What happens if you expose Windows 98 to the Internet in 2024?

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  • @Dr3dze
    @Dr3dze 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1291

    next video: what happens if you expose yourself to a Microsoft employee

    • @poochychin
      @poochychin 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

      Dr mario

    • @ceemeck
      @ceemeck 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ​@@poochychin 💀 what?

    • @dragonslayerornstein387
      @dragonslayerornstein387 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I have insight on this. Um, they're either incompetent when it comes to windows.
      Or, they're the kind who can just, fix everything, make it into a live server, connect multiple computers, media box, ect. Knows the codes for error, if its the graphics card, cpu, ram, motherboard, powersupply, under violated, or volted, history of the chips, connectors, etc. You name it. But also think you're incompetent and that windows is not for the end user to use, also, the best version is enterprise, yada yada powershell better.

    • @ENNEN420
      @ENNEN420 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You get an invite to Little Saint James 2: James Harder if they know Bill.

    • @john_doe1st
      @john_doe1st 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @carlosanjosdev
    @carlosanjosdev 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +553

    "the operational system is older than I am" I feel so old. I got the physical version upon launch

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      I still remember using MS DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, Millennium (never used 2000) and later iterations. When he said that i felt like an ancient mummy.

    • @yns000
      @yns000 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Aight unc

    • @DarrenGriffitt
      @DarrenGriffitt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      I was born in 95 but didn't play around with it until I was about 4 or 5. I decided I was doing my due diligence (I guess anyways; I was a child) and was moving folders to the Recycle Bin. Needless to say, I was impressed at both my mother for not getting angry at me, and her using MS-DOS to restore the WINDOWS folder.

    • @Blinkerd00d
      @Blinkerd00d 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Me too... I remember upgrading from 95. I was like 14 at the time but still...

    • @Vlad-1986
      @Vlad-1986 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I actually got 3.1. Not at launch, but it was before 95 existed, and only because I didn't had a computer in 1992. I am older than that still 🥲

  • @DL-mk4mz
    @DL-mk4mz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +133

    Microsoft: We've got problems. They hate windows 11 so much they're trying to downgrade to 98.

    • @speedyboishan87
      @speedyboishan87 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Windows 11 has similar issues to Windows 10, the most famous with the Start menu freezing or crashing. Microsoft dont know whats causing it. Unreliable Microsoft are.

  • @trevoreyre2775
    @trevoreyre2775 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +368

    Up next: Exposing an abacus to the internet in 2024.

    • @herauthon
      @herauthon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      that beads it !

    • @bondjovi4595
      @bondjovi4595 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Exposing enigma to the internet. 😆

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Abacus: 🦠🧫🤧😷🤒🦠🧫🦠🧫

    • @laalpattharkedevata
      @laalpattharkedevata 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@the_mariocrafter i remember your jadoo killscreens :3

    • @albedesigns
      @albedesigns 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +187

    "This operating system is older than I am"... and suddenly I just felt a whole lot older than I already felt

    • @warclan5429
      @warclan5429 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well a video made by a dumb teenager that does not know what is he doing and googles everything

    • @KyanoAng3l0
      @KyanoAng3l0 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Same. Grew up with Windows 3.1, 95 and 98. I thought Eric is a fellow Millennial or a Gen Xer.

    • @albedesigns
      @albedesigns 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same lol I started learning front end in 99 so I remember installing win 98 from win 95! 😅

    • @AutoFirePad
      @AutoFirePad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      cp/m here :\

  • @mr.pumpkinn
    @mr.pumpkinn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +408

    Bro is running windows 98 inside of windows 7 inside of... *W H A T*

    • @system128
      @system128 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +129

      Their host OS is most likely Linux because of the use of KDE's kwin and Konsole at some points of the video

    • @MrTropicalFusion
      @MrTropicalFusion 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Makes me feel like I'm in the Matrix.

    • @notgad3130
      @notgad3130 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@system128the host os is proxmox, he said so in the video, the kde you see is because he is using a web kvm to see the vm

    • @hmhamam_ham
      @hmhamam_ham 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      He is running Windows 7 under Proxmox which is a virtualization OS based on Debian. I believe he is accessing the Win7 installation using Remmina or from the Proxmox "console". He appears to be viewing it with a Linux flavor running KDE.

    • @benfen8798
      @benfen8798 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@system128 yeah i think Proxmox is linux

  • @colindragan9352
    @colindragan9352 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    I have a dedicated Windows 98 PC that I use for retro games, software, and I connect it to the internet from time to time, mostly to do retro web browsing via the internet archive. Never had any problems. It can't even connect to most modern sites (and probably vise-versa) because it's so outdated. It's probably like you said, security by obscurity. Anyone looking to hack computers doesn't really have a reason to target Win9x anymore.

  • @mendyc158
    @mendyc158 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    Maybe the hackers were the friends we made along the way

    • @yungxxilax9194
      @yungxxilax9194 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hackers before: I got into your pc, internet, bank account, stole your files, and corrupted your bios, bye bye
      hackers nowdays: click herez to get robux
      but there is still lots of vulnerable software, and it is still possible to hack into any device

  • @pythonlibrarian224
    @pythonlibrarian224 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I get the message, we should all switch to windows 98 to stay safe on the internet.

    • @mho...
      @mho... 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "only" issue with that is to find 16/32bit programs!

    • @anon7149
      @anon7149 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@mho...32 bit shouldn't be too hard but 16 bit becomes unbearable. Feeding an 16 bit OS a 32 bit image would be like giving a cola to a victorian child

    • @mho...
      @mho... 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anon7149 first of all: victorian age children where well acquainted with cocaine(cola) 😅
      and being a 90s teenager, i still have a bunch 16/32 bit games in a box somewhere, its not that outlandish! all these modern systems just dont know how to deal with many of them unfortunately, if you dont use emulators!...and even then its a tough pill to swallow for modern systems in any case!

    • @mho...
      @mho... 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anon7149 well, some stupid snowflake censored/deleted my reply, because it talked about the historic fact of cola's original ingredient, being well known to children in the victorian age🙄 ......
      but being a 90s teenager, i still own a bunch of old 32/16 bit programs in a box somewhere ^^ and basically none of them can be used/run on any modern machine! even emulators struggle sometimes to execute a 16 bit one on modern machines!...but they are still out there 😆

  • @FrostedGeulleisia
    @FrostedGeulleisia 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    I'm actually quite interested in how 2000 SP4 vs XP RTM vs fully updated XP would end up, if there were any patches that actually made a difference in the long run

    • @arnolduk123
      @arnolduk123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Windows 95/98 are the most secure OS's exposed to the net as there are only a couple of services/processes that are vulnerable. Compare that with Windows 7 upwards that expose hundreds. The more exposed the more exploitable.

    • @AndreDeLimburger
      @AndreDeLimburger 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Are Blaster and Sasser still around?

    • @moardargons8160
      @moardargons8160 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I remember that W2K SP0 would be infected before you finished updating it. This was with a DSL modem directly connected to the internet. You had to remember to only connect to the internet *after* everything was set up and firewalled. I used the ZoneAlarm firewall back in those days.

    • @AndreDeLimburger
      @AndreDeLimburger 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@moardargons8160 so did xp gold

    • @arnolduk123
      @arnolduk123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@moardargons8160 Very true. I remember setting up a clean W2K pc for a customer and when I connected the pc to their DSL router the pc was hit with a ton of messenger and udp attacks from neigbour computers on the DSL line.

  • @basspig
    @basspig 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    I assume you mean by Expose as in connect directly to the internet without a router firewall. Because router firewalls pretty much stop everything unless you're visiting websites with that Windows 98 browser.

    • @SuperGiggun
      @SuperGiggun 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Yuh that's the idea

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      DMZ.

    • @alandobrowski2876
      @alandobrowski2876 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's not just the firewall, the local network is behind a nat.

    • @basspig
      @basspig 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alandobrowski2876 I have a piece of test equipment that runs Windows XP embedded and I've not any issues. But for safety, I blocked the internet to that device at the router.

  • @MasterFrag91
    @MasterFrag91 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    I'm often amazed when people get up in arms over connecting your ancient machines to the internet. After a certain point, malware developers cease targeting those old platforms. You don't see anything targeting Win9x because nobody builds malware for the 9x kernel anymore, if you installed something like KernelEx (an NT compatibility layer for 9x) you might get some issues, because malware IS built for the NT kernel, but that's likely the only instance where you may see issues. The same can likely be said for MacOS 7-9, nobody targets those systems because NOT ONLY are they outdated operating systems that nobody runs anymore, but they also run on a vastly different architecture than most current computers on the market.
    Connecting NT-based systems to the internet with no firewall is suicide, though.

    • @skycaptain95
      @skycaptain95 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Completely and confidently incorrect. Malware hosts to this day scan for old OSes precisely because of their use in important outdated equipment. Connecting anything older than windows 7 to the Internet without a strict whitelist firewall WILL result in infection. Usually within a day. Windows 7 is also questionable at this point.

    • @MasterFrag91
      @MasterFrag91 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@skycaptain95 So... about that. I have a PowerMac G4, an iMac G3, and a Windows 98SE machine that regularly stay connected to the internet, and occasionally run for days on end.
      I have NEVER had any sort of malware on those systems. None of those operating systems are particularly chatty, they don't run many network services, and with any decent firewall (even just the basic one your normal consumer router provides) there's very little chance of an infection unless you're stupid and try to browse untrusted sites with outdated browsers.
      I have network services I want to access on those machines to pull applications from my Unraid server, and I haven't had any issues at all.
      Now, if we're talking fully exposing the systems to the internet, with no firewall, or hell, just a direct connection to your modem, then yes, that is a colossally stupid move, and you WILL get an infection sooner rather than later. But this isn't true if you're doing it like I, a normal human bean, does it.
      Hypothetically, it opens me up to malware. Realistically, it just lets my legacy systems use my network services.

    • @MasterFrag91
      @MasterFrag91 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      ​@@skycaptain95 Well, youtube decided to eat my previous attempt at a reply, but the short version is: If you have even a semi-competent firewall (even the one your basic consumer router provides) this isn't an issue. I have multiple classic MacOS machines, and a Win98SE machine that are regularly connected to my network to gain access to locally hosted network services, that have never gained any sort of malware by doing so.
      If you're connecting it directly, without a firewall, then yes, that's a colossally dumb move, but with a firewall? Pretty safe, actually. Outdated NT based OSes are where dragons lie, because those OSes have far more active network services that might connect themselves to the internet, and thus be infected remotely. Win9x and MacOS 7-9 don't really have those issues, some of them have updaters, but those are easily disabled.
      Is it something I'd recommend everyone do? Hell no. But is it as disastrously, cataclysmically dangerous as everyone says? Also no.

    • @dougle03
      @dougle03 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      However there might be lots of legacy systems running very old OS's and no one's had the bravery to upgrade their os's... It does happen. LArge companies sometimes hide dirty secrets like a business critical application that's been running for 25 years, the source code was lost years ago and thus no one dares touch it...

    • @skycaptain95
      @skycaptain95 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MasterFrag91 yes, a strict whitelist firewall is really the best protection you can get (aside from not being a dumbass). We don't fundamentally disagree.

  • @madzen112
    @madzen112 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    You forgot to imitate those dial up modem beeps verbally

  • @shinichiyao7503
    @shinichiyao7503 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    9x is safer than NT these days

    • @EricParker
      @EricParker  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      Pretty much. They're too different and nobody is using an internet connected 9x PC for anything important.

    • @Nic98SE
      @Nic98SE 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      That's why Windows 98 is the better operating system. You might not even going to need anti virus if malware evolves where it can't run on 9x systems. If you want to use a 9x operating system I choose 98. Because it's the most stable and more designed for the internet. The one mars probe even still operates on Windows 98.

    • @selami32
      @selami32 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@Nic98SE Your name is make sense

    • @Nic98SE
      @Nic98SE 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@selami32 Haha.

    • @shade221
      @shade221 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Nic98SE me is arguably more stable depending on the hardware you're using.

  • @linuxares
    @linuxares 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    SE = Second Edition and not Server Edition ;)

  • @ares106
    @ares106 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I remember in college connecting unpatched version of xp to the internet for the first time and got what felt like hundreds of malware in minutes. This was in the 00’s.

    • @fra93ilgrande
      @fra93ilgrande 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That shouldn't have happened with a firewall

    • @ares106
      @ares106 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fra93ilgrande probably, or could have been something special about the college network, it had one of the fastest internet connections at the time but maybe it was insecure.

  • @milasudril
    @milasudril 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    On windows 98, SMB is not turned on by default. You need to turn it on via the control panel networking applet. One thing to try is to install Microsoft PWS. Could the content you serve affect whether or not you get "hacked"?

  • @ceemeck
    @ceemeck 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Really like your content, unique and educational, no bloat in your videos either which is common nowadays

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Takes me back to the good old days.
    For a while with Windows 2000/XP there was the sasser worm, like you would expose any PC running Windows 2000 to the internet and it was a matter of minutes until lsass.exe was exploited.

    • @mho...
      @mho... 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      still a thing if you connect a clean win xp these days!

    • @zooli9
      @zooli9 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it happened in his 2000 video almost instantly :'D

  • @Difluoroacetamide
    @Difluoroacetamide 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Leave an old Linux distro exposed to the Internet next.

    • @djksfhakhaks
      @djksfhakhaks 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Ahh. I remember back in the day subnet scanning for ftp sites and getting /etc/passwd and using jack the ripper so I could telnet in. Encryption sure messed everything up. I blame AOL getting internet access.

    • @nobeltnium
      @nobeltnium 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@djksfhakhaks good o' days

    • @noJobProgrammer
      @noJobProgrammer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nothing will happen, it will work

    • @djksfhakhaks
      @djksfhakhaks 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@noJobProgrammer imagine being such a fanboi of anything so much that you believe its unbackable.

    • @Difluoroacetamide
      @Difluoroacetamide 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@noJobProgrammer OLD linux distro, like Ubuntu 12.04 or Debian 3. No firewalls no nothing, just a base install exposed to the internet

  • @Mrshoujo
    @Mrshoujo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    First install Win98SE. Upgrade Internet Exploder. Install Firefox. Install Unofficial Service Pack.

  • @CopeAndSeethe12939
    @CopeAndSeethe12939 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    98 was still vulnerable to certain DoS which was patched in 98SE (which to my recollection had NO ports open upon install). I remember back in the day working on 98SE and it was more secure than anything else - however - I had hacked the kernal, removed fiolog.vxd and enabled NTFS and other things, and bundled it into the installation. Quite sure the vanilla 98SE was the more "secure out of the box" of all windows to date.

  • @MiCHIBiKU_
    @MiCHIBiKU_ 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    next video: what happen if you actually the Microsoft itself

  • @Rombizio
    @Rombizio 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Weird to think I used to install games on DOS 5.0 and 98 seemed like a huge improvement over Win 95. And this man was not even born when 98 was out. I fele ancient.

  • @FoxtrotGolfLima
    @FoxtrotGolfLima 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Humans when only AI can interact with OS: “Why did we move on so far from Windows 98?”

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's such good news! That means I can still use my Windows 98 machine for DOS gaming, and being able to use the internet to download applications for it. 😅

  • @Life_Is_A...
    @Life_Is_A... 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    - Running windows 98 in VM.
    - Host machine has Windows 7!
    Brother I...

  • @thelovertunisia
    @thelovertunisia 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Win98 was the OS where I learned most of my computing skills.

  • @n1k0n_
    @n1k0n_ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    What is this accent man? Sounds like your Canadian who's been living in the UK for a while.

  • @heitor7410
    @heitor7410 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    was waitting for this one

  • @LunaticEdit
    @LunaticEdit 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Not only is SMTP actively blocked, it's required by law. You have to sign an agreement with your ISP in order to get that port opened up for sending. I think it's part of the CAN-SPAM act.

    • @skycaptain95
      @skycaptain95 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      lol

    • @Deniz3n
      @Deniz3n 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If it's running in a datacentre, it may already just have it unblocked

    • @stevec00ps
      @stevec00ps 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've not seen that on my home ISP in the UK

    • @LunaticEdit
      @LunaticEdit 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stevec00ps Well it's a US law, so not entirely surprised :) I guess I should have been specific, sorry!

    • @stevec00ps
      @stevec00ps 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LunaticEdit Interesting!

  • @mathiasdreke180
    @mathiasdreke180 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In the early 2000s I found thousands of Win98 machines that were directly exposed to the internet without a router or firewall. I was scanning the IP range of my local ISP for port 139 and found a lot of hosts that could be accessed via Windows Explorer (not IE). I could mount remote partitions (incl. drive c with full access), I could even send data to their printers. In a nutshell....it was fun, a lot of fun.
    Then more people used XP and routers. My script-kid-hacking-skills were no longer working.

  • @unicodefox
    @unicodefox 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nested virtualisation I guess requires guest OS cooperation? I can run the latest Debian at reasonable speeds, but I tried old Windows and OPENSTEP and it was absolutely atrocious.
    This was in Vbox in PVE on Skylake , other configurations may vary?

  • @themissinfowar6629
    @themissinfowar6629 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    ReactOS! The heckers may think it’s Windows 2000 but it might not really run the viruses properly 😂

    • @MasterFrag91
      @MasterFrag91 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      To be fair, ReactOS barely runs ANYTHING properly.
      I love the idea of ReactOS, but it's clear that it'll never really go anywhere, it hasn't in the decade and a half I've been watching. you're better off just using any given Linux distro with Wine.

    • @BakaTheSussy
      @BakaTheSussy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MasterFrag91 please dont shit on ReactOS. the work they have done is absolutely insane considering they had to reverse engineer dos, ntoskernel, and then windows apis, which is hard. wine is a much easier approach as it just converts windows api calls to linux/mac/android ones.

    • @MasterFrag91
      @MasterFrag91 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@BakaTheSussy I wouldn't say I'm shitting on it, the work they've done is pretty crazy, but I can both admire the progress they've made, while simultaneously believing it won't go anywhere.
      It's a cool project, but it's effectively been in development for 28 years, and barely has compatibility for even Win9x programs, still has very little hardware compatibility, and even worse driver compatibility.
      As cool as it is, I suspect it will only ever be a niche experimental OS that no-one ever ACTUALLY uses.

  • @Fan-oh2kn
    @Fan-oh2kn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    wow. You uploaded my favorite video series, in one of my favorite classic OS'es, when I'm eating one of my favorite lunches. Thanks.

  • @Chuckles8732
    @Chuckles8732 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was using AOL to go online under Windows 3.11, but I suppose you can't really connect the OS to the internet in quite the same way?

  • @steventinsley2396
    @steventinsley2396 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yeah, cool video. I still remember my family's old Windows 98 PC with a 600 MHz Pentium 3 and 128 MB RAM. It was the first machine I tried out Haskell on.

  • @komradekush3411
    @komradekush3411 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    thank you for going through all the pain of setting this up!

  • @michaelpowers671
    @michaelpowers671 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey bro, good to see this video got some views, I hope more people find your channel. It's pretty cool!

  • @KingNikolai
    @KingNikolai 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would you consider doing one of these tests on Vista? Or would it be a waste of time?

  • @UnNamedGuy0
    @UnNamedGuy0 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    2:35 You just gave me the dumbest idea. Now i want to find out what would happen if i ran a VM inside a VM inside a VM and so on

    • @amyshaw893
      @amyshaw893 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Druaga1 has made a video on that

    • @geckwwo
      @geckwwo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      ... nothing much? just a laggy mess

    • @thecomposerchanginggames5250
      @thecomposerchanginggames5250 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There's some ancient information out on the web about that. People claim that IBM used to have hardware designed to limitlessly and arbitrarily nest virtual machines.

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It's probably going to work, but you'll have massive CPU overhead
      And some VM software (such as Connectix/Microsoft Virtual PC and I think Hyper-V as well) can actually refuse to start if they detect they're running in a VM

    • @ENNEN420
      @ENNEN420 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "Hey everyone, Druaga 1 here."

  • @insainwhiteboy1
    @insainwhiteboy1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love these vids my guy, good work

  • @eightbitguru
    @eightbitguru 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why does your accent swing from the UK to Australia via Canada and North America?

    • @mattlm64
      @mattlm64 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His accent is a mix of all sorts. I can't figure it out.

  • @chickerinoradio6617
    @chickerinoradio6617 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i assume you have an isolated network with all ports open, how would you go about setting something like this up?

  • @jeevannair393
    @jeevannair393 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You should see if the Windows 7 VM got infected by anything that escaped the 98 VM!

  • @Thoscellen
    @Thoscellen 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is not Windows 7 adding a security layer between your Virtual Machine and the Internet as it has an integrated firewall?

  • @finnderp9977
    @finnderp9977 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Dont download Oracle VM from company IP or Oracle starts to threaten you

    • @albi2k88
      @albi2k88 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As i know virtual box is free even for commercial use but extension packs isn't. unless the company even proactive chasing for using virtualbox without expansion packs.

    • @finnderp9977
      @finnderp9977 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@albi2k88 I think some trainee downloaded Oracle VM from Oracle site and Oracle sales dug out company contacts and started to bombard that company is using unlicensed software and how many licenses you gonna buy..

  • @mirthenemrys
    @mirthenemrys 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "...but this operating system is older then I am." yeah just hit me right in the old age why dont ya....

  • @VioletDragonsProjects
    @VioletDragonsProjects 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Windows 9x uses something called LANMAN so by default, Modem NT Operating Systems can't talk to it however you can enabled LANMAN support though.

  • @hughjanus6975
    @hughjanus6975 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been waiting for this since u teased it dawg

  • @TomasRay
    @TomasRay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love these videos, keep it up!

  • @proletariennenaturiste
    @proletariennenaturiste 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you open close program without control alt delete? I used control alt end and it didn't work.

  • @craftingdragon007
    @craftingdragon007 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I love the Serial Expirements Lain refrences: admin@navi, the wired 🤣

  • @TommyLuciano1
    @TommyLuciano1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:30 "My Compute" does not compute!
    Love this kind of content so I will subscribe

  • @deathlock9979
    @deathlock9979 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Were any online viruses ever written for Windows 3.1 or OS Warp 2? I know 3.1 had rudementary internet access with a browser and I don't know much about OS Warp

    • @AndreDeLimburger
      @AndreDeLimburger 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      On Windows 3.1 with dial-up internet, you had a 3rd party TCP/IP stack, such as Trumpet.
      Windows for Workgroups 3.11 supported network cards, but initially no TCP/IP. There was an update installing a TCP/IP stack.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      for Windows 3.1 definitely but OS Warp 2 probably not because it was so obscure or at least not many

  • @jhonbus
    @jhonbus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sweet, I'm going back to Win98! Fingers crossed for Win2k, I absolutely loved that version. Close second favourite to Vista (no I'm not joking!)
    Back in the day it definitely wasn't safe, I remember getting net send spam messages on the Win2k NAS/torrent box I set up in my student house in about 2002 😂

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Huh... I thought it would get hacked directly! :D
    Thanks for the video!

  • @Maebbie
    @Maebbie 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    there are only 11 windows's how do you have the 98th one?

    • @Nebby_Webby
      @Nebby_Webby 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You're joking right

    • @Tiishen
      @Tiishen 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      lul good one

    • @LookAlikeFilm
      @LookAlikeFilm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      inb4 windows 2000

  • @davel4030
    @davel4030 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "this operating system is older than i am so it should be fine" 😂

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now you can play Sim City 2000.

  • @PipsStuff
    @PipsStuff 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You may get better results using 86box or pcem for Windows 9x and dos, as they emulate more era appropriate hardware.

  • @Povilaz
    @Povilaz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    nested virtualization is insane.

    • @whohan779
      @whohan779 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on their hypervisors. You can easily go three layers deep if you play your cards right.
      QEMU or KVM are good starting points whereas the likes of VirtualBox or VirtualPC should only be used in the last step unless you accelerate them heavily.

  • @SoulcatcherLucario
    @SoulcatcherLucario 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i think my favorite part of his videos over time is watching eric's accent transition from a british accent into more of a north american accent overtime (compare his download button videos to now), it's sounding more and more north american
    it's just interesting to hear an accent change between the two really quickly (he can sound british and north american within the same sentence sometimes and that is jarring)

    • @shockafter7
      @shockafter7 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Channel description says he is from Canada.

  • @Xiahung-gm6hy
    @Xiahung-gm6hy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want a part 3, but with Win 7 or win 8, I don't know if you already did it, I'm a new sub haha ^^"

  • @reggiedixon2
    @reggiedixon2 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was there a reason for not simply using an old PC?

  • @EdKolis
    @EdKolis 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nested virtualization for the authentic 100 MHz CPU experience!

  • @dascandy
    @dascandy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @1:17 you could install it into a different folder if you wanted to break 70% of all software out there. At one point I had a system without a C: - so much stuff just broke...

  • @REALps2controller
    @REALps2controller 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel like this is going to be a great video. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @mho...
    @mho... 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    having started my pc saga on win3.11, its always fun to the old ui again ;)
    but lets be honest here.... what kind of bob would still write/keep-online tools to infect 25+ year old operating systems?!

  • @cloudy_shane
    @cloudy_shane 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uh, sooo, if my Windows 9x and XP machines are behind a router/firewall and I have a gray IP, they won't get infected?

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, a modern residential router will block all these requests and you won't get infected from the Internet in this way. If other systems on your home network are malicious they could still get in. And of course if you use programs which access the network you could be opening a threat vector.

    • @cloudy_shane
      @cloudy_shane 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eDoc2020 thank you for your reply!

  • @laszloposzmik5829
    @laszloposzmik5829 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont let the 'Antikythera mechanism' exposed to the internet without Microsoft Security Essentials!

  • @appelveg
    @appelveg 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I've got a feeling your voice sounds like it's either heavy AI denoised or you are using a voice changer trained to immitate your own voice.

    • @itsanarse
      @itsanarse 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      My thoughts were hes a Brit who's moved to the US

  • @UCzEu378Iu4lhZI7tz76
    @UCzEu378Iu4lhZI7tz76 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:57 ngl It's kinda crazy to see Censys scanning that computer with not even 15 minutes of uptime

  • @Name_cannot_be_blank
    @Name_cannot_be_blank 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    later in the video, its sounds like this adobe voice enhance...
    did you use anything like that?
    I've definetly also spotted it on another channel, i just dont know why you'd use it.
    Its made to remove background noise AFAIK, but it definetly messes up the voice itself wayy too much...

  • @NoPlaceForTheDead
    @NoPlaceForTheDead 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I miss that load bar.

  • @thetree1994
    @thetree1994 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nested simulation hypothesis be like

  • @Saph27
    @Saph27 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You need to port forward past your NAT. Your router is blocking any external connections to your internal IP. Unless you visit a bad site or initiate a bad connection from your host nothing is going to happen unless you are already comprised on your network. Having an old operating system is only dangerous if you actually use it.

  • @TechnicalIssuesOfficial
    @TechnicalIssuesOfficial 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You could run google on Windows 1.0 I swear to god

    • @EricParker
      @EricParker  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Might actually be a video idea, but I think it's probablyg onna be 3.1.

    • @TechnicalIssuesOfficial
      @TechnicalIssuesOfficial 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EricParker still googles keeping alive stuff older than their backrub company

    • @icantcomeupwithnames469
      @icantcomeupwithnames469 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Google works pretty well even in a pure terminal browser, eg w3m, links

    • @WhileTrueCode
      @WhileTrueCode 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EricParker Netscape Navigator ftw

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Windows 1.0 was so bad you were better off using dos

  • @tellyjoossens4186
    @tellyjoossens4186 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun project to try myself, since I have several vintage pc's. Couldn't replicate what you were seeing. My network is behind a load balancing router with 2 different isp connections. Tried this with windows xp. Again nothing happens. Only when browsing you see such connections but those seem to be ad-server connections, which are already blocked by the ad blocker installed on my router (dns blocking). I guess if you connect such machines directly to the internet, it would be much more dangerous.

  • @qwertyui2827
    @qwertyui2827 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you try Windows 3.11 with Winsock and CIFS file sharing ?

  • @vk3fbab
    @vk3fbab 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wind 3.11 and NT3.51 and NT4 all interesting. In the early 2000s running WinNT 4 took mere minutes to get hacked.

  • @gatodecarro
    @gatodecarro 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this is super scary lolol
    so this happens on only older versions or any version if the firewall is off? also isnt win 7 also vulnerable? its out of service for so long now

    • @EricParker
      @EricParker  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had this Windows 7 because I was trying to see if it would work on 7. It doesn't seem to (a few days with nothing). Exposed to the internet with no firewall, it seems to have the most trouble on XP.
      It requires that the OS have some vulnerability, and that malware is actively out their trying to exploit it. Plenty of XP worms still going around, 98 and earlier don't have a lot of open ports.

    • @yotoprules9361
      @yotoprules9361 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@EricParker is this a patched win7 or RTM?

  • @PeterVC
    @PeterVC 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    it's clear that you have never used Windows 98 before. For SMB port to be open, you have to actually enable File sharing, it's not on by default.
    Or open Remote desktop access, then you'll see some serious stuff ;p
    If you did those things, I'm guessing the system would get compromised much quicker.

    • @myolgiden
      @myolgiden 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As he said,
      98 is older than him :)

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And as he said, he later went in and enabled file sharing. Unless I misunderstood him.

  • @Gamer_fox6091
    @Gamer_fox6091 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why you are using nested virtualization

  • @AndreDeLimburger
    @AndreDeLimburger 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2000 is close enough to XP (NT 5.0 vs NT 5.1) that I suspect, given XP caught malware, 2000 will too. But I wonder about older NT versions.

  • @gr33nDestiny
    @gr33nDestiny 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is a big difference in security between win98 and win98se. Pre SE it was vulnerable to the backoraface attack which I used to have so much fun with because it was a backdoor RDP and was so much fun to mess with people. I don’t know if the conspiracy that it was NSA is true but I can confirm it was the best hack I ever seen in my life, by far.

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder what would happen if you did this to RiSC OS? It must have legendary security through obscurity!

  • @Win_7
    @Win_7 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if im right then windows 7 was directly connected to the internet not behind any router right? and vbox was bridgin windows7's internet to the 98 vm meaning it effectively becomes a router of sorts and windows 7 does have a firewall so my theory is that it blocked all the incoming connections to any port FOR the 98 vm so nothing was able to get in
    you should also test vista

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He was using VirtualBox bridged networking. This picks up packets before they even have a chance to get touched by Windows 7's firewall.

  • @chachachi-hh1ks
    @chachachi-hh1ks 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I was Microsoft, I would secretely scan the Internet for versions of Windows too unpopular and obsure to attract real hackers (or too sparce for speading a net worm). And then I would remotely exploit their vulnerabilities in order to freeze/reboot them. Thus anybody who wanted to achieve "security by obsurity" by using ancient Windows would experience nearly constant crashes and reboots the second they connect to the Internet

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You mean, like any off-the-shelf laptop with Windows 11?

  • @HSRA71-rn6lj
    @HSRA71-rn6lj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What browser works with 98?

  • @o0NaGaZaKi0o
    @o0NaGaZaKi0o 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2000 was getting infected extremely rapidly when exposed to the Internet some years ago. Problem got solved by home routers blocking inbound connections.

  • @opelfahrer91
    @opelfahrer91 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Running a virtual machine with such an outdated VirtualBox version is a huge risk, because it will probably carry some nasty vulnerabilities which could enable attackers to breakout of the virtualized environment. This can lead to a situation where they will be able to aceess or attack your host machine. You were lucky...

  • @Vlad-1986
    @Vlad-1986 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Man, you should had used PCem or 86Box. You put yourself trough a lot of pain trying to use VMWare (would had been the equally bad with VirtualBox).
    If curious, it was so slow because you where running in VGA mode with 16 colours, and VMWare sucks at translating that to whatever you use on your computer.
    Actually, a pointer, VMware just sucks in general, specially if you want to test older software :P

  • @1993MAZDAMIATA
    @1993MAZDAMIATA 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude I love these videos haha.

  • @VRixxo123
    @VRixxo123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My brother Windows 7 in 2024 is wild

    • @OofTheEpik
      @OofTheEpik 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is probably using Mac/Linux. Also theres an explanation at 0:25

  • @nsns7993
    @nsns7993 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Your provider is probably blocking 445 as well

  • @Ocelot35
    @Ocelot35 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would prefer to see you using the original hardware. I believe in you.

  • @JazukaiX
    @JazukaiX 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Switching to MS-DOS for maximum obscurity

  • @junizeebin
    @junizeebin 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My genuine response to the title of the video : it gets traumatized

  • @gjkrisa
    @gjkrisa 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this reminds me of a time i was re installing windows now sure if it was 98 or xp and was able to get norton on there pretty quick and before the install finished norton had detected the iloveyou virus so i then had to stop again and re install windows. must of been 98 from a compaq restore partition. must of installed norton during one of the many reboots.