Vote SADIQ Khan & PUNISH Labour?
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- In this special Islamic Thoughts contribution Dr Salman speaks to Shaykh Dr Haitham al-Haddad to answer the question on many Muslim Londoners' minds: who do we vote for in the the upcoming mayoral elections?
They discuss broader strategies for weighing individuals and candidates in light of Islamic principles, as well as practically what Muslim Londoners should do on Thursday.
0:03 The big question
0:55 One big mistake: don't vote based on emotions
1:41 The premise is wrong
2:31 Turkey's example: they wanted to punish Erdogan
3:49 Punishing by itself is not enough
4:32 Pushing one can be rewarding another
4:59 An Islamic principle
6:49 London Mayor options
7:25 How to evaluate a candidate
8:13 Evaluate the other candidates
9:09 What about independents or the Green Party?
9:39 There's a better way to punish Labour
10:15 The Muslim Vote campaign
10:45 Sadiq Khan's policies and weaknesses
12:11 LGBT ideology
12:26 A close two-horse-race
13:10 London is a hub for Palestinian demonstrations
14:10 The establishment doesn't want opposition
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Voters should think for themselves and not be influenced by religious clerics or 'community spokespersons '.
This is a very poor account of politics. I would suggest you ask someone who knows politics. Its not the realm for most islamic scholars.
Dear Imam stick to religion, leave politics. No vote no voice in a democracy
can someone please tell me what have the protests done
@adamali2886 Absolutely nothing.
إن الحكم إلا الله ☝️
Sheikh did you hear about the growing Workers Party?
Are you that stupid?
Do you honestly believe the Workers party will give out blank cheques to charities and Muslim organisations affiliated with these individuals?
Labour is the only party to give blank cheques to community leaders, grassroots Muslim organisations, in return for a Muslim vote bank.
It's all about the money.
Why would Haitham Kerching Haddad endorse the Workers party ??
The Tories whilst also following the liberal Marxist secular rainbow agenda, are only followers. If it was a case of lesser of two evils they still had some Christian values.
Sadly there all in a race to the bottom to please their corporate lobbyist masters.
The beginning of my reply was intended as a shock wake up, as so many are blind to the knif3 in our backs from our own.
They use our issues to enrich themselves and give themselves self importance.
Islam21c has banned my comments so many times.
Hopefully this one goes under the radar.
The main comments were banned a few years ago when I asked them how the money they were begging for the Uigher brothers would reach them, my comments were removed.
The small print was the donations were for raising awareness by spending on banners & protests.
Sheep they happened to protest outside the Chinese embassy at the same time Nancy Pelosi angered China by flying to Taiwan. Muslims being manipulated and used as sheep by these Greedy Misguided self appointed fools.
They're not standing for the Mayoral Election.
WHAY ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE UK LETTING A MERE 4 MILLION MUSLIMS INFLUENCE OUR COUNTRY SO MUCH
Sadiq khan the man who keeps a dog hes just as same as them muslim by name
Independents all the way. They may not win or have influence on policies but representing Islam is far more important. People need to know what Islam means.
Voting for anything else is being a pawn in the game.
I think English people have a clear vision of Islam. I'm sick of it, especially the Pakistanis who hurt a million girls.
It means the age of consent is nine
@@unitysprings3631 lmfao
One hand, strong punch
I don’t think punishing labour is an emotional decision. It’s a logical one based on long term changes over short term impact.
But then again...what if conservative takes away of rights to demonstrate???
@@BlueBlue23 my reply was more to the point of “emotional decisions” by our beloved sheikh. I’m personally not too apposed to voting for Sadiq in the Mayoral elections as they’re different to the general elections. And I think his policies are overall better than most of the other parties running and the greens have very little chance of winning. I would note that Sadiq khan himself is a memeber for the Jewish Labour movement which itself is a zio lobby group.
@@BlueBlue23vote independent
@BlueBlue23
If conservative win, perhaps next time labour will think twice....
If you have to choose one of the two evils, choose less evil
Do not choose any evil. Join Workers party.
Lesser of two evils are keeping in permanent chain, wake up.
Sadiq Khan the brown clown 🤡 doing the dirty work.
Sadiq Khan should have never been voted as the Mayer of London. Sadiq Khan has turned London into a hell hole.
why are you basing your vote on how much someone supports a country across the globe, its a vote for the mayor of London?? is it not, i know its terrible what's happening but yeah.
Does Islam allow voting any one who implements man made law, sovereignty is given to man?.
Yes, next you'll say we can't pick the captain of our football team.
@@wackypeace1135 where is your dhalil.? Dont be patronising. If you aren't able to have an amicable discussion then dont comment.
Does Islam allow you to vote for a Major that supports LGBTQ .....think about that .
Does Islam allow you to live in a land that continuously put us in these situations???
I disagree with the sheikh. I'm not voting Labour, nor am i helping a worse alternative. As it stands, Labour will defeat conservatives but let them without majority. We'll punish them, InshaAllah
You dare to disagree with this Guy ???
How dare you think for yourself and outside of the deceptive framework/closed narrative offered.
Who else will give out the blank cheques to charities and Muslim organisations affiliated with these individuals?
Labour is the only party to give blank cheques to community leaders, grassroots Muslim organisations, in return for a Muslim vote bank.
It's all about the money.
Why would Haitham Kerching Haddad endorse the Workers party ??
The Tories whilst also following the liberal Marxist secular rainbow agenda, are only followers. If it was a case of lesser of two evils they still had some Christian values.
Sadly there all in a race to the bottom to please their corporate lobbyist masters.
The beginning of my reply was intended as a shock wake up, as so many are blind to the knif3 in our backs from our own.
They use our issues to enrich themselves and give themselves self importance.
Islam21c has banned my comments so many times.
Hopefully this one goes under the radar.
The main comments were banned a few years ago when I asked them how the money they were begging for the Uigher brothers would reach them, my comments were removed.
The small print was the donations were for raising awareness by spending on banners & protests.
Sheep they happened to protest outside the Chinese embassy at the same time Nancy Pelosi angered China by flying to Taiwan. Muslims being manipulated and used as sheep by these Greedy Misguided self appointed fools.
Some of this reply has been copied and pasted incase the other one was deleted by islam21c.
Maybe shaykh knows something we don't know. End of the day, you want to call him whatever name you want to call him, his still muslim and it would be far worse under a non muslim
@mohammednur747 Oh, no, I'm not talking about Sadik Khan. I'm actually talking about the general election. Hence, that's why i said they will win the election.
Not voting IS a vote.
@@mohammednur747Stupids are sold to deceives.
Can someone sum up what he said
The suggestion is don’t vote Labour in GLA (vote Green Party) but reluctantly vote Sadiq Khan for the mayor, even though he’s Labour.
Why is an influential Muslim pro LGBTQIA? Is he a role model for our children?
He doesn’t represent us Muslims lol
Isnt it ethical though?
Because he's integrating into the country? More of you should try it. Or move...
@@nikkijayne4451 Integration doesn’t mean changing our religion Nikki
Here's a radical idea...how about voting for the person who will 2:08 be the best for London??? Forget religion..stop making it about Muslims
So to simply disagree with somebody's opion is Islamophobic or Racist, Utterly ridiculous statement but that is how your faith operates, Childish behaviour as the word No is not an option to you and if you dont get your own way the intimidation and violence follows, Way to go in Our democracy
Sorry sheikh your grasp on politics isn't great so you're one of those that advocate for vote Labour no matter the harm no matter how much they take us for granted
Spot on
Your opinion. Doesn't make it correct. Just another stance which could also be criticised.
Do what you feel is right
We do need to think about this. Because, if we don't vote for him, we risk that Kamini Shaitan Zionist Islamophobic Racist Tory Susan getting in!
He said the opposite of what you are saying
Look how the sheep are so easily led.
IN SHORT, VOTE SADIQ KHAN FOR LONDON MAYOR, AS THE OPPOSITION CANDIDATE WILL RESTRICT PROTESTS.
Sheikh's view makes sense.
VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹
A sheiks view should have no bearing on English politics.
This question should not be asked to an imam or s scholar - that's not their area of expertise. Even though Sadiq khan is a Muslim, he should be avoided because his party sided with genocide.
Sadiq Khan is a brown clown 🤡 doing the dirty work.
I and my family always voted for Labor party all our lives. I don't owe anything to labor party anything but Labor party owe us. I'll vote Workers Party in coming General elections. But in London election there is no Workers Party candidate for Mayor so I'll vote for Sadiq Khan reluctantly. If there was anyone from Worker's Party I would vote for him/her. Don't get put off for rewarding anyone else. I would say let it be whatever, what else could go wrong, Tories are also under pressure because of reform UK. Labor needs to understand the importance of certain communities have concerns. we have alternative and that is Workers.
Join Workers Party.
But isn't Khan a member of the Jewish Labour movement, and pro lgbtq??
VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹 HIS POLICIES ARE BETTER THAN THE REST 🎉🎉🎉
Don't vote based on emotion because.... What are the harms and benefits?
The Muslim community is becoming open minded to lgbtq by voting for Sadiq Khan who represents the lgbtq community. This is the right step for equality 👏
Is this not forbidden within Islam though?
@@gtwade101 My way of opening the eyes of his voters . Khan doesn't represent Muslims , he only represents himself . I have used reversed propaganda tactics . People should understand the candidate they are voting for .
@@gtwade101 move, if you don't like things forbidden by Islam. This is not an Islamic country.
The ruling on parliaments is that they are not allowed and they are places of Shirk and Kufr, and we see them as Thaghut because they are places of legislation and of making laws and judging by other than what Allah has sent down (the Shariah).
And the basis of parliaments and democracy is “judgment of the people for the people” and the people are the ones who legislate through their representatives who are called “parliamentarians”.
And this goes against singling out Allah alone for judging and legislating and ordering and forbidding.
Allah says:
إن الحكم إلا لله
“The judgment is for none but Allah”
Surat Al An’am 6:57
And it (judgment) is not for the people.
And Allah says:
أفحكم الجاهلية يبغون
“Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance?”
Surat al Ma’idah 5:50
And Allah says:
ولا يشرك في حكمه أحدا
“He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule.”
Surat Al Kahf 18:26
It is not for the parliament, or for the people, or for anyone.
As for the claim of the one who says that the foundation of democracy and parliaments is established upon Shura (Islamic consultation) then this is either lie and deceit or ignorance and misguidance. It is not established upon the Islamic Shura, rather it is based on legislation, and they consult amongst themselves not on those issues that are permitted, rather they consult in order to legislate laws that contradict the Shariah. And this is the reality of them.
As for the ruling on those who enter them (parliaments), then there are some details to this:
1) If he enters them and legislates man made laws which contradict the Shariah, or agrees to or is pleased with a law that contradicts the Shariah or votes for it, then this person is a Mushrik (Polytheist) Kaafir (Disbeliever), and he is not excused for ignorance or misinterpretation or (for considering it as bringing) benefits.
Allah says:
أم لهم شركاء شرعوا لهم من الدين ما لم يأذن به الله
“Or do they have partners (false gods) with Allah, who have legislated for them a religion which Allah has not allowed?”
Surat Ash Shuraa 42:21
And Allah says:
إن الحكم إلا لله
“The judgment is for none but Allah”
Surat Al An’am 6:57
And Allah says:
ولا يشرك في حكمه أحدا
“He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule.”
Surat Al Kahf 18:26
2) If he enters and swears to respect the Kufr constitution knowing that the constitution contradicts the Shariah, then this is Kufr (disbelief) and Riddah (apostasy), whether he was serious (in his oath) or not, and whether it was done for benefit or not. He has indeed committed this act of Kufr by choice, knowingly and intentionally. And he is like the one who takes an oath to respect Al Laat and Al Uzza, or takes an oath to respect the laws of the Quraish during the time of the Messenger, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
3) He does not take an oath to respect the constitution, and does not legislate or participate in legislation which contradicts the Shariah, but he rejects that and votes against it - this person is mistaken and misguided and he goes against the guidance of the Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in bringing change and reform and in establishing the Islamic State, but he is not a Kaafir even though he has taken a path of misguidance and Shirk as a path for Dawah and bringing change and reform.
Allah says:
فماذا بعد الحق إلا الضلال
“And what is after truth, except falsehood”
Surat Yunus 10:32
And we have discussed this issue in our book “Al Jam’u wa Thajreed Fee Sharh Kitaab At Tawheed” in the chapter “The call to Tawheed”, and it is the issue of the ruling on entering the parliaments”
- Shaykh ‘Alî Bin Khudayr al-Khudayr (fak’Allāhu asrahū)
Mashallah, very important information to take away and contemplate. May Allah reward you abundantly
Theocratic voting is not good
Why should radical things be brought over when it’s known to do with our country? It is not to do with our country if you don’t like what’s going on around the world why should you bring you know? Saying things and doing things? Why don’t you go over there and say and do it why do it in this country, I’m telling you what the rate you’re going on you gonna get more than what you think
The question here is not about the Islamic view on voting but something very practical in our daily lives as Londoners.
This concerns the dilemma of whether to vote for Sadiq Khan or punish labour.
I think the Sheikh has very eloquently put into words what we're all delibrating with.
His view that we need to look at the bigger picture resonates with my personal opinion and I suppose anyone else who supports the Palestinian cause.
We can use the other 2 votes to punish Labour and the Conservatives.
The third option of abstaining is ideal for those who view the process as unislamic etc but in reality will quite possibly be rewarding a candidate who may be a lot worse than Sadiq Khan.
Vote s Khan
As the Conservative candidate is terrible
It's a 2 horse race
If you vote Khan then you are voting LGBTQ as he represents the community. I'm glad Islam is becoming so open minded. Thank you for your support 🙏
VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹
This is simple child psycology, tell people what not to do and they will do the opposite.
Alhumdulilah
Sadas khan shouldn't be mayor,its all fixed
I’ve recorded every part of this and put it all over different medias. This is like some radical thing being said why are you talking like
Keep listening to this man he knows nothing about politics 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
100% dear Shiekh
I disagree respectfully. But he’s wiser than me so I’m listening
VOTE FOR BRIAN ROSE FOR MAYOR OF LONDON...I WILL VOTE TODAY FOR MR BRIAN ROSE BECAUSE OF HIS GOOD POLICIES AND STANCE FOR JUSTICE 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Vai. We. Are. Not. Recvespaper. For. Wots
May allah swt bless you sheik
Bless him for what? Stupidity.
Ameen
Sorry
National Security Act 2023
2023 CHAPTER 32
An Act to make provision about threats to national security from espionage, sabotage and persons acting for foreign powers; about the extra-territorial application of Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007; for the registration of certain arrangements with, and activities of, specified persons and foreign powers; about the award of damages in proceedings relating to national security and the payment of damages at risk of being used for the purposes of terrorism; about the availability of legal aid to persons connected with terrorism; to amend the Terrorism Act 2000; and for connected purposes.
[11th July 2023]
Be it enacted by the King’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-
Part 1Espionage, sabotage and persons acting for foreign powers
All mayor's and people voting for other foreign power need removing from the government and power all people that support this should have their citizenship removed this is a breach of national security laws
Sheikh..stick to religious matters please.. ur analysis is poor. Voting should be done as a matter of conscion. Independent supporting Palestinians gets my vote regardless of whether he wins or not!
Are you that stupid?
Do you honestly believe the Workers party will give out blank cheques to charities and Muslim organisations affiliated with these individuals?
Labour is the only party to give blank cheques to community leaders, grassroots Muslim organisations, in return for a Muslim vote bank.
It's all about the money.
Why would Haitham Kerching Haddad endorse the Workers party ??
The Tories whilst also following the liberal Marxist secular rainbow agenda, are only followers. If it was a case of lesser of two evils they still had some Christian values.
Sadly there all in a race to the bottom to please their corporate lobbyist masters.
The beginning of my reply was intended as a shock wake up, as so many are blind to the knif3 in our backs from our own.
They use our issues to enrich themselves and give themselves self importance.
Islam21c has banned my comments so many times.
Hopefully this one goes under the radar.
The main comments were banned a few years ago when I asked them how the money they were begging for the Uigher brothers would reach them, my comments were removed.
The small print was the donations were for raising awareness by spending on banners & protests.
Sheep they happened to protest outside the Chinese embassy at the same time Nancy Pelosi angered China by flying to Taiwan. Muslims being manipulated and used as sheep by these Greedy Misguided self appointed fools
VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹
La hola wala kuwata, fear Allah subhana wata ala. If you are truthful why do you delete my comments.
Rebutt them if you are truthful.
All candidates other than Sadiq Khan will be worse. At least this man “Mr Khan” is NOT islamophbi and ensures equality and justice for all, others will not. Be careful. Be wise. We do not agree on every policy Sadiq Khan made, specifically his motoring and traffic policy in London is but still we vote for him strategically, be smart don’t follow your emotions.
Vote is haram
Vote for a pro LGBTQ mayor 😂🤦
Why his he talking who is this man this is not British 🙈
How can you vote for someone who openly and boldly supports lgbt, shaikh you lost all the respect what I had for you!!!
This is known as asking a question with all the answers provided. Laughable
There are elements of this conversation that are deeply flawed.
Firstly the Mayoral election isn't close at all. Sadiq Khan has a 22pt lead over Susan Hall in the polls. So it isn't a two horse race.
London is very left wing, even at the last GE in 2019, when Labour had there worse result since 1935. Labour still won 49 out of 73 parliament seats in London, when they did really poorly across the rest of the country so the premise of this conversation is flawed.
As for allowing demonstrations only the Met Police can ban the demonstration on grounds of public safety, neither the Mayor nor the Home Secretary who are in charge of Policing in London can't.
Even if the Police did ban demonstrations they can be challenged straight away in the courts and overturned.
The freedom of speech and association is a cornerstone of a Liberal democracy, to ban it requires an exceptionally high bar of evidence to say it'll lead to violence.
The Tories say it to play to their base, you need to see past that and research both issues a lot better. Otherwise this conversation will mislead people.
SUE SADIQ KHAN
"might be upset". May Allah protect us from these people
There is no God called Allah
Sorry Shaykh, you're wrong on this. Your analysis on this wrong.
You're thinking is too short term. Politicians don't do anything for you if you vote for them no matter what. You only need to look at Brexit and UKIP and what they managed to achieve.
Vote for the person who you think will work in the best interests of London and londoners. Please do not be influenced by somebody ih Istambul, who seems to be obsessed with punishment. When do make representation as to what happens in Turkey? Are you allowed to vote in Turkey?
Sheikh is from London
.. what are you talking about???
These shaikh doesn't know anything politics .... just ask them about ablution and how to do Istinja etc .....
Every Muslim should vote...this is absolutely nonsense bonkers. EVERY MUSLIM VOTE for anyone except labour and conservative. We have the power to disrupt the government. We have the power to make them aware that we matter.
Let's punish them all vote Independent
Us English won’t condemn Isreal either… and we outnumber u by millions
Get khan out he his not a london man and a london mayor should be a real cockney so khan out out out
Waste of time watching those men like this, so call Western sheikh. Those so-called sheikh are in lost too. Waste of time watching those as we all know those politically ignorant sheikh. Just because they recite some Quran aya doesn't make their view right as so ignorant
VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹
Why don't Workers Party put up a candidate?