I'm a retired IT guy and have experience playing this MS game. This move by MS isn't aimed at the regular user though it may affect them. This is aimed at Corporate America. The roll out of Windows 11 in the corporate community hasn't been as fast and widespread as MS hoped it would be. It take a lot of time and money to move from Win 10 to Win 11 in a corporate environment, esp when hardware may need to be replaced, and MS probably hopes to speed this up by bottle-necking Office 365. Keep in mind this isn't about just upgrading an operating system. There are many custom corporate apps that are designed to be used with the current Windows and these must be tested and working before any upgrade can happen. Many of these programs have modified config files both client and server side and these might need to be modified and/or replaced to work under a new OS. I't not a simple task. Like I said, this may affect the regular home user but that's not where MS makes their money and at best, the regular home user is nothing more than collateral damage.
You are exactly right about big corporations being the primary customers of MS. But I do not believe that MS will bottleneck MS 365 for those enterprise customers who purchase ESU for Windows 10. The people who will get caught are small business and home users as you said. But even those folks can purchase an ESU, and I will be surprised if the automatic updates to MS 365 don't work for anyone who purchases and ESU. I don't think MS 365 will be blocked completely for those who don't purchase an ESU, but they certainly won't get automatic updates. They will be like those of us who purchased the full Office suite with a one-time payment. The software still works but no updates. I am still using Office Professional 2010 on my old desktop running Windows 10 Pro. I got it through the Home Use Program for around $10 before I retired. I don't edit any files with Word 2010 or Excel 2010 that come in through email or downloads but it's otherwise still useful. I use Office 2021 Professional Plus on my "new" desktop, purchased with a cheap license, probably from the grey market.
@@JeffRyman69 I agree that MS 365 won't be blocked for corporate users or anyone else if they don't migrate to Win 11. The ESU is a standard practice allowing company's time to migrate and will keep most people going assuming they want to pay for the licence.. Without the ESU you will get no updates but the software will continue to work. If you've worked in IT you know updates are of prime importance and most shops will move quickly to get back on track. I won't spend time on my conspiracy theory about the push to Win 11 since it's unverified garbage but I see this push as a priority for MS. Also, I think to risk their real money maker, which is of course is office, on forcing people to Win 11 as a big gamble. As for me, it's almost a non-issue since I don't use office or run windows any longer and haven't for years, even though I did create a custom Win 11 ISO that eliminates the bloat and most of the spyware. Even then, most updates to the system tend to restore parts of it. If you're an MS shop you will move over. If you're a regular or small office user you don't have to upgrade but you can forget about future updates without paying extra for a temporary pass.
It's really weird that Microsoft always pushes for newer and crappier versions. XP was rock solid. Vista had terrible performance. 7 was absolutely great. 8 was basically a Smartphone OS, same as 8.1. 10 again, was pretty good. And now 11, filled with useless AI crap. I honestly feel like, if Windows just made a simple and useful OS, they would have more market share. Instead, they try to jump on literally every hype train and half-ass it. No wonder why people switch to Linux.
XP was never rock solid. According to Dave Cutler, who came from DEC to MS to work on Windows NT, his team found tons of errors in XP. Some they fixed, but there were hundreds that could not be fixed, but only partially mitigated. Listen to his interview with Dave Plummer on the Dave's Garage channel.
Yeah I totally agree with you there windows 11 is a Load of crap I'm sorry to say this but a lot of people are ready to move to AI I do get you there well said
As a new Microsoft 365 subscriber on Windows 11 I kind of find this dumb like why not support it for a bit longer after end of support because businesses that will continue using Windows 10 after the support date via ESUs still rely on Microsoft Office
You can bet that Microsoft 365 will still be supported on Enterprise versions of Windows 10 Pro for companies that purchase the ESU. Enterprise companies are the principal customers of Microsoft. They pay lots of money for site-wide licenses of Windows, MS 365, and other vertically integrated software. Microsoft is not going to deliberately piss off those companies.
This tactic may work at an Enterprise level but home users have an array of options to MS Office. OnlyOffice Desktop Editor is free and is fantastic alternative. Supports anything from Mac to Windows, from XP all the way up to 11. And of course, supports Linux too. But this tactic though, it's got anti-trust written all over it.
I bought Microsoft Office 2007 in 2010 to replace Microsoft Office 2000. I use Excel because I can insert a picture as a comment in a cell. Otherwise I would use the free Office suites.
Ha Ha. Their weakest threat yet. There are better suites that ms office bloatware. I have stopped using it, so will others. Microsoft keep shooting themselves in the foot. They lost the phone market and they'll lose the desktop too.
@@Carrion2 It seems to have improved a lot these days. One flaw it's database module doesn't work with dbf files. Softmaker's freeoffice is also excellent.
It depends on your hardware and the games you play. If you are using a newer-gen Intel (12th gen or newer) or AMD (7000 series or newer) system then yes, you MAY get better performance, but there is no definitive yes or no answer to that question and anyone that says otherwise doesn't understand the nuances. There are so many different hardware combinations, and even certain game engines work better with a specific OS versus another. I use Windows 11 because I always run the latest hardware, and use an HDR monitor which works much better on 11 than on Windows 10. If I run synthetic benchmarks I do occasionally get higher scores on Windows 10, but on the games that I play, I get about the same FPS and an overall better experience (due to things like MPO support and such) on Windows 11. Just my opinion as an avid computer enthusiast!
@@othoric336 Don't forget the recent news that a Windows 11 update basically made a whole slew of Ubisoft games like Assassins Creed, Star Wars Outlaws, and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora unplayable. And it took them weeks to fix that issue.
This is one of the many reasons I left windows. I dont understand why Microsoft can't just have one good os and then do their stupid windows as a service crap. Microsoft has completely lost touch with the average user and its really showing in recent months.
Every argument I can think of against windows 11 also applies to chrome os, other than resource requirements. Pick a Linux distro that doesn’t report telemetry to an evil corporation, otherwise you should just upgrade to windows 11, it isn’t really bad as far as user experience goes.
@@raginald7mars408 Well, Win 10 had all the 3D programs, that crapped themselfes half the time. Paint 3D got shut down last November, so only 3D Viewer is still around. Taking that away gives us Win 7 with simplistic design and a backdoor for MS to jam their AI foot into.
Microsoft is out of touch with the average user.
I'm a retired IT guy and have experience playing this MS game. This move by MS isn't aimed at the regular user though it may affect them. This is aimed at Corporate America. The roll out of Windows 11 in the corporate community hasn't been as fast and widespread as MS hoped it would be. It take a lot of time and money to move from Win 10 to Win 11 in a corporate environment, esp when hardware may need to be replaced, and MS probably hopes to speed this up by bottle-necking Office 365. Keep in mind this isn't about just upgrading an operating system. There are many custom corporate apps that are designed to be used with the current Windows and these must be tested and working before any upgrade can happen. Many of these programs have modified config files both client and server side and these might need to be modified and/or replaced to work under a new OS. I't not a simple task. Like I said, this may affect the regular home user but that's not where MS makes their money and at best, the regular home user is nothing more than collateral damage.
You are exactly right about big corporations being the primary customers of MS. But I do not believe that MS will bottleneck MS 365 for those enterprise customers who purchase ESU for Windows 10. The people who will get caught are small business and home users as you said. But even those folks can purchase an ESU, and I will be surprised if the automatic updates to MS 365 don't work for anyone who purchases and ESU. I don't think MS 365 will be blocked completely for those who don't purchase an ESU, but they certainly won't get automatic updates. They will be like those of us who purchased the full Office suite with a one-time payment. The software still works but no updates. I am still using Office Professional 2010 on my old desktop running Windows 10 Pro. I got it through the Home Use Program for around $10 before I retired. I don't edit any files with Word 2010 or Excel 2010 that come in through email or downloads but it's otherwise still useful. I use Office 2021 Professional Plus on my "new" desktop, purchased with a cheap license, probably from the grey market.
@@JeffRyman69 I agree that MS 365 won't be blocked for corporate users or anyone else if they don't migrate to Win 11. The ESU is a standard practice allowing company's time to migrate and will keep most people going assuming they want to pay for the licence.. Without the ESU you will get no updates but the software will continue to work. If you've worked in IT you know updates are of prime importance and most shops will move quickly to get back on track.
I won't spend time on my conspiracy theory about the push to Win 11 since it's unverified garbage but I see this push as a priority for MS. Also, I think to risk their real money maker, which is of course is office, on forcing people to Win 11 as a big gamble.
As for me, it's almost a non-issue since I don't use office or run windows any longer and haven't for years, even though I did create a custom Win 11 ISO that eliminates the bloat and most of the spyware. Even then, most updates to the system tend to restore parts of it. If you're an MS shop you will move over. If you're a regular or small office user you don't have to upgrade but you can forget about future updates without paying extra for a temporary pass.
It's really weird that Microsoft always pushes for newer and crappier versions. XP was rock solid. Vista had terrible performance. 7 was absolutely great. 8 was basically a Smartphone OS, same as 8.1. 10 again, was pretty good. And now 11, filled with useless AI crap. I honestly feel like, if Windows just made a simple and useful OS, they would have more market share. Instead, they try to jump on literally every hype train and half-ass it. No wonder why people switch to Linux.
Copilot is a shortcut that runs in cloud.
XP was never rock solid. According to Dave Cutler, who came from DEC to MS to work on Windows NT, his team found tons of errors in XP. Some they fixed, but there were hundreds that could not be fixed, but only partially mitigated. Listen to his interview with Dave Plummer on the Dave's Garage channel.
All the more reason for Windows users to establish outdoor protests against Windows 11 and demand continuation of Windows 10 support
Yeah I totally agree with you there windows 11 is a Load of crap I'm sorry to say this but a lot of people are ready to move to AI I do get you there well said
@@ryanearl8034 Only psychopaths would be ready to move to AI and let it destroy us all.
Does Microsoft not remember that Office 365 is a subscription service? When they cancel support, users will cancel their subscription. How stupid!
As a new Microsoft 365 subscriber on Windows 11 I kind of find this dumb like why not support it for a bit longer after end of support because businesses that will continue using Windows 10 after the support date via ESUs still rely on Microsoft Office
That’s a good reason to get rid of M365
You can bet that Microsoft 365 will still be supported on Enterprise versions of Windows 10 Pro for companies that purchase the ESU. Enterprise companies are the principal customers of Microsoft. They pay lots of money for site-wide licenses of Windows, MS 365, and other vertically integrated software. Microsoft is not going to deliberately piss off those companies.
This tactic may work at an Enterprise level but home users have an array of options to MS Office. OnlyOffice Desktop Editor is free and is fantastic alternative. Supports anything from Mac to Windows, from XP all the way up to 11. And of course, supports Linux too.
But this tactic though, it's got anti-trust written all over it.
I bought Microsoft Office 2007 in 2010 to replace Microsoft Office 2000. I use Excel because I can insert a picture as a comment in a cell. Otherwise I would use the free Office suites.
I really hope libre office gets good enough to be an actual competitor to Microsoft eventually
What about perpetual MS Office licensed software like MS Office 2021 & 2024?
I use Libre Office anyway.
Based
Ha Ha. Their weakest threat yet. There are better suites that ms office bloatware. I have stopped using it, so will others. Microsoft keep shooting themselves in the foot. They lost the phone market and they'll lose the desktop too.
Libre office 🗿
@@Carrion2 It seems to have improved a lot these days. One flaw it's database module doesn't work with dbf files. Softmaker's freeoffice is also excellent.
MS 365 is a ripoff. Office 2013 does everything I need. Buy once, instead of paying a subscription price over and over and over...
@@BurrPulch While the design is a bit too old for my taste, there're still some copies of Office 2019 around.
Once Windows 10 support have ended I'll be ending my support to Micro$oft. 😏
Never used it anyway.
Does Windows 11 provide same gaming performance as windows 10 please reply
Worse, because your device requires more power to dedicate to the operating system.
It depends on your hardware and the games you play. If you are using a newer-gen Intel (12th gen or newer) or AMD (7000 series or newer) system then yes, you MAY get better performance, but there is no definitive yes or no answer to that question and anyone that says otherwise doesn't understand the nuances. There are so many different hardware combinations, and even certain game engines work better with a specific OS versus another. I use Windows 11 because I always run the latest hardware, and use an HDR monitor which works much better on 11 than on Windows 10. If I run synthetic benchmarks I do occasionally get higher scores on Windows 10, but on the games that I play, I get about the same FPS and an overall better experience (due to things like MPO support and such) on Windows 11. Just my opinion as an avid computer enthusiast!
@@othoric336 Don't forget the recent news that a Windows 11 update basically made a whole slew of Ubisoft games like Assassins Creed, Star Wars Outlaws, and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora unplayable. And it took them weeks to fix that issue.
YAY I use Office LTSC
and yet they offer access over Linux through web... what a mess...
There are so many bugs and errors in windows 11 i really liked the windows 10.
This is one of the many reasons I left windows. I dont understand why Microsoft can't just have one good os and then do their stupid windows as a service crap. Microsoft has completely lost touch with the average user and its really showing in recent months.
I will buy a new laptop in the end of 2025 and than I dont care of my desktop but everything shall over to the laptop. Hope it works.
i will use chrome os after win 10.
what a downgrade
Every argument I can think of against windows 11 also applies to chrome os, other than resource requirements. Pick a Linux distro that doesn’t report telemetry to an evil corporation, otherwise you should just upgrade to windows 11, it isn’t really bad as far as user experience goes.
I stay with win 7 forever - win 10 is already BAD enough. micro Soft = Terror organi zation
@@raginald7mars408 Well, Win 10 had all the 3D programs, that crapped themselfes half the time. Paint 3D got shut down last November, so only 3D Viewer is still around. Taking that away gives us Win 7 with simplistic design and a backdoor for MS to jam their AI foot into.