FUN FACT! When you get King’s Bramis health low enough he will stop attacking you and start slowly crawling towards the queens statue. His health will continue to dwindle, allowing himself to bleed out and die.
@@Lvl5Totodile just low hp, he’ll do an aoe burst that just knocks you off your feet and stop all together from attacking you. As he is crawling his low health will deplete on its own
@@rezthemediaruler3768 I almost died of laughter at how funny it was that the king in his final hour decides that he wants to be close to his love at the time of his death.
God, idk if anyone else ever thinks about this, but damn do soulslike games make me want a whole damn tv series or movies made about them to flesh out pretty much what you have portrayed here in this video. Absolutely amazing job with deciphering the lore and breaking it down like you have in these videos, cannot thank you enough!
Its a great game, but the game really reminds me of ds2. The game really has a lot of problem, and probably more ‘bad’ than ‘good’. But the ‘good’ are very creative, unique and fun that let the game standout from all other souls-like. I enjoyed both ds2 and lotf. You really should try it.
@@dudeiii2069do not compare this game to dark souls 2 this game has issues yes but most are being fixed dark souls 2 has so many issues ingrained into its systems and design it's impossible to fix
@@purish215 sure man. Right now I’m soft locked infront of bramis castle gate on my level 1 run because of some shitty bug with the withered rune of adyr. My other character is soft locked as well. This issue existed since October 2023 now its February 2024. Definitely an issue that is ‘being fixed’. Like I said the game is great and very enjoyable but theres a shit ton of bugs and weird designs. Multiplayer connection somehow worst than every souls game even after the ‘fix’ because everything is client sided. Like ds2 the game is flawed with some weird designs, but it really did add a lot of new and interesting mechanics which in my opinion makes the game worth my time. Also props to the dev for being more active than fromsoft.
Ive been following you for a while from your MTG lore videos. I gotta say that when it comes to Lords of the Fallen, you are Vaatividya quality. I personally believe LOTF is a FANTASTIC game and that these lore videos will age very well. Keep em' coming.
I appreciate the long-time support and thank you for the kind words. The setting and story of LotF is what got me hooked, more videos in the series are soon to follow
dont compare him to vaati pls this guy is nice vaati is just stealing content from the lore community and presenting it in the most boring way possible while never giving credit whatsoever
To me, the story of Sophesia, Bramis and their child was the most fascinating, beautiful and tragic puzzle of the entire game. Thank you so much for this video! But I do believe the veiled woman wearing a spiked crown and breaking the seal holding Adyr in the cinematic trailer is in fact Judge Cleric, as that's exactly how her corrupted boss version looks like in the game. Not sure what kind of "deal" Sophesia made with Adyr, but it's clear that Bramis became way more corrupted than her, in the end.
the crown and the veil look identical to sophesia however, and along with this, the woman in the cinematic isnt frail and have blood in her hands, as her painting depicts
Where in the game or the official concept art is Sophesia portraied like that? I can't find anything, except the images in this video which may have been taken out of context. In the Bramis Castle portraits, Sophesia looks very different. But corrupted Judge Cleric looks exactly like that in the game and concept art. If corrupted Iselle isn't the one in the trailer, than please, tell me the story of her downfall, she deserves her own video@@ONobreBabuino
@@Ionutcgrama the crown of the painting and the cinematic are pretty much the same, and the woman in the cinematic doesn't have armour AND a veil covering her face, along with having blood on her hands, things we can see from the painting of Sophesia shown in this video judge cleric, while having a similar crown, is notably different when you compare both models, and she has a pale-like skin with frail facial features and doesnt have blood coming out of her hands. along with this, the woman in cinematic doesnt wear armour, judge cleric still does
Great Video. Was wondering why Fitzroy was interested in Rhogar artifacts at Calrath marketplace. Initially thought he was trying to acquire power to push back the encroaching Hallowed Sentinels.
I mean, your kinda right, he was just doing it for his queen as well, since their objectives aligned: him to push back the Hallowed Sentinels, her to further the spread and her craft in Rhogar corruption
Your lore videos on Lords is a blessing. Appreciate the time and effort you guys have done for the game. Hope you guys keep uploading Lords lore as long as there’s lore to discuss that is. Hopefully if there’s a DLC you guys cover that as well 👍🏼
Very powerful love story, cursed to end in a horrible way unfortunately. Despite being besieged by the machinations of Adyr and the paranoia of the Sentinels, the love between these people endured. Excellent video 👏👏👏
Glad to see my general assumptions were correct) thank you for great video! Also, as I inderstood, rogar curse affects many infants in the same way, based on cinematic, where multiple progenies walk towards Mournstead
Phenomenal video. I had reached the same conclusion but was missing a couple of key pieces you presented, and so well put together paints an immensely sorrowful picture. This game has a way of punching you in the gut in so many ways; sometimes extravagant, sometimes subtle. Subscribed!
Damnit these lore videos are too damn good! Side note: I honestly had no idea the Queen was an optional boss...so cue "The more you know" rainbow for me. Wonderful video as always! Really looking forward to the rest of these! Full disclaimer, I haven't looked at all the videos of your channel other than the LOTF lore vids, but are you guys covering or will cover Lies of P and other souls-like? Or even the Souls series?
Thanks so much, very happy to hear you enjoy them! I'm glad you asked, the channel is actually going through a gradual change to cover more souls-like games (just picked up a copy of Lies of P and intend to discuss Hollow Knight) but I have many videos discussing Magic: The Gathering as well as The Witcher
Could it be that Sophesia’s bargain with Adyr had more to do with her pregnancy than saving the kingdom? Thus explaining why the child could have become such a horrible monster? There has to be something more about Edivar’s transformation into that fire giant. All the items you have to bring to her are related to Edivar, it’s clear that what she did to him is the primary source of her trauma and “madness”, I think more so than Adyr’s influence.
You are correct in your guess; she made a pact to bear a child, but the entity she was communicating with, unknown to her, was not Adyr but the putrid mother or some other umbral entity.
Had to come watch a lore video after beating the spurned progeny, I have not followed the story at all but his design was so harrowing I knew there had to be a really sad story behind it.
@@TheLorebrarians THANK YOU for your really qualitative work, among the most interesting discovered on TH-cam (I have enjoyed a lot of your productions earlier, mostly Elden Ring Lore).
I always thought the Judge Cleric herself was responsible for the corruption of the beacons, since her mind sort of breaks and she offers a piece of her flesh at the beacon she was guarding.
This game is underrated. The lore has overtaken me same as Miyazakis work. I see great passion behind this game. The devs made a beautiful homage to dark souls games. One of my favorite games in the genre
Random shot in the dark here, but "Fitzroy" means "Son of the King". I wonder if he's an illegitimate half-brother to the current King. I don't know what to do with that theory, but it's an interesting choice of name, and he seems to have plenty of influence in the kingdom
After going through an interview another creator had with the lead creative director, Cesar Virtosu, it might actually be that the queen was not at all communicating with Adyr as she assumed. It is merely thought that the whispers from the ground are Adyr's because it's a common belief that the colossal hand is actually part of the god's physical form while the rest of the body is buried beneath the ground. Here is the aforementioned part of the interview. "So the queen of Mournstead, in her desire to have children...she is the woman that you see [in the cinematic] listening to the whispers; she's the queen of Mournstead, and she heard Adyr's whispers and voice in that cave. You can go to that cave and hear whispers. Is it Adyr who speaks from the bowels of the earth? You don't know. There is a lot of environmental storytelling." With the whole reason behind the construction of the Skyrest Bridge being to separate the dead from the ground, the whispers that drove the miners mad and the umbral's influence coming from deep underground, we can safely assume the whispers were not Adyr's but some umbral creature or the putrid mother herself.
Interesting insights! Where might I find the full interview? I've been trying to get into contact with the Hexworks/CI creative team for some time, hopefully I can connect with them soon
Thank you very much, i wondered if Sundered Monarch is king Bramis but now i understand, maybe you can do a lore of Andreas of Ebb and Tancred, Tancred is very cool boss fight and Andreas is interesting character, pity he is minor antagonist.
PS. I love it that motherhood is a permeating theme of the game. Failed mothers who crave some sort of peace or vengeance, in fact. Sophesia, the Putrid Mother, the pregnant monsters of Umbral, the Cleric Judge as a holy mother figure. While the fathers are brutal, dominating figures - Adyr, Bramis, the Mendacious Visage etc (well, Adyr is both, in fact, as his face is half feminine).
The stuff about adyr and orius seemed pretty well fleshed out in the games storytelling. The thing that seems confusing to me is where the umbral ties in. It seems like just coincidence that all of this is built over a giant shrine sealing away an eldritch horror. Why a third faction is able to craft lanterns harnessing the power of something way worse than adyr to fight against him... Both the radiant and infeno aligned factions seem totally aware of it and not really caring much more than the mentions of adyr being wary of the lightreaper The wayfarer seems like he was meant to give insight about it but he never really says anything more than the obvious
Adyr created the lightreaper way before the lampbearer mission started to hunt down every lampbearer and umbral creature in Axiom (we see him fight the hollow crow) to stop the threat of umbral.
People might say this is proof that Adyr is evil: I disagree. He was the kindly shepherd of mankind for centuries, and then his own children turned against him. It’s only fair that he enact his wrath on any who would cling to the apostate beliefs of the false judges so completely. They earned this pain the day their ancestors cast him down, betrayed his love and spurned his mercy. It fits with my own, personal title for the game: Lords of the Fallen, or more accurately, “Humanity getting _exactly_ what it fucking deserves”
FUN FACT!
When you get King’s Bramis health low enough he will stop attacking you and start slowly crawling towards the queens statue. His health will continue to dwindle, allowing himself to bleed out and die.
Do you need bleed status on him or just low HP?
@@Lvl5Totodile just low hp, he’ll do an aoe burst that just knocks you off your feet and stop all together from attacking you. As he is crawling his low health will deplete on its own
That's a fun Fact?
@@rezthemediaruler3768 I almost died of laughter at how funny it was that the king in his final hour decides that he wants to be close to his love at the time of his death.
Why?
God, idk if anyone else ever thinks about this, but damn do soulslike games make me want a whole damn tv series or movies made about them to flesh out pretty much what you have portrayed here in this video. Absolutely amazing job with deciphering the lore and breaking it down like you have in these videos, cannot thank you enough!
Appreciate it! Yes, the stories in these games are so grand and moving, love to share them with people
Damn, I had no idea this game's lore was so well written. Shame so many people wrote it off as a Dark Souls clone. May have to give this a try.
Did you give it a try? It scratches the itch.
Its a great game, but the game really reminds me of ds2. The game really has a lot of problem, and probably more ‘bad’ than ‘good’. But the ‘good’ are very creative, unique and fun that let the game standout from all other souls-like.
I enjoyed both ds2 and lotf. You really should try it.
@@dudeiii2069do not compare this game to dark souls 2 this game has issues yes but most are being fixed dark souls 2 has so many issues ingrained into its systems and design it's impossible to fix
@@purish215 sure man. Right now I’m soft locked infront of bramis castle gate on my level 1 run because of some shitty bug with the withered rune of adyr. My other character is soft locked as well. This issue existed since October 2023 now its February 2024. Definitely an issue that is ‘being fixed’.
Like I said the game is great and very enjoyable but theres a shit ton of bugs and weird designs. Multiplayer connection somehow worst than every souls game even after the ‘fix’ because everything is client sided. Like ds2 the game is flawed with some weird designs, but it really did add a lot of new and interesting mechanics which in my opinion makes the game worth my time. Also props to the dev for being more active than fromsoft.
@@dudeiii2069 sounds like bs tbh what is "softlocked" even supposed to mean u either locked or u arent
Ive been following you for a while from your MTG lore videos. I gotta say that when it comes to Lords of the Fallen, you are Vaatividya quality. I personally believe LOTF is a FANTASTIC game and that these lore videos will age very well. Keep em' coming.
I appreciate the long-time support and thank you for the kind words. The setting and story of LotF is what got me hooked, more videos in the series are soon to follow
dont compare him to vaati pls this guy is nice vaati is just stealing content from the lore community and presenting it in the most boring way possible while never giving credit whatsoever
@@miceatah9359used to love Vaati till I heard about all that now I just watch Square Table Gaming, Agt Jake, Smoughtown and a few others
To me, the story of Sophesia, Bramis and their child was the most fascinating, beautiful and tragic puzzle of the entire game. Thank you so much for this video! But I do believe the veiled woman wearing a spiked crown and breaking the seal holding Adyr in the cinematic trailer is in fact Judge Cleric, as that's exactly how her corrupted boss version looks like in the game. Not sure what kind of "deal" Sophesia made with Adyr, but it's clear that Bramis became way more corrupted than her, in the end.
the crown and the veil look identical to sophesia however, and along with this, the woman in the cinematic isnt frail and have blood in her hands, as her painting depicts
Where in the game or the official concept art is Sophesia portraied like that? I can't find anything, except the images in this video which may have been taken out of context. In the Bramis Castle portraits, Sophesia looks very different. But corrupted Judge Cleric looks exactly like that in the game and concept art. If corrupted Iselle isn't the one in the trailer, than please, tell me the story of her downfall, she deserves her own video@@ONobreBabuino
@@Ionutcgrama the crown of the painting and the cinematic are pretty much the same, and the woman in the cinematic doesn't have armour AND a veil covering her face, along with having blood on her hands, things we can see from the painting of Sophesia shown in this video
judge cleric, while having a similar crown, is notably different when you compare both models, and she has a pale-like skin with frail facial features and doesnt have blood coming out of her hands. along with this, the woman in cinematic doesnt wear armour, judge cleric still does
@@ONobreBabuino Checked the official concept art, you’re absolutely right :)
Thank you! This lore series is an absolute masterpiece.
Appreciate it, glad you are enjoying!
@@TheLorebrarians Absolutely! This game’s lore has me hooked.
I agree thanks for these videos
Great Video. Was wondering why Fitzroy was interested in Rhogar artifacts at Calrath marketplace. Initially thought he was trying to acquire power to push back the encroaching Hallowed Sentinels.
I mean, your kinda right, he was just doing it for his queen as well, since their objectives aligned: him to push back the Hallowed Sentinels, her to further the spread and her craft in Rhogar corruption
The lore of this game is so good. Very thankful for your covering of it.
It's a shame people wrote it off so early, it has a great world with amazing potential. Glad you enjoy the videos
Your lore videos on Lords is a blessing. Appreciate the time and effort you guys have done for the game. Hope you guys keep uploading Lords lore as long as there’s lore to discuss that is. Hopefully if there’s a DLC you guys cover that as well 👍🏼
Of course, so glad you enjoy! More videos on LotF are forthcoming. Such a great world they've created
As soon as I saw the title it all came together. What a genius video name.
Very powerful love story, cursed to end in a horrible way unfortunately. Despite being besieged by the machinations of Adyr and the paranoia of the Sentinels, the love between these people endured.
Excellent video 👏👏👏
I still believe in Adyr as the best ending but yeah there was some dark stuff here. Orin is still orbitally blasting the innocent though lol
Very good lore telling. This game's lore is so rich and facinating. I am halfway through the platinum on ps5
Glad to see my general assumptions were correct) thank you for great video! Also, as I inderstood, rogar curse affects many infants in the same way, based on cinematic, where multiple progenies walk towards Mournstead
Please keep making LOFT lore videos! I personally want to know the story but am too lazy to do all the work you’re doing 🙏🏻 good work keep it up!
Sit back and relax, more videos to come
Great story and the best part is that a casual like me was able to piece it together by her quest.
I wish soul games made quest more easy to follow
Phenomenal video. I had reached the same conclusion but was missing a couple of key pieces you presented, and so well put together paints an immensely sorrowful picture. This game has a way of punching you in the gut in so many ways; sometimes extravagant, sometimes subtle. Subscribed!
Dude, every video you make gets me like "wooooaaaahhh!!!!" You truly are amazing in what you do! Thank you!!!
Amazing work! Was really looking for an in-depth explanation for the story around this, you really are the vaati of lords of the fallen! :)
Thanks so much for the kind comparison to a lore master and so glad you enjoyed!
Great work and narration , keep it up , myself would like to see a series about Hellpoint lore ,but that is just me ...
Appreciate it and the suggestion! Although I can't say I've heard of hellpoint
@@TheLorebrarians Souls like but in space, story is more weird and complicated.
Damnit these lore videos are too damn good! Side note: I honestly had no idea the Queen was an optional boss...so cue "The more you know" rainbow for me.
Wonderful video as always! Really looking forward to the rest of these! Full disclaimer, I haven't looked at all the videos of your channel other than the LOTF lore vids, but are you guys covering or will cover Lies of P and other souls-like? Or even the Souls series?
Thanks so much, very happy to hear you enjoy them! I'm glad you asked, the channel is actually going through a gradual change to cover more souls-like games (just picked up a copy of Lies of P and intend to discuss Hollow Knight) but I have many videos discussing Magic: The Gathering as well as The Witcher
People will listen to this and still say the Adyr ending is the best.
Great lore video, thank you for your amazing work!
Of course, happy to hear you enjoy
Yes, this is awesome. Thanks for doin this.
Appreciate it!
I was hoping for this one
Could it be that Sophesia’s bargain with Adyr had more to do with her pregnancy than saving the kingdom? Thus explaining why the child could have become such a horrible monster? There has to be something more about Edivar’s transformation into that fire giant. All the items you have to bring to her are related to Edivar, it’s clear that what she did to him is the primary source of her trauma and “madness”, I think more so than Adyr’s influence.
You are correct in your guess; she made a pact to bear a child, but the entity she was communicating with, unknown to her, was not Adyr but the putrid mother or some other umbral entity.
Yessss you hero! Thank you
Of course, hope you enjoyed!
Had to come watch a lore video after beating the spurned progeny, I have not followed the story at all but his design was so harrowing I knew there had to be a really sad story behind it.
Excellent Lore and brilliant Telling 👌
Appreciate it!
@@TheLorebrarians THANK YOU for your really qualitative work, among the most interesting discovered on TH-cam (I have enjoyed a lot of your productions earlier, mostly Elden Ring Lore).
Really great video man, I did her quest, and only picked up half of what you just explained lol
Appreciate it and glad it could enlighten!
I always thought the Judge Cleric herself was responsible for the corruption of the beacons, since her mind sort of breaks and she offers a piece of her flesh at the beacon she was guarding.
Thank youuuuuu!!!
Of course, hope you liked it!
Awesome video, like always!!!
Glad you enjoyed!
This game is so immaculate and surprising! I've been enjoying it so much!
God I love your lotf lore!
Appreciate it, more videos are forthcoming so stay tuned!
I felt like this game was so well written. The lore was fantastic. It doesn’t get the love it deserves
A video worthy of vaati quality. Well done
Poor Sophesia, after everything she only wanted her child back. Adyr should reward her with her new child, maybe of both Adyr and the queen.
This game is underrated. The lore has overtaken me same as Miyazakis work. I see great passion behind this game. The devs made a beautiful homage to dark souls games. One of my favorite games in the genre
Great content, keep it up :)
Awesome video, i love the game and im loving this series of lore videos, thanks🎉🎉🎉
Of course, glad you enjoy
Random shot in the dark here, but "Fitzroy" means "Son of the King". I wonder if he's an illegitimate half-brother to the current King. I don't know what to do with that theory, but it's an interesting choice of name, and he seems to have plenty of influence in the kingdom
The Road to Hell is paved with good Intentions...
What a horrible Fate for these good People...
How come you can see all the figures of a stigma? I activate them and I have to pan my camera just to see an elbow... 😢
I love this series! I would love to share some of my theories as well!
Appreciate it. Let's hear them!
After going through an interview another creator had with the lead creative director, Cesar Virtosu, it might actually be that the queen was not at all communicating with Adyr as she assumed. It is merely thought that the whispers from the ground are Adyr's because it's a common belief that the colossal hand is actually part of the god's physical form while the rest of the body is buried beneath the ground.
Here is the aforementioned part of the interview.
"So the queen of Mournstead, in her desire to have children...she is the woman that you see [in the cinematic] listening to the whispers; she's the queen of Mournstead, and she heard Adyr's whispers and voice in that cave. You can go to that cave and hear whispers. Is it Adyr who speaks from the bowels of the earth? You don't know. There is a lot of environmental storytelling."
With the whole reason behind the construction of the Skyrest Bridge being to separate the dead from the ground, the whispers that drove the miners mad and the umbral's influence coming from deep underground, we can safely assume the whispers were not Adyr's but some umbral creature or the putrid mother herself.
Interesting insights! Where might I find the full interview? I've been trying to get into contact with the Hexworks/CI creative team for some time, hopefully I can connect with them soon
@@TheLorebrarians TH-cam is kind of annoying when it comes to links. Mind if I DM you the source on Reddit?
@@Sometuy11A of course, should find me under u/lorebrarians. Appreciate it!
@@TheLorebrarians A friend of mine had issues receiving my DMs before, so I just wanted to confirm that you received them.
@@Sometuy11A yep, got it!
Thank you for this!
Of course, hope you enjoyed!
This is sick
🔥 🗡️ 🔥 🗡️ 🔥 🗡️
Para bens pelo seu conteúdos estou gostando não só o jogo mas as lores que tem postado no youtube
Thank you very much, i wondered if Sundered Monarch is king Bramis but now i understand, maybe you can do a lore of Andreas of Ebb and Tancred, Tancred is very cool boss fight and Andreas is interesting character, pity he is minor antagonist.
Working on Tancred's story as we speak, stay tuned
@@TheLorebrarians 👍👍👍👍👍
@@TheLorebrarians I have one question, I always hear baby screaming in Umbral world, why?
PS. I love it that motherhood is a permeating theme of the game. Failed mothers who crave some sort of peace or vengeance, in fact. Sophesia, the Putrid Mother, the pregnant monsters of Umbral, the Cleric Judge as a holy mother figure. While the fathers are brutal, dominating figures - Adyr, Bramis, the Mendacious Visage etc (well, Adyr is both, in fact, as his face is half feminine).
I mean, Judge Cleric does become a tyrannical dominating figure
Translation: I love when motherhood is portrayed positively while fathers are portrayed as violent monsters
The stuff about adyr and orius seemed pretty well fleshed out in the games storytelling.
The thing that seems confusing to me is where the umbral ties in. It seems like just coincidence that all of this is built over a giant shrine sealing away an eldritch horror.
Why a third faction is able to craft lanterns harnessing the power of something way worse than adyr to fight against him...
Both the radiant and infeno aligned factions seem totally aware of it and not really caring much more than the mentions of adyr being wary of the lightreaper
The wayfarer seems like he was meant to give insight about it but he never really says anything more than the obvious
Adyr created the lightreaper way before the lampbearer mission started to hunt down every lampbearer and umbral creature in Axiom (we see him fight the hollow crow) to stop the threat of umbral.
People might say this is proof that Adyr is evil: I disagree. He was the kindly shepherd of mankind for centuries, and then his own children turned against him. It’s only fair that he enact his wrath on any who would cling to the apostate beliefs of the false judges so completely. They earned this pain the day their ancestors cast him down, betrayed his love and spurned his mercy.
It fits with my own, personal title for the game: Lords of the Fallen, or more accurately, “Humanity getting _exactly_ what it fucking deserves”
Ancestors not them
Does anyone know how long this whole thing was going on? From normal time to this state before main char goes to the mission.
This would be a very good series made by HBO
It's so weird to me that people can see such lore at this and still claim "Adyr is the good guy".........
Not “good guy” just better than Orius and the Putrid Mother