Seed of corruption is only meant to get dots up on multiple targets in BGs, and I'd even swap to Vile Taint for the same reason. And if you do that, then grab the talent that makes agony give you 1.1x more soul shard chance. BG build is getting the 2 dots up on everyone and spamming malefic rapture. Put UA up on kill targets, soul rot an enemy in the crowd, swap UA pvp talent with observer, and probably go shadow bolt but only use it when it props for insta cast however you could still use drain soul for execute on kill targets.
I really wanted to like Wither. I thought I was 100% set on using it. Then I gave Soul Harvester a shot and I can't go back. It's insane. Huge spread damage, Corruption pumps, and then you have Shadow Bolt and Raptures hitting like a truck. The Haunt into a guaranteed instacast Shadow Bolt is nutty. If nothing changes (I think nerfs are coming), I believe all Affy Locks will have to go Soul Harvester at the highest competitive levels.
Nah if they nerf it affy going to be dead for me tbh everything else is pretty broken they need to let affy be great for a bit. I feel like my skill expression with affy is nice. Good affy vs bad u see a huge difference.
I theory crafted a really sick build I don’t use haunt or wither and I still out damage other aff locks in bgs and arenas at least people playing currently. I might switch it up and see how it goes with this build since I have enough data on my theory craft build with average damage in both arenas and bgs
Thanks mander! I’ve followed for a while and I finally made the choice to main warlock this expansion. Loving it so far. I was a priest main for several expansions
It is simple if aff is doing same dmg on all targets and that dmg is the same as other classes on single target it gets nerfed first week of rated. As for the video and content, amazing great effort thank you
just a correction on your shadow embrace take on shadow bolt vs drain soul. Although drain soul stacks shadow embrace to 4 stacks, shadow bolt stacks to 2 but shadow embrace debuff is twice that of drain soul. So with haunt stacking 1 shadow embrace debuff, shadow bolt actually stacks shadow embrace much quicker than drain soul for the same effectiveness.
Great guide man! Just one question, I'm I missing something or how are you getting all dots up from UA and Curse of the satyr? I've been mimicking your build but can't get them on the target quick like that.
If seen people do some nutttyyy things with the wither build… but me I will NOT be playing it , soul harvester is just wayyy to fun for me. Tried wither, it does good damage but my priority damn just amazing. I love it
@@ohyeahmander Soul Link is "10% of of all damage you take is taken by your pet instead." What do you think about that alone being the reason for having pet out?
@@ohyeahmander sorry to blow you up, but the wither damage from this build is absolutely insane. I can hide and do more damage than my soul harvester / shadow bolt build.
Nice guide, i play afli warlock another way. But this guide really nice! Man, can you explane how do u use just one Unstable Afliction and get 4 dots at one moment? How it work? I have same talents like you, but it didnt work(
is anyone confused by how he casts his first two spells Unstable Affliction and then Curse of the Satyr and has a bunch of dots on his targets already? he cast two spells and I cant find anywhere how it happens like that im so confused
@@ProLikeJesus3 agony just does more damage and give u more soul shards and with wither you have blackened soul stacks which makes it so when u rapture you do more damage
@@SIIKAP1 you mean sacking the pet? If so when you change any talents or pvp talents while you pet is sacked it’ll get rid of the buff so you have to sacrifice your pet after you change talents
I think you need to explain the rotation a bit more, you're just speeding through it like everyone played lock before.... like how is Curse of the satyr your full dot? Does it auto apply agony?
@@erichelton2751 yes satyr applies agony and wither with the pvp talent jinx I explained earlier in the video but will try to go more In depth with the rotation in the next guide
@@ohyeahmander np, just remember a lot of your subs don't know how to play the class that is why they are probably watching! Slowing down a little would not hurt..... After watching your guide, its helped me a lot, I can burst people down, survivability is tough though... if its double melee, I just get blasted into next tuesday without being able to get full dots up. Hopefully you can make a kiting/how to survive guide soon!
@@jimmy8693 I think you run the same build but this is a wither build and I’m running soul harvester now for the past week or so. So I my new build has not changed since the nerf no
You are wrong on drainsoul it's stacks at 2 % 4 times with drain soul but 4% at 2 stacks for SB... so at end of day it is 8% with both but with imp haunt it gives 4% when you have sb so you fully stacks with one sb and 1 haunt. Instant cast sb is way better than 1/2 cast drainsoul
The fact that you think wither build is better than SH shows your lack of experience with SH build.. it's massively superior (even though its burst instead of dot rot)
@@ohyeahmander What about for blitz? you think hellcaller will be better for spread pressure and pad damage? or will soul harvester be better for the bursty shadow bolts?
@@idah170 my personal opinion is bursty damage to actually kill a person is more valuable than spread pressure that slowly rots them down. A healer is always going to make your dots in large groups "feel" like it's not doing much although it will give you bigger damage on details/scoreboad, i think that's honestly less valuable than actually taking a player out of the fight. Being able to burst down a healer thats low or a priority target feels more impactful, for me at least! Though I do love the stat padding of aoe dots and being top of damage, it doesn't feel like I'm really doing much haha.
Also, here is the insta shadowbolt build, that I've been talking about in your other video CkQAA81jxQD71lYhS/t8p6HgAYhZmZmZGaMbGGzGzMMLDAAAYmxMbMjZZmZmFzMMAgZmtllxwYWMTjZmhtMbZYZGAAAAAAAAgx2MA
Big UP my first ever season playing Affli and u made me feel confi in pvp situations
Seed of corruption is only meant to get dots up on multiple targets in BGs, and I'd even swap to Vile Taint for the same reason. And if you do that, then grab the talent that makes agony give you 1.1x more soul shard chance. BG build is getting the 2 dots up on everyone and spamming malefic rapture. Put UA up on kill targets, soul rot an enemy in the crowd, swap UA pvp talent with observer, and probably go shadow bolt but only use it when it props for insta cast however you could still use drain soul for execute on kill targets.
I really wanted to like Wither. I thought I was 100% set on using it. Then I gave Soul Harvester a shot and I can't go back. It's insane. Huge spread damage, Corruption pumps, and then you have Shadow Bolt and Raptures hitting like a truck. The Haunt into a guaranteed instacast Shadow Bolt is nutty. If nothing changes (I think nerfs are coming), I believe all Affy Locks will have to go Soul Harvester at the highest competitive levels.
Nah if they nerf it affy going to be dead for me tbh everything else is pretty broken they need to let affy be great for a bit. I feel like my skill expression with affy is nice. Good affy vs bad u see a huge difference.
I think for arenas, Hellcarer is superior, but for BG's Soul Harvester is better IMO.
I theory crafted a really sick build I don’t use haunt or wither and I still out damage other aff locks in bgs and arenas at least people playing currently. I might switch it up and see how it goes with this build since I have enough data on my theory craft build with average damage in both arenas and bgs
@@iVibeBruh Ye well what else a warlocks have. We are a punching bag to everybody, playing against melee comp is a joke with so little gap openers.
Thanks mander! I’ve followed for a while and I finally made the choice to main warlock this expansion. Loving it so far. I was a priest main for several expansions
nice glad to hear that
just started to get into lock play and this is perfect great video man!
this was really well thought out, the part about aerna targeting has baffled me (mainly a pveR) forever, yet you cleared it up. thanks!
glad i could help
Hell yeah man! This is a dope video! Keep it up and you’ll grow even more in no time 💪🏼
thanks, hopefully i do grow more
Holy s***. Amazing guide. I will keep following you here on TH-cam and also on twitch. Literally just found you randomly. Keep up the awesome vids❤🤘
love to hear that, thanks
It is simple if aff is doing same dmg on all targets and that dmg is the same as other classes on single target it gets nerfed first week of rated. As for the video and content, amazing great effort thank you
Thanks a lot for the guide, is awesome! Would ve good a guide about facing double melee, tips for kitting them, etc...
@@yeste2810 yeah maybe when the season starts I’ll look into that
Thanks for the vid man! Hoping for a demo guide soon
Where have you been? I've been looking for good lock content and you are fantastic! thank you for helping us.
thanks
Leveling my lock today, great timing!
haha nice
just a correction on your shadow embrace take on shadow bolt vs drain soul. Although drain soul stacks shadow embrace to 4 stacks, shadow bolt stacks to 2 but shadow embrace debuff is twice that of drain soul. So with haunt stacking 1 shadow embrace debuff, shadow bolt actually stacks shadow embrace much quicker than drain soul for the same effectiveness.
great guide thank you! Trufigcd possible? its really hard to see what spells you are using even on 0.5 speed. Please consider, ty
yeah i actually downloaded it yesterday, ill be using it in my videos from now on
Thank you for a great guide!
np
Right on time! Ty
@@j27b np
Great guide man! Just one question, I'm I missing something or how are you getting all dots up from UA and Curse of the satyr? I've been mimicking your build but can't get them on the target quick like that.
PVP talents Jinx applies corruption/wither and agony when you apply satyr or exhaustion
@@ohyeahmander Awesome, thanks man! Must have missed that one.
Thanks a lot for the guide. Excellent. You have a new follower
Nice work. Keep up the good content.
What are your thoughts on going crit instead of haste?
Great guide GG! Do you recommand any good race for warlock alliance? Nelf, Velf, human or dark iron?
id say for anything that can be nightelf thats the best so nelf prolly best for lock
V elf to juke melees
But overall n elf is better
@@flavioromano8754 & @ohyeahmander Thank you for your replies!
Hey mander - how do you prioritize fearing? We do need to set up kills with fear or just focus on pumping?
@@purebreeze1 as demo and destro I’m fearing a ton but for affliction it requires a lot more damage globals so fear is a lower priority
@@ohyeahmander ok great thank you!
keep it up plz! appreciate the content
Btw, i miss the soul rot + 50 stacks of drain life meta.
@@meta3323 yeah lots of healing
If seen people do some nutttyyy things with the wither build… but me I will NOT be playing it , soul harvester is just wayyy to fun for me. Tried wither, it does good damage but my priority damn just amazing. I love it
@@iVibeBruh that’s respectable
question for ya! if you take 10% less dmg through soul link, why not play with pet up instead of sacrificing it?
soul leech is an absorb you get even if your pet is sacked
@@ohyeahmander Soul Link is "10% of of all damage you take is taken by your pet instead." What do you think about that alone being the reason for having pet out?
Also, remember you can soul swap haunt for that extra damage on the second target.
oh nice i was wondering that, good to know
@@ohyeahmander If you're streaming, tag it and ill jump in. id love to watch some games.
@@Juiceßox www.twitch.tv/ohyeahmander
@@ohyeahmander sorry to blow you up, but the wither damage from this build is absolutely insane. I can hide and do more damage than my soul harvester / shadow bolt build.
@@Juiceßox yeah i like it a lot
drain life gives you 36% damage reduction against targets when fully stacked with the essence drain pvp talent and its essential imo
yeah that can be good too
Thanks dude!
what is this map addon? looks awesome xD
I use Leatrix Maps
@@ohyeahmander same for minimap? cant find an option for customize it
Nice guide, i play afli warlock another way. But this guide really nice! Man, can you explane how do u use just one Unstable Afliction and get 4 dots at one moment? How it work? I have same talents like you, but it didnt work(
oh, its pvp Jinx tallent. i find it
ok if you have any other questions lmk
Since affliction seems strong what would be some good comps you guess? Same as other expansions?
Depends also on how the other classes are performing..???
Yes of course but it’s only speculations I’m asking for.
Does Curse of the Satyr work with Amplify Curse? Like the target cannot crit and also the spell casting time increases even more?
@@petrzurek5713 yes
is anyone confused by how he casts his first two spells Unstable Affliction and then Curse of the Satyr and has a bunch of dots on his targets already? he cast two spells and I cant find anywhere how it happens like that im so confused
nvm pvp talents smh
I never understood the agony stacks and whither stacks. How does that work?
@@ProLikeJesus3 agony just does more damage and give u more soul shards and with wither you have blackened soul stacks which makes it so when u rapture you do more damage
sacrifice talent always bugs out for me. it’ll always be inactive and thus useless as I don’t hace the pet ability or extra damage
@@SIIKAP1 you mean sacking the pet? If so when you change any talents or pvp talents while you pet is sacked it’ll get rid of the buff so you have to sacrifice your pet after you change talents
@@ohyeahmander yes that’s it. Thank you, i’ll try this out and see if it was the culprit
I think you need to explain the rotation a bit more, you're just speeding through it like everyone played lock before.... like how is Curse of the satyr your full dot? Does it auto apply agony?
@@erichelton2751 yes satyr applies agony and wither with the pvp talent jinx I explained earlier in the video but will try to go more In depth with the rotation in the next guide
@@ohyeahmander np, just remember a lot of your subs don't know how to play the class that is why they are probably watching! Slowing down a little would not hurt..... After watching your guide, its helped me a lot, I can burst people down, survivability is tough though... if its double melee, I just get blasted into next tuesday without being able to get full dots up. Hopefully you can make a kiting/how to survive guide soon!
@@erichelton2751 yeah your probably right, i might make a beginner friendly video soon like the base of warlock in general
my macro doesnt cast demonic circle weird
Can u help me
Anything change since nerfs? Prob not?
@@jimmy8693 I think you run the same build but this is a wither build and I’m running soul harvester now for the past week or so. So I my new build has not changed since the nerf no
Great warlock guide bruh
@@xxxTheBlazingShogun tyty
I don't understand how the new soul swap works. It doesn't copy dots, but dmg?
@@eugenesternin6039 it does copy all dots on the target you soul swapped
@@ohyeahmander so, the same as in the DF?
@@eugenesternin6039 yeah it works the same way, only thing that changed is that its a pvp talent
You are wrong on drainsoul it's stacks at 2 % 4 times with drain soul but 4% at 2 stacks for SB... so at end of day it is 8% with both but with imp haunt it gives 4% when you have sb so you fully stacks with one sb and 1 haunt. Instant cast sb is way better than 1/2 cast drainsoul
@@patricksutfin9374 ok thanks for telling me will look into it
The fact that you think wither build is better than SH shows your lack of experience with SH build.. it's massively superior (even though its burst instead of dot rot)
I'm new to lock, but soul harvester feels way better to me idk why
yeah i think other one is more fun but wither imo is better
@@ohyeahmander What about for blitz? you think hellcaller will be better for spread pressure and pad damage? or will soul harvester be better for the bursty shadow bolts?
@@idah170 my personal opinion is bursty damage to actually kill a person is more valuable than spread pressure that slowly rots them down. A healer is always going to make your dots in large groups "feel" like it's not doing much although it will give you bigger damage on details/scoreboad, i think that's honestly less valuable than actually taking a player out of the fight. Being able to burst down a healer thats low or a priority target feels more impactful, for me at least! Though I do love the stat padding of aoe dots and being top of damage, it doesn't feel like I'm really doing much haha.
@@Stygiophobic For sure! my monkey brain likes big numbers though lmao
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jesus christ that combat text how the heck do u even see in arena lol
the floating combat text got messed up with my addon im trying to fix it lol
Also, here is the insta shadowbolt build, that I've been talking about in your other video
CkQAA81jxQD71lYhS/t8p6HgAYhZmZmZGaMbGGzGzMMLDAAAYmxMbMjZZmZmFzMMAgZmtllxwYWMTjZmhtMbZYZGAAAAAAAAgx2MA
thanks
SH is way better, its not even close
Love everything about this guide but your mog. So overused and childish, warlocks have the MOST awesome mogs in game man. :D
His mog is the best part of it, wdym??????