HOW TO TUNE A 16 IN FLOOR TOM AKA A MOST USEFUL TUNING VIDEO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello everyone. Here is a video showing you 3 great tunings for a 16" Floor tom feat. my awesome Rogers Covington Floor Tom.
To help support my TH-cam channel please stream the full step-by-step lesson at
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In this video I discuss all kinds of tips for easily getting a great, rich sounding floor tom with plenty of tone, and attack as well as tips for adjusting the pitches of the 16" to pair well with a tuning on a 12" tom that is tuned exactly where I like it. For step by step lessons on the method I used to tune this floor tom w/ Tune Bot/ Drum Dial settings for each tuning you can stream the whole lesson at www.kennysharretts.com. Not only will you learn tons about tuning any drums (much less a 16" floor tom lol), but you will be helping my TH-cam channel grow. Which means I can keep doing drum tuning, and drum tech videos for you all. Thank you so much for watching. Please feel free to like, share, and subscribe or even better STREAM A LESSON AT www.kennysharretts.com
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I love this guy. An absolutely genuine soul and incredible drummer. My drums sound better than they ever have because of these videos. I'm positive that this guy could make Saranwrap on a salad bowl sound studio ready.
Thank you so much for the kind words my friend.
But he doesnt have a Beam
He’s the guru. Best, most real-world useful tuning vids on the web. My pro tip for saving your fingers and getting a perfect +x tensioning- get yourself 2 Tama TDK10 keys and use the knurled top to get everything ‘finger’ tight. Perfect tools for even tensioning and they’re $5. Must have.
I probably have 20 of those Tama keys. They’re included with every snare drum they sell. I always have three of them out. Best key on the planet.
This dude is the Bob Ross of drum tuning. I could listen to this all day - it’s like meditation. Awesome stuff.
Thank you so much. I find drum tuning to be a very zen activity. Thank you for watching, and commenting.
Damn Kenny, NOBODY CAN TOUCH YOUR ABILITIES!!! You make it look so easy.
Wow thank you so much for the kind words. 21 yes as a touring tech has had a bit of an effect for sure. Thank you for watching, and commenting.
I love your videos. You have really elevated my sound and what I have done for a living to another level. You are to drum tuning and drum education what Jim Chapin was to independence, jazz and be-bop. By the way I've played Rogers for over forty years. I turned down an endorsement from Pearl a long time ago because I would not give them up and I'm ecstatic to see them back. Roy Burns must be looking down with tremendous joy and a huge smile on his face. Roy was a great drummer, innovator and gentlemen. Thanks Kenny
OMG thank you so much for the kind words. They absolutely made my day. I do love my new Rogers drums (and all the vintage ones as well lol). I'm absolutely stoked to hear that my videos have helped you elevate your sound. Truly the #1 goal of my channel is to help drummers get great drum sounds. Roy was amazing as a person, a businessman, and of course a drummer. Thank you so much for watching, and commenting. BTW Pt 2 of this series is now up on my YT th-cam.com/video/xE2XWHHc3AQ/w-d-xo.html The whole step by step lesson is now streamable at www.kennysharretts.com if you wish to help support my channel. It's a great lesson on getting 3 different tuning profiles for a 3 tom setup including 2 tuning profiles I used when I was a drum tech for Kenny Aronoff.
I have used this tuning for my 12” and 16” plus added the 13” and my kit sounds very punchy and honestly with this tuning I think I’ve got the best of it for now. Big thanks!
✊✊✊🙏🙏🙏thank you for watching, and commenting. Please subscribe if you have not done so already.
GOSHDANG those toms sound perfect. And your instruction so straightforward, logical and delivered with such likable enthusiasm. Best drum teching/tuning channel on TH-cam.
Wow I needed that today. Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. Please note the full step by step lesson walks you through all 3 tunings. Streaming it helps support my channel, AND helps you get a great floor tom sound.
Never a dull beat with your vids. Love it.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I try lol. It’s hard sometimes as I’ll be on tour for months not being able to play a kit as much as I’d like. So often i’m rusty when I record my vids as i’m just off a tech run. 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️ Thank you so much for watching. As i’m telling everyone Super Thanks tips are now available on my vids to help support my channel . 🙏🙏🙏
Most players end up tuning their resonant heads too low, and wonder why their toms aren't happening. The larger the drum, the higher the reso head needs to be tuned, vs. the batter. Great video! :)
Thank you so much my friend. Just trying to share the knowledge.
I'd like to know if the reso/batter heads are the same? What I've always heard is it's best to use the same head, single ply and thin on both sides for the brightest tone, and then it just gets darker the thicker film and thicker ply head.
But then nobody ever has single ply batter heads and the heads aren't matched.
So is this perfect fourth tuning for 2 ply batter/1 ply reso or matched heads as well?
I just got all g12s from Evans for my Tom's matched all around. I read that a 12-in Tom is best to start with so I'm trying to go through the drum very slowly from the bottom up and experimenting. Then try to find that same sound but lower and higher in the other 10 and 14.
And you eere right in another video Kenny, the finest tweaks of the key on diecast hoops make a big difference.
Perfect!!!!! This just what what I’m doing. The heads are pretty new so I just want retune!!! You alway so so on point !! Totally love your education!!
Thank you so much for the kind words. Thank you for watching. Stoked this will help.
Thanks for the tips Kenny! I had a hard time tuning my 16" Crystal Beat floor tom for the past year, but I followed this video step-by-step and man it sounds really good now!
Stoked to hear it helped. Thanks for the kind words and please note that Super Thanks is now available on my vids to tip for the tips 🙏🙏🙏✊✊✊
Kenny, I love you, brother. You bring so much joy to everything you do. I wish I had a touring gig so I could hire you! Never change, bro. 👍😃
Thank you so much for the kind words Rusty. I love what I do. Thank you so much for watching.
Kenny, I appreciate what you do and thank you for teaching me how to tune drums. No one explains better than you, trust me. If possible, could we get your tunebot settings for each tuning that you make (in the video description). That would also be a life saver!
Again, thank you very much!
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. All the Drum Dial/Tune-bot settings for each tuning in this video m, along with a step by step tutorial on my tuning system are available in the full lesson now streaming at www.kennysharretts.com/video-courses?wix-vod-video-id=67971679fb4345bb86ccdb20df6074b1&wix-vod-comp-id=comp-lcl5ds5j
It’s only $24.99 (less than a GC drum lesson), and will change the way you tune drums. Streaming also helps to support my work. So please check it out as it will give you way more than you could ever expect from a $24.99 video rental. 🙏🙏🙏
When Kenny said "start over again" (@41 seconds in) giving that creep as fuck grin...... .
Literally gave me chills.
Lolol
You're a genius, Kenny!
You are very kind . 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you so much for watching, and commenting. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Now those are some vintage Rogers drums. I had a Rogers Holiday model w/green sparkle wrap!
Great new setup! Thanks for doing what you do!
My pleasure. Thank you for the kind words, and for watching. 🤘🏻
Thanks! Super fan from spain! Looking forward for the next one.
Wow thank you so much Andre. More to come soon. Please check out www.kennysharretts.com for more in depth lessons.
Great video, thanks! Looking forward to see how you squeeze that 14" floor tom in there :)
It was a fun shoot. Video coming soon. Thank you so much for watching 🤘🏻
Hey Kenny, I'm sure you've heard of them already but if not, it might be worth checking out the Gavin Harrison drum keys by Sonor. They have a grip at the top that allows you to finger tighten them from the key without having to touch the rods, so no finger chafing or grease/oil! Love the vids man.
(edit: Just noticed somebody else suggested a similar thing below. Oh well, more options haha)
Yes, there are other brands that make that kind of drum keys as well. Tama, Remo, Evans.... They're all great, I use them and are really convenient.
Kenny....you da bess😊
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. 🤘🤘🤘 as I’m telling everyone Super Thanks is now available on my vids to help support my channel.
I like these intervals...
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This sounds ace.
Thank you, and thank you for watching. You can learn step by step to get your floor tom to sound like this while supporting my work. Check out the full lesson at
www.kennysharretts.com/video-courses
Thanks for sharing - those drums sound awesome!
My pleasure. Thank you so much for watching, and commenting. 🤘🏻
This is EXACTLY how I tune my kit! My rack tom is a 13x9 instead of a 12x8 so it's nice and full for rock.
One thing I discovered is that the fundamental pitch is the same pitch as the reso, albeit an octave lower. However the relationship between the batter and reso is only a "perfect" perfect fourth when using a two ply head on top. When I use two single ply coated Ambassadors, this does pan out symmetrically. Has anyone else noticed that? I just leave the resos at the pitch I want and then adjust the batters to get the fundamental pitch. Again, an octave lower than the reso pitch.
Not sure what you mean about the single ply heads. Since you're tuning to specific pitches, the type of head you use shouldn't affect the pitches you get.
@@EricT43 I'm referring the the overall fundamental pitch of the drum. If I want a fundamental pitch of B flat for my rack tom (at a Perfect Fourth interval) then the batter is G flat and the reso is B flat. It works with a two ply batter perfectly. With a single ply batter at the same tuning, the tom's fundamental pitch is off a bit. I forget the extent of it, but it's very noticeable.
I'm just pointing out that this is my observation from experimenting. I just don't know why. So I'm asking if anyone else has noticed it themselves.
Thickness of the heads, and multiple plys can affect the shape of the tone, hence your perception of the Pitch. With a Major 3rd (G flat to B flat) especially with a two ply head you will usually get closer to a B. With the Perfect 4th (F to B flat) you are correct. You get pretty much a B flat dead on. With single ply heads the drift from the desired pitch can happen. A lot has to do with how exact your interval is. Thank you so much for commenting, and watching John. As always you have great comments
@@johnreardon4944 I see what you mean now, thanks for explaining. I suppose the relationship between top and bottom heads and the resulting fundamental is very complex. The 2-ply head will take more energy to vibrate at the same frequency as the single-ply, since it is heavier. I'm sure that has some effect on how the 2 heads interact. Interesting observation you made.
@@EricT43 That's the answer I was trying to remember! I remember now Rick Beato mentioning that in one of his videos. Or was it Kenny? I forget. Haha!
I'm switching drum kits this week at my venue. Going from a 1978 Pearl luan 13x9 to a Pearl Reference Pure 12x9. I wonder how the depth ratio affects the energy. Probably a little, but I'm sure not as much as the type of heads. It will be a fun experiment!
Perfect force!
Hey Yaw, I dig the Tune-Bot too.
My drums never sounded so good. With the snare at 295/398 G#. 26" Kick at 70/94 F.
Kinda sounds like Bonham's ?
Love your videos Kenny
Indeed a lot of cats use this tool. Same with Drum Dial. That's why I added settings for both to my videos. Never used one before that, but the tool is pretty cool. I added the settings to help those who use these tools have a better guide for the application of my techniques. Thank you so much for watching, and commenting.
im nutting to death about that rogers kit… luv square lugs, and dude, is that red or PURPLE oyster? omg if thats like a purple
I LOVE THIS KIT. It’s the new Red Ripple from Roger’s although it’s more of a magenta than red. In person it’s gorgeous.
Kenny sounds like the Bob Ross of drumtuning.... ;)
🤣🤣🤣 It’s been mentioned. Thank you for watching.
Well Uncle Kenny That was so good :)
Thank you so much my friend. Please check out www.kennysharretts.com for a full step by step lesson on this drum.
THIS is the way.
Thank you my brother
Hey Kenny! Thanks for the video. :-) Love them all.
Can you remember the tune bot numbers from the resonant head of the 16" Tom?
Greetz from Germany Tim
Hi Tim. Thank you so much for the kind words. Stoked that you enjoy the vids. The full lesson has ALL the Frequencies/Tune Bot settings, and is available to stream at www.kennysharretts.com Streaming a lesson helps support my channel, and gives you a great lesson in tuning a floor tom. Thank you so much for watching, and commenting.
I love your videos Kenny !
But what i dont understand: with the note of the heads (c, g or whatver) what frequences are meant: the frequences of the lugs (tune-bot) or the frequence of the head in general, maybe played in the centre ?
I always tune to the frequency at the tension Rod. If I want to tune to the center, I adjust the tension rods accordingly. Thank you so much for watching, and commenting.
Hey kenny luv ur vids, i need some advice, i gotta tama hyperdrive, im having a job gettin my toms dialled in having low mass lugs and the starcast mount im having trouble sinching the hoop dwn finger tight without it flat spotting, any advice.
I’m not sure what flat spotting is BUT I do know that sometimes hoop systems like the star cast make finger tightening quite the challenge. In situations like this I use a pair of keys like the Evans/Tama/firefly keys with the knurled tip to brush vs turn up into “finger tight” position. I hope this helps. The Hyper drive are very sensitive to slight turns. 🙏 thank you for watching and for commenting. Happy holidays.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Those drums sound amazing! The top head was tuned at 105 on the tunebot. What was the number for the bottom head? Thanks again!!
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching. My pleasure to share. To find out all the tunings, and their settings for TB and DD please stream the lesson at www.kennysharretts.com It's only $9.99 and it's a GREAT lesson in drum tuning for any drum, much less a 16" floor tom. PLUS it helps support my YT channel. For less than the price of a GC Drum lesson to teach a kid how to play "Highway To Hell" you learn how to get 3 killer floor tom tunings as taught to you by a drum tech for the Grateful Dead, AND support my channel. I hope this feels win/win to you because that was my goal. 😀Again thank you for watching, and commenting.
i love it
Thank you 🙏 and thank you for watching 🤘🏻
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching 🤘🏻
I tune my toms with tunebot. I have all the lugs of a tom at the same frequency (e.g. 160hz) but then if I later put on the drumdial the lugs are not at the same tension, in fact there is quite a difference between one lug and another. Why is that?
Because tension is relative, and also oftentimes there can be little inconsistencies in the hoop or shell. During my vids I will often get 9 out of 10 lugs perfectly matched in pitch and tension but there’s that 1 lug just a hair off in tension, but perfect in pitch. Usually by then the drum sounds so good, I put down the tools, and shoot the video 😂.
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What is the depth of this 16" floor tom? Thanks.
Hi Kenny! Can you please share what the M-Audio keyboard you have is? Thank you.
It's an Axiom 49. Thank you for watching.
@@KennySharretts thank you! If not too much to ask, what software do you use to get sounds? Thanks!
sounds great. What is the tension on the drumheads if you use the drumdial?
Thank you so much for the kind words. The drum dial and tune bot settings are included with the full step by step lesson available to stream at www.kennysharretts.com/ppv-only-page
In the full lesson I take you step by step through all the tunings in this vid all for less than the price of a cool T-shirt. Streaming helps to support my channel, and gives you a wicked set of tuning skills to boot.
Any tips for tuning a 10"? Currently have it tuned to a D on the batter and an A on the reso. My setup is 10", 12", & 16. I tune my batter heads tighter than my reso
That’s a great inverted tuning if it gives you what you need. Depending on the head you are using a D is pretty high, but I bet it cuts like a knife. Thank you for watching.
@@KennySharretts what about for an 18" floor tom if my sizes are 12", 13", 16", & 18". I figured the 12 would stay at a Bb to F, but what would be a perfrct 4th from that for a 13" and a perfect 4th from a 16" being a C and a G on the bottom?
Very nice boss
Thank you my brother.
Hi Kenny. Is that an 8" 12? Thanks. From Pittsburgh PA
Yes indeed. And yes a vid of the type you requested is in the works. May take a bit, but it’s coming.
What’s the best way to tune a 1976 Ludwig cortex 20” floor Tom?
Uh, he literally just spent an entire video teaching you how tune your floor tom. You are commenting on a “HOW TO TUNE A FLOOR TOM” video!!! Are you fucking kidding? 🤦♂️
@@RustyKnorr *Cranky Knorr
@@RustyKnorr in fairness it says how to tune a 16” floor Tom. I have a 20” with stupid bottom end which I would like to know if how I’ve tuned it is right because there might be different methods with a floor Tom that big. Now Is that okay with you or did I need to ask your permission you fucking plum!
I think what Rusty is trying to say is he sees how you can extrapolate a 20” tuning from this 16” tuning. As far as note range goes you might find that the 20 batter May start around a C or C# then try a 4th or 3rd up on the bottom head. I have two step by step floor tom tuning lessons on www.kennysharretts.com that if you do them on a 20” floor but extrapolate fir pitch you will find some great tunings for that 20 🤘🏻🤘🏻thank you so much for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@KennySharretts thankyou Kenny. That is all I wanted and I’ll take a look. Thanks mate 👍🏻
could you do both inverted tunings and regular tunings for toms? for example my 10" is a D 275hz/A 220hz, 12" Bb 233hz/F 175hz, & my 16 was at C 123hz/G 98hz. but it feels a bit high on my 16". so could I do the G#/C# on my 16" but leave the 10" & 12" with the inverted tuning?
Absolutely. What ever works for you is what you should do. Do note that it’s a big gap tonally between that 12” and 16” You might have to mitigate a bit between a bit lower tuning on the toms and maybe an A/D or B/E on the floor. Have fun 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
What about the resonant head, how is that tuned
The video discusses the tunings for the bottom head as well. In the full step by step lesson at www.kennysharretts.com I walk you through tuning the top, and bottom heads. Thank you as always for watching my friend.
is every song different then? do you have to retune drums for every single song in a studio according to the key?
No but if that’s what you are going for it would be a good idea. Thank you for watching.
I don’t tune my drums; I tension them. Each shell has its own sweet spot, and different heads reach proper tension at different pitches so you can’t really aim for a specific pitch if you change head types. But the drums should sound “in tune” (if you will) with one another as long as you use the same head type for all of them and target the same tension.
Snare drum I treat a little differently - I tension the batter head, and then I tune the snare side head to about a perfect 4th higher.
But then said u tuned the snare. LOL No seriously I understand your thought process on tension vs tuning. Like when I put tension on a guitar string to achieve a note, but with 6 or 8 or 10 pts its more of a tensioning, vs a tuning. Thanks for watching.
what size is the other tom ?
It’s an 8” x 12”. I also did a vid with a 9” x 13” Tom and the 16” floor tom.
th-cam.com/video/MNV5pePB1ps/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching.
Can you do an 18" Floor tom
Yes
Kenny! Your videos are extremely easy to follow and understand! Thank you! 🙏 🙏 😁Are you able to do a video of on the bottom skin in relation to the top batter head. Cheers!
Kaj_drums_music
Wow thank you so much for the kind words. Needed that today. In the full step by step lesson that is streamable at www.kennysharretts.com for only $9.99, I go more deeply into the bottom head, and the tuning interval relationship. Same with the lesson on a 14” Floor Tom. In the meantime there is a series on my YT channel channel that discusses tuning intervals on a 12” tom that may guide you as well. Thank you so much for watching.
@@KennySharretts thanks so much Kenny! Your one of the few drummers on youtube I really enjoy to watch and learn from really great videos you make! 😁 Thanks Kenny! And drum on! 🥁🥁🥁🎶🎶🎶
Also I don't meen to be forward or rude but just had a thought kinda wondering if you would like to check out my TH-cam channel ➡️ kaj_drums_music I am doing drum covers and solo stuff, would be absolutely amazing to have someone of your magnitude to check out my vids. Best regards.
Kris.
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Finger tight is all rite
#truth lol!
pretty bummed he didnt show the tuning after finger tighten.. thats literally what i came here for.
First of all thank you for watching. Secondly if you want to learn the process step by step while helping to support my YT channel the full lesson is available to stream for only $24.99 at
www.kennysharretts.com/video-courses
It will teach you a set of tuning skills that you can use on any floor tom with 8 lugs. Thank you again for watching.
@@KennySharretts sorry about jumping the gun on this comment before watching whole video 🤦🏼
On the other hand, . My iPad is older, and the browser is having trouble when i delete comments. I tried to delete this.
Your website is killer!.. your information is phenomenal. I love that you use tunebot, dial, etc. I have iDrumTune and dial. I will eventually buy your tuning course. Thank you!
Why no mention of the resonant head?!
I mention the reso head throughout this highlight video, AND the full step by step lesson at www.kennysharretts.com