For those that want to do a 5 lug disc the needed parts are below. 90-97 accord 4 lug rear knuckle assembly. 97 rear prelude hub. 97-2001 Integra type r rear rotor (5 lug). Every bolt.
Dude, I can't believe you saw how far off the depth was for that hub and you didn't stop after seeing that the brake shoes are now going to be spreading way off center. And throwing that washer away is a bad idea. That's a very thick washer for a reason; it's holding a lot of torque on that hub. I'd venture to say the surface area of the face on that nut is probably half of that washer. Given that (I'm no engineer though)I think the force on the face of that nut may be X to the power of 2. If it were me, I probably would've tried to figure out what other Honda hub might fit, maybe even see if you could take off that ABS ring and shave off about 15mm off of the face of that Prelude hub. That would suck it right in and possibly be in a better location.
It kind of looked like the center bore of the drum needs to be a tad bit bigger in order for it to sit flush, it’s not a good/safe idea to run it like that since the hub won’t make it through the hole in the wheel and potentially loosening up while driving
Thank you,have a 90 coupe ex an love it,needs a lot of love but step by step an watching with good voiceover/tutorial makes me confident an happy to do it.
Any update on this setup? How is it since then. Was thinking of doing the same setup on my lx. But with ARP extended studs and maybe try to find a little bigger drum to cover that gap.
Nice how it went..I have a 92 Honda Accord wagon want to tho a 5 lug conversion it also haves drums like to know what up date have u done anything different from this video getting the nut closer..
I was wondering if the rear disc brakes from ah 2000 Honda Accord would fit on my 90 cb7 or if I convert the back with the ex disc brakes from another cb7 and then put the hub that you used here
Winston Buzon I was gunna have to get sooo many parts. Rear ebrake cables the trailing arns calipers disks rotors and new hubs as well. That's just off the top of my head lol
This seems way easy... how come other people switch out the whole knuckles and all when they do 5 lug conversions? And will this work on my 95 accord? I have disc brakes in the rear and front though since its a eex model
@@winstonbuzon no for the rear drunk brake. The other that goes over the hub & ultimately the drum brakes. There’s 5 holes on it, which car is it from?
Havan Barnes yes i did actually. use acura rsx rear rotors & prelude hubs for the disc conversion, if you have drum i believe you can still use the prelude hub with the crv drum cover. and for the fronts use the first gen honda odyssey front knuckle. I know you can use the 6th gen v6 accord knuckle but i’m not really sure what you use. Follow me on IG @1017juixe_ and I’ll send you some screenshots of the parts list i used
Hi I am from the United kingdom and wanted to know did you get the new part from honda? And does it have to be a honda part? .. I have a Renault clio 2001 it's got 4 studs and I want a 5 stud conversion do I have to get a Renault part? Would appreciate a little help Great video
No, I got it from a website called Partsgeek. I did a review on them because their service & return policies were horrendous. If you're going to go the 5 lug route, I would research forums that specializes in Clios first. Based upon your findings & fellow Clio owners' input, you'll have a better understanding of what your next steps will be
What's up, if i can put this out there, that swap is sketch.... Hear me out, that washer is to keep the bearing and nut separate since the wheel is spinning in the same direction as to loosen the nut. It didn't look like there was enough indentation on the nut to securely keep it locked into place. I just don't want to see you lose a wheel or life for a washer. Keep up the cb love.
Winston Buzon I wonder if you could press out the bearing of the new one and see if you could find one that's not as wide? I think that will give you the extra room to run the washer and get a good notch on the nut.
I had to research cb7tuner.com over & over again just to do so. Ended up getting a lot done just by asking questions from the various CB7 forums on FB and IG posts
The wheel will fall off. The rim needs to sit on the hub for saftey issues. The rim is only being suported by the lugnuts, big no no. It will vibrate at speeds over 50mph.
And so you’re gonna just leave out the washer? Prob won’t be any problem there.....manufacturers are always putting in extra parts. Prob just added like 5-10 hp by leaving it off. Carry on soldier!
I succeeded with Honda S-MX hubs (42200-S70-008) and Mazda nuts. The dimension is nearer than that of Prelude. minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/257050/car/2856104/4895512/photo.aspx minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/257050/car/2856104/5823435/note.aspx
Fucking stupid for leaving the locking washer out god speed brother hope the wheel dont come off at 80 snd kill someone they something that u just dont leave out
Ok, I’m full-on scared. Gotta ask, bro.....How many vehicles have you worked on that are out there driving around on the road, possibly killing folks? There’s like 4 or 5 GLARING safety violations if you actually put the hub together this way. Dude, please, get a professional mechanic to take a look at that setup before you kill somebody. Just because it’s the cheapest and easiest way to get the job done, that shouldn’t convince you to do it that way. Some things can’t be shortcut-ed......like braking systems! Please please please don’t ride around with that hub/drum as it is at the end of your video. No offense man, I really appreciate your videos, but that’s simply not safe, for the driver OR anyone nearby.
Well, I decided to not go with this hub. I got some proper hubs and am riding safe to this day. The last video seen me drive the CB7 it was perfect, no noises, no problems whatsoever, but I also appreciate your concerns
Not worth it. That is so dangerous. That thick steel KEYED WASHER is there to prevent the spindle nut from coming off if the hub bearing was to lock up. Manufacturers spend millions on training engineers to come up with something that works. Ask yourself this: could they build a car like that and pass d.o.t regulations?
I never knew about the 5 lug drum conversion until now thanks
You never mentioned in your video what spindle and drum you used for this swap?
Nice informative video! I’d recommend swapping out the studs for extended studs to make up for the shortage
For those that want to do a 5 lug disc the needed parts are below.
90-97 accord 4 lug rear knuckle assembly.
97 rear prelude hub.
97-2001 Integra type r rear rotor (5 lug).
Every bolt.
AJ Imports do I need to get the rear trailing arm and spindal off a Accord with rear disc or do I just need the spindal
Dude, I can't believe you saw how far off the depth was for that hub and you didn't stop after seeing that the brake shoes are now going to be spreading way off center. And throwing that washer away is a bad idea. That's a very thick washer for a reason; it's holding a lot of torque on that hub. I'd venture to say the surface area of the face on that nut is probably half of that washer. Given that (I'm no engineer though)I think the force on the face of that nut may be X to the power of 2.
If it were me, I probably would've tried to figure out what other Honda hub might fit, maybe even see if you could take off that ABS ring and shave off about 15mm off of the face of that Prelude hub. That would suck it right in and possibly be in a better location.
Duly noted. That's why I've decided to remove this hub and find myself a better option while retaining the drums
Try using a Mazda 626 axle nut. Here's the part number: 1988-2002 Mazda 626 Axle Nut - EMPI W0133-1641903
Is it work and great solution?
Awesome thanks buddy. That's what I was thinking.
I would like to say nice cars reference I busted out the second I heard it
It kind of looked like the center bore of the drum needs to be a tad bit bigger in order for it to sit flush, it’s not a good/safe idea to run it like that since the hub won’t make it through the hole in the wheel and potentially loosening up while driving
Thank you,have a 90 coupe ex an love it,needs a lot of love but step by step an watching with good voiceover/tutorial makes me confident an happy to do it.
Any update on this setup? How is it since then. Was thinking of doing the same setup on my lx. But with ARP extended studs and maybe try to find a little bigger drum to cover that gap.
I've decided to go with SE rear discs instead. Piecing together is a pain in the ass
Dude that Ka Chow killed me😂😂😂
Why did you “notch” the axel nut/spindle? Shouldn’t there just be a cotter pin thru both to secure it?
No, you have to notch it. Otherwise, it may come off
Nice. What did you put in the front ??? Also from the prelude ??
Used front knuckles from 2000 Accord V6
@@winstonbuzon ok thx so much for your help
Nice how it went..I have a 92 Honda Accord wagon want to tho a 5 lug conversion it also haves drums like to know what up date have u done anything different from this video getting the nut closer..
Man I have the same car lol keep me posted
The wagon rear hub bolt is a bit bigger that one from a coupe/sedan
I have a 92 Honda wagon just did the conversion but the axle nut haves more tread to go but only get far enough
Use Mazda 626 Axle Nuts instead
Hey my 92 accord doesn’t have a drum in the back it has a lil caliper and a rotor what should I do for a five lug swap??
Change out your 4 lug hub assembly & disc brakes for 5 lug ones. Retain everything else
www.cb7tuner.com/vbb5/forum/parts-performance/suspension/127726-wtf-5-lug-ftmfl-ahhhhhhhh/page3
Thanks bro the info helped👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I was wondering if the rear disc brakes from ah 2000 Honda Accord would fit on my 90 cb7 or if I convert the back with the ex disc brakes from another cb7 and then put the hub that you used here
I got the rear disc setup from a donor 92 93 EX, but I dunno about the 00 Accord setup because I haven't tried
This looks waaaayy easier than the rear disk 5lug swap lol
Christopher Elrod Lmao, tell about it!
Winston Buzon I was gunna have to get sooo many parts. Rear ebrake cables the trailing arns calipers disks rotors and new hubs as well. That's just off the top of my head lol
Christopher Elrod Yeah, that's too much! :D
I got a question can I just buy the 2000 v6 model hub and bearing 5 lug and use the 2000 Honda CR-V 5 lug drum
That's a really good question, but I couldn't tell you because I haven't tried...
This seems way easy... how come other people switch out the whole knuckles and all when they do 5 lug conversions? And will this work on my 95 accord? I have disc brakes in the rear and front though since its a eex model
Since you have rear discs, it should be easier
@@winstonbuzon so do I have to switch my whole knuckles and assembly or can I do it like this?
@@righty-tightybuilt548 if you already have rear discs, just do it like I did
@@winstonbuzon awesome thanks brother. How much where the hubs? And are they off a certain car cr-v?
@@righty-tightybuilt548 just the 5 lug ones, older gen
What kind of 5 lug drunk brake cover are you using?
Brake cover? For the fronts?
@@winstonbuzon no for the rear drunk brake. The other that goes over the hub & ultimately the drum brakes. There’s 5 holes on it, which car is it from?
@@trackshun 93 EX
@@winstonbuzon i don’t recall 93’ accord ex’s with 5 lugs. I’m assuming the drum brake cover is from an odyssey?
@@trackshun so you're looking for 5-lug drums? Then you might look into 1st gen CRVs or Odysseys
actually converting my cd5 to 5 lug here soon once my parts get here
did you ever do that?
Havan Barnes yes i did actually. use acura rsx rear rotors & prelude hubs for the disc conversion, if you have drum i believe you can still use the prelude hub with the crv drum cover. and for the fronts use the first gen honda odyssey front knuckle. I know you can use the 6th gen v6 accord knuckle but i’m not really sure what you use. Follow me on IG @1017juixe_ and I’ll send you some screenshots of the parts list i used
Nice video bossing.. How about the disc conversion... Have you got any plans on doing it? Have a good day chuef
Bro, Are the drums from the prelude?
I think so, I don't remember
Hi I am from the United kingdom and wanted to know did you get the new part from honda? And does it have to be a honda part? .. I have a Renault clio 2001 it's got 4 studs and I want a 5 stud conversion do I have to get a Renault part?
Would appreciate a little help
Great video
No, I got it from a website called Partsgeek. I did a review on them because their service & return policies were horrendous.
If you're going to go the 5 lug route, I would research forums that specializes in Clios first. Based upon your findings & fellow Clio owners' input, you'll have a better understanding of what your next steps will be
Appreciate your reply dood
What brand hub is that?
@@anthonycruz8992 Centric is the brand I believe
A have a accord wagon but i have rotos in the rear what parts i need for convert 5 lugs please help thanks
ricardo ramos click on this link:
www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=16241
Looks awesome man. Great job! Where did you get the 5 lug drum?also how do you like your front brakes? I bet you can stop on a dime now!
Eric Losh 1997 to 2001 Honda CRV
Hey Winston what ecu you use for the h23a blue top.
Ramon Bermudez PCB ECU with obd1 to obd2a jumper harness
Cool thanks bro. Keep up the good work. Cb7 are the best.
Ramon Bermudez thank you, and thank you for taking time to view my vids :)
What bolt pattern before and after
Before was 4x114.3 and After was 5x114.3
Would this work with all 6th gen accords that are 4 lug 4 cylinder
Sorry, but I wouldn't know for sure
plus the base of the rims there's barely gonna be any rear stud treads poking thru no ? could you have installed extended wheel studs back there ?
You could. In the end, I changed my rears to rear disc brakes from an SE
Did you ever try the crv hubs?
No, didnt stay on long enough
Where you bought?
Don't buy from Parts geek and here's why...
th-cam.com/video/ieUHHV6BNZ4/w-d-xo.html
@@winstonbuzon thank you 😁 and u have another store?
Where can I get the kit for my 98 accord
Kit for...?
The 5 lug swap ?
@@justsoblessed there's no kit, just the 5 lug conversion from any V6 of the same chassis as yours
Winston Buzon o so basically I can order 5 lug hubs that come from a v6 Honda Accord 6th generation
@@justsoblessed yes 😁👍
When we going to see the wheels? Can't wait! Lol
Coming this month, so stay tuned! :D
Is the accord hub bigger than the civics,how can I do the same to my civic bro?
Hopefully someone sees this but is it the same process for the front?
Minus the drum
What's up, if i can put this out there, that swap is sketch.... Hear me out, that washer is to keep the bearing and nut separate since the wheel is spinning in the same direction as to loosen the nut. It didn't look like there was enough indentation on the nut to securely keep it locked into place. I just don't want to see you lose a wheel or life for a washer. Keep up the cb love.
Travis Chupco I've thought about this too, and I see your point. I may have to do a video to shave down the hub's edges to properly seat the drums
Winston Buzon I wonder if you could press out the bearing of the new one and see if you could find one that's not as wide? I think that will give you the extra room to run the washer and get a good notch on the nut.
What's the update bro pllzzzzzz. I have a 92 accord wagon
I'm back working in my hometown so more things are now going, so stay tuned! Please SUBSCRIBE today and turn on the NOTIFICATIONS for new videos! :)
Leroy Harrison still have your wagon?
Cb7 Squad
Wiston what hub u used from what car?
I used Prelude 97 but now I'm having a change of heart and switching to CRV rear hubs. I will make an update video when my new CRV hubs come in
@@winstonbuzon Nice thx you brother yes please make the video
Where did you get the rear 5 lug hub
Any local auto parts store
Would this work for a 1967 mustang?
Hard to tell...
Could this work with rear disc brakes
Yes it can
With that little amount of stud showing you won’t be able to put a rim on that’s no doubt .. unless it’s a steel wheel
can i do this with the hyundai elantra 2004 ?
I dunno. It might be possible. Hasn't been done yet, so maybe you could be the one to do it first on TH-cam 👍😁
Really sketchy. But I'm interested on how you managed to figure out all the components to fit.
I had to research cb7tuner.com over & over again just to do so. Ended up getting a lot done just by asking questions from the various CB7 forums on FB and IG posts
The wheel will fall off. The rim needs to sit on the hub for saftey issues. The rim is only being suported by the lugnuts, big no no. It will vibrate at speeds over 50mph.
Can I do this with my 95 civic
I'm not sure, but you can using RSX or CTR parts
Where u get the 5 lug drum
Drum? I had discs. But you can get drums from the CRv or Odyssey
I got drum brake like u but I got wheel bearing an the hub
What year crv or odyssey
@@raygraham3848both first gen
What year
did you solve your problem?
Yes I did. RSX brake rotors
@@winstonbuzon so you have disc in the back now?
@@daniellucero4687 yes
What year and model, 4 door or 2 door and submodel was your Accord before doing the conversion?
91 EX Sedan
Wiston what about front?
ricardo ramos th-cam.com/video/J4p_iRDmFBs/w-d-xo.html
Why not used a Mazda 626 rear axle but
I ended up going to rear discs anyway but good to know
what about the front?
th-cam.com/video/J4p_iRDmFBs/w-d-xo.html
How do it drive
Like normal, honestly. I will be posting up a video within a few weeks
And so you’re gonna just leave out the washer? Prob won’t be any problem there.....manufacturers are always putting in extra parts. Prob just added like 5-10 hp by leaving it off. Carry on soldier!
I did it too , but not work
Try cb7tuner.com. Go to the search bar and type "5 lug conversion". It should work. I did the one where I had to use the Mazda 6 hub nut
disc is only easy if you got a ex
Le quedarán los de un honda 2008
I succeeded with Honda S-MX hubs (42200-S70-008) and Mazda nuts. The dimension is nearer than that of Prelude. minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/257050/car/2856104/4895512/photo.aspx
minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/257050/car/2856104/5823435/note.aspx
What happened to 139 ft⋅lbf
An impact wrench on a bearing ... FAIL !
Yo tengo un Honda civic 2001
Fucking stupid for leaving the locking washer out god speed brother hope the wheel dont come off at 80 snd kill someone they something that u just dont leave out
Ok, I’m full-on scared.
Gotta ask, bro.....How many vehicles have you worked on that are out there driving around on the road, possibly killing folks? There’s like 4 or 5 GLARING safety violations if you actually put the hub together this way. Dude, please, get a professional mechanic to take a look at that setup before you kill somebody. Just because it’s the cheapest and easiest way to get the job done, that shouldn’t convince you to do it that way. Some things can’t be shortcut-ed......like braking systems!
Please please please don’t ride around with that hub/drum as it is at the end of your video. No offense man, I really appreciate your videos, but that’s simply not safe, for the driver OR anyone nearby.
Well, I decided to not go with this hub. I got some proper hubs and am riding safe to this day. The last video seen me drive the CB7 it was perfect, no noises, no problems whatsoever, but I also appreciate your concerns
So in other words you weren't able to get the notch out and you.fucked up your threads.
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Not worth it. That is so dangerous. That thick steel KEYED WASHER is there to prevent the spindle nut from coming off if the hub bearing was to lock up. Manufacturers spend millions on training engineers to come up with something that works. Ask yourself this: could they build a car like that and pass d.o.t regulations?
There’s actually a skinnier nut that could be utilized. It’s a mazda axle nut. It is thinner. Also, you can just buy extended lugs.
That’s not work
Where you get the rotors and 5 lug kit from
I got the rotors from RockAuto and lucked out with the rear disc brake setup from a 92-93 EX sedan in the junkyard in San Diego
Would this work with oddessey
The rears yes