R18 to K24 8th Gen Civic Takes on K20 Civic Si
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ธ.ค. 2022
- R18 to K24 8th Gen Civic Takes on FA5: Did we make a Si killer?
By Aaron Gaghagen and Brian Gillespie
Last time we finally got our non-Si 8th gen Civic started. We got the ECU reflashed at the dealership to do so and now it's time for the good stuff! Time to hit the dyno to see what kind of power the TSX sourced K24 makes. Once we have that set, it's time to match up with our Civic Si, Project Dadmobile, to see if the work was worth it.
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I'm so glad someone finally K swapped the R18 chassis, I was so tired of forums just saying "just get an Si" and "it's not worth the time or money"
" You need an Si for the swap"
^^ si swap is certainly cheaper then getting an si
Exactly, build what you like!
You don't though. We used the Si transmission since we had one handy, but you can use any manual K series transmission.
@@VTECAcademy what shifter cables and shifter is needed for a AST5 transmission in this swap?
Thanks for making this swap possible and budget friendly, the “just get an SI” days are over lol
Absolutely!
*_Just get a Type R_* 🤣
To acquire all the parts plus the r18 , plus the time spent , an SI is still far cheaper .
Your mad but the math doesn’t add up. There’s a $3k Si in my area right now
@@Itspossiblekj yea in my area you can get an si for 3 to 5 k ..... which is the cost of just the r18 and maybe an engine , nevermind the other half of an si required to retrofit the k into the r18 .
Haha this man is a legend! Youngster stuck in a old folks body lol but I’m amazed how much he knows about civics, these k swaps and all these aftermarket parts! Dope 😎
Love the straight forward truth about all the problems and fixes 👏
Thanks! Hopefully people see that even if things don't go as expected, they can still get a good outcome.
Thanks for making such informative videos that always help/educate, and are so much fun! Way to go Scott!
Thanks for watching! Scot is legit.
Just a note for you guys on the r18 and si Axels. I live in Canada so we have the Acura csx which comes with a k20z2 which is identical to the rsx k20a3 engine. I used the k20z2 axles with my dx-g hubs no problems
So, the non-Type S CSX must have hubs that fit the smaller splines. Good to know.
Good tip on the 'summer-proof' shift knob. Another one that works in AZ summers is the Skunk2.
In highschool I kept an old facecloth in my car on hot summer days to put over the shift knob for driving lol
New to the channel, loving the real life, budget friendly content can you do some segments on the 10th gen
Interesting video, my dad has the same Civic and I always wanted to see videos on it.
there are so many variables in a race, driver weight, shifting technique, tires, wheels, how good the specific engine is in that exact car as no two engines are the same
Gray video and knowledge sharing!! Thanks guys!!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
good show boys
Glad to hear your in az
love these coupe civics!
Little tip for the power steering bleed when its dry, hook up your remote starter and pull the fuel pump fuse fill the resevoir up until its full and crank the engine a few times to get fluid pumped through the pump itself and let the air purge for a second and then repeat, after the fluid starts to even itself out turn the steering wheel lock to lock until the resevoir stops pumping air bubbles. Hook everything back up and bleed as per usual. Helps alot with the first start up causing so much foam. PS Loving this channel glad i stumbled upon you guys the honesty and straight to problem solving with you guys is great keep it up you guys got yourself another subscriber
Also I realize there was no issues here with the civic but ive learned my lesson before on some subarus so thought i would mention
I would love to see a 15+ TLX K24w7 and the DCT 8 speed swapped in to something light like a fit or a civic
Love your videos
Great build
Great video
'Project Dad Mobile' LOL. That's a good description of my TSX too
Just wondering if there is any immobilizer issues with this swap??
glad to find my car getting swapped been searching everywhere to see if it was possible to swap an automatic 8th gen r18 to a k series with a manuel trans and you basically just answered all my questions 🎉 tired of people saying to just get an si when their literally over 14k where i live but guess what ? i can pick k20’s and k24’s up like candy for a mild 3-700$ where im at so it’s literally looking like the best option is just to swap the car i already have instead of finding a new car to swap cause even basic hatches are going for like 5-6k in my area now it’s almost not worth it to even buy a new honda of any sort unless it’s totaled people want 6-7 k for a car with 350k miles like what??? so yup just gonna pick me up a k series and manual trans with everything else i need and get it done lol
Amazing video. Did yall ever get air conditioning to work in the K24 car?
Some of your better editing. Please keep this up !!!!
Thank you, appreciate it!
You are awesome guys! Keep doing it...cheers from 🇵🇦
J series for sure but J30AC If you can get your hands on one. J30AC is maybe not a great business decision, but it would be a ton of fun!
Hi VA, thanks for all the information about the swap, due to limited resources just need to know if the FN2 Type R ecu RSP-E02 compatible or would work on the swap? Would appreciate your input cheers!
I have an R18 and I would like to swap to a k20 or k24 what exactly do you need for the swap apart from the engine and gearbox?
Scott's cat toy comment got my puppies attention 😂😂😂
Love the Content 😎
Ahahahah! Scot has many talents including dog whisperer.
I have a question, is this a project budget build to just have fun? Because there’s a lot of cheap stuff being put into this motor for instance cheap power steering fluid, rsx power steering line hose, stock CAI.
I would like to see all of those engines in this chassis. Same with the k20/23 hybrid you were playing with earlier in the year. Or if you get really wild mate the whole K23 to a J series transmission and swap that into the 8th gen. (IIRC the k23 was supposed to use the same transmissions as the v6/J series)
Nice numbers, especially that torque
Indeed! It's beefy!
He was at like 175ftlb? That's nothing lol. My L15 makes about 300 with a simple ots tune.
@@dingleberries360 who asked?
Badass!!
Any chances you guys will do a 2021 TLX turbo engine swap in that civic
I'm about to do this exact swap so hopefully mine works out just as well as this!
How much would that cost or should i just buy a new car lol
@@GodisGood941 its looking like its gonna cost about 4k-5k total JUST to get it swapped and running so honestly probably would have been better to just get another car lol
@@jorjicostava1727 yeah ima just buy a new car then cuz atp thats not even with tuning or anything and not to mention the mods i would want to do like wheels etc
So did you guys use a k series k member subframe?
did you have the stock 5 speed hooked up to the k24 or a 6spd?
Any Honda specific shops in Az y’all recommend for performance?
Very random question but I have a 09 Tsx and I’d like to swap in a s2000 cluster do you think if I was to make an adapter harness to make it plug into the tsx dash harness would it function properly or would something need to be done?
My guess is no. I believe there will be a problem with CAN communication. It may throw a communication code on the computer and the temp gauge won't work.
K20c! Civic would be a certified ripper!
Yeah, it would!
my fd1 is on its way rn, it will come with the r18, you thing there is a difference in doing the swap? since its a rhd. "btw I'm from guatemala, central america"
You should check out Ramsey and Willie at import powerhouse near 27th Avenue and McDowell.
You know I’ve known Ramsey for over 20 years.
What’s that about the A/C and full throttle?
Hell yeah I have a 2009 Honda civic ex coupe with an r18 so I guess if something ever happens to the factory engine this is what I'm gonna do sense it's an option now haha 🤣
You are in az where's your shop at brother I need your help w my 2000 do you have a shop in Casa Grandé or east PHX
Where can I get this swap done on my 2009 Honda Civic LX Sedan? I live in Colorado.
Do you guys have a list of the parts required to build a k24 block with a k20 head?
We don't currently. The closest thing is our Budget EG engine. th-cam.com/video/_BvARfWe9zU/w-d-xo.html
which ecu?
maybe one day Si dude can slap on a k24 bottom end for some k20/24 action 💪
Hell yeah!
This is cool but I'm sad no one turbos the r18. There's a few here on TH-cam but not nearly enough.
What was the belt part # ?
Wath transmission are u using?
I have a jdm r18a car from Japan (fd1). Is it bad for tuning?
9th generation si's are the best si's❤
I had a 2008 R18 civic that was gifted to me about 18 months ago. It was a massive shitbox. It had been wrecked and repaired poorly. SRS light was blocked with a gum wrapper. Had to replace the module and program it. Took over $1500 just in parts to get it road worthy
I got a 94 civic with a k24a keeping up with 400 horse power cars
My question is what transmission was used in the EX chassis?
06-11 Civic Si was used. See everything that went into it here th-cam.com/play/PL9Qq92QbHKkjP9m4L0dpSoGMjadLldUeB.html
Nice
Can you run the k20z3 hassport mounts on a the k24 swap or what could or can I do to them if not?
Yes you can. When we do our CRV key 24 swap, will show you how to get past the wiring on that swap.
Are you in az by chance
Belt should be 7PK1400 without AC
7PK1405 tested on k20z2. And it's a bit on the lose side.
Is Your motor a k24 a1 ,or, a2
I want to see the k20c in the 8g
I totally forgot that k24s aren’t high reviving engines in order for them to rev that high 8k-9k the cams would have to be aftermarket or from a k20 aside from valve springs & retainers if I’m not wrong lol
Nah just Type-S oil pump and you're good to go
What is the length of the power steering pump hose?
31 1/4 inches from end of where the connector piece is. Don’t forget that it needs to be oriented in a specific way to bolt up to the pump. So you may have to go with a test hose to clock it correctly.
Hey Brian Guilespe, I have a question for you to shed some light on, for me please. I have a 2015 civic exl sedan cvt auto. My question is, can I swap what you did in the 07 civic in my car and also have an si killer with a/c power steering and all that would be AWESOME!! Thanks and take care.
For that year you would need to swap the 12-15 Si engine. I’m sure it could be done, but since I don’t have one of those cars, I have not done it.
@@VTECAcademy thank you very much for the info!! I just wanted an option if the cvt trans goes out on me because of the horror stories I've heard about the tranny being junk!!
@VTECAcademy if you ever get one of those, it would be awesome if you could a video on it. I would be forever grateful. I know it will be epic!!
Cool video, but at the end it kinda blew the validity of it being an “si killer”. Maybe a “stock si” killer, but the stock tune on 8th gen si is trash compared to a tune. Tune vs not tuned is a massive difference imo. My k20z3 makes 220hp tuned NA with bolt ons.
Please do a K swap First gen crv !!!!!
J series would be cool!!
It'd be like a totally different car for sure.
Enjoy the content as aways. I need a ef hatch si rear crash beam/reinforcement. If any has one forsale
Would like to see a J series swap next.
It would be so much fun.
I want those wheels!! Haha
New year project review/research
Let's go!!!
nice daily for the non si. 87x99 > 86x86
Would love to see j series in a civic
Wait, you’re in AZ?
Helps
You didn't change the tach/dash?
No.
But can you run the a/c on the k24?
Yes.
My AP2 needs some preventative maintenance
If I may ask..... why do a basemap tune if the original intent was to get it tuned anyway? And another question....was it throwing codes for the VTEC solenoid? Or was the sole purpose of changing it was because it wasn't hitting "VTEC"?
So the motor doesn't burn anything up. And the you can see that before the VTEC wouldn't kick in and he couldn't get past 6,000 rpm
@@keatonfrancisco6763 ahhhh I see I thank you for explaining
Yeah need to tune the si to be a chance
Stock still would get dusted. That 20% increase in displacement just makes more torque.
@@VTECAcademy are k series really that low on torque? That's not much. You keep saying it's beefy. I don't see that. Its a slow NA.
Hope
My center console does the same exact thing lmaoooo
What transmission does it have and what ECU?
They re using a k20z3 transmission and a 06 SI ECU, more details in the previous R18 swap series
Yep, exactly what Gil B said. Check the series here: th-cam.com/play/PL9Qq92QbHKkjP9m4L0dpSoGMjadLldUeB.html
L15b7 plz
If only I could find a k24 for 300.
Junkyard homie
@@adieselcotton I wish it was that easy. I've been and nothing of the sort near me. Dirty south sadness.
Just dirty knuckles and patience.
@@Captn_Trips where do you live?
@@adieselcotton NC
J series -because it's an easy 260+ hp stock, and sounds great too.
Agree!
Liked
Initially you poor the fluid in, have the wheels off the ground, with the engine off, turn the steering wheel all the way to the ends a few times then start the engine on and let it run
Gear shift knob has been swapped
Prolly could’ve used EP3 axles
Swap it into the ge Honda fit!
Yes!
J swap a fit to see if it fits :^)
Hey guys, i need help. My j35z4 is dead. I need swap j35z4 or j35z8 engine in perfect condition. Please help me find this engine. I'm Honda's fan from Kazakhstan
That would be tough to ship one from the US. The odyssey and Pilot are very common cars here. The engines are probably plentiful on car-part.com
I don't know who would do international shipping for something like that though.
If someone pulled up to me in an r18 chassis and smoked me in my fbo tuned fg2 they’d get a nice thumbs up from me and I’d be laughing the whole time. I love sleeper builds
Thank you 2023..
They’re not axles, they’re driveshafts. A Dana 60 or a Ford 9” is an axle.
They’re not knuckles, they’re constant velocity joints. A knuckle is part of your finger, not part of your car.
Funny how this old guy is into this stuff
J swap is what I’d like to see
Love how they say k20s will be a $1k - tsx motors for $300. Now, k20s are $2k and k24s are $1k 😣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️