You're Losing Money Buying Cheap Watches! & Saving For A Grail!
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Yo man you are the funniest watch channel by far keep up the great work 😂
Buy the watch you want, and dont get in to debt.
And don't spend your rent money ✔️😁🍻
Bingo, too many collectors have no financial competence...nothing in the watch world is worth running on a debt treadmill for. 👏👏👏
So few!!!
My limit is 10 watches after that I will have to sell one to buy a one. A self control rule I made up. 🤷🏻♂️
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Came here to argue that not everyone can afford a Rolex and that there's lots of great affordable watches out there that are worth buying... wound up agreeing with basically everything you said.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen a Rolex I’d buy even if I had the dosh! Two rules I follow when buying a watch... I need to like it aesthetically & it must have a reasonably good quality & reliable movement!
i love orient and hamilton, seiko, casio.
Depends where in life you are financially and socially. Id rather buy something for under 500$ and spend the big bucks on my baby that is underway. That way i can still enjoy horology and live a normal life. I'm sure there are also many other monetary expenses much more vital than a high end watch for most people. But if you are well set and don't have any other responsibilities then this is a great advice.
💯!!! I have two kids and a morgage to pay. There is no way, I will buy a Rolex. I love my SKX007 and my SARB033 to death.
Exactly! It's easy for single guys or those without children, a house etc. to spend big bucks on luxury items. Then you grow up.
95% of the world population will never buy a watch over $500.00
Luxury watches are jewelry for men.
Quality watches can be found for under $500.00 but the consumer MUST research.
@@marcsalomone4175 Haha, so true. I only can image the way the conversation would go. "Hey honey, how would you feel, if I use our family's holiday money for the next three years to spend it on this nice shiny Rolex watch?" 😂
@@ElBoyoElectronico You forgot the reason.. "Honey this will only appreciate in value"! Lol.. Its retarded what the re sellers and fan boys have done to the market.. And lets not kid ourselves.. The internet and these re sellers have squeezed the prices.. Everyone wants whats in, or whats cool. No one wants to be left behind.
The “Invicta Boys” sounds like a Disney channel boy band.
I think they used to open for the Cheetah Girls...
I have a Pro Diver, and can confirm. Though, god knows we're always off-key.
The only thing with a 'Grail Watch' is. There is a possibility that when you eventually get it your tastes may change and it just becomes another watch in your collection ie you get bored with it. If you then decide you want to sell it, and depending on the brand you could lose a ton of money. I guess it comes down to quantity over quality.
Logan Smith picked up my grail watch pre owned at about half price for this very reason. I also waited a few years before I made the purchase.
@@beckwithtl That's the best way to do it 👍
I got a platinum band Rolex from my grandfather after he passed it stays in a safety deposit box I actually prefer my invictas if they get stolen,broken,or just stop working it doesn't bother me loosing a hundred bucks lol
Got my grail Rolex gmt master ii new from an AD. The grey market is selling these used for more than retail.
Yup, also how many guys do you know that stop at their grail watch? I feel that most men, in genera, set goals, reach them and then move on to the next goal. It’s just the way it is.
Casio’s classics are cheap, G Shocks are cheap. They are also ones of the greatest & reliable brands of all times.
Canon Bares I do. They just work. From retro cool to G Shock tough, fun & functional.
Mdv106!!!
Japanese watch fan Boys unite!
@@thebeerdedone7568 haha! Those watches are so amazing though. I plan on getting an edifice, and 3 20 dollar casko wqtches
@@thebeerdedone7568 Absolutely, they just work & are fun & you don't have to worry about being mugged for a blinkin watch!
There's a difference between cheap and affordable , none of my watches is above the $ 1000.00 mark and I'm very happy with all of them . Whatever other people think … that is not my problem . I buy my watches for me , not to please or impress other people .
Same here I love your reply lol
100% spot-on! That's how you do it!
@@teddyhenriquez5192 Thank you , sir .
@@michaelward3421 Thanks , sir .
Longines, totally underappreciated and fantastic value!
Nailed it
Very true! You hear absolutely nothing about Longines in most TH-cam channels. Joryyyyyy!!!!
Because it is lower quality than in the past, and very expensive for what it is!!!
100% agreed.
@@johnmuthan286 I totally disagree, yes, lots of the lower tier Longines uses standard off the shelf Swatch movements based on ETA but the movements are great and case quality are also really good. Besides the benefits of being part of the Swatch group has reached the consumer, in my opinion the prices are very reasonable for what you get.
Luckily I learned this lesson from previous hobbies before I got into watches. If I had just saved up and gotten what I really wanted in the first place my guitar, gun and motorcycle collections wouldn't be nearly as large as they are.
There is an interesting psychological factor in wanting to acquire something, which objectively is not worth the price. However, just the struggle, waiting and sacrifice to get it motivates folks to begin the quest. I think that there is a lot of dopamine involved in the waiting, yearning, planning, and longing for that Rolex watch. It is called the grail watch because the object (made out of steel in a modern factory) becomes something almost transcendental, magical and holy; it has moved into the realm of the sacred. I imagine that many once they finally acquire their Rolex, they then realize that it is just a watch...and not a transformative object and they are disappointing. For many it the waiting and anticipating which is more fun that achieving the goal. That is why many watch collectors will buy and sell the same model of watch over and over again. Once they get it, they do not want it, so they sell it, then they want it again, and the cycle continues all over again.
Most Rolexes not worth their price especially older ones. With the crappy end links and bracelets etc. Those old rolexes are still very expensive for what you’re getting. Even the new ones aren’t really worth it. It’s not just me saying this a lot of watch guys agree. Most youtubers don’t bash watches they like (Rolex) But they should be honest with themselves. You have a few youtubers like Bruce Williams and Random Rob who review everything and don’t jump on bandwagons. 😉
I’m not a Rolex hater but vintage Rolex is the most overrated category in watches.
I like the Rolex watches but I hate the brand and the snobbiness that comes with it.
Rolex puts a huge amount of expertise in the movement and it’s development. Most competitors are just shoving a Seiko or an ETA in there and spending money on the shiny bits. Of course they look like great value. Sorry, but to say that’s a superficial conclusion is being very polite.
Rolex absolutely are special. Special enough for the prices? Probably not. But in the end, it depends on your priorities and just how Much of a watchist you are.
@@kellypaws Maybe true but they recoup advertising costs by price gouging.
@@PepRex I would not characterize it as "price gouging" as Rolex is not providing you with something that you absolutely require (I mean, you can buy a Timex if your primary concern is knowing the time). Rolex sells a luxury product; same as an exotic car (or you can buy a used Prius); or a luxury apartment overlooking Central Park, NY (you can rent a one-bedroom in a more affordable area). Rolex knows what they are selling - a well built status symbol. Only a fool buys a Rolex when that purchase does not figure well into their actual finances. I have a Rolex and an Omega and I can tell you that the Omega, at less than half the price of the Rolex, is essentially the same quality of watch. But, at least, I recognize this and understand why I purchased both.
True watch lovers were all types of watches, they don't see them as investments.
what's a whatch?
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I don’t see a watch enthusiast wearing a mvmt or Daniel Wellington
@@mariog7213 Those brands are great for people waking up to a new hobby, or just a fashion accessory.
@@mariog7213 it's not the name it's the watch, if you like it you wear it.
Can’t go wrong with Timex, Casio, Orient, Seiko if you’re on a budget
timex , seiko , orient are.all great wathes , casio is overpriced crap
I buy homage watches before pulling the trigger on a grail. This gives me the chance to get a basic look and feel of a style. If I'm convinced, I give the homage away (or sell it) and buy the grail. I've found this to be very useful. 4 times out of 5, I end up giving away the homage because I don't like something or another about the piece.
Eg: Panerai Homage (Kimsdun) which was the same proportion as the Panerai I wanted was incompatible with my daily wear and styling. I fond it too big (44mm) and cumbersome and therefore I dropped the idea.
Bottom line is that if chosen sensibly, homages can be a great litmus test for a grail. Sometimes they pass the test so well that you drop the idea of a grail. I ordered a Green dial Loreo which is a Submariner Hulk homage. I ended up liking it so much that I've kept it. Rolex wait time and other things put together made no sense for me to wag my tongue around and wait for it.
Currently I've just order a Parnis homage of the Rolex GMT Master II. I've heard from the reviews that it is very well put together. Looking forward to checking it out.
I like the distinction you make between cheap and inexpensive watches. They are not the same.
Really enjoyed your video. As an avid collector based in the UK I think you’re spot on regarding how to build your dream collection...keep it going👍
I'm no longer able to consider saving for a grail due to pretty much a massive change in circumstances etc . My previous grail would've been a Omega Seamaster , now it's change to a more affordable Bulova Lunar Pilot. I've adjusted my priorities and still want to keep collecting watches , recently I've gotten my first two g-shock dw5600s. I can manage about £100 every two months and that's fine for me now.
Eight months down the line I'll have that Bulova 🤣
Consider the Lunar pilot in the Black version with the leather strap. No date window and a bit cheaper. I love mine. its very accurate too.
Check this one out at £335 www.firstclasswatches.co.uk/bulova-mens-special-edition-lunar-pilot-chronograph-98a186-p-42006/
@@RichardsModellingAdventures 👍 only thing is I think they're based in far East and would get hit with taxes , despite the .co.uk
@@saintdave1877 ah that's a shame. if they ship from the UK you should be OK though
@@saintdave1877 Learn to smuggle. If they can get arms into those countries, they can get a watch.
@@cybrscot I'm Scottish , I already know how to smuggle 🤣🏴
I thought I was going to hate this episode but it is AWESOME👍. Excellent balanced and reasoned discussion, thank you Jory 😊
Great advice! I think the Invicta Iron Man looks like a great watch to keep my table from tipping over.
Got my pitchfork out, ready to watch this.
Ok Jory, I agree with you and I'm putting the pitchfork back in the shed.
Man knows quality, details and make, and so as the intricacies that makes the AFFORDABLE not cheap. 2022 onwards.
I buy what gives me joy and therefore value. I’ve got Chinese specials like Cadisen which I love and have great value for the money, but are ‘cheap’ in price. I could care less if my watches lose money value because that’s not why I buy them. My new car lost value the second I drove it off the lot...again...don’t care because it gives me joy!
Watches that I currently own: Seiko 5 Sport(currently wearing), Citizen Drive(discontinued), Q2 SWATCH, G Shock DW9052, US Polo association dress watch, TFX unknown. Only one I don't wear is the TFX. Luckily I didn't pay anything for it.
All of them seem perfectly fine and I have had all except the swatch and Seiko for years.
simple. just dont buy fashion watch.
Cartier: Imma joke to you?!
Joking by the way, fuck DW and those MVMT
well there are excemptions. such as gucci, cartier, LV and the likes.
Every watch is a fashion watch.
@@jilliango15 Cartier yes, but LV and Gucci watches are really overpriced and in a bad taste (well atleast in my opinion).
@@elduderino1329 No, fashion watches are from companies like Diesel or MK that make clothes & just garbage watches on the side for suckers that know nothing about horology. Companies that make nothing but watches for over a century are NOT "fashion" watches. Fashion watches by definition are made by companies that make only a minority of their profits from watches. Fashion watches & fashion accessories are two different things. Cheers! 🍻🥂🍷🍷
Once again, thanks to guys like you, I just purchased my best watch so far. Longines conquest 39mm auto and I love it!!
I'm glad I watched this a while ago as after 3 years, I finally pulled the trigger on a accutron spaceview 214 and I couldn't be any happier with that purchase. And it's much more rewarding after these years to have that m7 humming on my wrist. Thank you!
Totally agree about the quartz TAGs, or quartz anything, for that matter, over about $200. I do have a TAG auto, however...a TAG 2000 auto (ETA 2824-2) that I bought in ‘04. It was my first “nice” watch, & it still runs well & looks decent. I probably wouldn’t buy another TAG, though; there’s just so much out there that’s just as good/better, & less expensive. Case-in-point...I just bought a Glycine Combat 6 (Sellita movement) for $300 & it’s really nice!
Well, Tag quartz on display at a jewelry store got me started on watch hunting/researching. It was $1300 for a Tag quartz, so I didn't want to buy it just yet. After months of researching I bought Oris Aquis instead.
Love my longines hydroconquest grey ceramic. Its probably as far as i will go money wise but i do believe it will last me for years and years.
For our sake , hope it will last much much longer .... mine is hydroconquest blue ceramic lol
@@alvinchua6284 lovely piece sir congrats. I was torn between the 2 but chose the grey. Have you seen the new green versions? Very nice. I wish you good luck with yours.
I have the Longines Big Eye Chronograph and love it.
@@VersedNJ longines is a good brand that really did not get enough love nowadays .
You nailed it with your "playing the long game" comment. Just enjoy the journey.
There are watches from brands that keep their value; and watches which fall. And, this occurs at all price categories, and it is generally the naive and ignorant who get screwed. The only difference is that the higher the price, the more money is in play to lose...or possibly gain if one is very lucky or cunning. Generally I do not think that watch investing is the best investment, and it should only be undertaken by those who are shrewd and knowledgeable. There are also missed opportunity costs; that $15,000 could buy stock, or property or beautiful antiques. In the end folks have to decide whether they are buying watches because they want to enjoy then and/or for an investment. My advice is, buy what you really like and as long as you can afford it, do not look too much at the resale price. If you really like a watch, you will not need to resell it and try and recover what you spent for it. The problem is that so many folks do not know what they really want, and are too swayed by temporary fashion. Once the fashion passes they do not like the watch. They only liked it because it was in style then.
Yeah us Tag Lovers are here. Though the love of my Tag life is the F1 automatic. I agree the quartz is not worth it. T3 please differentiate your opinions between the Tag quartz vs automatic. Still love ya dude 🤘
I received a g-shock DW 5600 as a gift and it has changed my watch tan into a DW 5600 tan. It really is the best watch I own.
I think working harder and saving for a watch is a good practice no matter the price range, you will appreciate it much more in my experience
What about those quartz Seamaster 300m ? Those have to be trash too according to this logic. But you wouldn’t say so cause it’s an “omega”
The TagHeuer he mentioned has a basic and inexpensive quartz movement and the watch design offers nothing special and looks basic as well, while the Seamaster has way better design and the quartz movement is made by Omega. The prices for both watches are almost identical and i'm pretty sure almost everyone would take the Omega over the Tag any day of the week.
My reasonable grail watch is a Zenith El Primero, but that won't stop me from buying a $150 Seiko if I like it and I think it's high value.
See Random Rob's recent review of the new Aquaracer. Nice watch.
Zoop Da Loop many companies use the 2824, do some sort of modification to it and rename it as their own. Hamilton, Breitling, Davosa among others. This is not an uncommon practice but when TAG does it, oh the horror. How dare they. This just tells me that you know nothing about watches and you have conditioned to hate TAG by others in the watch community like Jory.
I love Tag Heuer (a few of their models), but you are a 100% right, better value for money out there. I appreciate you being honest. Oh and, I can’t understand Invicta either. Keep it up!
Actually, it's a more serious question than you think (unless you have virtually unlimited funds). I have to ask whether one of my reasonably attainable "grail" watches, e.g., a Glasshutte Original Senator Hand Date or a JLC Master Control Sector Dial, would make me happier than my current three favorites: Zodiac Olympos Military Chronometer; Christopher Ward CW65 PVD Black; or my trusty $249 Certina DS Podium (a 38mm go anywhere, do anything classic)? I prize comfort, light weight (arthritic wrist) and readability.
Great advice. Watch enthusiast almost always go by way of different journeys but without exception end up at the same destination. Overall your better off saving for your grail watches rather than settling by buying a bunch of cheap watches just to scratch that itch. The price range doesn’t matter as much as getting what you truly want.
The rich get richer by claiming value where value doesn't exist then convincing people to overspend for it.
market - in short.
@@munk455 no
Tag is not that bad.....
Tag’s aquaracer is amazing, the 2550$ ceramic bezel ones you can get for 17-1800 which is super worth it for a great durable watch from a company that has lots of history and doesn’t sound horrible, like oris
For best investment avoid any kind of fashion watch, especially if they skimp on quality...and that includes several very expensive Swiss brands such as Panerai and Henry Miller. Go with good quality and timeless styles-this is why the Rolex Sub has done so well-preferably from established watch brands what are well managed and think in the long term.
Tag made a ceramic Aquaracer that I’ve been wanting and will probably buy, because I had a Link that I wore for 15 years, beat it to death, and when I was tired of it, I still got a reasonable price for it. Most men’s sports watches are too big for me. The watch companies don’t really make sports watches for women. Omega made the women’s sea master, but it is no longer in production. Most of those on the market are beaten up. I have a 36mm Breitling that is too big and heavy for me. Maybe the Tag Aquaracer’s place is on a woman’s wrist.
I own two vostoks that I love. Scuba dude and gmt. Cheap and durable.
I have a Seiko 6119 8490 my grandfathers and it works without any problem
Interestinng vid... as a watch newbie I'd say bad watches are a waste of money and that if you spend time researching, and deciding what you do and don't like, there are good watches, and bargains to be had at any price point. At the moment my three watch collection contains my 'everyday' Orient Mako II, a dressier Bambino, and a mecha-quartz chrono from Dan Henry. None cost me more than $400, I love 'em all, and they all work for me. Sure, they most likelly won't go to my kids on forty years, but equally I don't see them as a waste of money compared to something from Invicta etc. They are what they are, inexpensive sure, but they work for me.
Great episode. My second watch was Tag - but it is an automatic and I would say that it was pretty affordable (around 1000) - I got some kind of discount at AD in Spain. Some time after my purchase and after doing a lot of watch research I regreted that purchase. But now, looking and wearing that tag, I like it a lot :) It is formula 1 caliber 6, I think they do not produce it anymore. It is my go to steel mechanical sports watch. It is of great size (41) and it has 200m of WR and it keeps great time. Would I buy another Tag ? No. I think I would go for something else in that price, but I think that my Tag for the price was a good buy.
Oh and also I agree with what you said about buying quality watches while waiting for your "grail". I bought the king Turtle (black dial on bracelet, J version) and currently I am saving for Tudor BB 58. Is it going to delay me ? Yes. Do I regret buying that watch ? No. It is a good watch. I also think that I will buy at least one more watch before I get to BB58. I can wait - patience is a good thing.
Everyone always talk about tag quarts!... but I never hear about the automatic collections!.... the is the same on the most luxury watches!. Keep it real and I want to here from you Time Teller! Bring it on
My wife recently told me to stop buy cheap watches and buy proper one for sum of that money. Good point that cheap one doesn't mean bad one and vice versa. I prefer quartz. My daily driver is Seiko SQ sports 100 from '78, mint condition (100$). Absolutely love it. For fun I have Casio CA-53W. My grail would probably be Certina DS action diver in titanium (precidrive).
I love the looks of Tag Heuer watches. However, unfortunately, they lack in quality in comparison to their competitors like Oris, Hamilton, longines, and even tissot that are known and tends to be more affordable. The Tag heuer aquaracer that you mentioned, has the basic, unregulated/straight out of the factory eta movement, framed by a plastic movement holder with flimsy bracelet held on by basic push-in pins.... For over $2000. They lost respect for me when they invested so much in their advertising and not on the watches itself.
Invicta, TAG, Diesel or any "fashion" watch made by a company that also makes clothing...🤢🤮😵 Is that a dinner plate on your arm or did you duct tape a wall clock to your wrist? 😁😄😂🤣
I’d have to agree however their tourbillon offering is actually quite a steal.
Hey Jory, you ever thought of maybe include Certina in some of your new videos? They've got tons of cool history behind them and they're highly underated, their DS concept is pretty cool. I just bought a certina DS first Ceramic, it's a quartz but it's a diver that gives you that submariner vibe while still having it's own unique design, it has a domed sapphire, made 361L stainless steel, water resistant to 200m, decent blue lume, polished and brushed Finnish with a really cool certina turtle logo on the case back, not to mention a really nice screw down crown, 41mm, really cool watch, picked it up on eBay for a steal, I believe the reference I have is now discontinued though.
The first Invicta pictured in this video was a Sea Dragon that sold new for $140 (this watch never sold for $1,600). The second Invicta pictured was a Venom that retailed for $200 (this watch never sold for $2,600). I have sold hundreds of Invicta watches over the years and I have almost always sold them for more than I paid for them. When purchasing, I do try to get the best deal so that definitely factors in to my resale calculations. Invicta watches do hold their value and they are a good investment. I know that my experience is not unique. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and everyone has different taste. To me an Invicta looks so much more interesting than most luxury watches. Invicta is a great deal for the money. They are well built with better than standard movements.
jory, you brought it to the point perfectly, i couldn't agree more and i am sick of that discussion
I like nice watches. but im not high enough up the management chain at work yet to completely avoid physical labor. so i wear cheap watches that look good, but i wont cry over scratching up. Generally quartz/gshock types, but i have a few Chinese special automatics. I tend to gravitate toward some of the less expensive brands that still offer Seiko movements and sapphire crystals, so upper end "cheap" watches. My favorite right now being one by Pagani Designs. Cant really tell its not a $400 watch tbh, and i got it on sale for 60 bucks.
I have had a few invicta watches, I love the automatic movement. $80.00 for a throw away watch is okay with me. That cheap crystal always scratches and it doesn’t keep time well. I tinker with timing automatics and an $80.00 to trash a watch after three years of use is fine. I never liked digital or quartz watches but this first GSHOCK watch I just got I absolutely love.
I have no intention of ever selling any of my watches. I might give one or two of them away someday but no intention of selling or trading. :-)
It's quite possible - has happened to many- that in two-three years you'll see it differently, and you'll be looking at a once loved watch, saying to yourself, 'Ugh, this cheap tat, I'd almost pay someone to take it of my hands really.'
This has happened, easily, to many; watches are a dangerous game.
Perhaps, down the road your opinion might change...that's why it's wise to consider resale value. 👏👏👍👍
same here. I got into watch game just a few years ago, made some impulsive purchases, tho not too expensive. Already gave away 3 of them. Now I got carefully thought through wish list, few keepers and still few pieces waiting for their new owners.
I don't sell them...I give them away...( The Seiko 5s... ☝️)
I have a cheap watch I bought on wish for $15 bucks .. I bought it on 2014 and still have it, it’s working and it’s in good condition.
Bought a TAG Aquaracer WAP1112 for 421 dollars Canadian sold it for 750.00 Canadian. Yeah it was a bad investment. I then bought a formula 1 Red Bull edition for 680 Canadian. I really like that watch, it was a grail to me when I was a kid. I won't sell it, but for sure would make a lot of money if I did. I guess you think Glycine and Omega and anyone that
Has quartz movements are crap. Hate to break it to you but some enthusiasts prefer quartz.
Always fun, always fresh !
Hey.. How about higher end Tags like Monaco or Carreras Heuer 01 and 02?
I don't really have a grail. And that's ok. I just can't justify spending so much on a watch.
Despite having to reboot my computer three times after running a two-hour virus scan because the word "Invict@" was said more than what Microsoft 10 can handle, this was simply an excellent episode by you, T3 - very well structured description on a repeatedly blundered purchase of the heavily marketed 'fashion' watch by the masses that surround me daily. To each his own, but I too scorn the misuse of a dollar on glittering refuse when it could alternatively be saved and well-spent on a properly put together time-piece.
Thank you, brotha!! Hope the family is doing well! 🙏👍
I agree with you. I saved my money and just recently was able to get my grail watch...a Cartier Tank. I'm happy with my collection but now for my next grail…...
I was on a cruise ship(not with Kung flu) they had invicta watches for $800 on sale.
I got one for a work beater for $70 when the ship docked bac at Melbourne
My Seiko SKX is a value watch, NOT a cheap watch. I thought I was going to hate this video, but we agree!
I agree with your points about throwing money away. Those prices for the Invicta models you show are fake MSRP. Although people tend to overpay, those watches sell for a fraction of those prices shown here. They can be anywhere from $200.00 to $400.00 and I would not pay even that myself, but if someone likes it, look for the best deal for your hard-earned money and enjoy the watch.
My grail is Omega Aquatera 39, so I have to wait for a lotery win and ware my Timex...
Watching this, wearing my Christopher Ward, and I was glad it made the cut, lol.
Iv been agonising over pulling the trigger on one for a while , this just tipped the scales .
Screw what anyone says.
Love watches and prefer to buy many watches at a decent price than an expensive watch, like a Rolex for over 10K. I have an orient, Hamilton, squale and even a islander. Yep. That islander is awesome and I use it as my dive watch. Though I can use the squale, I don’t because the squale’s blue face is beautiful and prefer to keep it intact. Anyway. Great video
Lot of good quality and affordable watches out there between the $300 - $700. You nailed it with Seiko and Hamilton. I would also throw in Glycine and Squale.
I love Tag. I bought an Aquaracer Calibre 5 and it’s great, one of my go to watches.
Very useful video and in those times when in a watch shop named Watch shop in Ireland, believe me, or not, they had no one watch in there at all. I mean no one automatic movement watch and no watch after the designers Boss, Armani, MVMT and so on........ passing by have seen many people looking for watches there. Should be illegal.
I disagree with Joey on so many things (cough cough Tag Heuer) but we agree on our love for Certina. Best value for a Swiss made watch. I have a Certina DS podium I bought new for $240. It has a ETA 2824. My Tudor Ranger has the same movement and was $2500. Sure the finishing on the Tudor is better but nobody sees that when I'm wearing it. ❤️ Certina.
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This was great!!!! My brother asked me for an Invicta and I did the same thing!!
there are no wrong watches it what you like cheap or not. its in the eye of the beholder
No flames here. I respect your, spelt right, opinion. Overall, I am satisfied having spent just under $1,000 on 27 watches. I really enjoy my Invicta Pro Diver 39002. Is it perfect? No. It has a decent movement and cost me $75, about the price of a mediocre meal with wine at a restaurant. I expect to get 5-10 years, and I am fine with that. I also bought a quartz Franck Muller Crazy Dial homage for $20, about the price of a large pizza. I wear it 2-5 times a year and I enjoy it. I bought a $20 Tevise Submariner homage to see if I like the whole Sub thing. I put it on a NATO strap and wear it much more than I expected. I also spent $10 on 3, yes 3, field/pilot type watches. I was pretty sure I did not like field/pilot watches and after trying to wear them for 3 months I was right. Oh well, I guess I had to sacrifice a Big Mac Meal to get that lesson. I am actively looking for G Shock I might like. I want an analog dial with a digital readout in a size and style that suits me. I have a few more very inexpensive watches that have positive utility to me. I have also bought some less expensive watches that I regret buying. The Seiko Flightmaster, the Nomos Lambda homage, the Parnis sterile dial GMT. The Parnis is interesting in that I really like the watch, I hate the fact it is a sterile dial. I will probably swap dials shortly. I have spent just under $1,000 on my 27 watches. I have 5 I regret buying, 7 I wear so infrequently that I really should not have bought them, But I have 15 watches, all under $200 and some as low as $20, that I enjoy. I am on a journey to buy at least one "real" watch that I can hand down and be remembered by. In the year since I started buying these "cheap" watches I have learned 10 times more than in the previous 2 years where I was just watching TH-cam videos and looking at watches online and in stores. Overall, money well spent.
What's your view on Louis Erard watches ? Is the brand completely trash or the do offer good watches at reasonable prices ?
I couldn't agree with you more on this video. When I first started collecting watches I was that guy buying all of that junk thinking I was buying great watches. Fortunately now I know better. I would be curious to know what you think about some of the newer tag stuff like their new Heuer Autavia line. Also, I agree that paying a $1000 for the tag aqua Racer quartz is a waste of money.
Invicta ! WHY WOULD YOU ? 😱
$75 for a starburst blue dial, Jubilee bracelet and a Seiko NH35 movement is pretty good value for me as a first Sub homage watch.
INVICTA is a great watch if you're riding the subway in New York at 2am.
Please do a video on how you justify 14k on the explorer over say... a $300 seiko Samurai or a micro brand Zelos $600 diver? Other than buying a name.
Patience is very sound advice. Also reality, don’t shoot too high and don’t get into debt over a watch. Grail watches can also lose money. If it’s a permanent keeper then that won’t matter and you can then spend the rest of your time totally content and happy.
Btw that $1600 Invicta is pretty awesome, it has three torpedo-chutes on the side even. How cool is that.
I usually got an inner fight between what I really want and what I really need. And second one always wins. Coz I'd rather buy another useful lens, no matter how much I want another watch. Decided to slowly go through my wish list only on special occasions. That way I can avoid some impulse purchases.
Just baught my quartz grail : Oceanus s5000e.
I'm done with quartz now and forever Kappa.
For mechanical watches, I have many affordable : Seiko, Orient, Tissot, Mido......I don't consider losing money buying them because I actually use all of them.
And I'm considering getting an over affordable : longines Hydroconquest.
As long as you actually USE your affordable watches, then it's not losing money.
I agree with producer Michael
I'm new to horology, trying to build a collection with inexpensive watches. Recently went to an Invicta store at an outlet mall. They had numerous watches under $150 and BOGO. Exactly the deal I wanted. Still walked out of the store without buying anything. Everything was too big, too blingy or too heavy.
Jory your illiteration sir : "consistant conundrum CRONOMETER collecting comunity"
@t3 I really love those early episodes you refer too. They taught me the difference between cheap and affordable, and got me hooked to the hobby. Today, the vast majority of my watches are super affordable Casios and I enjoy each and everyone of them.
Whatever happened to buy what you like has long as you can afford it? That being said the only grail watch on my radar is the GS SBGE201 other than that I'm happy what I have for the time being.
What say you:
$42 DW5600 or $72 for DW5600BB (blackout version)?
Just curious where y’all land in terms of aesthetics.
I think the blacked out version is amazing (on wrist right now). The negative display might be a little less legible, but it definitely definitely looks "cooler" :)
Damn! I agree with everything you said, but I own invicta 8932 and 89260B, I also own bunch of Seiko 5's and Casio Square G-shocks, they are not that bad.
Neither of those watches are too thick and long lasting but cheap enough to not make make me cry. haha
The 89260B has a Seiko nh35; movement it will likely last as long as any other watch that uses it. The case isn't likely break unless you beat it with a hammer same as any other steel case. Just it might not be as well polished as a more expensive watch.
Invicta makes some "colorful" watches...but their Pro Diver is a great value. Funny how both good and bad-and completely opposite style approaches-come out of the same company.
What kind of watch brands can you recommend at the moment?
1. Brands around 50$
2. 50-200$
3. 200-500$
4. 500-1000$
5. 1000-2000$
Three to five per price range. Or more ))).
What kind of brands you suggest never to look at?
Thank you.
zapper28 1. Seiko, 2. Seiko, 3. Seiko presage , 4. Seiko presage , 5 grand seiko quartz
@@histevenhere - authorized retailer in da thread? ))
Seiko is pretty obvious choice. Thanks anyway.
zapper28 haha no no just seiko fan boy . On my 6th grand seiko and it all started with the sarb033
Thanks
Jorie- I always enjoy and learn something from your videos! What do you think of the brand Revue Thommen?
Kinda late to this convo but…
I have INVICTA watches, I will never get a limited #1 anything from them. I like the weight and size. I do own a Reserve venom in gold and it’s huge, but for $249. It’s not for everyone so I get that.
I’ve been rocking a Red Rally Citizen chrono eco drive for what feels like 5 years and spent $150 off a pawn website. All it needs are straps, and i spend about 25-50 dollars on leather straps 😅 ouch
Every other watch I’ve owned has been a “pharmacy” watch or a casio from a place I can buy a camera 😂. I honestly just want to step up from 29.99 watches and treat myself to middlepack watches. Might Go off the deep end if I make it to my 50th birthday, and get a High line watch, but gotta get there first lol and the invictas should hold me till then