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00:00 - Intro
What's up, you guys? In today's video, I will discuss why Toyota has gone too far with its inventory and pricing situation.
00:17 - Despite High Prices, The Land Cruiser is Still Priced High
01:13 - Real Dealership Prices
03:03 - It Gets Even Worse
04:00 - Land Cruiser Demand
05:03 - 4Runner Prices Aren't Looking Good
08:07 - Closing
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Don't buy. Stop buying. Problem solved.😃
Good advice but what if we need to buy a new vehicle now because our old vehicle broke down? I'm in that situation now in Ft Worth Texas and looking for a new 2024 Toyota Corolla LE sedan. All the Toyota DFW dealerships are selling new Corollas for 3-4k over MSRP and refusing to bring the price down. Corollas are a low supply high demand vehicle so dealerships easily sell them for over MSRP. They have no need to discount a Corolla for me, should I just buy a Mazda 3 or Civic instead? I can buy both the 3 or the Civic for under MSRP
@@sachinnair91then you buy the cheaper vehicles bud
@@sachinnair91 then you buy it...but there is a lot of people that wanna buy whatever is newest no matter what it cost
Go to where they aren’t charging extra
Been doing that for... my whole life. Just waiting for you guys to join me.
Over msrp = not getting my business. I hate these greedy dealerships
these manufacturers can sell directly to consumers instead of this dealerships bs
@@jameng1315 No, they are not allowed to by law.
You are literally over paying for everything else.
@@jorgezepeda2461 so you're ok with getting ripped off ?
For every one of you there are others who will pay a markup
Only one to blame is the American consumer that flocks to these cars regardless of price.
Exactly!
people are horrible with money... oh I only gotta pay $800 a month for the next 10 years... deal! 🤪
Yup. I remember in the 80s EVERYBODY had to have a Porsche, then the Jeep Cherokee, then..............
It's all the overlanding dip $#*%$.
Debt binges usually end with a bang... This bubble is gonna be wild when it pops
80K for a 4-banger hybrid turbo? NO THANKS 🖕
I couldn’t believe it was a 4 cylinder. This will not age well.
Yeah, I think I’ll just keep my 6-banger ‘21 4Runner 4ever.
@@dylantech i would of i was u.. I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD off-road manual & keeping mine as long as i can
Now that the engines are smaller, have turbo (aren't naturally aspirated), recalls and issues are popping up. They can keep their new Landcruisers. Reliability is not the same.
100%. The new (made in Mexico) Tacomas and Tundras are hot garbage in build quality, and I’ve started to hear of build quality issues with the new GX. All this on top of the well-documented engine issues. Sad how far Toyota has fallen.
@benjaminv.3172 The GX is legendary, and they just messed that up too
@@benjaminv.3172 Tundra's are made in Texas
@@mann8098 Yep, cheap plastics with the interior, hood rattle, more body roll, louder cabin noise. TH-camr Josh’s Cars of Japan did a great review of the GX550 and how far the quality has fallen compared to Lexus of the past. Keeping my decade-old GX460 as long as possible.
My parents volvo xc90 has a four Banger with a turbo and supercharger and they've already replaced the engine at 60k. Along with a bunch of electronics .
Anybody who would pay over sticker for a Toyota, given the engine problems they're having with the new tundras, is out of their mind.
With or without engine problem, NOBODY unless you have deep pockets, should buy ANY car ABOVE MSRP. And banks shoudnt finance anything above msrp!
Who says I’m buying a Tundra. This is illegal practice in Canada, why can’t the good old USA do the same? Go to your State senate.
@@markkennedy5335I watch a guy in Canada and he shows that every car is over msrp?
Agree re paying above MSRP. The Tundra is a manufacturing problem not an engineering problem. The Land Cruiser and T4R are made in Japan. Seems to make a difference.
@@judahnanas9772Banks always will though. Because extended service contracts, GAP policies and hard adds are BIG money makers.
The purpose of a dealership is to grift as much money out of you as possible. I’d call them thieves, but when you walk in voluntarily, you get screwed by choice.
Yes. Vulture middle men inserted between us and the manufacturer. Like the Realtor model.
So how else would I buy a new vehicle?
Dealerships are a necessity of the system due to regulation prohibiting automakers from selling directly to buyers. It is a “consumer protection” regulation. Now you know who to blame for this.
Wrong deslers compete with other dealers and that help push the price down . Go get a Tesla that has worked so well for the consumer 🤣🤣🤣
That's capitalism baby!
Greed greed greed...don't buy into it. It's unreal what goes on in the U.S. You don't need a Toyota that bad...
Is it though? Do you understand how the global markets, central banking system works? Communists use this catch all word to hide the fact that they know NOTHING about economics, and more than likely support the very tyrants who creates and perpetuates it all.
Lmao debatable. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard the phrase I should’ve bought the Toyota from my father’s customers(he was a lifelong mechanic before retiring) I’d have a second small fortune.
@@Bonanzaking That's something you don't hear that often now.
@@wisenber I’ve still heard it….mainly from people who buy KIA’s.
@@Bonanzaking That would be something considering Kia's 7/100k warranty.
I don't blame Toyota or any of these greedy dealerships. I blame the clowns throwing their money at them.
Exactly.
No one makes the consumer buy these vehicle at these prices.
This. If I was a dealer I would do the same. Why wouldn't I sell at a higher price when clowns pay these prices
it's all on the dealers. Toyota can't do anything by law. consumers could easily fix this but they are either greedy or cowards.
No, I blame the greedy dealerships.
@@AA-vr8ez u know u can get the car at msrp if u order it and can wait for it
Huge dealer markups, engine recalls, cheating on safety tests, sleazy dealers--such a tempting offer!
Most dealers arent grtting thr mark ups few engine recalls and the saftey cheat never affected the us
Dealers are the domestic terrorists of everyone's wallet😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t buy them make them keep their cars longer. The consumer has the power.
2021 Tacoma owner here. I prefer buying new and by the looks of it I won't be buying another Toyota
They and the new Tundra are butt ugly.
I was planning to buy a landcruiser this year but overpricing and bad engine quality made me change my desire on buying any new car at these times . Let those overpriced cars rot in their lots.
I wouldn't buy any Toyota anymore.
They went from the best, most reliable engine/transmission combos in History, to Complete Garbage with Cars that won't last the length of the payments, over night.
I'd rather have an early 2000s Camry or Avalon than a new Toyota Truck. Their 25yr old used cars will out last their brand new 2025 trucks sitting on their lots today.
Pretty much. We can thank the EPA and the current administration for the sudden changes. Someone needs to stand up to the government.
Toyota has lost their way. They aren’t offering any US customer what we want. Hybrids have a place, but nobody wants a turbo 4 cylinder over a V6. No buyer asked for that.
But we all saw it coming unfortunately
Do they even have a choice with CAFE standards.
@@beater6967 Yeah they do given real world mpg on an over worked 4cyl turbo will probably be about be equal to an appropriately sized v6. Turbos don’t save gas if you have to stay on them all the time. 100% same deal with the v6 in the heavier 5th gen. It gets about the same mpg as the v8 does in the 4th gen.
We can blame them for the standards but their work around a have been less than ideal for consumers.
It a casual…
All these trucks should be V8 and ur talking about v6s
They already got ur mind u casual
@@Thesinfultruth I meant V6 in the Tacoma and 4Runner. I wish they’d make a V8 4Runner again. There never was a V8 Tacoma. The Tundra needs the V8 and not the V6 that grenades itself.
Well, I'm getting a Mazda.
Good choice
That's more fun and just as reliable as a Toyota.
4 years on and I’m still thrilled to get behind the wheel of my MX5!
Great choice. One of my friends is in the process of doing just that.
My wife and I bought a used cx 5 with 80k on it for our nasty dog car ( we have coon hounds that shed alot) . That thing has 140k on it now and the only maintenance has been gas oil rubber and fluids . It's AWD system is phenomenal.
one sold today on cars and bids for less than sticker...the demand isn't really there
Good.
Good we should keep it that way
The new Land Cruiser is a Land Loser
My local dealer is doing the same yet they have 107 Tundras and 83 Tacomas sitting on the lot. Good stuff.
Give em another month or two. Things will change...
Any dealer that would take the window sticker off is not going to get any of my money.
Federal law requires that window sticker on all new cars so…
@@JeepCherokeeful Yet most dealers don't have the sticker on. Just check pictures on any inventory...you can ask for it but most people dont.
@@johnathoncastroit’s illegal in America
@SLHJR0390 It may be illegal but I see it all the time in my area. Even on the website they don't show the sticker
@@johnathoncastro report them. Remind the dealer. That’s bs
Failed to say the engine choices in these new Toyotas all SUCK
Have you driven one to have this kind of statement? We all want to know.
They actually don't. I test drove the Land Cruiser and loved it. The responsiveness from the turbo and the torque are similar to my wife's 23 Highlander. Same same, but different. However, they wanted $65k for a base 1958, lol. I bought a 24 Tundra 1794 4x4 out the door at that price instead.
@@joedaniel3894
It would have been nice for the amount of money these beautiful cars are to put a turbo V8 in them.
Yes
Why are they selling them? Mark-ups is due to demand
That Land Cruiser looks like this 🚙 plain “vehicle” emoji. 😂😂
"The Monroney sticker is required to be affixed to the side window or windshield by the manufacturers before shipment of new vehicles to the dealer for sale in the United States and it can only be removed by the consumer (Chapter 28, Sections 1231-1233, Title 15 of the United States Code)." The fine for the dealer taking it off is $1,000.
Its amended that it only has to be on displah.
So they add an adjustment fee of $5000
the fine is $10,000 per car the window sticker must be on the window of the car under federal law
and? there's no law that says they have to post the window sticker on an internet website.
@@connor_flanigan you are absolutely correct but it does give you an insight to the tricky nature of the dealer. That rare brand-new automobile you want is being built at a rate of one every 37 seconds. Best wishes
the 4 cylinder turbo is a deal killer for me.
Yup. That engine belongs in a small sedan.
The most I've paid for a new Toyota is $25K. I asked for pricing for a new Camry and they've sent me offers every month for a year and call me regularly. I'm waiting for an offer under $30K. I've always been a cash buyer at my local dealership so they know that I can just write a check to buy a car. I have 2 old Camrys that run just fine and I'll just keep driving them for now.
You aren’t the customer they want. They want the loan process in-house to make up for the flooring expenses.
@@BRLaue They probably expect the cash customer to buy much more expensive cars too.
@@movdqa I sometimes pay cash but don’t disclose that until I’ve seen the deal. Same with the trade-in
@@BRLaue That's true. They will milk more money out someone who takes a loan out. But if they can still make a quick sale, possibly with add-ons (Warranty, tint, etc.). Why not?
@@tonycj7860 Agreed, that’s why I decide when I see the final deal whether I pay cash, take a loan, work a trade-in into the deal or walk. The last couple of years it has been mostly walk.
Anyone who pays a markup deserves to get screwed. Just because Toyota puts a sticker on the window doesn't mean you have to pay it. I bought a new Toyota a few months ago. It had a sticker with $2600 in add-ons and a $2500 price markup. I told the salesman I wasn't paying it, nor MSRP, and call me if they wanted to deal, and then I left. He called 30 minutes later, and I drove away paying under MSRP.
Dealerships are out of their minds. Proper title
I come to watch the super animated hand movements
I WONDERED what was disturbing me !!! now i cant watch anymore.
I like it 😅
My wife was born/raised in the Bronx. Her whole family talks with their hands. They also speak loudly and have a funny accent, being from Alabama it was like learning to speak another language. I never get bored watching and listening to. Another thing I realize is they communicate and listen to each other. New Yorkers are good people until they start talking politics!
Channeling their inner “Scotty Kilmer” (the king of talking with his hands)
This makes 0 sense to me. If they are going to charge Lexus GX prices you may as well go and buy a Lexus GX.
The dealer near me is selling GXs left and right at MSRP, while the Land Crusiers are just sitting around at the Toyota dealer down the street.
Nailed it
The gx is 85k
@@leefritchman9643 used ones are less
@@Betamax84 if u wanna compare apples to apples then you compare new to new
People are dumb enough to not know they are both Toyotas. Lexus is the biggest psychological scam Toyota successfully deployed over the American consumer.
Toyota has hubris, and given the transmission problems of the new Tacomas and the engine problems of the Tundra, most of us will go elsewhere when we find out the above MSRP at the Toyota dealers. Who is in charge of customer strategy at TMCC?
Dealers are as bad as Hamas!😂😂😂😂
Not someone who has friends and family there I see.
We the consumers have a say in this market with our wallets, hold firm…
Prices are way up and quality seems to be down with the Tundra motor failures. Not a good combination.
I was in the market for a new one, but stopped. I had a dealer tell me I needed to buy now 4 months ago because prices were going up. I told her "that's the wrong way, I'll talk you when you guys are hurting." In this economy, These dealers not willing to offer a discount are out of their minds. Just wait 6 months, the country is heading for a major fall.
80k for a 4 cylinder car.....yikes
All my local toyta dealers are charging at least 4k over the MSRP, and their sales are low . They are calling all customers in the base to buy a new vehicle
It’s easy to cry about a high price, but for some reason no one wants to stop buying at this price ))
I'm not even talking about those who take out loans to buy a car that is beyond their financial capabilities.
Just find the VOLUME dealer closest to you. There is always a volume dealer in every market who doesn’t charge mark ups. Ours in nashville is Beaman Toyota. You may have to get on a wait list for an allocation but they won’t charge a mark up.
To get around "market adjustment" they are doing things like adding $1000 windshield protection, $1500 Lojack, $1500 paint protection, and $3000 extended warranty.
I got charged $700 for nitrofilled tires once. Gtfo
beginning of the year , i tried to buy a prius. As I was getting ready to leave n the 2 hour trip to pick up the car. i called to put a $500 dollar deposit on an agreed on price. The sales guy told me he couldn't take a deposit because the car was going to be up for auction and the only way they would sell the car was with a $8k markup
Toyota has been screwing customers so badly, they've managed to screw themselves. Used to be a Toyota fan; no more.
I've heard this so much on posts. Heard many Yota fans even switching to other brands. The new CEO is very toxic to Toyota's reputation.
Bought a 2024 Camry a few months ago below msrp. Not all dealerships have markups, you just might have to go outside your town to find a deal.
That’s because the demand for sedans is low.
The problem isn’t the manufacturers or the dealerships. This is a US Federal Reserve monetary policy problem.
The Fed has driven the value of the dollar so far into the ground, a car, a house, and raising a family is near impossible for someone who isn’t making six figures and got a head start making all the right decisions 10-15 years ago.
Since most people’s income isn’t going up 20% per year like Toyota’s MSRPs, they will price themselves out of their market. Stop buying!
BTW, this happened with previous gen Land Cruiser and this new one WAS SUPPOSED to be much cheaper to get customers back. But with dealer Mark ups and these high option packages, the “lower” price point seems to be fake.
Fellas! Stop being a Toyota simp!
On the Toyota USA website ALL land cruisers in the north east are 10k listed above MSRP.
Here in west Houston dealerships Lexus are charging close to 5 thousand on new NXs models. I’m just going to wait a little longer.
Charging even more in DFW. I should come down to Houston. New Corollas are definitely cheaper in Houston than DFW!
Customers were begging Toyota to keep that V8 even before the problems with the new engines. So Toyota took a page from the 'Don't give your customers what they want" and ditched their legendary powertrain, what made the Land Cruiser and other trucks so reliable and powerful. I don't know who advises them but they should start listening to the people who buy their cars...or did.
Land Cruiser 2025: 2.4L 4 Cylinder Hybrid
Someone really buying it?
This will be the easiest car buying process for me. If 6th gen 4Runner is insanely priced, I’ll buy something else.
It will be since its based of the same TNGA body on frame as the Tacoma. So expect the same price hikes as the 2024 taco except more. 60K for base SR5's if your lucky. TRD pro's will probably start at 70K plus. They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco. Its going to have insane pricing. Just like all their new TNGA body on frames are. They did it with the Tundra, then with the taco, the LC and next the 4 runner.
Lol. You coulsnt be more wring. 4runners will be under land cruiser pricing. NOT ABOVE. LOL where do you idiots come up with this shit @@HiPlains1
@islandhopper100 Read again what I said carefully "They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco." Not the best sentence structure but I did say they won't build the same platform truck for less money then the Taco which is made in Mexico. And yes I know they made the 4 runner along with the GX, landcrusier etc.. As they have done for decades. See what you did? You took the first part "they are not going to build this in Japan" and responded without reading the rest. If you were alert enough you would have seen my point that making TNGA platform trucks in Japan cost allot more then using slave labor in Mexico. No way a Japanese made truck is going to cost less then a Mexican made body on frame. I'm not fact checked because I already know these will come from the Tahara plant along with just about everybody else that knows anything about toyota.
They tried charging my mom $700 just for black Toyota badges 😭
I’ve never understood people blaming Toyota or the car dealerships for markups. If buyers didn’t pay the markups then there would be no markups. At the end of the day a car company is a business and they here to make money, and if they can make that extra money from consumers, they will. If we as customers stopped paying the markups then there will be no markups
For a 4 cylinder, they can keep them all.
Excellent info. Thank you!!
Shame on Toyota 😡
You can keep it ! Probably will be a nightmare in warrenty claims.
LOL.....I was confused for a while watching the video. I kept thinking you were saying 'Toyota Foreigner'....and I'm going, is that a new model?
Toyota and Honda have some of the lowest inventories out there. There is no excuse anymore. Why are other manufactures able to produce more cars? I would pass on both and get a Mazda....this from a Honda/Toyota fanboy. Vote with your $.
Toyota is purposely keeping inventory down. That's why Corollas are in such low supply, lower supply of Corollas than Civics
Thanks for sharing 👍 what was the name of your video you had a guest that did get around and Turo ?
They're called stealerships for a reason.
The dealer markup in the Bay Area is like $10-15k. Dealership in Colorado doesn’t charge mark up. I could fly out there and enjoy a road trip home and save money.
Both the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser are striking in appearance.
BUT, while a lot of casual consumers may buy both; they are, in essence, enthusiast vehicles.
That being the case, enthusiasts are showing resistance to the new turbo or hybrid drive trains. They might be fine enough for the soccer moms, but do they have the long-term reliability that hard-core Toyota buyers value?
It's still early, but initial impressions of the Tundra have been less than spectacular.
It's quite possible Toyota has shot themselves in the foot. 😢
Buy used, buying new is unrealistic for most people at current new prices.
I was on waiting list for Land Cruiser, got offered one, and finally took for a test drive. After taking a look at the small back space AND seeing a $5000+k markup,
I dropped the idea of buying. Math just didn’t make sense. It is a wonderful vehicle, but way overpriced. Now looking seriously at RAV4. Can get slightly below MRSP with no markup. Mudbuster will have to wait.
Youd be a fool to buy a landcruiser now . The dealers are screwing people
Shop around since it's easy to do so online. The dealer in my town charges MSRP + adjusted market value. Forty miles away the dealer sells at MSRP and below on some vehicles. The owner does not allow markups. I went through this with VW years ago when I purchased a new Beatle convertible when they first came out at a dealer 300 miles away. Sure it took me almost the entire day to drive up with a friend of mine and back but I saved the $5000 adjusted price that the dealers in MD DC and VA were asking.
The Toyota dealer in my area has 2 of the first edition Land Cruisers going for 91k. Outrageous.
In N. California, local dealer shows "dealer adjustment" of $4995 right on the website for Land Cruiser. Some sort of "adjustment" is added to nearly all models, especially hybrids. Sienna is $2995. Cross hybrid is $1995. Can't tell about Camrys. One in transit, others "in production." Supply is limited across the board. No one explains that.
Toyota keeps charging more and more for an inferior product. Their board is pushing them in the wrong direction instead of just letting Toyota do what it does best. For example, we should have never gotten this Land Cruiser in the U.S. It’s a shame that they went this direction instead of bringing out a real contender to the Jeep and Bronco.
That’s why I’m considering Hyundai. Sure camriesbare affordable but hard to get features that you want like HUD and 360 cam and they’re expensive without any of these features. At least Hyundai has these features as standard
Toyota needs to go direct to consumer, as all manufactures need to offer now.
Once it starts going higher than $70,000+ you’re better off getting a Lexus GX550, or for this price range, go even further and get the previous Gen 200-series Land Cruiser (J200) that was discontinued in 2021. It has the same 5.7 liter V8 engine as the previous gen Tundra and Sequoia which were proven to be reliable, and were sold for 13 years from 2008 to 2021. You could even find one from 2008 in the $20,000s, or for around the $70,000 that this new Land Cruiser (J250) is selling for, get a much newer J200 LC from 2016 and up (after its facelift and upgrades in 2016) and get a much better vehicle with a proven reliable power train for 13 years.
To go even further, you could also get a Lexus GX460 (a Land Cruiser Prado) for around the same price or less, but still has a 4.6 liter V8 in it that’s been proven to be reliable for 14 years (2009-2023), and probably find newer ones in the $50,000-$60,000 range.
As a side note, it’s important to realize this isn’t really a full-size Land Cruiser, but an LC Prado, which is what it actually is even though it’s not in the name. Last full size Land Cruiser was the previously mentioned J200 in the US, which stopped being sold in 2021. They did release the 300-series Land Cruiser (J300) overseas in the Middle East, Australia, Europe, Philippines, and other parts of the world but we did not get it in the US (possibly due to slow sales). The closest thing we got to the J300 in the US was the Lexus LX600 and currently it shares the same twin-turbo V6 engine as the current 3rd gen Tundras and Sequoias. I got to ride in an LC200 and LC300 on the sand dunes in the desert in Qatar on my way home from Asia and I absolutely loved them. It’s a sad thing we didn’t get a J300 in the US in Toyota form, but at least we got the LX600 which is the same platform. Anyways, don’t be fooled by this new Land Cruiser. Overseas where they sell the J300, this new J250 is being offered and sold as a Land Cruiser Prado (basically a smaller LC for city driving but still off-road capable and rugged), but here in the US since we don’t have the full size LC300, they’re just calling this new one a “Land Cruiser”, which in my opinion is misleading and easy to see considering the Lexus GX’s have always been modeled after the Prado, and one might think this new J250 is going to be more “affordable” compared to the previous J200 and new J300 overseas, when in reality both the LC250 and GX550 are just Prado’s without actually having it in the name.
In my opinion, save your money and don’t buy these newer vehicles. Guarantee you there will be price clashes with the new 4Runner, Tacoma, and this new LC250 in the lineup. Dealerships are too greedy and want too much money for them, as seen with even the outgoing generations of 4Runners and Tacomas. $50k-$60k is unreasonable for a midsize truck or SUV, and even more for the TRD versions. They need to pull their heads out of the sand and see reality. If people didn’t support their shenanigans by buying these vehicles at their prices with the absurd markups and add-ons, we’d actually have a chance against dealerships and manufacturers. Or better yet, but a more affordable used vehicle of one of the previous generations and save your money for something else or a rainy day. No need to buy these new vehicles right away. Let Toyota work out the bugs and kinks and see if any discounts and incentives come along once dealers realize nobody wants to pay their absurd prices.
This is the most lucid comment of this video so far! Thank you, brutha!
I don't like any car enough to pay dealer markup or dumb fees.
A dealership tried sell me a first edition for $97,000.00. I told them to FK OFF.
Well done
Just wait until you get the quotes for a Land Rover, Mercedes (any SUV) and the new VW Touareg…not sure what alternative you expect to get for cheap.
Basically sheep mentality, it’s cool now to hate on Toyota whereas a rational person knows that the car market in general is currently overpriced.
I work for a company who makes the gas struts that go on hoods and hatch doors. We are not working good at all!! ALL!!! OT has been cut since May. We have all the big companies. FORD,GM Chrysler, Tesla, Toyota, Honda
Found a used Land Cruiser FE that’s being sold at a non-Toyota dealership for nearly 90k, while brand new ones hover around the high 70’s. It’s ridiculous.
Part of the problem is that the last several years that Land Cruisers were available here in the USA they sold for $80,000-$90,000+ (LC's were sold loaded so this price variance is based on year not model level). So people that previously couldn't afford one are now excited to be able to get one for $55,000 - $77,000, depending on model because the price is a "bargain" compared to years past.
So many people are asking who would pay that much for a Toyota! I bought my 2013 LC in December of 2014. It was used with 6,000 miles, and I paid $62,000 (10 years ago!). I still have that LC and could sell it today for $35k+. This is why people by Land Cruisers. Legendary off-road capability and huge retention of value.
my local dealer has 9,500+ in "dealer add-ons", and they are sold even before they get to the dealer...
even on 2024 4 runners...
If they’re not blatantly adding dealer mark-ups (and they are) they’re adding all the junk options that nobody wants. $70 for some 3ft USB cables is one of strangest. Who doesn’t have a bunch of extra USB cables laying around the house?
A dealership near me is adding on key fob insurance for $1,495 😂. I’ve never lost a car key in my life. Even if you did, most cars come with a spare anyways.
My local Toyota dealer does this crap, too. They're selling the new Camry for $10k over MSRP.
Southeast Toyota Distributors (SET) is the guilty party here. A lot of areas are actually showing discounts on some vehicles. If you're in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina - you're going to be screwed for a while.
Let that turbo sit on the lot 🙄. Nobody is rushing to buy them
If a dealer isn’t transparent with their price, then I’m not giving them my money.
MSRP sticker must be displayed on every new car.
I would understand if they were $55k+ with a super reliable v8 engine that would last over 300k miles. These land cruisers have a 4 cylinder turbo engine that will be over stressed and probably not last 150k miles. No way in hell I'm ever buying one.
Fook Toyota not buying that brand again wanted to charge me $77k for a sienna 🤦♂️
Toyota is out of Their Mind Aubrey Janik - and the Tacoma and Tundra ECT people bought for quality and now the reliability is gone ! People didn't buy Toyota's for looks being fast more comfortable - they bought them because they last ! They lost their customer !
They’re charging an astronomical price tag for new land cruisers in central California. A sales manager at Toyota said they sold 1st edition with a $17k mark up! I ended up buying the 2024 4Runner instead just because I was able to get it a little bit lower than MSRP. They were more transparent about the price of the 4Runner and the sticker price.
In my area the dealership are charging 59,000 for a used 2023 trd pro and 65,000 plus for a 2024 trd off-road I force one!
Shits out of control
New cars have always been a lot, why anyone under 35 is looking at new is beyond me lol. Funny how those that have just started in life feel they deserve a NEW car. Kids are poor these days cause they literally drive what I a man in my 50s worked my entire life for and could afford. I think new cars are priced very well
$60-$70k for a suv with cloth seats is crazy!
Have they gotten their unreliable twin turbo junk fixed yet?
This is the last video I'm watching on Toyota for a while. I'm getting new shocks tomorrow and taking my tundra to 350,000 miles.
I just saw an facebook ad of a dealer asking $120K for that same model Land Cruiser! I am in PR!
At these prices, is it worth it to rebuild an old FJ45?
The first Land Cruiser you showed has the VIN listed, so you can look up the window sticker.
They think their chit don’t stink…
Gosh that’s not even bad a local dealership Gresham Toyota in Oregon is literally selling a “used” Land Cruiser for 97k and the cheaper edition one for 74k “used” you should check that dealership out
2015 4runner owner here, 200k+ miles. Unfortunately when it comes time to replace I don't see myself getting the 6th gen and its lawnmower engine. I may look for a used LX570 or Land Cruiser V8 instead
A hybrid drive in a land cruiser is not practical