FYI: Your girlfriend would've been BALLING her eyes 👀 out if this was SUB!!! From the moment Floch brought Erwin... your girl would've cried 😭, Hange's story how she survived... tears 😢. Erwin's last word to Levi... "ARIGATOU"... tears 😢. Thanks to DUB... it's NOT as IMPACTFULL!!!
I have a question for both of you (I had issues joining the Patreon, so I couldn't ask there..) Do you think Bertholdt deserved to die? If so, did he deserved to die like that?
@@terra3673 nah it was the right decision. i used to think that but now i realize Erwin died in the perfect way. Hes lived through hell enough, bringing him back as the collosal would be a curse.
@@Mitsuzen. well Levi realized Armin had bigger dreams then Erwin and also that he let Erwin die because he already told him to give up on his dreams and die fighting the beast titan and Erwin had accepted that fate
@@meib9412 fair point. but I kinda see it that Erwin's dream ends with the truth at the basement while Armin's dream keeps going beyond that into the outer world. But I guess it's up to your own interpretation of why Levi saved Armin and not Erwin in the end
Rip Moblit, honestly one of the most competent soldiers humanity has ever seen. Let's list some achievements: 1. Literally saved his commander by thinking of a solution in about three seconds. 2. He's survived for at least five years making him a veteran soldier and has killed many titans. 3. Participated in the battle against the Interior Police
Not to mention he was the method to Hange's madness. Without him she would almost certainly have died MANY times... He was always there by her side to look out for her.
I think Erwin will choose Armin and Armin will choose Erwin. Erwin: He let Armin lead the search in the walls and compliments him. This means that he considers Armin's potential. Erwin also accepted his fate and said "We die trusting the living who give meaning in our sacrifice". For Armin, of course, he respects Erwin so much. He knew that he will never be as good as him. Until now, we can observe how Armin still compares himself to Erwin when it comes to decision-making. They both have amusing dreams. They are both ready to sacrifice their dreams for the sake of humanity. They are both ready to give the syringe to each other if they had a chance. What makes them different is their leadership. Erwin has intelligence with guilt while Armin has intelligence with doubts.
Erwin's dream was an obsession, created by the guilt from his father death. It is a destructive dream that made him sacrifice everyone around him. So giving up that obsession freed Erwin.
If Erwis was capable to talk he scream for the syringe, his last tough was the question that never can answer, and recap some episodes ago, he say that every time when is about to die the memories of his father came back to his mind
@@josephmenasandoval3419 as what he said, he already accepted his death. Accepting death means giving up on his dreams and die. Plus, he'll prioritize the syringe to Armin since he refers to him as the "chain of command"
@@misssecre Chain of command isn't Armin specifically. It just means follow the one in charge, as Armin was in charge then. Recruits follow captains, captains follow commanders, commanders follow the premier. Thats a chain of command.
The rift is mainly born of making things about who Erwin is. Generally speaking they treat him like an unicorn deboid of what even makes him a character with some complexity
@@bfedezl2018 the fanbase maybe, the show doesn't make it subtle how morally grey erwin is at times. I agree though that Erwin fans act like he's Eldian jesus who wouldve solved all the problems efficiently
Here’s the thing. IF they could still get to *THE* attack, Erwin would have ended the whole show right there. But I don’t know if they could have gotten there without Armin. I think Eren would have gone off the deep end much faster without Armin. Bottom line, Armin was Eren’s choice, and BIG BIG SPOILERS he is the one who gets the last call in the end.
You can see exactly how close Mikasa and Eren are with Armin in this episode. They were both fully prepared to fight Levi and all of the remaining Scouts if that meant Armin got to survive.
@@Jellysfrickingstuff just the $20 tier has all the episodes I believe. $10 has the episodes we have on youtube but uncut and ad-free but no further episodes
You can also feel how levi and erwin were close, this was the hardest lost on him with his friend's in the OVA, you can feel he's broken making this decision.
The ironic thing about this decision, is that after all of the arguments on who would be better for humanity - none of that mattered. The decision was ultimately made purely based on emotions by all sides. Eren and Mikasa wanted to bring their friend back, disregarding humanity’s future. No matter what reasons they brought up, their connection to Armin was the deciding factor. And on the other hand, Levi, who was trusted to make a logical decision on the fly, chose Armin only because of his connection to Erwin. Levi didn’t decide who will live, he decided who will die. He saw how enslaved Erwin was to his dream. How it took over his life. What would’ve happened if he reached the basement? He doesn’t even know. His life has one end goal, and there’s nothing after that. So Levi decided to set him free, to let him pass on. I think it’s valid to discuss who would’ve been the better choice, but personally I think the point of that scene is that it doesn’t even matter.
iya. menurutku, jika levi menggunakan logikanya, dia akan memilih Erwin. armin memang cukup jenius (walau kurasa levi tak peduli itu).. tapi armin pilihan yang terlalu beresiko karena erwin adalah tokoh yang sangat amat berpengaruh di antara para prajurit bahkan semua manusia di dalam dinding.. Erwin cukup mampu mencegah perpecahan diantara orang-orang. jikalau memang erwin nantinya merasa hampa setelah menggapai mimpinya, aku yakin dia akan tetap menjadi komandan yang hebat karena pasti dia akan terus mengingat para prajurit yang gugur
Yup. But also ultimately if we look at if from the reader’s POV, Armin’s survival makes sense since it’s passing the torch to the next generation and all that. Narratively speaking.
it was an emotional decision on his part true and he did it so that his friend could be laid to rest and no longer be forced to play the role of devil that everybody viewed him as, however it also makes sense from Levi's perspective. When comparing their dreams and taking into account what Kenny said to him he realised that once Erwin had seen the truth in the basement there was a chance he simply would lose interest beyond that. The dream he was a slave to was in reach and Erwin himself admitted it. Everything he did, all the plans he came up with and all the steps forward they made thanks to him was in service of reaching this dream so once he had achieved it there was no clear plan beyond that. Maybe he would simply lose that certain aspect that pushed him forward and made him such a great commander since in his mind he already got what he wanted, there was no further reason to try as hard. Meanwhile with Armin he had his eyes set outside the walls. He has proven that he has humanities interest at heart as well. His dream takes him further than just the basement and the truth but to the seas and ultimately they need someone with the drive to go further rather than a commander who might possibly phone it in.
@@veraaurelis8931 well Erwin is only few years older actually, and eventhough they do not know it yet, years won't matter. when dealing with humans Armin is not that skillful given his age and nature.
Levi was dead set in his decision to save Erwin before Erwin raised his hand and asked the question that got his father killed. Erwin has been plagued with guilt about that and the deaths of his comrades as much as he has been obsessed with the truth of the world. So Levi let himself be guided by emotions for once and let Erwin rest without him having to experience more guilt.
And as much as it pained Levi, when he saw Erwin use his last breath to bat his hand away before the injection, he still honored his Commander's wish. He knew Erwin was giving it up. But he still respected that. Even if it pained him to do so.
@@bfedezl2018 he did not refuse it, nor accept it. I mean he's not even aware of what's happening around him at that time as we was on the verge of death. The state he was in was like remembering abt the past which was that specific moment: where his father was teaching at the class then Erwin raised his hand to his teacher, his father, and asked: what if theres someone outside the walls blah blah. That's why he raised his hand like that, cuz he was in that moment remembering abt the time he raised his hand asking abt titans outside the walls.
F in the chat for Erwin, Bertholt, and last but not least Moblit. RIP Moblit, gone to soon. So soon that most people don't even talk about his death. It's a tragedy that we didn't get to see more from him. I kinda shipped him and Hange.
@@messingmusic_and_animation why? Bertholdt is such a tragic and underrated character. Him joining the warriors was his only way of getting treatment for his Dad's cancer. Reiner and Annie both joined for different reasons but Bertholdt did so to help his dad. Too bad his dad stopped receiving Healthcare after Bertholdt failed the mission and eventually died.
My favorite part of this is how Montana from the very beginning has been quick to shield her eyes from the more brutal scenes but here, as Armin crunches down on Bertholts head, she looks disgusted with hatred towards Bertholt and never looks away lol.
I think what makes this episode so interesting is the fact that you can make countless arguments for either Armin or Erwin being a good choice. You can argue that while Ewrin was the more experienced commander, his goal only reached the basement, while Armin's reached the sea and the whole outside world. Or that while Armin is young and smart, no one can touch the hearts of their soldiers quite as well as Erwin. It's so fascinating that the dilemma in this episode is still talked about even years after it was released.
You actually can't. Armin is objectively better, and you can only make a few arguments for Erwin that still get overtaken by counterpoints. Erwin was actually a terrible commander throughout the duration of the show, assuming he even was all that great off-screen.
@@Voidaken how was erwin terrible? He got the scouts so far with limited knowledge . I'm open to people disagreeing with me... But if you're gonna make a claim as bold as " Erwin was trash" then you better have at least a couple points to back it up.
@@MadeByIsmael Don't put words in my mouth. If you're going to quote me, quote it right. And I didn't even disagree with you; you jumped in to disagree with me, so let's not paint this as I'm on the offensive. Erwin was terrible throughout the show because every single tactic of his backfired and cost the entirety of his sector. Not a single one of his plans were successful while commanding on-screen. If it weren't for X Deus Ex Machina, Erwin would have gotten everybody killed, including himself, for nothing.
@@Voidaken Erwin was a terrible commander?? As opposed to? Shadis? Where most of his expeditions yielded no net positive results. Hange? (spoilersss) There was a literal civil war and a mutiny under her command. Im not opposed to any character, hell I love even characters like Floch and Kenny. But you aint gotta push someone down to justify the other choice. If you have caught up to the recent episodes, characters wishing for Erwin being present is a testament to the man's competence and dependable nature.
@@rahulrahulrake As opposed to irrelevant. You don't negate a character's stats because someone may be worse. Hange(and Erwin) is a commander, not a political leader. Civil war did not erupt under her authority. You "ain't gotta," but I can and did it anyway. There aren't "countless" arguments for Erwin. Just a few. If Erwin has to be pushed down to make that point, then that's the way it has to be. Armin and Hange's insecurity in themselves is not a testament to Erwin. That's like saying Mikasa wishing Eren is present is a testament to Eren's "competence and dependable nature." Clearly he's showcased the opposite.
The lack of music throughout the episode right up to the end where the syringe is used is still my absolute favourite part of the episode and never fails to make me sob. When that music kicks in as Bertholdt is eaten, it just elevates the emotions of the already tense scene a thousand fold.
I get that, but for me I didn’t feel bad for him, but it’s not like I celebrated his death either. At the time I just felt like he had this coming. I kinda got annoyed at him for asking for help tho after what he’s done.
@@gabecajamarca He called for help because he had a memory lapse and forgot he was trying to kill them. He didn't have it coming, he was forced to do this when he was a child and had no choice
@@salchief4052 oh I get that, what I was saying was how I felt when I first saw this. Those were my initial feelings and we didn’t really know his past at that point. I get that I didn’t make that clear enough tho my bad
That one second initially when Bertholdt sees his friends nearby and automatically smiles because surely his comrades will come to help him and then remembers and starts screaming. Oof.
It's just that the effect in the voice for the dub makes it hard to distinguish, even in the sub it's kinda hard with the distortion. I wish they could've had Reiner or Bertholt call him by his name too so everyone could notice.
You can tell Erwin wanted to train Admin to become his strategist or even replacement eventually. He wanted Armin to make all the calls this mission. He knew his uses were limited how he was. So Erwin was already thinking of a replacement for himself in Armin in a way I always thought.
Of course Beast Titan thinks he's on the "good side." You do realize that everybody thinks they're the good guys in their life, right? Nobody chooses to be evil.
@@andrewlynch4126 They justify the wrong because there's a "good" reason for doing the wrong. So nobody is choosing to be evil because even when they are evil, they have convinced themselves that they are the good guys from their narrative.
That moment when Bertholdt got eating is so painful and sad .. when i watched this episode for the first time i even didn't care for him hell i was happy to see him like that but the moment i start re-watching this show everytime i reach that moment i feel so sad for him watching him calling for help calling Reiner .. Annie .. damn .. Isayama what a Cruel World u make us to watch !!
I actually cry everytime I see this. Reiner and Bertholdt really grew on me and hearing him cry out for help towards Eren and the others shows, that he was in fact attached to them in some way. Reiner is torn between being a soldier and being a warrior, Bertholdt was much more composed but this scene showed that he considered them comrads, too.
@@Yamizan yes. When he saw Eren and the others, you see the spark in Bertolts eyes. He sees hope. So when he sees them hopes that maybe, maybe they will reach out to him
@@aa_battery7 And after that he pauses as if he's thinking "Damn, they're not gonna help me.. We're actually enemies" and he cries for Annie and Reiner instead. Love that detail.
This is probably the first time I’ve seen someone not get mad at Floch for speaking his mind out because I think he totally deserves a say here. People also are quick to dismiss Erwin’s significance because they are more attached to Armin and want him to live. In my eyes that’s just missing why this decision is difficult and there can be points made for both the characters. I see a lot of people comparing the plans against Beast titan and Colossal titan without taking into account how different those situations were and both Armin and Erwin gave it their all. I love both Armin and Erwin and it really is unfortunate to lose either of those but Erwin had made his peace and suffered enough guilt. It was time for him to go.
By choosing Armin Levi is in a way choosing hope and future. Erwin is brilliant, but he's also very tired as all the veterans are (including Levi himself). You just can't deny that Armin has brighter eyes when he talks about his dreams. He is my second favorite in this show.
This is the episode after which we get reveals so earth shattering that it changes the very genre of the series. Until now, the basement and the sea seemed like a door to a magical world and an escape from all the death and destruction. But turns out it was only a door to more death, destruction and insanity. Or maybe just 80% death, destruction and insanity. ;)
7:58 - Montana definitely earning that genius count right there! Been really enjoying your videos on this series (found them yesterday and started with Erwin's speech. Probably going to go back to the beginning after this arc is done so I can start over with you guys.
This whole episode is so heart wrenching and raw with everyone contributing their utmost hurt and disbelief. But Hange's VA in this.. It just gets me every time
Fun fact: Erwin's voice actor, J. Michael Tatum, revealed after the finale that he stopped following the series after Erwin died, because in his words, "If Erwin never reached the cellar, neither would I." I have so much respect for that man as an actor and his dedication to his characters
Cruel dilemma. Depending on argumentation for one or the other - you can already predict who will have easier or harder time accepting new layers of AoT's world. And later in the game, you will realise that the Story was structured in way that there were no choice here to begin with. But with that dilemma, author still tried to prepare you for the future!
True. As soon as he died, scouts fell apart. Hange was trash leader and couldnt tie her comrades together. Armin and hange were too bich and pussies to take attack position. All they knew was how to defend. Erwin knew how to attack and defend. You can clearly feel loss of Erwin and miss him in s4 ep where dahlis Zachary dies and civilians shout "shinzo wo sasageyo" while eren escapes with floch and yeagerists as rebels. Makes you think how eren wouldn't have to do this much alone if Erwin was alive. Armin Mikasa couldn't be of help to eren.
I have to admit i still have tears running down my face from rewatching the whole decision scene with you guys. Jesus the hold this show has on its audience tho
It's so appropriate that Levi heard both Armin's dream and literally asked Erwin what his dream was. Erwin's approach burning through hundreds of lives got them this far, but from here on, they need Armin and the goal of something good in the world beyond the wall.
The best part of this episode is when you have to let the silence of the most part, to enhance the conversations, to get the audience to feel and follow.
I like how Floch glosses over how he managed to scale the wall with Erwin on his back seeing as the Beast Titan had plugged the only entrance back to Shinganshina but I guess he realised he was important to the plot or something...
He has the same mobility gear that every other scout has. realistically, he used it to get over the wall. Given the fact that he was hiding from titans outside the wall and was was scaling the wall at the beginning of the arc, he probably ran out of gas.
I’ve watched many reactions for many other ppl but you guys are the best Hannah is so smart figuring things out and Kenny trying not to spoil things out!!
Son Eren was layed out on the building the same exact way he was when he Armin almost died in ep 5 legs the same way and everything. I never even noticed 😭
I don't know what it is but the one still of Armin laying back in the arms of his friends is so powerful to me. The whole process of transformation is literally like some twisted rebirth. From being essentially dead, to a mindless monster, to pulling back out of the nape of his pure titan form. It makes my throat tighten and I can't explain why. He's like a newborn in that moment
Fun fact:Erwin was securing supply lines outside the wall for years, but they couldn't access it because of the boulder armin made eren put up, forcing them to go through another gate and lose all their progress
I mean, Eren put the boulder there so he could have easily moved it out of the way again. The problem was they didn’t have a way to secure the wall without it, and that was more important. So they decided to use the Eastern gate at first, and then eventually made the horse elevators to go over the walls without the gates, as shown by this expedition leaving from Trost.
Another question I don't see raised often because of the obvious "Erwin or Armin" debate is, IF the platypus Titan hadn't saved Reiner, would you have fed Reiner or Berthold to whoever got the injection?
I guess they might not know this yet at this point in the show, but the obvious answer is to feed them both to Armin. Imagine an armored colosal titan. Nobody could mess with him. That being said, if it had to only be one I'd probably go with the armor
For me they were going to choose Berthold. The colossal titan for me is a better advantage than the other, because of its great height, the steam it releases and the fact that when it transforms it is as if a bomb fell. (Sorry if something is not understood, use the translator)
@@lucianatretiak your English is perfect, don't worry 😄👌 And I agree with you. Even in S2 Eren was able to get on par with Armored titan with some well executed martial arts and would have dominated him if not for Bert interfering Colossal titan is nearly impossible to kill
@@kay-jay1581 agreed, I get where he’s coming from. I understood being scared and wanting Erwin to live. And I get why he stands where he does in season 4 but he’s doing it in a way that makes me hate him. He’s the guy u like to hate and I respect how well written he is
Erwin was a brilliant strategist anyway. We've seen it since s1 with his formations. S2 with taking back Eren and finding out Reiner and Bertholdt's true identities. S3 with bringing down the government. If you think about it in a war sense, we didn't know Marley would leave for 4 years. If they hadn't, how would Armin develop into a leader so soon. If the war was immediate, Erwin would be the better choice. But if the war was years into the future, as it turned out to be, Armin is the better choice. Though Armin wasn't ready to lead at that point, anyway.
I didn't cry the first time around probably because I got spoiled on what was going to happen. But watching it with you guys made me bawl like crazy!!😭😭😭😭😭
See what I love is not only do Levi's own words to Erwin play a role in his choice, but FLOCH'S words do too. Saying killing Erwin would be a mercy, wanting him to 'taste more of this hell', and Levi realizes it's time for Erwin to rest and be free of the cruelty their world heaps upon them. Erwin did not have the hope in the world beyond as Armin does.
Unpopular opinion: It should've been Bertholdt. also sad fact: Reiner actually cried in the manga when he was saved by Zeke and left Bertholdt behind. That scene on the wall..
@@jasonblack2477 earlier I was complaining about how Reiner actually didn't care about him. Rereading manga opened my eyes. They should've kept such pannels there
@@MarikitKaNa lol yes. Exactly. Also he deserved to live like come on. And the fact he had Marco-like death doesn't help. He didn't help with killing him at all. He just watched. Him not killing people directly really, not like other Warriors and dying like that is unfair, imo.
@@Daesma999 I'm so sick of people not realizing the Marco parallel and who the victim and perpetrators are in both situations. It's always "this is karma" when it's about the scouts turning into the same people as the warriors, except they never feel bad about it or think about it after.
"I can't save humanity, and neither can the Commander- BUT ARMIN CAN." ....for those up-to-date on the final season (and/or manga): how telling is this quote borne of emotional fear from Eren?
It's a surefire prediction in which he succeeded in said prediction. Literally in the last exhibition they added dialogue to 137 where Eren says to Armin, You saved humanity
This is the point where i agree with floch and the rest of series proves it. But erwin the leader and saviour who makes tough decisions and his leadership is what kept us in the survival of scouts until now
Fun fact this is the only episode where there is no music until the very end of the episode once armin eats bertholdt they didn’t even play the opening theme
It’s crazy that Erwin died and gave up on his one dream in life but died believing in it but Armin was revived and he saw the sea and completed his dream only to be left empty and with all the darkness in the world. It’s so important do you die believing in your dreams or achieve them but be left empty.
Erwin was a slave for his goal to prove his father's theory right ,until his last breath he asked the question that makes Erwin what he is, and Levi recognised that. Always remember Levi didn't chose Armin over Erwin he just set Erwin free
Exactly my point! If Erwin didn't raise his hand(?), Levi would've injected that to Erwin without a doubt. Ofcourse he would've felt bad for Armin but I doubt he would've regretted that choice.
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I agree with Kenny hottest Titan is Annie and for me is Eren’s attack Titan. 😂
FYI: Your girlfriend would've been BALLING her eyes 👀 out if this was SUB!!! From the moment Floch brought Erwin... your girl would've cried 😭, Hange's story how she survived... tears 😢. Erwin's last word to Levi... "ARIGATOU"... tears 😢. Thanks to DUB... it's NOT as IMPACTFULL!!!
Crispy Armin. Poor bertholdt.
I have a question for both of you (I had issues joining the Patreon, so I couldn't ask there..)
Do you think Bertholdt deserved to die? If so, did he deserved to die like that?
There is a river that runs through Shiganshina District, and it draws water from the tears of the people who watched these last three episodes.
Yep facts
Bruh i was only mad that they didn't give it to Erwin...that's it
@@terra3673 sucks to suck 🤷🏼♀️
It's actually a beautiful thought.
@@terra3673 nah it was the right decision. i used to think that but now i realize Erwin died in the perfect way. Hes lived through hell enough, bringing him back as the collosal would be a curse.
letting Erwin die was the most personal decision Levi ever made.
Yes and Levi didn’t choose armin he let Erwin rest theirs a big difference.
@@Mitsuzen. well Levi realized Armin had bigger dreams then Erwin and also that he let Erwin die because he already told him to give up on his dreams and die fighting the beast titan and Erwin had accepted that fate
@@lookbehindyou5951 Levi didn't give 2 shits about Armin just like me
@@terra3673 🤡
@@meib9412 fair point. but I kinda see it that Erwin's dream ends with the truth at the basement while Armin's dream keeps going beyond that into the outer world. But I guess it's up to your own interpretation of why Levi saved Armin and not Erwin in the end
Rip Moblit, honestly one of the most competent soldiers humanity has ever seen. Let's list some achievements:
1. Literally saved his commander by thinking of a solution in about three seconds.
2. He's survived for at least five years making him a veteran soldier and has killed many titans.
3. Participated in the battle against the Interior Police
Not to mention he was the method to Hange's madness. Without him she would almost certainly have died MANY times...
He was always there by her side to look out for her.
MOBLIT THE REAL GOAT
May he rest in peace
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When floch says "...we need a devil" then the cameraman focuses on Eren.
Like bro...too soon.🌚
Lol
Brrrruuuhhhhh
Cameraman?
@@junior523 there's no fun in saying the animators or wit studio. Plus it feel like a live action or realistic
@@ayete6465 we’ll said
Montana: The beast Titan thinks he knows something about Eren that Eren doesn’t yet
Me: *sips tea aggressively*
*copies* yes earl gray perhaps
I think Erwin will choose Armin and Armin will choose Erwin. Erwin: He let Armin lead the search in the walls and compliments him. This means that he considers Armin's potential. Erwin also accepted his fate and said "We die trusting the living who give meaning in our sacrifice".
For Armin, of course, he respects Erwin so much. He knew that he will never be as good as him. Until now, we can observe how Armin still compares himself to Erwin when it comes to decision-making.
They both have amusing dreams. They are both ready to sacrifice their dreams for the sake of humanity. They are both ready to give the syringe to each other if they had a chance. What makes them different is their leadership. Erwin has intelligence with guilt while Armin has intelligence with doubts.
Erwin's dream was an obsession, created by the guilt from his father death. It is a destructive dream that made him sacrifice everyone around him. So giving up that obsession freed Erwin.
If Erwis was capable to talk he scream for the syringe, his last tough was the question that never can answer, and recap some episodes ago, he say that every time when is about to die the memories of his father came back to his mind
@@luccasliuti8098 and accepted his death
@@josephmenasandoval3419 as what he said, he already accepted his death. Accepting death means giving up on his dreams and die. Plus, he'll prioritize the syringe to Armin since he refers to him as the "chain of command"
@@misssecre Chain of command isn't Armin specifically. It just means follow the one in charge, as Armin was in charge then.
Recruits follow captains, captains follow commanders, commanders follow the premier. Thats a chain of command.
i think it’s a testament to the writing of this show as this decision still causes a rift between viewers even years after it was first written
Lol even Scouts themselves.. and even Armin himself doubts it lol.
The rift is mainly born of making things about who Erwin is. Generally speaking they treat him like an unicorn deboid of what even makes him a character with some complexity
@@bfedezl2018 the fanbase maybe, the show doesn't make it subtle how morally grey erwin is at times. I agree though that Erwin fans act like he's Eldian jesus who wouldve solved all the problems efficiently
@@_Gullible_ Stop crying my little armin fan. lmao
Here’s the thing. IF they could still get to *THE* attack, Erwin would have ended the whole show right there. But I don’t know if they could have gotten there without Armin. I think Eren would have gone off the deep end much faster without Armin. Bottom line, Armin was Eren’s choice, and
BIG BIG SPOILERS
he is the one who gets the last call in the end.
You can see exactly how close Mikasa and Eren are with Armin in this episode. They were both fully prepared to fight Levi and all of the remaining Scouts if that meant Armin got to survive.
Question, do you know if the episodes on Patreon available for all tiers?
@@Jellysfrickingstuff I'm pretty sure they aren't.
@@Jellysfrickingstuff just the $20 tier has all the episodes I believe. $10 has the episodes we have on youtube but uncut and ad-free but no further episodes
You can also feel how levi and erwin were close, this was the hardest lost on him with his friend's in the OVA, you can feel he's broken making this decision.
to be devil's advocate, you could also see it as how little eren and mikasa care for erwin =]
The ironic thing about this decision, is that after all of the arguments on who would be better for humanity - none of that mattered. The decision was ultimately made purely based on emotions by all sides. Eren and Mikasa wanted to bring their friend back, disregarding humanity’s future. No matter what reasons they brought up, their connection to Armin was the deciding factor. And on the other hand, Levi, who was trusted to make a logical decision on the fly, chose Armin only because of his connection to Erwin. Levi didn’t decide who will live, he decided who will die. He saw how enslaved Erwin was to his dream. How it took over his life. What would’ve happened if he reached the basement? He doesn’t even know. His life has one end goal, and there’s nothing after that. So Levi decided to set him free, to let him pass on.
I think it’s valid to discuss who would’ve been the better choice, but personally I think the point of that scene is that it doesn’t even matter.
True
iya. menurutku, jika levi menggunakan logikanya, dia akan memilih Erwin. armin memang cukup jenius (walau kurasa levi tak peduli itu).. tapi armin pilihan yang terlalu beresiko karena erwin adalah tokoh yang sangat amat berpengaruh di antara para prajurit bahkan semua manusia di dalam dinding.. Erwin cukup mampu mencegah perpecahan diantara orang-orang. jikalau memang erwin nantinya merasa hampa setelah menggapai mimpinya, aku yakin dia akan tetap menjadi komandan yang hebat karena pasti dia akan terus mengingat para prajurit yang gugur
Yup. But also ultimately if we look at if from the reader’s POV, Armin’s survival makes sense since it’s passing the torch to the next generation and all that. Narratively speaking.
it was an emotional decision on his part true and he did it so that his friend could be laid to rest and no longer be forced to play the role of devil that everybody viewed him as, however it also makes sense from Levi's perspective. When comparing their dreams and taking into account what Kenny said to him he realised that once Erwin had seen the truth in the basement there was a chance he simply would lose interest beyond that. The dream he was a slave to was in reach and Erwin himself admitted it. Everything he did, all the plans he came up with and all the steps forward they made thanks to him was in service of reaching this dream so once he had achieved it there was no clear plan beyond that. Maybe he would simply lose that certain aspect that pushed him forward and made him such a great commander since in his mind he already got what he wanted, there was no further reason to try as hard. Meanwhile with Armin he had his eyes set outside the walls. He has proven that he has humanities interest at heart as well. His dream takes him further than just the basement and the truth but to the seas and ultimately they need someone with the drive to go further rather than a commander who might possibly phone it in.
@@veraaurelis8931 well Erwin is only few years older actually, and eventhough they do not know it yet, years won't matter. when dealing with humans Armin is not that skillful given his age and nature.
19:46 The last thing Hange's two eyes saw was Moblit, for me, the saddest and most unexpected death of the series, it still hurts today
I'm always really sad over Moblit and Marlo's deaths, I really liked them both and was incredibly sad over seeing them die.
We are almost done with Season 3 and about to reach Season 4, or as I like to call it the Depression Arc.
I call it the racism arc but that works too lol (not saying the writer of AOT is racist obviously)
Depression arc starts from Midnight Sun for me.
@@messingmusic_and_animation writer, singular.
His name is Hajime Isayama.
Depression arc started when sasha happens...
Cruel Arc?
Levi was dead set in his decision to save Erwin before Erwin raised his hand and asked the question that got his father killed. Erwin has been plagued with guilt about that and the deaths of his comrades as much as he has been obsessed with the truth of the world. So Levi let himself be guided by emotions for once and let Erwin rest without him having to experience more guilt.
And as much as it pained Levi, when he saw Erwin use his last breath to bat his hand away before the injection, he still honored his Commander's wish. He knew Erwin was giving it up. But he still respected that. Even if it pained him to do so.
@@messingmusic_and_animation I mean…technically he didn’t refuse the injection. He just remembered the past which made him move his arm
@@kamranhussain5358 He refused the Injection the moment he gave it to Levi before the charge.
@@bfedezl2018 he did not refuse it, nor accept it. I mean he's not even aware of what's happening around him at that time as we was on the verge of death. The state he was in was like remembering abt the past which was that specific moment: where his father was teaching at the class then Erwin raised his hand to his teacher, his father, and asked: what if theres someone outside the walls blah blah. That's why he raised his hand like that, cuz he was in that moment remembering abt the time he raised his hand asking abt titans outside the walls.
@@bfedezl2018 Didn't think of that! Good point!
F in the chat for Erwin, Bertholt, and last but not least Moblit.
RIP Moblit, gone to soon. So soon that most people don't even talk about his death. It's a tragedy that we didn't get to see more from him. I kinda shipped him and Hange.
Don't forget Marlo
I thought i was the only one who lowkey shipped them at that time
All of them but Bertholdt.
@@messingmusic_and_animation why? he was a brainwashed kid
@@messingmusic_and_animation why? Bertholdt is such a tragic and underrated character. Him joining the warriors was his only way of getting treatment for his Dad's cancer. Reiner and Annie both joined for different reasons but Bertholdt did so to help his dad. Too bad his dad stopped receiving Healthcare after Bertholdt failed the mission and eventually died.
My favorite part of this is how Montana from the very beginning has been quick to shield her eyes from the more brutal scenes but here, as Armin crunches down on Bertholts head, she looks disgusted with hatred towards Bertholt and never looks away lol.
I think what makes this episode so interesting is the fact that you can make countless arguments for either Armin or Erwin being a good choice. You can argue that while Ewrin was the more experienced commander, his goal only reached the basement, while Armin's reached the sea and the whole outside world. Or that while Armin is young and smart, no one can touch the hearts of their soldiers quite as well as Erwin. It's so fascinating that the dilemma in this episode is still talked about even years after it was released.
You actually can't. Armin is objectively better, and you can only make a few arguments for Erwin that still get overtaken by counterpoints. Erwin was actually a terrible commander throughout the duration of the show, assuming he even was all that great off-screen.
@@Voidaken how was erwin terrible? He got the scouts so far with limited knowledge . I'm open to people disagreeing with me... But if you're gonna make a claim as bold as " Erwin was trash" then you better have at least a couple points to back it up.
@@MadeByIsmael Don't put words in my mouth. If you're going to quote me, quote it right. And I didn't even disagree with you; you jumped in to disagree with me, so let's not paint this as I'm on the offensive.
Erwin was terrible throughout the show because every single tactic of his backfired and cost the entirety of his sector. Not a single one of his plans were successful while commanding on-screen. If it weren't for X Deus Ex Machina, Erwin would have gotten everybody killed, including himself, for nothing.
@@Voidaken Erwin was a terrible commander?? As opposed to?
Shadis? Where most of his expeditions yielded no net positive results.
Hange? (spoilersss)
There was a literal civil war and a mutiny under her command.
Im not opposed to any character, hell I love even characters like Floch and Kenny. But you aint gotta push someone down to justify the other choice. If you have caught up to the recent episodes, characters wishing for Erwin being present is a testament to the man's competence and dependable nature.
@@rahulrahulrake As opposed to irrelevant. You don't negate a character's stats because someone may be worse.
Hange(and Erwin) is a commander, not a political leader. Civil war did not erupt under her authority.
You "ain't gotta," but I can and did it anyway. There aren't "countless" arguments for Erwin. Just a few. If Erwin has to be pushed down to make that point, then that's the way it has to be.
Armin and Hange's insecurity in themselves is not a testament to Erwin. That's like saying Mikasa wishing Eren is present is a testament to Eren's "competence and dependable nature." Clearly he's showcased the opposite.
The lack of music throughout the episode right up to the end where the syringe is used is still my absolute favourite part of the episode and never fails to make me sob.
When that music kicks in as Bertholdt is eaten, it just elevates the emotions of the already tense scene a thousand fold.
Even with all the death and destruction Bertholt caused, I can never not feel bad for him. Especially after S4.
I understand they had a choice to go back but they kept going with the plan
I get that, but for me I didn’t feel bad for him, but it’s not like I celebrated his death either. At the time I just felt like he had this coming. I kinda got annoyed at him for asking for help tho after what he’s done.
@@gabecajamarca He called for help because he had a memory lapse and forgot he was trying to kill them. He didn't have it coming, he was forced to do this when he was a child and had no choice
@@salchief4052 oh I get that, what I was saying was how I felt when I first saw this. Those were my initial feelings and we didn’t really know his past at that point. I get that I didn’t make that clear enough tho my bad
@@gabecajamarca Oh sorry. I should have read it better.
That one second initially when Bertholdt sees his friends nearby and automatically smiles because surely his comrades will come to help him and then remembers and starts screaming. Oof.
Kenny one liners in this had me dying:
"Crispy Armin"
"Good... thoughts..."
Remember in the OVA Levi promised to kill Erwin.
He finally fulfilled that promise.
Why the f*ck would you say that!!!??? Why would you make me remember that!!!!?????? (Cries even harder) 😭😭😭
14:45 probably the funniest 4th wall break
I like how you can make all the 4th wall breaks without her noticing because she is so focused on analyzing and answering the questions
The duck titan did call the Beast Titan by his name Zeke a few episodes back, so it's not a spoiler
It's just that the effect in the voice for the dub makes it hard to distinguish, even in the sub it's kinda hard with the distortion. I wish they could've had Reiner or Bertholt call him by his name too so everyone could notice.
You can tell Erwin wanted to train Admin to become his strategist or even replacement eventually. He wanted Armin to make all the calls this mission. He knew his uses were limited how he was. So Erwin was already thinking of a replacement for himself in Armin in a way I always thought.
Nah. Armin is only suit for consultant role
@@oliverjames8580Not many teenagers are great soldiers people usually change as they age.
Of course Beast Titan thinks he's on the "good side." You do realize that everybody thinks they're the good guys in their life, right? Nobody chooses to be evil.
I wouldn’t say nobody thinks they are evil, plenty of people know what they are doing is wrong but do it anyway for self gain
@@andrewlynch4126 They justify the wrong because there's a "good" reason for doing the wrong. So nobody is choosing to be evil because even when they are evil, they have convinced themselves that they are the good guys from their narrative.
Floch inadvertently convincing Levi to let Erwin die as a mercy is the one good thing he's ever done lmfao
ikr. lol he should've just shut the fck up
The reality is, they need both Armin and Erwin. The situation is just being cruel forcing them to leave one to die.
That moment when Bertholdt got eating is so painful and sad .. when i watched this episode for the first time i even didn't care for him hell i was happy to see him like that but the moment i start re-watching this show everytime i reach that moment i feel so sad for him watching him calling for help calling Reiner .. Annie .. damn .. Isayama what a Cruel World u make us to watch !!
I actually cry everytime I see this. Reiner and Bertholdt really grew on me and hearing him cry out for help towards Eren and the others shows, that he was in fact attached to them in some way. Reiner is torn between being a soldier and being a warrior, Bertholdt was much more composed but this scene showed that he considered them comrads, too.
@@Yamizan yes. When he saw Eren and the others, you see the spark in Bertolts eyes. He sees hope. So when he sees them hopes that maybe, maybe they will reach out to him
@@aa_battery7 And after that he pauses as if he's thinking "Damn, they're not gonna help me.. We're actually enemies" and he cries for Annie and Reiner instead. Love that detail.
Tbh, I'm still bitter about Marco and the cruel way they killed him that I truly did not care about Bertholdt in that moment.
I hope I can die a heroic death like Moblit. Pushing my boss down a well.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Damn you I laughed out loud
Bro I hope you didn't end up like Moblit tho 😂. A life over your boss' eye doesn't seem like a fair sacrifice
This is the comment im looking for 😂😂😂
Montana’s voice is so smooth and comforting, I’m serious it’s pleasant
This is probably the first time I’ve seen someone not get mad at Floch for speaking his mind out because I think he totally deserves a say here. People also are quick to dismiss Erwin’s significance because they are more attached to Armin and want him to live. In my eyes that’s just missing why this decision is difficult and there can be points made for both the characters. I see a lot of people comparing the plans against Beast titan and Colossal titan without taking into account how different those situations were and both Armin and Erwin gave it their all. I love both Armin and Erwin and it really is unfortunate to lose either of those but Erwin had made his peace and suffered enough guilt. It was time for him to go.
By choosing Armin Levi is in a way choosing hope and future. Erwin is brilliant, but he's also very tired as all the veterans are (including Levi himself). You just can't deny that Armin has brighter eyes when he talks about his dreams.
He is my second favorite in this show.
This is the episode after which we get reveals so earth shattering that it changes the very genre of the series. Until now, the basement and the sea seemed like a door to a magical world and an escape from all the death and destruction. But turns out it was only a door to more death, destruction and insanity. Or maybe just 80% death, destruction and insanity. ;)
I see what you did there.
Bird
Bertholdt...it hurts everytime I see it, and everytime it hurts more
Me too. It is so painful to watch
Love rewatching this with you all, I just realized this is the beginning of Floch's new chapter. "We need a devil...."
7:58 - Montana definitely earning that genius count right there! Been really enjoying your videos on this series (found them yesterday and started with Erwin's speech. Probably going to go back to the beginning after this arc is done so I can start over with you guys.
This whole episode is so heart wrenching and raw with everyone contributing their utmost hurt and disbelief. But Hange's VA in this.. It just gets me every time
if erwin stayed alive season 4 would be like 10 episodes
Let me guess. Some yeagerist and rumbling bullshit again?
This is definitely one of the hardest decision ever made in anime
Also completely fcccked it up by reviving Armin
Jesus Christ! I had no hope for Montana to even watch this content during season 1 but she didn’t even flinch when Bertholt was getting eaten 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yeah I'm impressed
15:13 not Levi telling Eren to leave his feelings out of it when he himself is completely acting on his own emotions
That's what makes him human
I had to just say your cat looks like the twin of a cat I lost recently and just seeing her made my heart so happy
Fun fact: Erwin's voice actor, J. Michael Tatum, revealed after the finale that he stopped following the series after Erwin died, because in his words, "If Erwin never reached the cellar, neither would I." I have so much respect for that man as an actor and his dedication to his characters
Kenny lookin like an evil villain caressing that cat
Cruel dilemma. Depending on argumentation for one or the other - you can already predict who will have easier or harder time accepting new layers of AoT's world.
And later in the game, you will realise that the Story was structured in way that there were no choice here to begin with. But with that dilemma, author still tried to prepare you for the future!
This episode concludes one of the 4 holy trilogies of episodes in AOT. This episode is truly heart braking!
What's the 4th triology?
@@RohanSinghal-ob7zu 4 5 6?
@@j.m.9519 It wasn't on the same level as these trilogies
@@RohanSinghal-ob7zu Episode 78-80.
@@RS_Anime bro, I already took that trilogy in the above comment
The reason Erwin was killed because his Strategies would be too OP for the story to continue lol
yeah just imaging Erwin acquiring that "nuke" power up
True. As soon as he died, scouts fell apart. Hange was trash leader and couldnt tie her comrades together.
Armin and hange were too bich and pussies to take attack position. All they knew was how to defend.
Erwin knew how to attack and defend.
You can clearly feel loss of Erwin and miss him in s4 ep where dahlis Zachary dies and civilians shout "shinzo wo sasageyo" while eren escapes with floch and yeagerists as rebels.
Makes you think how eren wouldn't have to do this much alone if Erwin was alive. Armin Mikasa couldn't be of help to eren.
I have to admit i still have tears running down my face from rewatching the whole decision scene with you guys.
Jesus the hold this show has on its audience tho
Armin made the decision to give up his dream and sacrifice himself.
Levi had to decide for Erwin to give up his dream and sacrifice himself.
I just balled my eyes out for Erwin again.
Man!
It's so appropriate that Levi heard both Armin's dream and literally asked Erwin what his dream was. Erwin's approach burning through hundreds of lives got them this far, but from here on, they need Armin and the goal of something good in the world beyond the wall.
The best part of this episode is when you have to let the silence of the most part, to enhance the conversations, to get the audience to feel and follow.
I like how Floch glosses over how he managed to scale the wall with Erwin on his back seeing as the Beast Titan had plugged the only entrance back to Shinganshina but I guess he realised he was important to the plot or something...
He has the same mobility gear that every other scout has. realistically, he used it to get over the wall. Given the fact that he was hiding from titans outside the wall and was was scaling the wall at the beginning of the arc, he probably ran out of gas.
Everything this episode was, and now it's Floch's origin story 🤯
I’ve watched many reactions for many other ppl but you guys are the best Hannah is so smart figuring things out and Kenny trying not to spoil things out!!
Son Eren was layed out on the building the same exact way he was when he Armin almost died in ep 5 legs the same way and everything. I never even noticed 😭
I don't know what it is but the one still of Armin laying back in the arms of his friends is so powerful to me. The whole process of transformation is literally like some twisted rebirth. From being essentially dead, to a mindless monster, to pulling back out of the nape of his pure titan form. It makes my throat tighten and I can't explain why. He's like a newborn in that moment
Levi talking to the already dead Erwin calls back all the way to his VERY FIRST APPEARANCE where he does the same thing to another soldier.
I still feel bad for Bertholdt. Reiner is my favourite character and Bert would probably be up there too if he had more screen time
Fun fact:Erwin was securing supply lines outside the wall for years, but they couldn't access it because of the boulder armin made eren put up, forcing them to go through another gate and lose all their progress
I mean, Eren put the boulder there so he could have easily moved it out of the way again. The problem was they didn’t have a way to secure the wall without it, and that was more important. So they decided to use the Eastern gate at first, and then eventually made the horse elevators to go over the walls without the gates, as shown by this expedition leaving from Trost.
and when i was small i just feared an injection and cried watching this episode told me what is to cry without tearss
Can we talk about how adorable there cat is😊
I don't know if I'm the only one but I actually cried the first time I saw bertholdt die :(
Moblit is a true masterclass about loyalty.
Another question I don't see raised often because of the obvious "Erwin or Armin" debate is, IF the platypus Titan hadn't saved Reiner, would you have fed Reiner or Berthold to whoever got the injection?
I guess they might not know this yet at this point in the show, but the obvious answer is to feed them both to Armin. Imagine an armored colosal titan. Nobody could mess with him. That being said, if it had to only be one I'd probably go with the armor
For me they were going to choose Berthold. The colossal titan for me is a better advantage than the other, because of its great height, the steam it releases and the fact that when it transforms it is as if a bomb fell. (Sorry if something is not understood, use the translator)
@@lucianatretiak your English is perfect, don't worry 😄👌
And I agree with you. Even in S2 Eren was able to get on par with Armored titan with some well executed martial arts and would have dominated him if not for Bert interfering
Colossal titan is nearly impossible to kill
Eh, give Eren the armored titan
This episode comes out on my birthday 🎂! What a treat
Happy birthday
Just a reminder that Floch Forster was ready to go against an Ackerman to save Erwin.
I love floch even in S4 idc 😭
I’m glad someone does. Now I can’t freaking stand him. I do enjoy hating in him though it’s a lot of fun.
long live king floch
@@kay-jay1581 agreed, I get where he’s coming from. I understood being scared and wanting Erwin to live. And I get why he stands where he does in season 4 but he’s doing it in a way that makes me hate him. He’s the guy u like to hate and I respect how well written he is
floch can choke 😌
Her face tho 😭 pls get her some tea and cookies or something and snuggle her for emotional recovery after this
Damn, Floch's english VA is really good.
All of them are top notch.
Leadership can be taught. Armin's brilliance cannot. Its a natural gift that he alone possesses. It's an easy choice for me, I give the shot to Armin.
Erwin was a brilliant strategist anyway. We've seen it since s1 with his formations. S2 with taking back Eren and finding out Reiner and Bertholdt's true identities. S3 with bringing down the government. If you think about it in a war sense, we didn't know Marley would leave for 4 years. If they hadn't, how would Armin develop into a leader so soon. If the war was immediate, Erwin would be the better choice. But if the war was years into the future, as it turned out to be, Armin is the better choice. Though Armin wasn't ready to lead at that point, anyway.
@@ebrimajallow3165 he was inactive for 4 years, allowed eren to launch an attack on his own🤷🏻♂️
The storytelling of AOT is a masterpiece. Thank you for your hard work and attention to details, Eren Yeager.
I didn't cry the first time around probably because I got spoiled on what was going to happen. But watching it with you guys made me bawl like crazy!!😭😭😭😭😭
28:42 i love this look from keny he is like : yeaaah about that ^^'
We need a Montana curse/rage compilation at the end of this AOT series, please and thank you! 😂
SPOILERS
rip moblit bro, he was always by hange’s side and was loyal
I will confess, I did kinda ship them for a bit before Moblit's death scene came around. XD
Montana: Hange's dead?
Kenny: yeah.. and probably Moblit too.
Montana: I can't believe Hange is dead.
Kenny: and Moblit..
He was the real one 😔✊
See what I love is not only do Levi's own words to Erwin play a role in his choice, but FLOCH'S words do too. Saying killing Erwin would be a mercy, wanting him to 'taste more of this hell', and Levi realizes it's time for Erwin to rest and be free of the cruelty their world heaps upon them. Erwin did not have the hope in the world beyond as Armin does.
"You're very smart."
I love yalls relationship so much.
Kenny saying "Titans are ALL hot" would make a great out of context clip lol.
Im so excited my favorite episode is coming 🥰 not the basement but the "That Day"
not me crying my eyes out like I haven't watched this episode at least five times
0 flinching from Armin eatin the grape LOL
Unpopular opinion: It should've been Bertholdt.
also sad fact: Reiner actually cried in the manga when he was saved by Zeke and left Bertholdt behind. That scene on the wall..
I hate that they cut that scene and many in season 4
@@jasonblack2477 earlier I was complaining about how Reiner actually didn't care about him. Rereading manga opened my eyes. They should've kept such pannels there
@@Daesma999 it really should have been Bertholdt. He’s absolutely the best choice to avoid certain things happening now.
@@MarikitKaNa lol yes. Exactly.
Also he deserved to live like come on. And the fact he had Marco-like death doesn't help. He didn't help with killing him at all. He just watched. Him not killing people directly really, not like other Warriors and dying like that is unfair, imo.
@@Daesma999 I'm so sick of people not realizing the Marco parallel and who the victim and perpetrators are in both situations. It's always "this is karma" when it's about the scouts turning into the same people as the warriors, except they never feel bad about it or think about it after.
7:57 is just a memory lapse. The show has covered this before so we can't afford to forget old things when new things are afoot.
Mikasa thought she can took serum by force but can't
Even levi is exhausted by killing beast titan and titans
Levi is on another level 💗🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
13:28 in the manga when it shows reiner and zeke on the wall reiner is crying
17:50 pretty sure the last thing that was going through their minds wasn't fear, it was rock
You know in season 1 I didn’t care much for armin but now I’m rewatching this I couldn’t have imagined the rest of the show without him
It's funny how Montana says "It feels right" to revive Armin, as Armin himself said similar things like he has a gut feeling or has a hunch.
"Montana likes s
A skinless, massive man."
Soooo many dirty jokes...sooo mannnny XD
she's not wrong tho, colossal titan really is steaming hot..😉
"I can't save humanity, and neither can the Commander- BUT ARMIN CAN."
....for those up-to-date on the final season (and/or manga): how telling is this quote borne of emotional fear from Eren?
It's a surefire prediction in which he succeeded in said prediction. Literally in the last exhibition they added dialogue to 137 where Eren says to Armin, You saved humanity
i can just say this aged incredibly well
Imagine if Armin and Erwin had the same hairstyle, the reveal would have taken longer.
This is the point where i agree with floch and the rest of series proves it. But erwin the leader and saviour who makes tough decisions and his leadership is what kept us in the survival of scouts until now
Fun fact this is the only episode where there is no music until the very end of the episode once armin eats bertholdt they didn’t even play the opening theme
Who else thinks that of levi didn't find out if hange was still alive, nothing would've changed his mind of saving erwin
I remember I couldn't breathe or move this entire episode.
It’s crazy that Erwin died and gave up on his one dream in life but died believing in it but Armin was revived and he saw the sea and completed his dream only to be left empty and with all the darkness in the world. It’s so important do you die believing in your dreams or achieve them but be left empty.
Erwin was a slave for his goal to prove his father's theory right ,until his last breath he asked the question that makes Erwin what he is, and Levi recognised that. Always remember Levi didn't chose Armin over Erwin he just set Erwin free
Exactly my point! If Erwin didn't raise his hand(?), Levi would've injected that to Erwin without a doubt. Ofcourse he would've felt bad for Armin but I doubt he would've regretted that choice.
At least she did say nothing about Bertholds death. Better then say anything bad.
My respect for her emotional control.
Yeah I agree
How painful and hard decision levi did
He really suffered enough to choose between them .but he wanted erwin to be free from his demon