I was wondering why my horse was developing a toe callus... makes sense now, since my farrier has taken to chopping the toe off with a huge hoof scissor... I'm educating myself so I can trim my horse myself in the future, thak you for these very informative videos.
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My horse definitely has toe calluses on both fronts. So if I convince my trimmer to allow his toes to grow and not trim / rasp them back, will the calluses naturally wear down and go away without rasping them? Also, if a horse truly has thin soles, will a callus (or calluses) form to protect the whole sole? (versus just the toe … which has to actually be uncomfortable since the tip of P3 is directly behind that toe callus - right?) I love your videos and I really wish you had a website to correspond to since I don’t do Facebook .
Thanks for your kind words! Yes the calluses will naturally wear down once the hoof wall comes into play properly and the horse's hoof is balanced naturally and correctly. If a horse has truly thin soles then a ridge of callus won't be produced because of the thin sole, it will be produced in areas of wear because of lack of wall. With a thin soled horse, you need to protect with boots and change the diet and the management as fast as you can 👍 (and the trimming of course). New website will be on its way! 🙏
VERY useful and clear exposition, thank you Lindsey. One question, however. If, as you say at the end of the lesson, the heels are brought down to HSP, and the rest of the sole, won't just leaving the callous mean the hoof is higher at the front? And if so, does that matter, will movement wear it down a bit to fit the newly balanced sole, etc etc. Also, I recall Gary mentioned in passing in one of the Lives that you only trim to the 'ten past two' point if you want the toe wall to grow down? Thanks to Lindsey or anyone who can help me here! (Susan Garvin)😁
Hi Susan, so if there is not toe wall in play when you go to balance forward along the volar plane after balancing the heels to the HSP, then you have to leave the callous alone because it is the only support/protection that the foot has at the front of the foot, and you don't have a clear reference point to balance, so you risk over-thinning the sole. You have to wait until the toe comes back into play again, then you can start to balance forward correctly and by then you will find that the callous starts to reduce as it is needed less and less. Hope that helps :)
@@lindsaysetchell Many thanks Lindsey, this confirms what I had worked out from looking at the vids and listening to the Lives, so I am happy to have the 👍! It seems to be taking ages for the toe wall to grow down but I am sticking to the plan. 😬
Do you have a video on how much to to keep and how much to leave for the toe? Barefoot seems to drill very much that the toe should be short and the horse should be on it's sole
No bar material is hoof wall. Excess bar material will blend into sole material and if left can form an unnatural 'mon-bar' around the apex of the frog - which needs to be removed!
the wall does not support the horse. its the sole. why can feral horses in usa walk without problem althought they make a very pronounced mustang roll/Bevel
The sole is not a structure for support pillars, the horn is not as complex as the horn in the hoof wall. The feral horses in the great basin are not removing their toe wall pillars ever.
I was wondering why my horse was developing a toe callus... makes sense now, since my farrier has taken to chopping the toe off with a huge hoof scissor... I'm educating myself so I can trim my horse myself in the future, thak you for these very informative videos.
I’m glad this video helped you see the problems, if you need more help please join our free rehab group on Facebook - The Phoenix Way: Path 2 Hoof Health group: facebook.com/groups/291820723387464
I need to watch this over and over….
And you can ;) 👍👏
This is fantastic, explains me a lot, great job, thank you!
Thank you 🙏
Great job, again, thank you. Your diagrams are SO helpful.❤
Thank you 🙏
My horse definitely has toe calluses on both fronts. So if I convince my trimmer to allow his toes to grow and not trim / rasp them back, will the calluses naturally wear down and go away without rasping them? Also, if a horse truly has thin soles, will a callus (or calluses) form to protect the whole sole? (versus just the toe … which has to actually be uncomfortable since the tip of P3 is directly behind that toe callus - right?)
I love your videos and I really wish you had a website to correspond to since I don’t do Facebook .
Thanks for your kind words! Yes the calluses will naturally wear down once the hoof wall comes into play properly and the horse's hoof is balanced naturally and correctly. If a horse has truly thin soles then a ridge of callus won't be produced because of the thin sole, it will be produced in areas of wear because of lack of wall. With a thin soled horse, you need to protect with boots and change the diet and the management as fast as you can 👍 (and the trimming of course). New website will be on its way! 🙏
Thank you for doing those videos. Very helpful!
Thank you for watching :) 🙏
VERY useful and clear exposition, thank you Lindsey. One question, however. If, as you say at the end of the lesson, the heels are brought down to HSP, and the rest of the sole, won't just leaving the callous mean the hoof is higher at the front? And if so, does that matter, will movement wear it down a bit to fit the newly balanced sole, etc etc. Also, I recall Gary mentioned in passing in one of the Lives that you only trim to the 'ten past two' point if you want the toe wall to grow down? Thanks to Lindsey or anyone who can help me here! (Susan Garvin)😁
Hi Susan, so if there is not toe wall in play when you go to balance forward along the volar plane after balancing the heels to the HSP, then you have to leave the callous alone because it is the only support/protection that the foot has at the front of the foot, and you don't have a clear reference point to balance, so you risk over-thinning the sole. You have to wait until the toe comes back into play again, then you can start to balance forward correctly and by then you will find that the callous starts to reduce as it is needed less and less. Hope that helps :)
@@lindsaysetchell Many thanks Lindsey, this confirms what I had worked out from looking at the vids and listening to the Lives, so I am happy to have the 👍! It seems to be taking ages for the toe wall to grow down but I am sticking to the plan. 😬
That´s I needed to know, thank you!
Happy to help! 👍🚀
Perhaps a lessor degree of filing the "mustang roll" would decrease the calluse size because the "pillar" would be intact after the trim..
Yep as I said in the lesson, leave the natural pillar of support :)
So you don’t do a mustang roll? Wild horse hooves have rounded off toes/hooves. How can that be wrong.
Yes we do a mustang roll, we put back what the horse needs - removing the toe is not a mustang roll.
Do you have a video on how much to to keep and how much to leave for the toe? Barefoot seems to drill very much that the toe should be short and the horse should be on it's sole
This video might help: th-cam.com/video/7qKT4fkm8CM/w-d-xo.html
How do you trim to grow the toe wall back?
You just learn to do the correct mustang roll :)
"retracted" sole syndrom: thin sole except the callous or the Barmaterial towards the apex of the frog
Soles cannot 'retract' or sink back. It is an optical illusion because more material is allowed to grow and callus around the sole.
barmaterial will turn into solehorn around the apex of the frog: Bowker
No bar material is hoof wall. Excess bar material will blend into sole material and if left can form an unnatural 'mon-bar' around the apex of the frog - which needs to be removed!
the wall does not support the horse. its the sole. why can feral horses in usa walk without problem althought they make a very pronounced mustang roll/Bevel
The sole is not a structure for support pillars, the horn is not as complex as the horn in the hoof wall. The feral horses in the great basin are not removing their toe wall pillars ever.