bow down to the rusia. Shen freaking commit mass genocide to pandas and his aim was to conquer the whole china. Ain't no way dude gonna bow down to his former enemy
@@minhvohong4538You seriously don't get it do you?
@@Disneyfan82he does not
seriously people defending this bs movie?
@@dan2k-e4r it's called thinking
I can understand for Kai and Tai long but why should Shen go back there I mean this short look like it was only over tai long go back but just remember how Chen’s was it was not to grab control over china but it was like a personal affair between him and po
In the end shen accepted defeat and po has got peace with all villains now
Kai doesn't make sense either since he literally said he'll get on that ass even if it takes 500 more years
@@BookofAaron ok but self there was like 15 villains impossible they all wanted to go back and Kai don’t accepted or get his revenge he they all almost got no reason to come back seriously
I hate that scene it's fu### up why does lord Shen bow him he was best villain the Ying Yang between po and him it doesn't makes sense
@@Smilinggiyuuyeah that make no sens that almost every of his enemies just go back like they were pets I mean come on like grab Kai the guy passed 500 in this realm getting chi to
Get away and destroy Ogway legacy but Nah he just goes back there like a pet go back to his cage what was that man
I kinda loved the fact that the movie showed po as a wise man who instead of supposedly getting played by zhen he faked it all to help her grow into the new dragon warrior because the whole final fight was fake especially considering all he did was hit her once easily showing that the whole time po was in control (my personal opinion on the story)
I mentioned this to a friend, my beef with the series was that Po always seemed to lose to everyone even though he’s supposed to be a master. This was the first time I felt just how superior he actually is.
Po would have already one shotted chamelion anytime except the giant chamelion , she would have lasted a minute and lose but other forms would have been owned by po within seconds if po went serious cuz of that staff magic , the only reason he played with chamelion cuz he wanted zhen to gain confidence and abilities
I find it weird that whether you’re good or bad you end up in the same place
She’s built like a PS3 Ratchet and Clank villain 💀
Kai being back doesn’t even make sense. Bro got yeeted both in the mortal and spirit realm💀💀
Real, mf exploded
❎Staff of Wisdom
✅Staff of Knowledge
Shen be like:- Oh I am Shen, I killed your parents, destroyed you emotionally nearly killed you 3 times
But now I respect you
I mean Wh...What the .. fu*k is that
I swear I really hate how weak they made Shen look in this movie
@@vigh0not just shen, literally everyone in it, everyone was either hella weak or didnt even appear
Best way to fix shen in this case would have him just fucking die. Fade into ashes. Grey ashes. Shen should have already been forgotten.
@@justsomeguythatisaslime122wtf are they gonna do fight him
By now po probably can all kick their asses
So basically, Po bested their skills, so they decided to go back to the Spirit Realm because they got brainwashed by Po’s plot armour
I really do wish at the end Tai lung asks for one last rematch for the final fight
The spirit realm has free beer.
Lord shen : so your gonna forgive me after what i have done to your family
You earn my respect
They all found eternal peace .. that's why
I think that's one of the reasons I didn't like KFP4 that much,, at least one of those villains could have escaped or at least done something evil.. .they didn't want to be in the spirit realm in the first place so why return when you've got the chance to be evil again??
Me too but the saddest thing is they don’t give a reason like we find enlightment or something they just go back like just do the movie stay so short as he already is there was really no but no reason for them to go back there especially Shen knowing that for him it was like a personal affair between him and po
The movie showed zero respect towards the previous ones, i would kinda understand tai lung showing respect to po because he wasnt really evil, but shen and kai? No way in hell that those two would do this, kai spent 500 YEARS trying to escape the spirit realm, it is completely stupid to make him want to go back like nothing from the previous movie happened aside from the fact that he shouldnt even exist cause he blew up, and shen never liked po during all the second movie, makes no sense why he would have respect for him now
@@justsomeguythatisaslime122 this comment is almost the same I did on a other video over Kai 🤣
This would have felt repetitive cuz they already got beaten by a worse version of po , right now they would be one shotted
Also there is a rule that dead guys cannot enter to earth realm for long time especially with their free wills
HOLD UP! That peacock would go for the throat of that panda if he hade a second chance of coming back to the mortal world
Tai Lung now sees Po as worthy of the staff of wisdom (and as the dragon warrior)
Lord Shen had accepted his death at the end of Kung Fu Panda 2 and may have found peace (He still could be bowing reluctantly though)
Kai already lost to Po and understands that it would be pointless to seek revenge
Because they still understand the need of balance. Culture is still important to them and that’s what I appreciated about that moment. It was respected.
Even kai is glowing golden just like tai lung which means smth is different
"I dont fear a man who can do 10000 types of kicks but I fear a man who does 10000 times the same kick a day"
-Bruce Leee.
I refuse to accept that kai just "went back" vro was ready to train 500 years to defeat po 💀🙏🏻 like pleaee 💀
Staff of knowledge💀
It's staff of wisdom
Because Thai long is my favorite character
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Tai Lung*
You like him so much you don't even know his name lmao
The best thing about this movie was Tai Lung and the Cham's voice actress.
Is it just me who remembers how Kai was defeated at the end of the last movie or no? Because I’m still scratching my head just trying to understand how on Earth did he come back FROM the spirit realm
EXACTLY!! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! His spirit was *literally* destroyed, there's no coming back from having your soul itself being destroyed, that's a perma-death of the highest degree.
@@legobrick1356 there is no thing as double death in spirit realm, when Kai exploded , he only got disappeared for some years maybe but came back cuz if second time death is an option in spirit realm then Kai would have killed everyone in spirit realm
Kai fought for 500 years to get out of the spirit realm and when he gets the chance he simply returns there voluntarily. 😊
Tah lung and shen would destroy Po if they got the chance but now theyre all buddy buddy
I can sort of understand Tai Lung, but shen and Kai definitely not. And didn't Kai mention he would happily wait 500 more years to take po's chi?
@@TheButterSurge he was not taking po serious , the moment po figured out Kai weakness , Kai got humbled
All the villains learned a lesson, and finally got peace in the spirit realm after getting rid of the inner sufferings and emotional instability they had in the mortal realm
why is nobody talking about Lord Shen getting his skills stolen
He’s probably one of the only villains who didn’t have actual chi, yet also the only villain who had enough skill to give Po a crazy tough fight in the 2nd movie.
@@InfernoVerse975 Kai kicked po butt too in the first exchange before the spirit realm
staff of wisdom: nah
staff of knowledge: yeah thats good!
My theory is if that chameleon can also remove their memories maybe it would make sense
Maybe that would explain why kai doesn't attack po but instead bowing to him instead.
And what benefits will she get from that , and also without memories what will they all do by the way , this doesn't work good for kung fu movies tho especially those with only 1 hour durations
@@kratos8529 late reply bozo you should say that in the first place lmao idiot
Shen respecting po now really is quite the treat, after all shen hate the pandas, since it was foreshadowed by fate that he will lose to one, after po won the fight and had the talk with shen about letting the past go, shen may had time to think in the spirit world and may have realized po had a point
Tai lung: Now who will save you big guy?
Kai: This time i'll take your chi...... dragon warrior..
Shen: greeting panda we meet again ,i will make sure to kill you.....
Plot: All of you guys bow and return back
Villans :ok...🤡
This this the reason...... 😎
It would have been cool if all the villains teamed up against Po to take revenge on him in a huge final battle or another movie like a Kung Fu Panda 4 part 2 or something. Another thing that could have been cool is if Tai Lung and Po had to team up to defeat the Chameleon.
Staff of knowledge😂
Edit: Omg thanks for likes
Po was really holding back the whole movie fr cuz soon at the end of it one he got serious he one shot chameleon
Bro have an spoiler alert first now u ruiner everything
The movie has been in theaters for 12 days 😂
@@fearfulclan2007 bro not everyone has time to watch it
Then don’t finish the video?
It wasn’t good anyways and the weakest kung-fu panda movie
I get why everyone bowed to po because for shen the reason why he wanted to kill all the pandas is because he didn't want to die from them but when he saw po having inner peace I think he respected po for that, for tai lung we have to remember that shifu was the one to try to make him be the dragon warrior and he felt he was obligated to be it, and for kai i feel like he is the type of person to respeact whoever beats him in a fight
I remember a tantrum from shen until last second but ok
Nah it’s because the spirit realm brought them peace. would you rather fight in the mortal realm or meet peace
They should have done this instead :-
After chameleon is defeated, she plays her last trap by releasing all the villains. And it turns out, they are the same. All of them want revenge and after Po is defeated by all the villains from Po's past they start their rampage on the cities and try controling it. Lord Shen and Kai teams up. But Tai Lung knows that this is wrong but still decides to team up to show how great he is and why he was a GREAT choice for becoming the Dragon Warrior. And the movie ends there with a cliffhanger.
Kung Fu Panda 5 will cover the next Dragon Warrior's training and Tai Lung accepting his fate with Po and they team at the end of the first half and decide to send everyone back to the place they deserve, Spirit realm. And then they continue to fight and defeat the villains and then they send them to the spirit realm. Then finally, Tai Lung shakes his hand with Po before punching him to the ground as a joke and leaves to the Spirit Realm.
How is it?
Maybe pose the one who changed their villains ways
Especially Tai Lung to change to good instead of evil
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Tai lung and kai and shen bow to po is the best ending ngl
Spoiler warning!
I still believe Tai Lung should've stayed and become a teacher for the amount they were hyping him up
Bad writing
I’m gonna be dead serious, I kind of liked this movie. It’s 100% not on the same level as the first three, but I still liked it.
shen n kai got so cooked buddy's ain't speak nun
Lord Shen bowing down to Po as respect for doing something good to him, is like seeing Lord DIO bow down to Jonathan as respect for doing something good to him.
*They would never bow down even to those who showed them mercy.*
Tai lung: Bet bro your not that bad ima head out
Kai didn't even have any beef with Po bro just wanted chi. But lord Shen? "Hey Po it's me Shen! Remember when I killed your mother and wiped out your entire race because I was scared? Yeah I'm a good guy now so we're good right? Po?"
For those saying "Shens character was disrespected" please remember the entire reason that he killed off the pandas was to makes sure his doom didnt come to pass, its called character development he lost and also saw the power that Po had with inner peace, coming to peace in the spirit realm with other people Po had defeated would definitely have an impact on Shens character
These people saying that are idiots
The fact that he closed his eyes when the cannon fall shows that he knew the fate
I think my favorite part was when Alastor went “It’s alasting time!” and then alasted all over the place.
Po literally purified the spirit realm.. its why when kai took it over.. it became green
Not all of them are villains, some of them are actually just old masters
I really wish Tai Lung had stayed in the mortal realm, and became the Dragon Warrior successor. It would’ve been the perfect redemption arc for him, and it’d explain why Oogway couldn’t see him becoming the Dragon Warrior… because he had to die to fulfill his dream.
Er... Actually I think it's because he beat their a** before and didn't want a humiliating collective defeat
im not really mad over the fact that all the villains bowed to po because I understand and agree with the take. after being a villain and getting sent to the spirit realm, it changes you and makes you realize what you did when you were alive wasn't right.
i understood this trope when they did it in tmnt 2012 with shredder.
I have a theory, so the golden light shiny from kai shen and tai lung is the spirit realms chi that turned them good when they went there, oogway taught them to be good, including shen, so thats why they’re all budy budy now, because they turned good, like oogway did when kai stayed evil, and yes kai was reduced to nothing, but he still is in the spirit realm because when u die, u go to the spirit realm, the chameleon had been defeated and now everyone gives respect to po because he prove himself worthy, even tho that shen killed po’s family, he still gave respect to po for saving their souls.
I rest my case
My favorite part of this movie is how Tai lung in the first move was tossing bolders and deflecting arrows and gets defeated by some featless nobody.
This is truly an end of an Era for all the villas of po
Tai Lung showing respect to Po sounds like the most realistic outcome, but Kai and Shen would not let that opportunity slide.
I just watched the movie.. I loved it. Kinda sad that tai lung wasn’t the new DW. I loved how he brought back my fav villan gerberal Kai
I watched too.
I was going to take my girlfriend's son but he was rude
@@polishalastor142 dang
@@polishalastor142lol
Dragon warrior is supposed to be the next generation, like passing of torch
And also tai lung is technically dead so it would be weird to make a dead guy dragon warrior
@@polishalastor142 oof
Still would've been cool if all the the villains are just in the valley chillin
They finally found Inner Peace
everyones talking about shen bowing to po but what im more concerned about is how the hell Kai is still alive. shouldnt his body been like, i dont know, completely disintegrated? seeing as though pos chi was enough for him to blow up inside the spirit realm as well, so hes just long gone but nope, gotta bring him back for the money huh dreamworks?
Kai ain’t even supposed to be there he’s like double dead🤣
Even shen when back witch is surprising
He was too in Spirit realm
He gained enlightenment in his defeat
I think of it more something like a spin off movie. Its ok like 6 or 6½ out of 10. But with how it all played out it feels like it was supposed to be something like a hour long TV special but they had to insert small stuff to keep the run time up.
I fully expected Shen to lag out harshly
Let’s be real. Tai Lung would’ve just stepped on the chameleon, destroy the city, be appalled that Po has achieved greater power and mastery of Kung Fu.
Look, the concept was interesting and great, but you can see that this project probably changed groups multiple times. And got budget cuts because the story itself doesn't really make sense.
Kai was literally annihilated by him, shen genocided it's people, they'd never ever side with Po. And more likely they would be like "hey, we are back now, gonna smash entire world"
"Professionals have standards" ~Sniper, Team Fortress 2
Nah they have 5 star hotel in the spirit realm
The worst thing about the movie was how easily the other villains were defeated by chameleon, even Kai who is considered the best kung fu master aside from Po and Oogway
My biggest question in all of this is,
Is there even a "Hell" for these bad guys
The purpose of spiritual judgment (No matter the religion, pls no religious debates) is that choices, good or evil, should have consequences
Kai was wiped out of EXISTENCE!
Shen killed Po's Mother and half the hidden Panda village, he would never give respect to Po!
Tai Lung should have been the Dragon warrior!
Tai Lung is not meant to be the Dragon Warrior, get over it!
@@Disneyfan82 what about tigress who was with poe every spet of the way
@@theswags9675 It was still not meant to be and she accepted that.
@@Disneyfan82 At least she took it lightly but she still got butchered in Kung Fu Panda 4 and that is also includes tai lung, lord Shen, Kai, and all of the Furious 5 listen kung fu panda is not a bad movie but as a that is apart of the kung fu panda series that's suppose to be cannon I was really disappointed
@@theswags9675 dragon warrior is supposed to be the next generation fighter , someone who will manage the kingdom after the previous warrior dies either by old age or other means
This movies lesson is just the namek arc
DB
Tai Lung could've had an amazing redemption arc, but they fumbled the bag so hard