we have traded the glory of God for the glory of the person in the mirror...treasuring the creature above the Creator thus committing treason against a judge who is impeachebly just in his right to punish us but instead providing a rescue plan to restore and reconcile us to Him self...brilliant..that my friends, is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I'm a newly saved Christian, so forgive the ignorance. How can a true Christian be racist, or a bigot? I just don't get that at ALL. Mr. Piper talks like that is even possible. If I were a pastor of a congregation which I believed held on to racist views, I would then have to realize that my congregation is completely ignorant of the most basic attributes of God. Placing value on other people's superficial attributes like ethnicity and race is so anti-Christian to it's core that it seems almost ridiculous to even have the need to have sermon on it. I think in my humble opinion.
Hello! I agree. It is sad to think a sermon must be preached about racism, especially if you have read and did an in depth study of the Bible. However, there are people do not wish to check their hearts no matter what they read, what they hear, or how long they have been in a church. It truly is a heart problem which is why I love 1 Samuel 16:7 where the Lord tells Samuel He looks at the heart, not man’s appearance.
A very discerning question A. Rosa! I'd also like to add to Margarita's very insightful comment. Unfortunately many churches have fallen under what I call "cultural" Christianity. Too many people have fallen under the assumption that Christian living is a societal way of life rather than a true transformation of their heart & spirit. This way of thinking stifles their relationship with the Holy Spirit & unfortunately does not allow for much santification to take root in their foundational relationship with Jesus. Many forget or tend to ignore God's greatest commandment, Matthew 22: 37-39 "And he said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first choice second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself." I always try to encourage every Christ follower to continue operating in the Holy Spirit; loving God and showing love to others as this will be a testimony for the world to see. God bless.
because "christian" ultimately means you are trusting in the righteousness in the one whom God has sent. all applications post-salvation ("sanctification") can start from a place that is very dark, from an external perspective. i have racism in me due to a black guy who robbed me told me i was a racist after i confronted him about the theft. being saved doesn't immediately free the soul from every evil thought.
"How can a true Christian be racist, or a bigot? " Very simply...he is a Human,thus fallible. Only GOD is pure, you and your friends in church or anywhere ARE NOT.
@@terryjp3050 "Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen." - 1 John 4:20 "Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness." - 1 John 2:9 "Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." - 1 John 3:15 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” - John 13:34-35
It would have been better if he would’ve made it about current racial problems in our own country instead of making it a universal problem. We have a current problem that many white preachers REFUSE to acknowledge. All the things he named about Armenian and Asian genocides they’ve been acknowledged and reconciled by their nations. While he is an awesome man of God, I’m honestly disappointed he failed to do this.
Check out the whole conference though. He isn't the only one that spoke. He, Tim Keller and Anthony Bradley all spoke. Race and systemic injustice was the central subject. They even did a Q&A afterwards.
@@juanitamcduffie5420 Lost your interest? He's literally the first speaker for an entire conference and conversation about race and the church. His goal was to set forth the "big picture". AND he's part of the Q&A.
All of mankind are racists in some shape or form, we all secretly hate/fear what we dont understand. Our fallen nature is in the habit of comparing and judging in arrogance and pride and want credit for things that God has given us, things we have not achieved in and of ourselves. More preaching and teaching on humility and the love for the brotherhood and taking up our crosses and humbly following Christ is so needed.
Only a man, a good preacher, indeed, of WHITE PRIVILEGE, could espouse these beliefs. My bible says that He (Christ) came unto His own (is that Not race, ethnicity, identity?). In Romans 10, the peripatetic Apostle Paul's prayer in the opening of Romans 10 is Not for the world but, rather, for Israel (his people). Well-meaning and well-intentioned preachers like this good man do NOT help us in the conflagration of American society but rather, ignorantly (not intelligence) speak from privilege and legacy and unlike Ezekiel have Not sat where they sat. To paraphrase it in the words of the great Zora Neale Hurston, from her 1942 memoir "Dust Tracks on a Road", "I have been in sorrows kitchens and licked all the pots". Privileged persons such a Piper - and I absolutely count him as a brother in Christ - there is no cause now or heretofore to think otherwise, but your lack of experience or understanding of inherent privilege and legacy has blinded or shaded your understanding and appreciation for the reality of the underclass. May the eyes of our outstanding - mine included - ever be enlightend, Ephesians 1:18a
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Thank you Piper, great preaching brother!
Good to know someone was speaking Biblical sense in this conference! ...and good to see one of you focusing on God and Jesus instead of humans. :)
we have traded the glory of God for the glory of the person in the mirror...treasuring the creature above the Creator thus committing treason against a judge who is impeachebly just in his right to punish us but instead providing a rescue plan to restore and reconcile us to Him self...brilliant..that my friends, is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
WE? speak for yourself please.
I'm a newly saved Christian, so forgive the ignorance. How can a true Christian be racist, or a bigot? I just don't get that at ALL. Mr. Piper talks like that is even possible. If I were a pastor of a congregation which I believed held on to racist views, I would then have to realize that my congregation is completely ignorant of the most basic attributes of God. Placing value on other people's superficial attributes like ethnicity and race is so anti-Christian to it's core that it seems almost ridiculous to even have the need to have sermon on it. I think in my humble opinion.
Hello! I agree. It is sad to think a sermon must be preached about racism, especially if you have read and did an in depth study of the Bible. However, there are people do not wish to check their hearts no matter what they read, what they hear, or how long they have been in a church. It truly is a heart problem which is why I love 1 Samuel 16:7 where the Lord tells Samuel He looks at the heart, not man’s appearance.
A very discerning question A. Rosa! I'd also like to add to Margarita's very insightful comment. Unfortunately many churches have fallen under what I call "cultural" Christianity. Too many people have fallen under the assumption that Christian living is a societal way of life rather than a true transformation of their heart & spirit. This way of thinking stifles their relationship with the Holy Spirit & unfortunately does not allow for much santification to take root in their foundational relationship with Jesus. Many forget or tend to ignore God's greatest commandment, Matthew 22: 37-39 "And he said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first choice second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself." I always try to encourage every Christ follower to continue operating in the Holy Spirit; loving God and showing love to others as this will be a testimony for the world to see. God bless.
because "christian" ultimately means you are trusting in the righteousness in the one whom God has sent. all applications post-salvation ("sanctification") can start from a place that is very dark, from an external perspective. i have racism in me due to a black guy who robbed me told me i was a racist after i confronted him about the theft. being saved doesn't immediately free the soul from every evil thought.
"How can a true Christian be racist, or a bigot? " Very simply...he is a Human,thus fallible. Only GOD is pure, you and your friends in church or anywhere ARE NOT.
@@terryjp3050 "Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen." - 1 John 4:20
"Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness." - 1 John 2:9
"Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." - 1 John 3:15
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” - John 13:34-35
Powerful message! “It’s not a social issue, it’s a blood issue!l
It would have been better if he would’ve made it about current racial problems in our own country instead of making it a universal problem. We have a current problem that many white preachers REFUSE to acknowledge. All the things he named about Armenian and Asian genocides they’ve been acknowledged and reconciled by their nations. While he is an awesome man of God, I’m honestly disappointed he failed to do this.
Check out the whole conference though. He isn't the only one that spoke. He, Tim Keller and Anthony Bradley all spoke. Race and systemic injustice was the central subject. They even did a Q&A afterwards.
The Armenian genocide is still denied by Turkey and a couple of their allies
ChainsGone2012 No thanks. Saw what I needed to see. Racism in our country is not something to talk around or sugar coat. He lost my interest.
@@juanitamcduffie5420 It worries me that you seem to only want to listen to things you already think or agree with. God bless you, sister!
@@juanitamcduffie5420 Lost your interest? He's literally the first speaker for an entire conference and conversation about race and the church. His goal was to set forth the "big picture". AND he's part of the Q&A.
All of mankind are racists in some shape or form, we all secretly hate/fear what we dont understand. Our fallen nature is in the habit of comparing and judging in arrogance and pride and want credit for things that God has given us, things we have not achieved in and of ourselves. More preaching and teaching on humility and the love for the brotherhood and taking up our crosses and humbly following Christ is so needed.
When one have a problem with a Gospel preacher preaching against racism puzzles me.
@Jan Pearson Why do think racism comes from God?
Being a human being created by God is much more important than my nationality the colour of my skin does not serve God
Powerful
Only a man, a good preacher, indeed, of WHITE PRIVILEGE, could espouse these beliefs. My bible says that He (Christ) came unto His own (is that Not race, ethnicity, identity?). In Romans 10, the peripatetic Apostle Paul's prayer in the opening of Romans 10 is Not for the world but, rather, for Israel (his people).
Well-meaning and well-intentioned preachers like this good man do NOT help us in the conflagration of American society but rather, ignorantly (not intelligence) speak from privilege and legacy and unlike Ezekiel have Not sat where they sat. To paraphrase it in the words of the great Zora Neale Hurston, from her 1942 memoir "Dust Tracks on a Road", "I have been in sorrows kitchens and licked all the pots".
Privileged persons such a Piper - and I absolutely count him as a brother in Christ - there is no cause now or heretofore to think otherwise, but your lack of experience or understanding of inherent privilege and legacy has blinded or shaded your understanding and appreciation for the reality of the underclass. May the eyes of our outstanding - mine included - ever be enlightend, Ephesians 1:18a