As someone from the Nordics I will say this: If the locals tells you to stay away from a place or just refers to a place as “bad/evil/wicked”, listen to them! Anyone who has been out there in those woods, hills and mountains knows that there’s some places you just don’t go to…
Don't forget warnings from American Natives, Africans, Afghanis, Hindu, older people from Balkans ( Romania, Serbia & Bulgaria for start ), etc. about THEIR cursed places...
As a Finn, I would like to slightly correct the video's interpretation of the Sami people. Vottovaara is located in the Karelia region, no Sámi have lived in this region for hundreds of years, native Karelia people live in the Vottovaara region.the Sami people live in northern Lapland in Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Russia
Kiitos, karjalaisen suvun suomalaisena ei mun sit tartte tota lähtee selittää, mietinkin alusta asti et mitä ihmettä lapin saame mun suvun kotinurkilla tekis, ei ole kun se 500km+ hutiin mennyt tuo.
Luuletteko te oikeasti, että saamelaiset ovat aina eläneet tietyillä lapin alueilla? Eikä ole missään vaiheessa liikkuneet muualla Suomessa tai Norjan , Ruotsin ja pohjois venäjän alueilla. Ja toiseksi. Kukaan ei pysty sanomaan tarkkaa aikaa. Koska nuo seidat on sinne väsätty. Tuskin 200 vuotta sitten. 2000 vuotta voi olla lähempänä. Nuo ovat asuttaneet suurta osaa Suomesta kauan ennen kuin "Karjalaiset" ovat alueelle tulleet....Eipä muuta..Omituisia olettamuksia millä ei ole mitään tekemistä todellisuuden kanssa.
Ps. Saamelaiset olivat Nomadeja. Ja aikoinaan tuhansia vuosia sitten Ilmasto oli erinlainen. Porojen muutto vaellus oli aivan erinlainen. Ennen muinoin porot vaelsivat jopa pohjois saksaan lähelle tanskaa. Ja siellä on todistettavasti ansoja poroille tehty kivistä. Jotka ovat tuhansia vuosia vanhoja. Juuri noin vuosi pari sitten oni löytynyt kivinen aitaus johon poroja on aikoinaan ajettu.
Superstitious or not, I’m not going somewhere a local tells me not to. They could tell me it’s a murderous beast and it might not be, but these stories exist for a reason
This point exactly! I don't have to necessarily believe in the supernatural to know that I would rather not fk around and find out in case I piss SOMETHING off (supernatural or natural).
I live by that , it’s just better to be safe then sorry. Native peoples have lived in those areas for thousands of years , so if they tell me something evils in that woods I’m not going in those woods
Look up the deadliest sniper ever. It was a Finn during the Era of the Winter War. I think something like 200+ confirmed kills. Even during the height of the viking age, the Norse knew that the Shamanic Finns could mutilate you and offer you up to their strange gods with the widest smiles on their painted faces.
As someone who grew up with "The Twilight Zone" on the tube, and the "CBS Radio Mystery Theater" coming from my little radio at night, this channel touches home. Just love it.
Ha what serendipity to find your comment. I was just thinking that Luke's narration somewhat reminds me of Rod Serling. And I believe I've watched all his uploads but never had that thought before.
I mean, while I'm not going to doubt the finnish's hunting and tracking abilities and their capabilities of identifying animal signs. If I were a soldier who came across that scene after being subject to the sound of screams, gunfire, and grenades for 2 days straight, I personally wouldn't stick around for very long looking for clues.
Honestly fair, I mean, to take the story at face value, to be so afraid of something to take your own life, and to come across such a scene, the stuff of nightmares.
Pretty sure Soviet armies had tons of desertions, for several various reasons, but also where you going to desert TO when you're that deep in random enemy territory/literal wilderness?
@@HtcForever More likely then not those men just killed each other in the dark and the local boys on the other side just chucked it up to "evil mountain did it, let's go home".
I did my time in the Marines and like most I went all over the world and loved it. But for all the fun I had I'll admit there were times where things weren't "normal". children laughing at night in the middle of the jungle where only a helicopter can take you. Finding wolf tracks the size of your hand while at MWTC in Bridgeport CA. Or being in Iraq in the middle of summer at 3AM and the temperature all of a sudden dropping from 98 to the low 40's in just a few minutes and stayed that way for almost 30 minutes before returning the 90's along rout Fiesta...! SFMF!
@@randallbesch2424 We heard wolves twice but never saw them. All we saw were tracks and those were the largest set in the pack of tracks. They’re used a muddy road for maybe 500 yards or so before heading back into the woods. Having rained that morning and being as defined as they were we figured they were only hours old tracks. The only reason we saw the “big” tracks is cause I think it was in the back of the pack so it’s prints weren’t trampled. 2 sets by the way.
I live in the woods in a temperate forest, and the fox has one of the creepiest vocal ranges I have ever heard. One of its barks sounds exactly like a little girl sobbing, especially if a little distant and broken up by the wind. It is so unnerving to hear a little girl sobbing in the dark forest up a mountain at 2am, where obviously no little girl should be.
@@Herbymac0811sounds like those tracks were either from a single or pair of Dogmen, or large wolves or even Dire Wolves ( giant ice age wolves that supposedly are still around in small groups/ packs in isolated areas).
"Do not dig the holy ground"... There are so many interesting war stories about finnish border areas. Like battle of Raate road. People are still hearing clicking sounds of reloading a rifle and tank tracks ratling in those woods. Soviet 44th division was destroyed there in January 1940. Thank´s for your awesome channel and greetings from Finland!!
@@GggGgg-ek3dw So let's see, you know for a fact that ghosts are real .... and you're laughing because someone mentioned stories that sound to you like ghost stories but you know they're impossible because you know precisely what ghosts are and aren't. Also you think shrooms are cooked.
@@audreymuzingo933 ghosts are real, many ppl saw them but they never shoot iron things so story above is exagerrated obv. I would pass this story if id be sceptic tho
I've heard of the accounts of phantom sounds of artillery, cannon and gunfire on the civil war battle fields. Like a recording of events replaying itself in the environment.
As a 🇫🇮 person I've never even heard of this fascinating story. Thanks for sharing! That Finnish English accent was a bit too Russian though 😂 If you have other Finnish war stories and ever need a Finnish voice over, let me know and I'll help.
Did anyone ever do Mineral Exploration in the Area ? There is more to Mineralized areas than people are willing to accept or believe. I have some stories but I’ll keep them to myself this time because in the past I have had too many negative responses about my comments and a lot of them,TH-cam has deleted. Kind of makes me think that they are looking at me as a Liar or troublemaker.
I am at the part where the Finns are talking and I literally paused the video just to look for a comment talking about how Russian and not Finnish they sound, lol. Perhaps the th's turned into t's is the most Finnish feature, but this palatalization helps nothing since only Slavic languages tend to have this phonological phenomenon in the area. Look how they speak the "bellyaching" line
No one in Karelia heard that story bro, it is just fake. Every day and sometimes at night groups of tourists hike there and nothing happens, "ancient gods" are ok with it.
While an interesting story it was most likely wolves as they are known to slaughter their prey and leave good "meat" lying on the ground to go to waste as I recall stories from Imperial German and Russian troops teaming up in winter months of WW1 to combat hordes of starving uncannily intelligent wolves. i guess one could say the "wolves" were controlled by the boogie man, but the Soviets were pathetic soldiers at the time and were probably scared of their own shadow. The only curious thing about the wolf theory is the Finnish lack denoting any animal bodies the Soviets undoubtedly must have hit, I still say the animal attack explanation is a FAR more realistic and likely truth than some supernatural foe no one has seen since. The Soviets did take the territory eventually after all and nothing of note happened since that one time....does that mean the vaunted "Stallu" bowed before the might of the Red Army juggernaut lol?
@joerussell9574 Knowing that some German officers conducted ocullt practices and searched for a supernatural "big stick.". I can't put it past the Soviets finding something supernatural and keeping it under wraps.
@@claudiodominguez. You would think all those occult practices would produce some benefit if real. It's like i always say if the "supernatural" curses and practices were real someone would be using them to conquer the world. I am an open minded skeptic that has seen a UFO but I am not sold on the ghosts and such.
The artworks accompanying your great narration are fantastic. I always get a nice shiver when I spot some glowing eyes, a humanoid shape or a dark silhoutte on the edge of the picture during the story.
Humans dont think we have everything figured out... Have you heard about fucking scientists? thats what theyre for. their entire job is to figure shit out
Finland had 4 million people and 4,000,000,000,000 mosquitos in 1939 - and possibly even more today. A friend of mine went on holiday there back in the 1970's and came back looking like Frankenstein's monster, his face nearly unrecognisable through swolen midge bites.
@@AverageAmerican Really ? Didn't know that. In Finland in the summer, due to the countless lakes, you literally get eaten by mosquitos. It is a beautiful country and well worth the visit but one has tp plan accordingly to avoid the season of little flying vampires.
I found this on the local guide's site, "Vottovaara is shrouded in a huge number of legends that multiply and multiply. This is also facilitated by the numerous seidas erected by someone in this region and the gloomy swamps interspersed with rocks and stories about shamans living on the mountain. The mountain of Vottovaara is confused with the mountain of Death, which is located nearby. Death Mountain is so named because a partisan brigade died here in 1942." I think all this happened on another mountain.
But a bear against 100 men with rifles and grenades? I don't think that's possible. Sure it could get one or two, but not the whole company. I don't even think a polar bear could have done that. Maybe if they all had 9mm pistols. But there are stories of single people killing brown bears with 9mm. Rifles bullets have the power to penetrate, which would easily kill a bear.
The self ending is what really makes it seem supernatural. Let's say it's a bear, you don't shoot yourself, you get into a group so nobody gets picked off. Like you say, if a few were taken, then everyone else would team up on the bear/pack of wolves.
@@OswaltSamuel i think a bunch of Finns ambushed those Soviets and mutiliated them, to strike fear among the Soviet ranks, if they sent out a search party to find out what happened to them.
Great episode! I'm from Sweden and I was entirely unfamiliar with this tale from our neighbours in the north. Also great to see your illustrations just get better and better, they add so much atmosphere to the stories.
Years ago I came across the remains of a moose that had been brought down and eaten by a pack of wolves. The event happened probably the night before I saw it and you could almost picture the scene as it unfolded because the evidence was all over the snow. It’s a scene I won’t forget. I can imagine how much more terrible this must have appeared.
Hostile landscape, cantolizing terrain, and a demon possessed mountain. And yet the scariest thing in Finland still manages to be the Finns. Great video as usual, bro. Keep up the awesome work
The Finns are not to be underestimated. They were able to hold out against the soviet union when stalin was in power. They are brave and resilient people.
@@CodyHomes Finns are NOT Norse, dude. I know it's an easy misconception to arrive at because we're neighbours, but it's no different than calling Amazigh/Berbers as Arabs just because they've lived alongside one another.
We need more of these lesser known stories. Perhaps the answer is mundane, but i have seen things that make me think that theres somethings we just dont comprehend. The world is so spectacular, how could it be so mundane?
0:41 the massive stone formations were used to communicate or infrom of danger coming to village etc the stones were made to hit each other hard so it would make a massive sound to warn nearby villages. sorry for bad english the making of those stone formations was explained in history lessons in school but cant remember how they made it
As a finn, there are definitely some unknown things out there in our deep woods that we dont know of. I’ve had several encounters with things that got me the chills and real fear.
Yeah same, many wierd things. Just week ago when we were on Halla-Aho's familys cottage we took some pics of our drunken friend and after coming home we saw some old lady standing on the picture outside at 2am in the middle of nowhere. Still gives me the creeps. And didn't help that my friend woke up in the middle of the night hearing scratching sounds coming from the wall of the sauna building where he was sleeping, after banging at the wall where he heard the sound just jumped toward the door and he called my friend to go save him. Only thing he saw was a humanoid figure but more an animal looking that didn't fit into its body... scary stuff
@@spuqe69 Ok aika raju tarina luulin et suomi on tylsä paikka missä ei ikinä tapahdu mitään creepyä. Ok pretty sick story i always thought that Finland is a boring place were never happends anything creepy.
Spotted this on our TH-cam home page and thought, 'Ooh, Friday night treat!' Grabbed some nibbles and sat to watch. Very interesting and bizarre story. My husband finds it particularly interesting as he worked with someone Finnish, who was a petite HR person and a real sweetie. He would stop and chat to her often and learned from her what Finland was like. And because of her he looked up the history of Finland on Wikipedia, which he would advise anyone to do, and learned what a troubled history they have had with Sweden or Russia taking it in turn to invade. The one thing that seems to have held them together as a country is their language, which is very unique in comparison to surrounding countries. As others have said, we could listen to you for much longer. You are a great narrator and the scripts are very well written. And of course there is the brilliant artwork and the dialogue with the characters. Gives a sense of reality and puts you in the moment. Keep up the great work. Love from England.
Thank God, something decent to listen to that isn't just politicians bitching. Thank you so much for all the hard work, your videos are appreciated so much! Always interesting and informative, and produced very professionally.
This was truly chilling. Thank you. I think that the land has its own ideas about who should go there, and who should not. Or something(s) so old that they may as well be the land.
Skinwalker specifically refers to several types of evil Navajo witches. Even in traditions of neighboring tribes like the Hopi or Ute, skinwalkers are Navajo witches. Other tribes may have their own witches that can shapeshift, and medicine people that may shapeshift, but they are not the same as skinwalkers, which are specifically types of Navajo witches. No wonder the Navajo don't want to talk to outsiders about such things (apart from not wanting to attract their attention, same reason many Irish and Scottish people don't talk about fairies. If they do they use nice euphemisms like "the good people" or "the noble people" so as not to piss them off). We get ahold of an idea and next thing we end up with Finnish "skinwalkers" or turn them into pop culture figures and horror stories. Same with Wendigos, which are a specific type of being (a type of evil spirit or demon, and those who become possessed by that demon) in the traditions of certain tribes of Eastern Canada and Northeastern U.S., but now they apparently turn up anywhere and everywhere and bear little to no resemblance to the indigenous tradition. Heck, we've done the same to some of our European traditions. Leprechauns have become funny little guys looking for their lucky charms (or murderous creatures), fairies have become essentially bugs with human bodies, elves make toys or cookies, gnomes hang out in gardens getting shat upon by birds and squirrels... 🤷🏻 That's what we do, I suppose. But the sad thing is the original traditions, which are inportant parts of human history and culture, end up getting lost or forgotten, replaced by the caricatures we created.
Thank you for this comment. I always scratch my head when I hear a story about, for instance, a w*ndigo in the desert SW of the United States. Like uhhhhh those aren't from these parts. You probably encountered something weird but, my friend, I do not think it was a desert w*ndigo. I think the only thing about specifically "skinwalkers" is that the word sounds like a generic catch-all for "things that walk in different skins". Kinda like how "shaman" is used as a generic term for holy person or medicine worker when it's actually a specific title from a specific people.
Trolls/goblins/evil fae live in places like that. Between the big rocks. And bears.. I had a Karelian bear dog. Best dog I have ever had. Great video, Thank You and Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮
Each one of these stories reminds me of my grandpas stories of being in the jungle of vietnam and mysterious things would happen to his unit. Nothing violent just weird and creepy
@rebeccalove9169 well one of em was on a dark night no moon out or any natural light out except stars. His squad was away from the main unit not by far maybe 100 yards at most. Everyone was asleep except for him and his buddy. There was 12 of em at the time all sleeping in a small area taking turns on guard duty. Well my gramps and his buddy were up telling stories of their childhood on their watch. When what he could only describe was the wailing of a dieing woman in the trees that sounded very close. The noise was loud enough it woke the rest of the troop. Their sarg asked em what the hell that was and neither could answer because they had no idea what just happened. The sarg has 3 people after that be on watch. We'll the next morning they scout around the area and close to were they stopped to rest for the night was something none of them could expect. Less then 30 yards away there was the remains of a fire and small tombstone that read "here lies a mother taken to soon from her family by her evil husband." He claims it was dated 1885 to 1915 with no name on it. He went onto claim more stuff similar happened but none with as vivid of clarity of sound like on that night. His squad also kept having personal effects go missing and how some would have their bags moved on em.
Well they ran into weird and terrifying sounds at night that came from destroyed huts and burned villages. Once he told me his squad was doing a 2 day patrol and that night they stopped to get some sleep. Only to be waken by a animalistic scream and a pack missing. They checked out the area it came from and there was a family graveyard in that direction with the pack in the middle of the graves
More people need to know about the Sami and the indigenous tribes of Siberia. They were there during WWII and played pivotal roles, but because their populations are so small and strewn across such wide and desolate distances, they are often erased.
Bears are most unlikely candidate because they mostly spend their winters in hibenation. They may occasionally wake up from the hibernation but won't wander off from their nest.
@@dlxmarks It might be silly but whatever dogmatic skeptics can pull out of their butts to grasp at to avoid having to grapple with the fact that paranormal entities might just actually exist, they will take it. Anything but the paranormal *must* be the explanation they say. Anything, no matter how far reaching the answer is, no matter how much more a paranormal explanation makes sense than more mundane explanations in a certain case, etc, must be the answer instead of the paranormal.
My Brother. As someone with both Sami and Norse blood, I can say with certainty that the Swedes, Danes, Finns, and Norse are all indigenous peoples of Scandinavia.
This is wrong in multiple ways. For starters, you said Swedes and Danes twice because you don't seem to understand that "Norse" doesn't mean (what I think you're meaning to say) Norwegian. It's a blanket term to refer to EVERYONE in the Nordic ethnic group, so Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Faroese, and Icelanders, among some other insular groups of Nordic people. Second, not only are Finns not indigenous to Scandinavia, but they don't even inhabit Scandinavia! Finland is explicitly excluded from Scandinavia by every credible source. Finally, and most importantly, while the term indigenous can mean "from (i.e., native to) a certain region," that is the biological definition and is meaningless when comparing populations of people. The definition when talking about people you should use is the anthropological definition which refers to what group of people have inhabited the region the longest.
A note about the Sami, the Scandinavian and Nordic people are indigenous to Europe as well. Europeans have been living in Europe for tens of thousands of years. Theyre indigenous.
The thing that makes me doubt that they were attacked by animals is that they were apparently torn apart but not eaten. If it had been animals there would probably not be much left of those soldiers. I feel there's definitely something spooky going on in that mountain. Anyway, love from Finland, it's always cool to hear new stories about my country 💙🇫🇮
Probably sub terrestrial giants they like to go by ET nowadays but they have a horrible MO that ties into cattle mutilations and they like to attack Russians in the mountains like they did at Dyatlov with the ten or eleven hikers...
If the Russians had been attacked by animals, they wouldn’t have been taking their own lives because animals aren’t as terrifying as all that. With animals, they would’ve had a chance to shoot and kill… No reason to kill themselves
Wolves can get the same frenzy as dogs, when they just start pulling shit apart in manic fashion and even fight among themselves, eating only later. I think the Russians couldve surprised a pack and this was the result. Bears usually eat readymade carcasses they come upon and lynxes are loners, same as wolverines, I doubt they are the culprit here, company of soldiers is just too big. Moose would be a possibility, they are absolutely unpredictable and easily spooked savages. Another point is we did a lot of psychological warfare, we kinda had to against enemy so massive, this story might just be part of that.. but that would completely ruin a great story :)
10:20 the Sami are pretty much far away from Denmark, the closest thing is that the danish crown reigned over them when Denmark and Norway were in a personal union until the early 19th century.
This is one of the most professionally, captivating channels on this platform, he has a perfect voice for this type of content, not to mention how he enthralls the listeners as to almost put you at the scene of the event at hand
Anyone hearing the descriptions of the mechanism of injury of the corpses and claiming it was a bear or wolves is some cube gopher who's vast knowledge of the wilderness comes from watering their houseplants. I live in Alaska and I've seen bear mauling victims- both survivors brought into our ER and those who's bodies were eaten that we had to recover- and have seen remains scavenged by wolves (they didn't kill the person, post-mortem scavenging up north of here) and they don't leave bodies in the conditions described. That isn't even taking into account that I live with these creatures, there's a wolf pack not a half mile from here and a momma bear and her cubs currently snoozing away three hundred yards up the mountain behind the hospital I'm working in right now. There is no way in the nineteen flaming hells of tap-dancing China that they would attack a large group of armed men over two nights and kill all of them. They might attack and pick off a straggler or two, but to engage the entire unit in what sounds like a full-on frontal assault? No way in hell, their goal is food, not vengeance. One or two men would be enough to feed a pack and they would snatch and drag the bodies off to a safe place to feed, not stick around for two nights going John Wick on the ten frillion men with the bang sticks and boom rocks. I also know Finns, and I know the Sámi by reputation, they aren't prone to BSing so if they say it happened I believe them. If they say the Soviet troops were torn apart like this, with no animal bodies found, I say stay the hell off of the mountain and call it a day.
The sámi though have absolutely nothing to do with this story. Seems a foreign (most likely American) misreading and conclusion has had them take the term "native" (here referring to local Karelians and Finnish-Karelians) and assume it refers to the sámi.
The fact you can positively identify and know for certain the abilities of these predators and you saying there's no way in hell they would've done what happened just makes this story all the more terrifying. It makes one think that Vootavaara is home to something ancient and vengeful. And those dudes came in too big a number with malicious intent and that probably pissed it off.
@@CherokeeFlutist59 To me, the real question here is just how accurate any descriptions even are. We have very little more than a handful of anecdotes. I can't call it a good example of anything.
@@marhawkman303 that's a fair assumption. Does make for a scary ass thought, though. But that is a true thing, it did happen over 70 years ago and details could've been lost and mixed up.
@@marhawkman303 you gotta admit though, even with those flaws, it's still a pretty good war horror story. Question is how real is it? We may never know.
First of all, I love your channel. The script, Luke, the narrator, the artwork... All of it. It's amazing. And then (even though I truly enjoy the hair-raising mix of wartime and the supernatural), I'm going to be a bit of a wet blanket. Here goes: Hypothermia, especially extreme cases, can certainly cause hallucinations. I live in a reasonably northern area at a fairly high elevation. And I've done some amateur research, especially after researching the Dyatlov Pass incident. There. The logical part of my brain is satisfied. Needless to say, I also believe that some "border" type natural landscapes can be a type of gateway. As the famous, fictional detective says, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Wonderful stuff! Thank you!
The twisted, stunted trees make me think "microclimate". That tends to happen when trees are surviving, but struggling to do so in the face of icy winds. Likewise, I'd always do your best to go back to primary sources on any kind of indigenous-sourced information. For example, the original Mansi that Kholat Syakhl (the mountain where Dyatlov Pass is) translates from does mean "dead mountain"... but it can also translate as "silent peak" and, if you ask them for an explanation, it's meant more as "Nothing to hunt there. Don't bother." than as something creepy.
The Kholat in Kholat Syakhl is a cognate with Finnish Kuolo (also meaning death), as Mansi and Finnish are related languages. There's a somewhat corresponding mountain in East Finland called Koli, where legends have long been told about deadly and hostile spirits known as "mustarinnan murhat miehet" or "the murderous men of Black Chest." Also a local legend about a Finnish shaman using a "cave temple" inside the mountain to conduct rituals, making the rocks shake and the waters boil.
Yeah, Kholat Syakhl is basically the Mansi sister of Koli mountain in Finland, based on the presence of evil spirits and even down to the meaning of the name
@@SairanBurghausen I think I'll trust the sources dug up by The Lore Lodge's Aiden Mattis (who is a trained historian and folklorist and, thus, knows how to dig up trustworthy sources) which say they named it "dead peak" because they named it before the climate warmed (relatively recently) when it was cold enough that the mountaintop was all bare shale and snow.
You're exactly right, it's microclimate, but especially the amount of soil and consequently the amount of water and nutrients. Much of the area is exposed rock and I guarantee you won't be able to sink the blade of a shovel all the way into what little soil there is.
im sorry but 100 soldiers throwing high power rifle rounds and grenades at a pack of wolves or a bear and losing? uh uh, no way. just 1 bullet can kill either animal. so even if they were terrible shots and had a 40% hit ratio they still woulda won that fight EZ. and for them to off themselves? whatever they encountered had to be a unimaginable horror
Dogmatic skeptics: Yeah but there is no such thing as the paranormal, it's all a bunch of woo. Believers in the paranormal: So you aren't even going to consider the possibility that this might have been some type of horrible paranormal entity that ripped these entities to shreds? Dogmatic skeptics: Nope, not gonna do it.
Soviets probably were fighting their own troops because some try to get out of the mountain before the cold took them, but the military didnt allow that to happen. "Not one step back!"
@@PhillyEaglesFanatic Maybe what we consider paranormal isn‘t paranormal at all, but we can‘t comprehend it with our materialistic brain. Over the centuries much ancient knowledge got lost and today we know how to build phones and cars, but we can‘t be sure of what exactly lives beyond the borders of our save cities. The possibility exists, that some ancient species manage to hide away from us, just because we don‘t, pay attention anymore
Of course wartime stories drops a banger right after I end work on a Friday ! Well gonna have to book mark it for Monday ! Love your content thank you from just a guy in a wood shop in New Jersey
There are countless stories about such events in Finnish war history, all the way from ancient sagas about Bjarmians and Kvens to spooky stuff from the 1600s. Specific areas too like Koli are filled with folklore about "dangerous spirits", known on mount Koli as "the murderous men of the black chest".
@@amethyst1826 Pretty much impossible in English. They're even difficult to find in Finnish online. Usually you already gotta know what you're looking for and the specific key words.
Oh and for those who are into Missing 411: in Finland we have a folklore phenomenon called Metsänpeitto which is pretty much identical to those disappearances as well as Native American/Japanese/etc legends about "spiriting away" in general. Everything from "the forest suddenly going quiet" to "people taking their clothes off or wearing them in reverse" to "the person is found in a spot searched many times over because they haven't actually moved far away, they're in the same spot but within another 'layer' of reality." It's scary how similar these beliefs are despite these peoples being disconnected by thousands of kilometers.
@@riftvallance2087 I'd say the most terrifying name/term in our military history is one that's been used to refer to the most horrifying/deadly of the Finnish (including Tavastian and Karelian) guerrilla chiefs: "Murhanenkeli", or "Angel of Murder". Interesting characters from this category (which will definitely be to your taste if you're into both spooky folklore and military history), would be.... Pekka Vesainen, an ostrobothnian chieftain who fought the Russians for decades and had his family massacred multiple times over. He carried out the massacre of the monks at the Kandalaksha monastery. Musta Nykyri, a similar figure who had tanned skin and dark hair, loud as a beast and a giant of a man. Vesainen also had a Karelian rival called Iivana Rokačču. All of them are famous for being these shadowy figures leading men through rivers and forests and snowy plains to ambush and assault larger forces and towns, taking no prisoners and waging war with terror. All of them are also associated with supernatural abilities, ancient Finnish shamanism and the like.
During the Winter War, Finnish troops would sometimes take dead Soviet soldiers whose bodies had frozen solid and position them in strange poses, such as head down in the snow to scare the Soviets. This gave rise to a lot of myths about monsters in the forests.
Many doubts come up here...for instance, wasn't a single autopsy performed to find out the causes of 100 deaths ? What happened after the Finns discovered the killed Soviets ? Did the Finns occupy that post for observation ? If they didn't, did the Soviets try to reach that same spot again ? What was the official Soviet explanation for such massacre ? Too many unanswered questions thus making this episode highly doubtful.
Makes me think of an Until Dawn Wendigo zipping around. Maybe the same supernatural creature tales are based on, like widespread vampire and wolfman tales across the globe. Or a cousin of it. Very fascinating.
@@spao9411 Sure, certain Hebrew Sheeple act like monsters. But do you think all people came from Adam while Holy Scripture is clear about two races who did not?
@@MrWolff97 At first it was Mickey Turcanu like on the sister channel "Bedtime Stories" but I think it's someone else now. Mickey got too busy doing Bedtime Stories if I recall correctly. I would like Luke to confirm just to be sure.
@@mistral-unizion-music Negative. The reason Luke wanted to partner with Bedtime Stories was bcuz his artwork was so similar to Mickey's, and his channel was just as unique, and it seemed a no-brainer. When approached with the idea, Bedtime Stories decided to make Wartime Stories a sister channel. But Luke did his own artwork and maybe still does... He has an audio person that does all the sound editing.
My deepest condolences and respect for those brave warriors. There's actually a place in Siberia called Yakutia about space weapons, beings from outer space, and also radioactive contamination back in 1800s.
Hey love your videos but im sorry but"Sami Are indigenous to Scandinavian" and say that the Sami Are in Danmark is not true. The Sami Are nadiv to Lapland and also live in the most north part of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia The Sami have never been to Danmark As Dane i felt the need to say Anyway love your videos, keep posting
I don't know too much about Sámi, but even I thought it is impossible for them to be natives of Denmark. Luke really needs to do more historical research before making his videos.
Also, the people who were to become the Swedes and Norwegians settled before the Sami, at least in the southern parts of Scandinavia. So, we are the true indigenous peoples.
@@crazysilly2914according to the internet atleast the scandinavians arrived about 10 000 years ago while the sami arrived in the northern parts about 1500 to 1400 years ago
@@nikolaimyklebust7396 ok. The Sami are tunguskic/turkic, right? I read somewhere that the Japanese and (non-scandinavian) ethnic Finns are distantly related, because a tunguskic/turkic people group split directions, some went west to Scandinavia and intermarried with europeans, some moved east and intermarried with Mongolians/ainu/chinese to create the Japanese.
What's interesting about the Winter War is that when originally planning the campaign Soviet command drew up a rather simple straightforward plan to make a single thrust on the capital, Helsinki, but Stalin went nah I want convoluted, highly complicated, dispersed assault along the breadth of the border. This led to the many isolated columns bogged down on bad roads that made them easy pickings for Finnish light troops. Once the Soviets went back to the original plan of concentrating their forces they were then able to punch through to Helsinki and forced the capitulation of Finland.
@@spao9411 I never said they took Helsinki. I said that they made a thrust i.e. an offensive in the Karellian Isthmus with the intention of striking the capital, but the war ended with a negotiated peace before this came to fruition.
@@markjackson3531 because he lied about his number of kills. In his words, he made more attacks in different months what Soviets recorded officially. I guess he fought his own vision problems
Man, I see a new video from you in my feed and everything else gets pushed back. I stop everything to watch it. You're a great storyteller! Thanks for such a great channel.
Many thanks! I worked in Russia a while ago, and traveled up to Karelia and Finland as well. That region? The further north you go, the scarier things get, especially when you see the forest at night! If the Samis (I knew about them, poor guys were VERY badly treated by the Swedes, not so well by the Finns too) tell you not to tread on a certain place, your blood's on your own head if you go further! That said, stories like that happened in Asia too, there are stories about Chinese PLA troops bumping into weird local "entities" during their civil war, or IJA troops getting slaughtered by unknown entities in SE Asia (something about a regiment partially eaten by giant spiders, the others by other scary creatures after they were warned NOT to go up a certain mountain hunting for guerillas!), so its all over the world, there're some primeval ancient forces that modern men shouldn't mess with, and a company of infantry is nothing especially at night! Anyway, many thanks for your stories, and if I come across some good stories from around the world, I'll pass it on!
It was local Karelian natives who said this stuff, though, not the sámi. Somehow Americans have managed to insert the sámi into this story by assuming that "natives" automatically refers to them.
@@SairanBurghausen But aren't the Sami "natives" anyway? The only difference seems to be Christianity, Samis are pagans and they don't trust the Christians (lotsa bad history between them), but yeah, all are original peoples of the land, their presence extended all the way from Iceland to Perm Russia, across multiple national boundaries etc.
@@PreppyNavy23 Lmao most Sámi are protestant, dude. What Marvel MMORPG world are you living in? The strictest protestant sect in the Nordic countries was literally started by a Sámi largely out of the motivation to get rid of alcoholism among his people. It's very populous in the north. Sámi themselves replaced and assimilated already existing people in Finland, and destroyed one population in western Finland in particular. They speak a strange "adopted" Finnic language with more archaic eastern/Permic traits and a very significant substratum of paleo-European vocabulary and influence.
@@SairanBurghausen Really? I was told by our Swedish contacts that they were pagans while the rest of Sweden were Lutherans, so now they're more like the Amish? Interesting! As for their language, never heard it, don't even know how they survived in that harsh land, its all howling winds, scary tall pines and freezing temperatures to me, nah, I'll stay in Helsinki and Stockholm, they got good French wines from the EU there!
@@PreppyNavy23 Well no. It's just the majority of Sámi are protestant or irreligious. The pagan stuff does still exist as well, in a way similar to how it existed among late 1800s/early 1900s Finns. It's there, quite vital, but a very niche thing.
Karelians and Sami are different peoples. Finns, Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are also indigenous to their respective regions. And the Sami were never in Denmark, only in the northern regions of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia. (in the Kola region)
I went there in real life and experienced about zero eerie mist. It’s odd that Stalin wanted the Karelian Isthmus so bad when he believed Hitler would never invade and when they did he was so panicked, he went catatonic for nearly a week.
The Finns and the Germanic peoples are also indigenous to Scandinavia. It seems many Americans have been programmed to view all hunter-gatherer/sedentary population relationships as basically the same as that between Native American Indians and Europeans.
@@x-wing8785 Indigenous does not mean "the original settlers who have remained a minority when another population or culture takes over". I don't know where you got that made up definition from. It means "originating in, or native to". The Sami were the first identifiable people in parts of the Nordic countries, but that doesn't mean the Finns and the Germanic peoples are not indigenous to those countries either. In fact, there are parts of Scandinavia for which there is no evidence that the Sami were the first people in those particular areas, and evidence of other groups going back a very, very long time. Drop the narrative of indigenous people necessarily being some oppressed minority who had all their lands stolen, and of current majority populations as some sort of invaders who just took everything (and who by implication either have no right to their countries, or who owe the "indigenous" people for the crimes they have committed against them). The whole world's history doesn't work the way a left-wing American professor thinks it does.
@@x-wing8785 TH-cam deleted my original response to you, I see. Basically, the definition you gave is a nonsense definition; that is not the definition of the word "indigenous". "Indigenous" means "originating in, or native to". It does not mean "first in", and it certainly doesn't mean what you said it meant in your first comment. I did not use Wikipedia; I used general knowledge plus an actual dictionary. Wikipedia is unreliable, and the article you read was dead wrong when it claimed the Saami were the only indigenous Europeans. The Basques are indigenous. The Indo-Europeans are indigenous, because they originated on the steppe to the north of the Black Sea, which is in Europe. There are megaliths all over Europe from before the Saami. I know that your comment about Wikipedia was an attempted put-down, but all it really did is show you don't know much about this topic in reality and Wikipedia doesn't either. As for the oppression and politics, no , you didn't say anything about that, but it would be very American to start harping on about it at some point, and if you are an American I would not be surprised if this is the direction your mind automatically goes in whenever you start thinking about hunter-gatherers: they had their land stolen, they are oppressed, redress is needed, the majority population actually shouldn't be there. Based on the definition of "indigenous" you gave me I would not be surprised at all.
@@andrewhall7176 the sami are only indigenous to the northern parts of scandinavia, Finland and Russia. The rest of it is either germanic in the case of scandinavia. I dont know much about finnish or russian natives.
Have seen a stone like in the intro. huge boulder being kept up by 3 small stones. was fishing in the fell area in northern finland and happened to come accros of it. nothing happened thou but it was a cool encounter and also have pics of it.
@@IvanIvanoIvanovich Yeah I’m sure I was told that at the time but I forgot. And I studied geology for a year in college! But it was a looooong time ago
Another banger from WS! Love this story, so mysterious, so spooky! So well written, I love the descriptions and sound design! Thanks for the content, keep up the great work!
Look up the deadliest sniper ever. It was a Finn during the era of this Winter War. I think something like 200+ confirmed kills. Even during the height of the viking age, the Norse knew that the Shamanic Finns could mutilate you and offer you up to their strange gods with the widest smiles on their painted faces.
For anyone who might assume this story might be describing a real mystery that actually might've happened, instead of just being a fictional story: The rock formations described in the beginning and middle of the video are widely accepted as natural formations (remnants of the ice age glaciers that would move large boulders that would then end up balanced on top of smaller rocks once the ice melted away, not too uncommon of a phenomenon in this part of the world). The short pine threes on the other hand are far from abnormal, given the elevation of Vottovaara is over 400 meters, which is roughly where the tree line goes at these latitudes. You won't find much trees at all on peaks much higher than that - it would be abnormal for pines to grow much taller than stated here in such a location. You also indeed won't see much insects such as mosquitos at these heights, which is precisely why reindeer seek refuge from the mosquitos on top of fells during summer in Lapland. Then regarding these supposed Sámi people's deeply rooted into 1930's Karelia, according to 17th century sources, local Karelians testified back then that according to their local lore, there were still Sámi people living this far south in Karelia all the way up to mid 15th century (implying not for long after that). Safe to say they weren't around anymore by 1939 and the predominant local native population would've been the Karelians, who've been around in the area for at least a couple millenia*. The Sámi had also been largely converted to christianity throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, though a lot of old traditions were still held on to all the way up to the 1940s and 1950s - they were (and are) still predominantly christian, though. Regardless, no Sámi peoples or especially actual accounts from them are known to have existed in the area in 1939 (quite the contrary), so safe to say the Soviets (I won't say "Russians", because the Soviet troops that were sent to take part in the Winter War were predominantly Ukrainians) would've never encountered any local Sámi people to hear their stories about the area. Vottovaara however is indeed considered to have been an ancient sacred site to the Sámi - just not for several centuries by 1939. The video makes it sound like the Finns simply allowed the Soviets to come in and occupy Vottovaara for their use, which is weird considering it was already back then part of Russia and has in fact never in history been part of Finland, unless you count the Finnish occupation during the Continuation War, during which the Finns used it as an aerial observation post. Considering the distance to the 1939 border (which is where the closest Finnish positions would've actually been) having been about 30km it's probably safe to say the Soviets wouldn't have gotten a very good look at the Finnish positions even if within visible range from that elevation. Likewise it's probably safe to say the Finns were, in fact, not observing the Soviet troops making their way up the mount, let alone climbing it to investigate, as they would've been at least 30km in front of their own lines, deep within enemy territory. In conclusion: it's just a fictional story, as proven by the premise of local Sámi people & nearby Finnish positions. (* It is however a common misconception about genealogy that there's such a thing as specific peoples that originate from somewhere. Reality is quite a bit more complicated (or rather, in fact, simpler) than that. "Karelians" is simply the modern day result of all the people's who've intermingled in the area throughout millenia, so technically "Karelians" haven't really even existed for as long as "they've been there". Similarly, "Finns" wasn't even a concept until the middle ages, despite "having been around" for at least a millenium by then. "Finns", in an ethnic sense, is just what we call the modern day descendants of all the Finnic tribes that have inhabited the region of modern day Finland for the past few millenia, which includes western Karelians)
I really enjoyed this story. I'm a veteran from 86 to 89 I was on active duty in the Army. I stayed in Germany for my whole enlistment. I never experienced anything paranormal or otherwise, but I have always enjoyed hearing strange stories. I appreciate you and all that you do to send out these stories. Thank you brother
As a zoologist, may I suggest you look into the wars between humans and wolves, and check the human hubris at the door. It's not about food. It's about territory and safety. It's an ancient problem. Human behavior has led to full on wars with wildlife. Wolves had sadly been forced to become offensive in European History. Indigenous people learned long ago to respect their territory. It kept peace. Wolves would literally take out groups of humans... WITHOUT WANTING FOOD. Yes even military forces. And the wolves of the early 1900s new how to evade gunfire, cause panic, and attack with strategic persision at night when humans lack their vision. A wolf pack is better then a well trained army in many cases. It's human hubris that makes it hard for us to believe, thinking we would always hit something. Look up the story of Murasa, the lion of the early 2000s that literally pulled humans out of their houses to kill. Humanity needs to think about what it does.
Being a familiar with certain stories and incidents of mother nature at her fiercest such as the tragic U.S.S. Indianapolis sinking resulting in hundreds of men being devoured by sharks and other sea life. What are the chances that do to the conflict a perfect storm was created as for miles and miles every pac of wolves and group of bears were pushed to the edge until enough gather to such an extent that an alpha finally said enough and the predators turned and rushed the Russian forces to the point of we're hundreds of wolves with maybe dozens of bears. As crazy as it sounds modern history has perfect storms like that occurring.
Wolves do not take out a company of soldiers and do not wage a 2 day attack without one or 3of them being shot and bodies being found at the site. That is beyond normal physical predators even of vuing for territory or food. Something is off.
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As someone from the Nordics I will say this: If the locals tells you to stay away from a place or just refers to a place as “bad/evil/wicked”, listen to them! Anyone who has been out there in those woods, hills and mountains knows that there’s some places you just don’t go to…
Any places in mind?
Don't forget warnings from American Natives, Africans, Afghanis, Hindu, older people from Balkans ( Romania, Serbia & Bulgaria for start ), etc. about THEIR cursed places...
You know Russians aren't very good at listening
@@aleksandarvil5718don't forget about a hookers cursed places either!
@@aleksandarvil5718 Don't forget warnings from your abuelita and take a jacket!
As a Finn, I would like to slightly correct the video's interpretation of the Sami people. Vottovaara is located in the Karelia region, no Sámi have lived in this region for hundreds of years, native Karelia people live in the Vottovaara region.the Sami people live in northern Lapland in Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Russia
Kiitos, karjalaisen suvun suomalaisena ei mun sit tartte tota lähtee selittää, mietinkin alusta asti et mitä ihmettä lapin saame mun suvun kotinurkilla tekis, ei ole kun se 500km+ hutiin mennyt tuo.
Never let a lie get in the way of a good story they say
Luuletteko te oikeasti, että saamelaiset ovat aina eläneet tietyillä lapin alueilla? Eikä ole missään vaiheessa liikkuneet muualla Suomessa tai Norjan , Ruotsin ja pohjois venäjän alueilla. Ja toiseksi. Kukaan ei pysty sanomaan tarkkaa aikaa. Koska nuo seidat on sinne väsätty. Tuskin 200 vuotta sitten. 2000 vuotta voi olla lähempänä. Nuo ovat asuttaneet suurta osaa Suomesta kauan ennen kuin "Karjalaiset" ovat alueelle tulleet....Eipä muuta..Omituisia olettamuksia millä ei ole mitään tekemistä todellisuuden kanssa.
Ps. Saamelaiset olivat Nomadeja. Ja aikoinaan tuhansia vuosia sitten Ilmasto oli erinlainen. Porojen muutto vaellus oli aivan erinlainen. Ennen muinoin porot vaelsivat jopa pohjois saksaan lähelle tanskaa. Ja siellä on todistettavasti ansoja poroille tehty kivistä. Jotka ovat tuhansia vuosia vanhoja. Juuri noin vuosi pari sitten oni löytynyt kivinen aitaus johon poroja on aikoinaan ajettu.
Don't you just love it when Americans project American identity politics onto other countries.
Superstitious or not, I’m not going somewhere a local tells me not to. They could tell me it’s a murderous beast and it might not be, but these stories exist for a reason
This point exactly! I don't have to necessarily believe in the supernatural to know that I would rather not fk around and find out in case I piss SOMETHING off (supernatural or natural).
I live near a 7-11. Take it from me, don't go to my local 7-11 at night
@@DWH84 well I don’t live in America so chances of me being near your 7-11 are pretty low
I live by that , it’s just better to be safe then sorry. Native peoples have lived in those areas for thousands of years , so if they tell me something evils in that woods I’m not going in those woods
It can also be a low-key way of the locals saying "We won't like it if you go there."
The Finns letting the Soviets ascend the mountain were living the principle of "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
Must be like the neighbors in Amityville watching a new family move into _that_ house...
Finns are tough and pragmatic folks , if they don't mess around in a certain area you can be assured that there's something unpleasant there .
It's just a story though
@@norgerOr is it…..?
Look up the deadliest sniper ever. It was a Finn during the Era of the Winter War. I think something like 200+ confirmed kills. Even during the height of the viking age, the Norse knew that the Shamanic Finns could mutilate you and offer you up to their strange gods with the widest smiles on their painted faces.
As someone who grew up with "The Twilight Zone" on the tube, and the "CBS Radio Mystery Theater" coming from my little radio at night, this channel touches home. Just love it.
How old are you ?
Ha what serendipity to find your comment. I was just thinking that Luke's narration somewhat reminds me of Rod Serling. And I believe I've watched all his uploads but never had that thought before.
I almost got the same feeling I used to get listening to the twilight zone too. The narrator did a great job
Thanks for actually reading these stories and not using Ai.
He is too skilled and have a perfect voice already to do it. That would be a waste of talent and lazy as F....
I don't blame people that do use AI since not all of us have a cool sounding voice 😅
@@johnssmith4005 Indeed! 🙂
@@johnssmith4005 I just wish they wouldn't all use the same three AI voices lol
i can't stomach AI narration.
I mean, while I'm not going to doubt the finnish's hunting and tracking abilities and their capabilities of identifying animal signs. If I were a soldier who came across that scene after being subject to the sound of screams, gunfire, and grenades for 2 days straight, I personally wouldn't stick around for very long looking for clues.
Honestly fair, I mean, to take the story at face value, to be so afraid of something to take your own life, and to come across such a scene, the stuff of nightmares.
That’s not really that unrealistic, most militaries have it in their doctrine to search dead enemies for intel and possible survivors
But then again the Finnish forces were made up of Sami and local Finns who would not disrespect the mountain like the Russians.
Pretty sure Soviet armies had tons of desertions, for several various reasons, but also where you going to desert TO when you're that deep in random enemy territory/literal wilderness?
@@HtcForever More likely then not those men just killed each other in the dark and the local boys on the other side just chucked it up to "evil mountain did it, let's go home".
This is what happens when you try to skimp on costs and don't hire a witcher.
You're what happens when a 46 year old can't afford an abortion for his teenage second cousin punching bag of a girlfriend
Maybe the MOS didn't exist yet...
hire a witcher? i live in the wrong area. here, when you need something witched, you pretty much do it yourself.
@@AverageAmericana witcher is a professional monster slayer.
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 Okay. No wonder you have to hire them!
I did my time in the Marines and like most I went all over the world and loved it. But for all the fun I had I'll admit there were times where things weren't "normal". children laughing at night in the middle of the jungle where only a helicopter can take you. Finding wolf tracks the size of your hand while at MWTC in Bridgeport CA. Or being in Iraq in the middle of summer at 3AM and the temperature all of a sudden dropping from 98 to the low 40's in just a few minutes and stayed that way for almost 30 minutes before returning the 90's along rout Fiesta...!
SFMF!
Sounds interesting----tell us more! I would like to see if those wolf tracks were abnormal. Were there 2 or 1 set of tracks?
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We heard wolves twice but never saw them. All we saw were tracks and those were the largest set in the pack of tracks. They’re used a muddy road for maybe 500 yards or so before heading back into the woods. Having rained that morning and being as defined as they were we figured they were only hours old tracks. The only reason we saw the “big” tracks is cause I think it was in the back of the pack so it’s prints weren’t trampled.
2 sets by the way.
@@randallbesch2424Wolves are huge animals.. their paw prints are massive
I live in the woods in a temperate forest, and the fox has one of the creepiest vocal ranges I have ever heard. One of its barks sounds exactly like a little girl sobbing, especially if a little distant and broken up by the wind. It is so unnerving to hear a little girl sobbing in the dark forest up a mountain at 2am, where obviously no little girl should be.
@@Herbymac0811sounds like those tracks were either from a single or pair of Dogmen, or large wolves or even Dire Wolves ( giant ice age wolves that supposedly are still around in small groups/ packs in isolated areas).
"Do not dig the holy ground"... There are so many interesting war stories about finnish border areas. Like battle of Raate road. People are still hearing clicking sounds of reloading a rifle and tank tracks ratling in those woods. Soviet 44th division was destroyed there in January 1940. Thank´s for your awesome channel and greetings from Finland!!
Lmao weapons cant be ghosts relax 😂 ya cooked that shrooms wrong
@@GggGgg-ek3dw So let's see, you know for a fact that ghosts are real .... and you're laughing because someone mentioned stories that sound to you like ghost stories but you know they're impossible because you know precisely what ghosts are and aren't.
Also you think shrooms are cooked.
@@audreymuzingo933 ghosts are real, many ppl saw them but they never shoot iron things so story above is exagerrated obv. I would pass this story if id be sceptic tho
I've heard of the accounts of phantom sounds of artillery, cannon and gunfire on the civil war battle fields. Like a recording of events replaying itself in the environment.
@@GggGgg-ek3dw Ghosts can produce such sounds, I would say, or produce that impression in our minds.
As a 🇫🇮 person I've never even heard of this fascinating story. Thanks for sharing! That Finnish English accent was a bit too Russian though 😂 If you have other Finnish war stories and ever need a Finnish voice over, let me know and I'll help.
Honestly same, count me in. I can do French, Italian and Japanese voice overs too 🫡
Did anyone ever do Mineral Exploration in the Area ? There is more to Mineralized areas than people are willing to accept or believe. I have some stories but I’ll keep them to myself this time because in the past I have had too many negative responses about my comments and a lot of them,TH-cam has deleted. Kind of makes me think that they are looking at me as a Liar or troublemaker.
I am at the part where the Finns are talking and I literally paused the video just to look for a comment talking about how Russian and not Finnish they sound, lol. Perhaps the th's turned into t's is the most Finnish feature, but this palatalization helps nothing since only Slavic languages tend to have this phonological phenomenon in the area. Look how they speak the "bellyaching" line
No one in Karelia heard that story bro, it is just fake. Every day and sometimes at night groups of tourists hike there and nothing happens, "ancient gods" are ok with it.
@@nathaliestraussmeyer Yeah I actually thought they were supposed to be soviet soldiers up until the point where one of them mentioned "the reds" lol
As much as modern man might think that some forces do not exist, an ugly wakeup is sometimes warranted.
While an interesting story it was most likely wolves as they are known to slaughter their prey and leave good "meat" lying on the ground to go to waste as I recall stories from Imperial German and Russian troops teaming up in winter months of WW1 to combat hordes of starving uncannily intelligent wolves. i guess one could say the "wolves" were controlled by the boogie man, but the Soviets were pathetic soldiers at the time and were probably scared of their own shadow. The only curious thing about the wolf theory is the Finnish lack denoting any animal bodies the Soviets undoubtedly must have hit, I still say the animal attack explanation is a FAR more realistic and likely truth than some supernatural foe no one has seen since. The Soviets did take the territory eventually after all and nothing of note happened since that one time....does that mean the vaunted "Stallu" bowed before the might of the Red Army juggernaut lol?
I recall finnish troops mutilating bodies to make russians afraid
@joerussell9574 Knowing that some German officers conducted ocullt practices and searched for a supernatural "big stick.". I can't put it past the Soviets finding something supernatural and keeping it under wraps.
@@claudiodominguez. You would think all those occult practices would produce some benefit if real. It's like i always say if the "supernatural" curses and practices were real someone would be using them to conquer the world. I am an open minded skeptic that has seen a UFO but I am not sold on the ghosts and such.
@@claudiodominguez.They searched for many things.
The artworks accompanying your great narration are fantastic. I always get a nice shiver when I spot some glowing eyes, a humanoid shape or a dark silhoutte on the edge of the picture during the story.
Same. 😮
We as humans think we have ot all figured out. Ignorance and Egotism is our biggest downfall. There is so much we just cannot comprehend.
Humans dont think we have everything figured out... Have you heard about fucking scientists? thats what theyre for. their entire job is to figure shit out
This a deep comment right here
Finland had 4 million people and 4,000,000,000,000 mosquitos in 1939 - and possibly even more today. A friend of mine went on holiday there back in the 1970's and came back looking like Frankenstein's monster, his face nearly unrecognisable through swolen midge bites.
gawd that sounds like Alaska!
Wow, I didn't know mosquitoes could live in cold weather
@@janejones8672
In the summer, my friend, in the summer.
@@AverageAmerican
Really ? Didn't know that. In Finland in the summer, due to the countless lakes, you literally get eaten by mosquitos. It is a beautiful country and well worth the visit but one has tp plan accordingly to avoid the season of little flying vampires.
That's why Siberia are mostly empty
I found this on the local guide's site, "Vottovaara is shrouded in a huge number of legends that multiply and multiply. This is also facilitated by the numerous seidas erected by someone in this region and the gloomy swamps interspersed with rocks and stories about shamans living on the mountain. The mountain of Vottovaara is confused with the mountain of Death, which is located nearby. Death Mountain is so named because a partisan brigade died here in 1942." I think all this happened on another mountain.
In Soviet Russia, mountains climb you.
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@@damiens6465and you have the worst 🍅🍅🍅
So true mountains made those reds there girl friend
When you turn 16 you wrestle bear.
But a bear against 100 men with rifles and grenades? I don't think that's possible. Sure it could get one or two, but not the whole company. I don't even think a polar bear could have done that. Maybe if they all had 9mm pistols. But there are stories of single people killing brown bears with 9mm. Rifles bullets have the power to penetrate, which would easily kill a bear.
The self ending is what really makes it seem supernatural. Let's say it's a bear, you don't shoot yourself, you get into a group so nobody gets picked off. Like you say, if a few were taken, then everyone else would team up on the bear/pack of wolves.
A polar bear, shot by 100 men armed with 9 mm pistols? The bear would still hurt.
@@OswaltSamuel i think a bunch of Finns ambushed those Soviets and mutiliated them, to strike fear among the Soviet ranks, if they sent out a search party to find out what happened to them.
Unless the bear was itself was supernatural
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 Word would get out after some time, very unrealistic.
Great episode! I'm from Sweden and I was entirely unfamiliar with this tale from our neighbours in the north. Also great to see your illustrations just get better and better, they add so much atmosphere to the stories.
Years ago I came across the remains of a moose that had been brought down and eaten by a pack of wolves. The event happened probably the night before I saw it and you could almost picture the scene as it unfolded because the evidence was all over the snow. It’s a scene I won’t forget. I can imagine how much more terrible this must have appeared.
I really appreciate you drawing and reading these stories instead of using an annoying AI voice and stock images
Absolutely one of the BEST channels on TH-cam!! Great job again to all involved in the making!
Hostile landscape, cantolizing terrain, and a demon possessed mountain. And yet the scariest thing in Finland still manages to be the Finns.
Great video as usual, bro. Keep up the awesome work
We are scary if you piss us off.. otherwise we are pretty chill 🐻
They are very mysterious people, like their land
The Finns are not to be underestimated. They were able to hold out against the soviet union when stalin was in power. They are brave and resilient people.
Their descendants of my fellow Norse/Viking ansisters, so they are either your best friend and teacher, or your worst nightmare. It's in our nature.
@@CodyHomes Finns are NOT Norse, dude. I know it's an easy misconception to arrive at because we're neighbours, but it's no different than calling Amazigh/Berbers as Arabs just because they've lived alongside one another.
We need more of these lesser known stories. Perhaps the answer is mundane, but i have seen things that make me think that theres somethings we just dont comprehend. The world is so spectacular, how could it be so mundane?
0:41 the massive stone formations were used to communicate or infrom of danger coming to village etc the stones were made to hit each other hard so it would make a massive sound to warn nearby villages. sorry for bad english the making of those stone formations was explained in history lessons in school but cant remember how they made it
Here I am, painting toy soldiers and listening to Luke's dulcet tones, and a fresh video pops up. It's meant to be.
What soldiers are you painting, mate
im painting my first battletech mini as i listen to this myself
@@welshman8954 couple of Chaos Space Marines and a few dwarves.
@@marsar1775 have fun, homie! Remember to thin your paints and don't forget about dry brushing
@@MarkfromInfectous2 nice! I'm modeling a gang for Necromunda Ash Wastes inspired by the Moritifiers from the new Furiosa madman flick.
Reminds of the Secret War episode of Love, Death, and Robots.
YESSSSS! Thank you for noticing the connection
i was gonna make this commet to!!!
I was going to say that too.
Yeah maybe that's what it was based on.
That was the first thing i thought as well. Damn, i wish we could have a full series based on just that one episode, it was so good
This guy has one of the greatest narration voices ever. It's so soothing.
As a finn, there are definitely some unknown things out there in our deep woods that we dont know of. I’ve had several encounters with things that got me the chills and real fear.
In Finland or vottovaara?
Yeah same, many wierd things. Just week ago when we were on Halla-Aho's familys cottage we took some pics of our drunken friend and after coming home we saw some old lady standing on the picture outside at 2am in the middle of nowhere. Still gives me the creeps. And didn't help that my friend woke up in the middle of the night hearing scratching sounds coming from the wall of the sauna building where he was sleeping, after banging at the wall where he heard the sound just jumped toward the door and he called my friend to go save him. Only thing he saw was a humanoid figure but more an animal looking that didn't fit into its body... scary stuff
@@spuqe69Ei perkele jätkä on päässy Halla-Ahon mökille :DDD mutjuu, kuulostaa kyl aika perus suomalais-ugrilainen metsä keissiltä
@@spuqe69 Ok aika raju tarina luulin et suomi on tylsä paikka missä ei ikinä tapahdu mitään creepyä. Ok pretty sick story i always thought that Finland is a boring place were never happends anything creepy.
@@spuqe69humanoid? Animal like? What kind of animal?
Spotted this on our TH-cam home page and thought, 'Ooh, Friday night treat!' Grabbed some nibbles and sat to watch.
Very interesting and bizarre story. My husband finds it particularly interesting as he worked with someone Finnish, who was a petite HR person and a real sweetie. He would stop and chat to her often and learned from her what Finland was like. And because of her he looked up the history of Finland on Wikipedia, which he would advise anyone to do, and learned what a troubled history they have had with Sweden or Russia taking it in turn to invade. The one thing that seems to have held them together as a country is their language, which is very unique in comparison to surrounding countries.
As others have said, we could listen to you for much longer. You are a great narrator and the scripts are very well written. And of course there is the brilliant artwork and the dialogue with the characters. Gives a sense of reality and puts you in the moment.
Keep up the great work. Love from England.
Never Ever Call Someone Petite again
They are kind of like the Basque between Spain and France and yet have their own language.
@@DJVideso Well, what if she is petite? What's another option? Tiny?
@@RobertStewart-i3m Calling someone petite is so weird
@@DJVidesomidget then
Thank God, something decent to listen to that isn't just politicians bitching. Thank you so much for all the hard work, your videos are appreciated so much! Always interesting and informative, and produced very professionally.
This definitely made my evening having wartime stories show up
This was truly chilling. Thank you. I think that the land has its own ideas about who should go there, and who should not. Or something(s) so old that they may as well be the land.
Skinwalker specifically refers to several types of evil Navajo witches. Even in traditions of neighboring tribes like the Hopi or Ute, skinwalkers are Navajo witches.
Other tribes may have their own witches that can shapeshift, and medicine people that may shapeshift, but they are not the same as skinwalkers, which are specifically types of Navajo witches.
No wonder the Navajo don't want to talk to outsiders about such things (apart from not wanting to attract their attention, same reason many Irish and Scottish people don't talk about fairies. If they do they use nice euphemisms like "the good people" or "the noble people" so as not to piss them off). We get ahold of an idea and next thing we end up with Finnish "skinwalkers" or turn them into pop culture figures and horror stories.
Same with Wendigos, which are a specific type of being (a type of evil spirit or demon, and those who become possessed by that demon) in the traditions of certain tribes of Eastern Canada and Northeastern U.S., but now they apparently turn up anywhere and everywhere and bear little to no resemblance to the indigenous tradition.
Heck, we've done the same to some of our European traditions. Leprechauns have become funny little guys looking for their lucky charms (or murderous creatures), fairies have become essentially bugs with human bodies, elves make toys or cookies, gnomes hang out in gardens getting shat upon by birds and squirrels... 🤷🏻
That's what we do, I suppose. But the sad thing is the original traditions, which are inportant parts of human history and culture, end up getting lost or forgotten, replaced by the caricatures we created.
Thank you for this comment. I always scratch my head when I hear a story about, for instance, a w*ndigo in the desert SW of the United States. Like uhhhhh those aren't from these parts. You probably encountered something weird but, my friend, I do not think it was a desert w*ndigo.
I think the only thing about specifically "skinwalkers" is that the word sounds like a generic catch-all for "things that walk in different skins". Kinda like how "shaman" is used as a generic term for holy person or medicine worker when it's actually a specific title from a specific people.
@@kats9755 The Finnic Koirankuonalaiset are not that different from skinwalkers tbqh
The internet takes a people's culture and turns them into a meme. It's how it's always been
It is because human culture evolves and changes over time.
Finnish wendigos? So just regular Finns lmao. Vikings thought Finns could shapeshift and control the weather.
Trolls/goblins/evil fae live in places like that. Between the big rocks. And bears.. I had a Karelian bear dog. Best dog I have ever had. Great video, Thank You and Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮
Each one of these stories reminds me of my grandpas stories of being in the jungle of vietnam and mysterious things would happen to his unit. Nothing violent just weird and creepy
Ooohhhh...can you elaborate at all? I love reading creepy stories in the comments!
@rebeccalove9169 well one of em was on a dark night no moon out or any natural light out except stars. His squad was away from the main unit not by far maybe 100 yards at most. Everyone was asleep except for him and his buddy. There was 12 of em at the time all sleeping in a small area taking turns on guard duty. Well my gramps and his buddy were up telling stories of their childhood on their watch. When what he could only describe was the wailing of a dieing woman in the trees that sounded very close. The noise was loud enough it woke the rest of the troop. Their sarg asked em what the hell that was and neither could answer because they had no idea what just happened. The sarg has 3 people after that be on watch. We'll the next morning they scout around the area and close to were they stopped to rest for the night was something none of them could expect. Less then 30 yards away there was the remains of a fire and small tombstone that read "here lies a mother taken to soon from her family by her evil husband." He claims it was dated 1885 to 1915 with no name on it. He went onto claim more stuff similar happened but none with as vivid of clarity of sound like on that night. His squad also kept having personal effects go missing and how some would have their bags moved on em.
PLEASE TELL 😂
Well they ran into weird and terrifying sounds at night that came from destroyed huts and burned villages. Once he told me his squad was doing a 2 day patrol and that night they stopped to get some sleep. Only to be waken by a animalistic scream and a pack missing. They checked out the area it came from and there was a family graveyard in that direction with the pack in the middle of the graves
There's more but those I remember because he seemed really creeped out just telling me em. That man never got creeper out by anything
More people need to know about the Sami and the indigenous tribes of Siberia. They were there during WWII and played pivotal roles, but because their populations are so small and strewn across such wide and desolate distances, they are often erased.
Don't forget the active effort by the Soviet Union to erase the history of things they don't like.
@@randomlyentertaining8287 the Soviets actually liked the Tribals.
Sadly i only even know about the Sami because of Crusader Kings 3, had it not been for that i never would have even glanced at that part of the world
They’re basically Russia’s American Indians .
In all fairness, I wouldn't say they're being erased so much as just overlooked due to small numbers and lack of history-changing events.
Bears are most unlikely candidate because they mostly spend their winters in hibenation. They may occasionally wake up from the hibernation but won't wander off from their nest.
And the idea of multiple bears banding together to destroy an infantry company on a mountain top over 2 days is silly.
@@dlxmarks It might be silly but whatever dogmatic skeptics can pull out of their butts to grasp at to avoid having to grapple with the fact that paranormal entities might just actually exist, they will take it. Anything but the paranormal *must* be the explanation they say. Anything, no matter how far reaching the answer is, no matter how much more a paranormal explanation makes sense than more mundane explanations in a certain case, etc, must be the answer instead of the paranormal.
Giants
@@dlxmarks yes, and no.... waking up hibernating bears can be a deadly mistake. BUt.... this would need more than one....
and they most definitely wouldn't expend all that energy if they did wake up
My Brother. As someone with both Sami and Norse blood, I can say with certainty that the Swedes, Danes, Finns, and Norse are all indigenous peoples of Scandinavia.
Please stop this, American...
This is wrong in multiple ways.
For starters, you said Swedes and Danes twice because you don't seem to understand that "Norse" doesn't mean (what I think you're meaning to say) Norwegian. It's a blanket term to refer to EVERYONE in the Nordic ethnic group, so Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Faroese, and Icelanders, among some other insular groups of Nordic people.
Second, not only are Finns not indigenous to Scandinavia, but they don't even inhabit Scandinavia! Finland is explicitly excluded from Scandinavia by every credible source.
Finally, and most importantly, while the term indigenous can mean "from (i.e., native to) a certain region," that is the biological definition and is meaningless when comparing populations of people. The definition when talking about people you should use is the anthropological definition which refers to what group of people have inhabited the region the longest.
Thanks Luke. I always love a new episode from you!
Who's Luke and how do u know this is luke
Oooh, a mystery from the Winter War.
Thank you for the wonderful narration. This channel should have a million subscribers! ❤
A note about the Sami, the Scandinavian and Nordic people are indigenous to Europe as well. Europeans have been living in Europe for tens of thousands of years. Theyre indigenous.
literally never watched a single out of your videos before. I'm writing this bit 00:13 seconds in. Your voice is fantastic, majestic even.
The thing that makes me doubt that they were attacked by animals is that they were apparently torn apart but not eaten. If it had been animals there would probably not be much left of those soldiers. I feel there's definitely something spooky going on in that mountain. Anyway, love from Finland, it's always cool to hear new stories about my country 💙🇫🇮
Ya I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the average finn soldier is familiar with what a wolf or bear attack looks like.
Probably sub terrestrial giants they like to go by ET nowadays but they have a horrible MO that ties into cattle mutilations and they like to attack Russians in the mountains like they did at Dyatlov with the ten or eleven hikers...
its finland, not like the local wildlife could clear hundreds of bodies within hours or days.
If the Russians had been attacked by animals, they wouldn’t have been taking their own lives because animals aren’t as terrifying as all that.
With animals, they would’ve had a chance to shoot and kill… No reason to kill themselves
Wolves can get the same frenzy as dogs, when they just start pulling shit apart in manic fashion and even fight among themselves, eating only later. I think the Russians couldve surprised a pack and this was the result. Bears usually eat readymade carcasses they come upon and lynxes are loners, same as wolverines, I doubt they are the culprit here, company of soldiers is just too big. Moose would be a possibility, they are absolutely unpredictable and easily spooked savages. Another point is we did a lot of psychological warfare, we kinda had to against enemy so massive, this story might just be part of that.. but that would completely ruin a great story :)
10:20 the Sami are pretty much far away from Denmark, the closest thing is that the danish crown reigned over them when Denmark and Norway were in a personal union until the early 19th century.
Finland *and* Wartime Stories?
Dinner is *served*!
This is one of the most professionally, captivating channels on this platform, he has a perfect voice for this type of content, not to mention how he enthralls the listeners as to almost put you at the scene of the event at hand
Anyone hearing the descriptions of the mechanism of injury of the corpses and claiming it was a bear or wolves is some cube gopher who's vast knowledge of the wilderness comes from watering their houseplants. I live in Alaska and I've seen bear mauling victims- both survivors brought into our ER and those who's bodies were eaten that we had to recover- and have seen remains scavenged by wolves (they didn't kill the person, post-mortem scavenging up north of here) and they don't leave bodies in the conditions described. That isn't even taking into account that I live with these creatures, there's a wolf pack not a half mile from here and a momma bear and her cubs currently snoozing away three hundred yards up the mountain behind the hospital I'm working in right now. There is no way in the nineteen flaming hells of tap-dancing China that they would attack a large group of armed men over two nights and kill all of them. They might attack and pick off a straggler or two, but to engage the entire unit in what sounds like a full-on frontal assault? No way in hell, their goal is food, not vengeance. One or two men would be enough to feed a pack and they would snatch and drag the bodies off to a safe place to feed, not stick around for two nights going John Wick on the ten frillion men with the bang sticks and boom rocks. I also know Finns, and I know the Sámi by reputation, they aren't prone to BSing so if they say it happened I believe them. If they say the Soviet troops were torn apart like this, with no animal bodies found, I say stay the hell off of the mountain and call it a day.
The sámi though have absolutely nothing to do with this story. Seems a foreign (most likely American) misreading and conclusion has had them take the term "native" (here referring to local Karelians and Finnish-Karelians) and assume it refers to the sámi.
The fact you can positively identify and know for certain the abilities of these predators and you saying there's no way in hell they would've done what happened just makes this story all the more terrifying.
It makes one think that Vootavaara is home to something ancient and vengeful. And those dudes came in too big a number with malicious intent and that probably pissed it off.
@@CherokeeFlutist59 To me, the real question here is just how accurate any descriptions even are. We have very little more than a handful of anecdotes. I can't call it a good example of anything.
@@marhawkman303 that's a fair assumption. Does make for a scary ass thought, though. But that is a true thing, it did happen over 70 years ago and details could've been lost and mixed up.
@@marhawkman303 you gotta admit though, even with those flaws, it's still a pretty good war horror story.
Question is how real is it? We may never know.
This is another one for the horror playlist, nice job
First of all, I love your channel. The script, Luke, the narrator, the artwork... All of it. It's amazing.
And then (even though I truly enjoy the hair-raising mix of wartime and the supernatural), I'm going to be a bit of a wet blanket. Here goes: Hypothermia, especially extreme cases, can certainly cause hallucinations. I live in a reasonably northern area at a fairly high elevation. And I've done some amateur research, especially after researching the Dyatlov Pass incident. There. The logical part of my brain is satisfied. Needless to say, I also believe that some "border" type natural landscapes can be a type of gateway. As the famous, fictional detective says, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Wonderful stuff! Thank you!
Fantastic storytelling as always - thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
The twisted, stunted trees make me think "microclimate". That tends to happen when trees are surviving, but struggling to do so in the face of icy winds. Likewise, I'd always do your best to go back to primary sources on any kind of indigenous-sourced information. For example, the original Mansi that Kholat Syakhl (the mountain where Dyatlov Pass is) translates from does mean "dead mountain"... but it can also translate as "silent peak" and, if you ask them for an explanation, it's meant more as "Nothing to hunt there. Don't bother." than as something creepy.
The Kholat in Kholat Syakhl is a cognate with Finnish Kuolo (also meaning death), as Mansi and Finnish are related languages. There's a somewhat corresponding mountain in East Finland called Koli, where legends have long been told about deadly and hostile spirits known as "mustarinnan murhat miehet" or "the murderous men of Black Chest." Also a local legend about a Finnish shaman using a "cave temple" inside the mountain to conduct rituals, making the rocks shake and the waters boil.
Yeah, Kholat Syakhl is basically the Mansi sister of Koli mountain in Finland, based on the presence of evil spirits and even down to the meaning of the name
@@SairanBurghausen I think I'll trust the sources dug up by The Lore Lodge's Aiden Mattis (who is a trained historian and folklorist and, thus, knows how to dig up trustworthy sources) which say they named it "dead peak" because they named it before the climate warmed (relatively recently) when it was cold enough that the mountaintop was all bare shale and snow.
@@ssokolow I'm very familiar with Aiden and I don't recall saying anything contradictory. You sound very autistic.
You're exactly right, it's microclimate, but especially the amount of soil and consequently the amount of water and nutrients. Much of the area is exposed rock and I guarantee you won't be able to sink the blade of a shovel all the way into what little soil there is.
Thank you for your hard work researching these stories. I love them. You just made my night better. Blessings to you and your family.🇺🇸
im sorry but 100 soldiers throwing high power rifle rounds and grenades at a pack of wolves or a bear and losing? uh uh, no way. just 1 bullet can kill either animal. so even if they were terrible shots and had a 40% hit ratio they still woulda won that fight EZ. and for them to off themselves? whatever they encountered had to be a unimaginable horror
I thought, because there is no real vegitation and no animals it might be a enviromental hazard
Dogmatic skeptics: Yeah but there is no such thing as the paranormal, it's all a bunch of woo.
Believers in the paranormal: So you aren't even going to consider the possibility that this might have been some type of horrible paranormal entity that ripped these entities to shreds?
Dogmatic skeptics: Nope, not gonna do it.
Soviets probably were fighting their own troops because some try to get out of the mountain before the cold took them, but the military didnt allow that to happen. "Not one step back!"
@@blair3549 seriously dude
@@PhillyEaglesFanatic Maybe what we consider paranormal isn‘t paranormal at all, but we can‘t comprehend it with our materialistic brain. Over the centuries much ancient knowledge got lost and today we know how to build phones and cars, but we can‘t be sure of what exactly lives beyond the borders of our save cities. The possibility exists, that some ancient species manage to hide away from us, just because we don‘t, pay attention anymore
I absolutely love this channel. The narration, the black & white animation.
Of course wartime stories drops a banger right after I end work on a Friday ! Well gonna have to book mark it for Monday ! Love your content thank you from just a guy in a wood shop in New Jersey
There are countless stories about such events in Finnish war history, all the way from ancient sagas about Bjarmians and Kvens to spooky stuff from the 1600s.
Specific areas too like Koli are filled with folklore about "dangerous spirits", known on mount Koli as "the murderous men of the black chest".
Where can we find these, preferably in English, please, if possible?
@@amethyst1826 Pretty much impossible in English. They're even difficult to find in Finnish online. Usually you already gotta know what you're looking for and the specific key words.
That's a terrifying name
Oh and for those who are into Missing 411: in Finland we have a folklore phenomenon called Metsänpeitto which is pretty much identical to those disappearances as well as Native American/Japanese/etc legends about "spiriting away" in general. Everything from "the forest suddenly going quiet" to "people taking their clothes off or wearing them in reverse" to "the person is found in a spot searched many times over because they haven't actually moved far away, they're in the same spot but within another 'layer' of reality." It's scary how similar these beliefs are despite these peoples being disconnected by thousands of kilometers.
@@riftvallance2087 I'd say the most terrifying name/term in our military history is one that's been used to refer to the most horrifying/deadly of the Finnish (including Tavastian and Karelian) guerrilla chiefs: "Murhanenkeli", or "Angel of Murder".
Interesting characters from this category (which will definitely be to your taste if you're into both spooky folklore and military history), would be....
Pekka Vesainen, an ostrobothnian chieftain who fought the Russians for decades and had his family massacred multiple times over. He carried out the massacre of the monks at the Kandalaksha monastery.
Musta Nykyri, a similar figure who had tanned skin and dark hair, loud as a beast and a giant of a man.
Vesainen also had a Karelian rival called Iivana Rokačču.
All of them are famous for being these shadowy figures leading men through rivers and forests and snowy plains to ambush and assault larger forces and towns, taking no prisoners and waging war with terror. All of them are also associated with supernatural abilities, ancient Finnish shamanism and the like.
During the Winter War, Finnish troops would sometimes take dead Soviet soldiers whose bodies had frozen solid and position them in strange poses, such as head down in the snow to scare the Soviets. This gave rise to a lot of myths about monsters in the forests.
Many doubts come up here...for instance, wasn't a single autopsy performed to find out the causes of 100 deaths ? What happened after the Finns discovered the killed Soviets ? Did the Finns occupy that post for observation ? If they didn't, did the Soviets try to reach that same spot again ? What was the official Soviet explanation for such massacre ?
Too many unanswered questions thus making this episode highly doubtful.
I was not expecting a video about Karelian Skinwalkers today
yikes
Makes me think of an Until Dawn Wendigo zipping around. Maybe the same supernatural creature tales are based on, like widespread vampire and wolfman tales across the globe. Or a cousin of it. Very fascinating.
@@TealWolf26 monsters are real
@@AverageAmerican They're not, unless we're speaking of humans that act like monsters.
@@spao9411 Sure, certain Hebrew Sheeple act like monsters. But do you think all people came from Adam while Holy Scripture is clear about two races who did not?
History class with a bonus horror story in the middle. Amazing as always
Hi Luke! Keep doing what you're doing man! Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲.
Amazing work guys !! ❤😍😇🙏🏻
Such a high quality channel. I think more frequent uploads would propel this channel to a million subs in no time!
You have the best videos out there. you and mr ballen are my favorite channels.
Don't forget Bedtime Stories!
Ciao sir! Thanks so much for another mysterious, awesome video’ 👍🏼❤️
Who makes the digital artwork for your videos man its looks amazing
I think he does? If I remember properly from one of his other videos
@@MrWolff97 At first it was Mickey Turcanu like on the sister channel "Bedtime Stories" but I think it's someone else now. Mickey got too busy doing Bedtime Stories if I recall correctly. I would like Luke to confirm just to be sure.
@@mistral-unizion-music Negative. The reason Luke wanted to partner with Bedtime Stories was bcuz his artwork was so similar to Mickey's, and his channel was just as unique, and it seemed a no-brainer. When approached with the idea, Bedtime Stories decided to make Wartime Stories a sister channel. But Luke did his own artwork and maybe still does... He has an audio person that does all the sound editing.
@@AverageAmerican Ok, good to know. If so, then he has even more talent than I thought!
Finally a new one!!! Absolutely love your channel and the stories. Thanks fior sharing it to us
My deepest condolences and respect for those brave warriors. There's actually a place in Siberia called Yakutia about space weapons, beings from outer space, and also radioactive contamination back in 1800s.
Yaaaaaaay!! A new one, & I'm early to it for a nice change!!
Hi everyone, I hope you're all well.
Hey love your videos but im sorry but"Sami Are indigenous to Scandinavian" and say that the Sami Are in Danmark is not true.
The Sami Are nadiv to Lapland and also live in the most north part of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia
The Sami have never been to Danmark
As Dane i felt the need to say
Anyway love your videos, keep posting
I don't know too much about Sámi, but even I thought it is impossible for them to be natives of Denmark. Luke really needs to do more historical research before making his videos.
Also, the people who were to become the Swedes and Norwegians settled before the Sami, at least in the southern parts of Scandinavia. So, we are the true indigenous peoples.
@@Puttrich who settled before the swedes and Norwegians? Or was the land completely empty before then?
@@crazysilly2914according to the internet atleast the scandinavians arrived about 10 000 years ago while the sami arrived in the northern parts about 1500 to 1400 years ago
@@nikolaimyklebust7396 ok. The Sami are tunguskic/turkic, right? I read somewhere that the Japanese and (non-scandinavian) ethnic Finns are distantly related, because a tunguskic/turkic people group split directions, some went west to Scandinavia and intermarried with europeans, some moved east and intermarried with Mongolians/ainu/chinese to create the Japanese.
Class as usual Luke, love seeing the upload notice, only complaint is too few and far between :)
What's interesting about the Winter War is that when originally planning the campaign Soviet command drew up a rather simple straightforward plan to make a single thrust on the capital, Helsinki, but Stalin went nah I want convoluted, highly complicated, dispersed assault along the breadth of the border. This led to the many isolated columns bogged down on bad roads that made them easy pickings for Finnish light troops. Once the Soviets went back to the original plan of concentrating their forces they were then able to punch through to Helsinki and forced the capitulation of Finland.
Soviets never got close to helsinki.
@@spao9411 I never said they took Helsinki.
I said that they made a thrust i.e. an offensive in the Karellian Isthmus with the intention of striking the capital, but the war ended with a negotiated peace before this came to fruition.
Greetings from Redlands, CA. Thanks for the great show. Just discovered your channel. Keep them coming.
Russian soldiers: wtf was that thing?
Simo Häyhä: let me cook
Who let that lier cook?
@@pechkin9474 name and subscriptions check out
That guy is a one man army
@@pechkin9474 why do you call him a liar?
@@markjackson3531 because he lied about his number of kills. In his words, he made more attacks in different months what Soviets recorded officially. I guess he fought his own vision problems
I see new a Wartime stories upload and I just click.
yes, another cryptid/mystery story. thanks w.stories.
I can't think of anything more immersion breaking than an ad break
Man, I see a new video from you in my feed and everything else gets pushed back. I stop everything to watch it. You're a great storyteller! Thanks for such a great channel.
Many thanks! I worked in Russia a while ago, and traveled up to Karelia and Finland as well. That region? The further north you go, the scarier things get, especially when you see the forest at night! If the Samis (I knew about them, poor guys were VERY badly treated by the Swedes, not so well by the Finns too) tell you not to tread on a certain place, your blood's on your own head if you go further! That said, stories like that happened in Asia too, there are stories about Chinese PLA troops bumping into weird local "entities" during their civil war, or IJA troops getting slaughtered by unknown entities in SE Asia (something about a regiment partially eaten by giant spiders, the others by other scary creatures after they were warned NOT to go up a certain mountain hunting for guerillas!), so its all over the world, there're some primeval ancient forces that modern men shouldn't mess with, and a company of infantry is nothing especially at night! Anyway, many thanks for your stories, and if I come across some good stories from around the world, I'll pass it on!
It was local Karelian natives who said this stuff, though, not the sámi. Somehow Americans have managed to insert the sámi into this story by assuming that "natives" automatically refers to them.
@@SairanBurghausen But aren't the Sami "natives" anyway? The only difference seems to be Christianity, Samis are pagans and they don't trust the Christians (lotsa bad history between them), but yeah, all are original peoples of the land, their presence extended all the way from Iceland to Perm Russia, across multiple national boundaries etc.
@@PreppyNavy23 Lmao most Sámi are protestant, dude. What Marvel MMORPG world are you living in? The strictest protestant sect in the Nordic countries was literally started by a Sámi largely out of the motivation to get rid of alcoholism among his people. It's very populous in the north. Sámi themselves replaced and assimilated already existing people in Finland, and destroyed one population in western Finland in particular. They speak a strange "adopted" Finnic language with more archaic eastern/Permic traits and a very significant substratum of paleo-European vocabulary and influence.
@@SairanBurghausen Really? I was told by our Swedish contacts that they were pagans while the rest of Sweden were Lutherans, so now they're more like the Amish? Interesting! As for their language, never heard it, don't even know how they survived in that harsh land, its all howling winds, scary tall pines and freezing temperatures to me, nah, I'll stay in Helsinki and Stockholm, they got good French wines from the EU there!
@@PreppyNavy23 Well no. It's just the majority of Sámi are protestant or irreligious. The pagan stuff does still exist as well, in a way similar to how it existed among late 1800s/early 1900s Finns. It's there, quite vital, but a very niche thing.
Karelians and Sami are different peoples. Finns, Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are also indigenous to their respective regions. And the Sami were never in Denmark, only in the northern regions of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia. (in the Kola region)
Wow what an incredible story. Chilling to say the least.
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I went there in real life and experienced about zero eerie mist. It’s odd that Stalin wanted the Karelian Isthmus so bad when he believed Hitler would never invade and when they did he was so panicked, he went catatonic for nearly a week.
This is probably where Love Death Robots got the inspiration for Secret War
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The Finns and the Germanic peoples are also indigenous to Scandinavia. It seems many Americans have been programmed to view all hunter-gatherer/sedentary population relationships as basically the same as that between Native American Indians and Europeans.
@@x-wing8785 Indigenous does not mean "the original settlers who have remained a minority when another population or culture takes over". I don't know where you got that made up definition from. It means "originating in, or native to". The Sami were the first identifiable people in parts of the Nordic countries, but that doesn't mean the Finns and the Germanic peoples are not indigenous to those countries either. In fact, there are parts of Scandinavia for which there is no evidence that the Sami were the first people in those particular areas, and evidence of other groups going back a very, very long time. Drop the narrative of indigenous people necessarily being some oppressed minority who had all their lands stolen, and of current majority populations as some sort of invaders who just took everything (and who by implication either have no right to their countries, or who owe the "indigenous" people for the crimes they have committed against them). The whole world's history doesn't work the way a left-wing American professor thinks it does.
@@x-wing8785 TH-cam deleted my original response to you, I see.
Basically, the definition you gave is a nonsense definition; that is not the definition of the word "indigenous". "Indigenous" means "originating in, or native to". It does not mean "first in", and it certainly doesn't mean what you said it meant in your first comment.
I did not use Wikipedia; I used general knowledge plus an actual dictionary. Wikipedia is unreliable, and the article you read was dead wrong when it claimed the Saami were the only indigenous Europeans. The Basques are indigenous. The Indo-Europeans are indigenous, because they originated on the steppe to the north of the Black Sea, which is in Europe. There are megaliths all over Europe from before the Saami.
I know that your comment about Wikipedia was an attempted put-down, but all it really did is show you don't know much about this topic in reality and Wikipedia doesn't either.
As for the oppression and politics, no , you didn't say anything about that, but it would be very American to start harping on about it at some point, and if you are an American I would not be surprised if this is the direction your mind automatically goes in whenever you start thinking about hunter-gatherers: they had their land stolen, they are oppressed, redress is needed, the majority population actually shouldn't be there. Based on the definition of "indigenous" you gave me I would not be surprised at all.
@@andrewhall7176 the sami are only indigenous to the northern parts of scandinavia, Finland and Russia. The rest of it is either germanic in the case of scandinavia. I dont know much about finnish or russian natives.
@@obiwankenobi7306 Exactly!
Have seen a stone like in the intro. huge boulder being kept up by 3 small stones. was fishing in the fell area in northern finland and happened to come accros of it. nothing happened thou but it was a cool encounter and also have pics of it.
I’ve seen them in the Western USA too No one knows how they did it
@@daniakalainaThey are natural features. Boulders were transported by glaciers and left balanced atop smaller rocks.
@@IvanIvanoIvanovich Yeah I’m sure I was told that at the time but I forgot. And I studied geology for a year in college! But it was a looooong time ago
Another banger from WS! Love this story, so mysterious, so spooky! So well written, I love the descriptions and sound design! Thanks for the content, keep up the great work!
Look up the deadliest sniper ever. It was a Finn during the era of this Winter War. I think something like 200+ confirmed kills. Even during the height of the viking age, the Norse knew that the Shamanic Finns could mutilate you and offer you up to their strange gods with the widest smiles on their painted faces.
Simo Hayha (spelling may be off)
The White Death(based)
505 confirmed, 550 estimated and 250 with smg unconfirmed
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For anyone who might assume this story might be describing a real mystery that actually might've happened, instead of just being a fictional story:
The rock formations described in the beginning and middle of the video are widely accepted as natural formations (remnants of the ice age glaciers that would move large boulders that would then end up balanced on top of smaller rocks once the ice melted away, not too uncommon of a phenomenon in this part of the world). The short pine threes on the other hand are far from abnormal, given the elevation of Vottovaara is over 400 meters, which is roughly where the tree line goes at these latitudes. You won't find much trees at all on peaks much higher than that - it would be abnormal for pines to grow much taller than stated here in such a location. You also indeed won't see much insects such as mosquitos at these heights, which is precisely why reindeer seek refuge from the mosquitos on top of fells during summer in Lapland.
Then regarding these supposed Sámi people's deeply rooted into 1930's Karelia, according to 17th century sources, local Karelians testified back then that according to their local lore, there were still Sámi people living this far south in Karelia all the way up to mid 15th century (implying not for long after that). Safe to say they weren't around anymore by 1939 and the predominant local native population would've been the Karelians, who've been around in the area for at least a couple millenia*. The Sámi had also been largely converted to christianity throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, though a lot of old traditions were still held on to all the way up to the 1940s and 1950s - they were (and are) still predominantly christian, though. Regardless, no Sámi peoples or especially actual accounts from them are known to have existed in the area in 1939 (quite the contrary), so safe to say the Soviets (I won't say "Russians", because the Soviet troops that were sent to take part in the Winter War were predominantly Ukrainians) would've never encountered any local Sámi people to hear their stories about the area. Vottovaara however is indeed considered to have been an ancient sacred site to the Sámi - just not for several centuries by 1939.
The video makes it sound like the Finns simply allowed the Soviets to come in and occupy Vottovaara for their use, which is weird considering it was already back then part of Russia and has in fact never in history been part of Finland, unless you count the Finnish occupation during the Continuation War, during which the Finns used it as an aerial observation post. Considering the distance to the 1939 border (which is where the closest Finnish positions would've actually been) having been about 30km it's probably safe to say the Soviets wouldn't have gotten a very good look at the Finnish positions even if within visible range from that elevation. Likewise it's probably safe to say the Finns were, in fact, not observing the Soviet troops making their way up the mount, let alone climbing it to investigate, as they would've been at least 30km in front of their own lines, deep within enemy territory.
In conclusion: it's just a fictional story, as proven by the premise of local Sámi people & nearby Finnish positions.
(* It is however a common misconception about genealogy that there's such a thing as specific peoples that originate from somewhere. Reality is quite a bit more complicated (or rather, in fact, simpler) than that. "Karelians" is simply the modern day result of all the people's who've intermingled in the area throughout millenia, so technically "Karelians" haven't really even existed for as long as "they've been there". Similarly, "Finns" wasn't even a concept until the middle ages, despite "having been around" for at least a millenium by then. "Finns", in an ethnic sense, is just what we call the modern day descendants of all the Finnic tribes that have inhabited the region of modern day Finland for the past few millenia, which includes western Karelians)
Had Rome not taken captive most the Hebrews, some of what you say could be true...
I really enjoyed this story. I'm a veteran from 86 to 89 I was on active duty in the Army. I stayed in Germany for my whole enlistment. I never experienced anything paranormal or otherwise, but I have always enjoyed hearing strange stories. I appreciate you and all that you do to send out these stories. Thank you brother
My father was there too during that time. I wonder if you guys ever crossed paths?
Imagine storming into Finland with the might of the Red Army backing you only to get taken out by a bunch of Moomins on some hilltop.
Bunch of extra spicy Moomins.
@@mrs7195 They're friendly until they ain't...
This is my fav TH-cam channel.
Great stories and perfect voice for narration.
As a zoologist, may I suggest you look into the wars between humans and wolves, and check the human hubris at the door. It's not about food. It's about territory and safety. It's an ancient problem. Human behavior has led to full on wars with wildlife. Wolves had sadly been forced to become offensive in European History. Indigenous people learned long ago to respect their territory. It kept peace. Wolves would literally take out groups of humans... WITHOUT WANTING FOOD. Yes even military forces. And the wolves of the early 1900s new how to evade gunfire, cause panic, and attack with strategic persision at night when humans lack their vision. A wolf pack is better then a well trained army in many cases. It's human hubris that makes it hard for us to believe, thinking we would always hit something. Look up the story of Murasa, the lion of the early 2000s that literally pulled humans out of their houses to kill. Humanity needs to think about what it does.
Being a familiar with certain stories and incidents of mother nature at her fiercest such as the tragic U.S.S. Indianapolis sinking resulting in hundreds of men being devoured by sharks and other sea life. What are the chances that do to the conflict a perfect storm was created as for miles and miles every pac of wolves and group of bears were pushed to the edge until enough gather to such an extent that an alpha finally said enough and the predators turned and rushed the Russian forces to the point of we're hundreds of wolves with maybe dozens of bears. As crazy as it sounds modern history has perfect storms like that occurring.
@@donovanbradford8231 precisely.
Wolves do not take out a company of soldiers and do not wage a 2 day attack without one or 3of them being shot and bodies being found at the site. That is beyond normal physical predators even of vuing for territory or food. Something is off.