Chernobyl 1x5 "Vichnaya Pamyat" - Reaction!! | Couple Reacts

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  • @Yevgeniy-UA
    @Yevgeniy-UA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    In case you don't know. "Vichnaya Pamyat" means "Eternal memory"

    • @blissfull_ignorance8454
      @blissfull_ignorance8454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Its is also a title of a funeral hymn generally sung at funerals of the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church.

  • @TheNismo777
    @TheNismo777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I can proudly say that I was one of those who donated money to that new safe confinement building :)

  • @kyubey3961
    @kyubey3961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Interestingly, the new confinement building finished in 2017 wasn't built over the reactor, it was built next to it on large beams that acted as rails and then pushed over the reactor once finished, to avoid a lot of radiation exposure to the workers during its construction (the first sarcophagus was quickly built over the reactor to contain most of the radioactive material inside, however it started to deteriorate and leak in a few years and wasn't meant as a long term solution).

    • @IgoZoom1
      @IgoZoom1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At the time, it was the largest movable object ever created by man. There’s a whole documentary on the SCI channel. Definitely worth checking out!

    • @ct5625
      @ct5625 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also, it's now a research facility and intended to be used to not only isolate the site but also dismantle it over time.
      This is a unique place on the planet, allowing nuclear scientists to study something they cannot study anywhere else, and it's paying off in fascinating ways.
      A few years ago scientists working there discovered a fungus growing inside the reactor building which feeds on the radiation to produce energy and growth, in a similar way other plants use photosynthesis. It's expected that this new fungus will help us to develop new methods of cleaning up radiation and could even lead to a method to treat radiation exposure.

  • @alanfoster6589
    @alanfoster6589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Was there in 2011, while the containment structure was still under construction. The nearest you could get to the reactor was where the sculpture of the two hands holding the reactor is positioned...and you were not allowed to stay long. The official guides worked for six months, then had to take six months off...at a considerable distance away. What sticks with me the most is not abandoned Pripyat, where we were allowed to walk around, nor the exposed reactor, but the brief glimpse of the Red Forest as we drove past...and the readings on our hand-held dosimeters jumped noticeably.

  • @johnstrong4089
    @johnstrong4089 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Valery Khodemchuk was in the pump room when the core exploded and he was vaporized instantly he was the first person to die from the Chernobyl disaster

  • @ashleyowen7664
    @ashleyowen7664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    31:58 - the guy that stands up and says "your testimony is concluded" is from the State, he KNOWS about the flaw, but given it's a "State Secret", he HAS to shut Legasov down so he doesn't tell anybody about the flaw

    • @matt_canon
      @matt_canon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm curious why he asked "Why?" when Legasov explained that the tips were made of graphite.

    • @ashleyowen7664
      @ashleyowen7664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matt_canon the reason he asked why is purley because, ONLY the tops knew about the flaw: 3 people in the KGB, as qell as Legasov, Volkov and about four other's knew, anyone else, whether judge, police officer, fire crew, worker, or normal citizen didnt even know and were ALL indoctrinated, as they are today (as well as N. Korea), that NOTHING can go wrong anywhere, we know what we're doing, don't trust the world, we're right and everyone else is wrong

    • @ashleyowen7664
      @ashleyowen7664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@matt_canon because only a few (KGB, Legasov, Volkov and about four others) knew about the flaw, i believe in total it was about 15 people that knew, but as it was a State Secret, they couldn't tell anybody, anybody else was told "we know what we're doing", "trust us, we are the best", or "there's nothing wrong with the reactors, their built perfectly", "there is no flaw in our building, don't believe mis-information"

  • @diaphanouswaffle
    @diaphanouswaffle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great show-have rewatched it countless times...also, this was how I found your channel.
    I was a teenager when this disaster happened, but didn't know much about it at the time-though I recall watching an episode of the PBS science program NOVA about the 3 Mile Island reactor incident (a nuclear accident in Pennsylvania) as a kid & being very scared of that.

  • @gottagowork
    @gottagowork 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    "It's history". Not for the not too smart military units - or commanders, more likely - who decided to disturb the ground (that was turned during the show) by digging trenches in it when the orcs invaded Ukraine. Several hundreds got sick from acute radiation sickness, of which one died. I also heard you're advised against eating wild boars in Sweden to this day. If digging deeper into this, I recommend nuclear engineers and physicists on youtube, as well as The Chernobyl Guy channel.
    The show is a drama, not a documentary, and from what I understand they chose to use sources that was less than accurate and trusting it blindly. Dyatlov may have been difficult to work with, but also highly professional; any good drama needs a bad guy, so they turned him into pretty much a villain. There are also translated interviews with him on youtube.

  • @hepunk
    @hepunk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its an amazing finale, the "bridge of death" is considered an urban myth. The logistics of building and installing the new confinement building is pretty insane if you care to look into it. The channel "Kyle Hill" has a video where he was granted access to the inside of the confinement structure.

  • @Yevgeniy-UA
    @Yevgeniy-UA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    One thing isn't true in the epilogue. About the co-called "Bridge of Death" The Bridge exists, but nobody stood on that bridge the night of the accident. People didn't even go outside because, first of all, Chernobyl nuclear power plant is just 3 kilometers away from the City of Pripyat and nicely visible from every window. Secondly, most of the people were sleeping, and those who didn't were just too scared to go outside. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about because one of my friends who lived in Pripyat at that time, he told me everything what was going on the night of the accident.

    • @VoloMalVor
      @VoloMalVor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      What if your friend was asleep too and did not know what happened!
      I think there was explosion, fire, sounds of sirens. People would wake up. And we like to watch things burning down, accidents in general. So it isn't far fetched they would go outside to look better.

  • @jakubfabisiak9810
    @jakubfabisiak9810 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing about the control rods - it wasn't a mistake, strictly speaking, to have the tips made of graphite. Basically - boron reduces reactivity, and so does water, but not as much as boron. If the control rods were pure boron, then moving one would replace water with boron, or vice-versa - replacing a stronger neutron poison, with a weaker one, and the effect of moving a single rod would be greatly dininished. But when the two substances have the opposite effect - graphite increases reactivity, and boron reduces it, then a single control rod has a greater impact on the reactor.
    The flaw, that Legasow mentioned, and that was later corrected was to redesign the control rods so that the boron, and graphite were separated, so that the operators could go from boron, to water, to graphite, then back to water and boron, and retain better control.
    In western reactors that flaw is not present, because with properly enriched nuclear fuel, water can act as both neutron poison, and moderator, so the absence of water reduces reactivity, unlike the soviet reactors, where the moderator is fixed in place (the graphite surrounding the fuel rods).

  • @efricha
    @efricha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The monument says at the base, I believe, in both Ukrainian and Russian, "In memory of those who saved the world."
    Dyatlov was really that way, a very hard taskmaster who was brutal to his underlings. However, in his last years, he spent time defending the two operators, saying, they had done nothing wrong.
    To the end he said he was on the toilet when it happened.
    The reason he was so complacent is that he survived and managed a reactor accident on a sub. No one in the USSR expected an RBMK to explode, at least no one who was listened to. In the west and in other branches of government (like the Navy) it was notorious.
    Lyudmilla was asked repeatedly to be a consultant on this, but she refused, not wanting to revisit this. She didn't like how she was portrayed.
    The story doesn't have a happy end for her. People started seeking her out to talk to her, and she had to go into hiding.
    This is based on the Chrnobyl Diaries, which is all their testimony.
    Valerey's tapes are transcripted online today.
    The remains of the actual "Joker" police robot are photographed, and is online. Yes, it is yellow.
    The New Safe Confinement is there to allow the reactor remains to be disassembled while it is contained.
    Chernobyl came into play in the beginning of the Ukraine invasion, where Russian soldiers dug trenches near it, and got very very sick.
    The divers, when their flashlights died, went the rest of the way and back out, purely by feel. Which makes for poor TV.

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They used so many different robots with varying success, it's really fascinating to look at everything they came up with to try.
      And joker actually worked for awhile, it got stuck on a piece of graphite and they went out in brief spurts and hooked cables to it and winched it off to keep it going (there's video of this)

  • @sebastianstoica578
    @sebastianstoica578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The containment building was built next to the power plant and was pushed over it on rails.

  • @RoboSteave
    @RoboSteave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great reactions to a great show!

  • @demopem
    @demopem 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    They didn't really explain the significance of the the change to the night shift very well. Typically the night shift was a less experience crew, hence their young age. They were normally just required to keep things stable and not mess around with the reactor. Tricky things like this test would normally be done by a more experienced crew... but as we saw, this didn't happen in this case.

    • @MrDzoni955
      @MrDzoni955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it's worth noting that the night shift crew was still confident in their skills, they weren't as scared as it was shown in the show. But yeah, there were so many fuck ups that led to a disaster

    • @ElyonDominus
      @ElyonDominus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They explained it fine.

  • @Tele-dude
    @Tele-dude 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a great NOVA about the building of the sarcophagus.

  • @wrldchamps04
    @wrldchamps04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An amazing series/story....

  • @killman369547
    @killman369547 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To properly explain why the tips were graphite there is one thing i have to point out first. These "tips" were not tips, they are better described as moderator rods. They are there because the size and design of the RBMK-1000 make it prone to developing hot or cold spots of reactivity and these can have different effects varying from a loss of efficiency to blowing a steam channel. The moderator rods help even out the reactivity so it is uniform across the entire core. As a control rod is raised out of the core a moderator rod takes it's place.
    The key thing to know about them is they are shorter than the control rods and when fully inserted there are some spots at the bottom they don't reach. It was the moderator rods moving into this uncovered section of the core that triggered the power surge. Because unknown to the operators a hot spot had formed there.

  • @IgoZoom1
    @IgoZoom1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I fell in love with all three of the main characters, but Emily Watson’s Khomyuk was my favorite. It’s interesting to learn that she represented all the other scientists. As others have pointed out, a woman wouldn’t have held such a high position in the Soviet Union. More importantly, no one person would have had access to all the information she did. They kept things so compartmentalized that no one knew all the pieces of the puzzle. That was their illusion of control.

    • @AJ1987LV
      @AJ1987LV 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You'd be surprised at how many women held scientific positions in Soviet Union. There were doctors, scientists, etc, who were women. I know that in this case Ulana Homjuk was composite character, but to say that woman wouldn't held high position in scientific field in Soviet Union is ridiculous, because that was not the case (I'm from former Soviet republic country, Latvia, so... yeah, know a bit about that)

  • @amandac.d.4216
    @amandac.d.4216 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You guys are the best reactors I've seen for this show! You were super insightful and clever throughout it all.
    As a note, Valery Legasov was an amateur poet (it was his favorite hobby), and while the show doesn't exactly portray it, I think it still integrated that side of him in the character's speech and dialogues, and I truly love that ✨

  • @DecSteele
    @DecSteele 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Humans have built/discovered/learnt how to do some beautiful and truly outstanding things in this life, equally more horrifying things we’ve built

  • @UberDurable
    @UberDurable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Phenomenal series!

  • @cathyvickers9063
    @cathyvickers9063 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chernobyl had 3 reactors. One blew up. The other two kept functioning. They were shut down only recently.
    The radiation at the hospital comes off the piled clothes.
    During the Ukrainian war, Russian troops were ordered to dig trenches in the woods outside Chernobyl. Shortly thereafter, they were rushed to hospitals with radiation sickness.
    I was in Ohio when this happened. It freaked me out knowing radiation was in the upper atmosphere traveling above my State. Its radiation ringed the world.
    The series does an excellent job of depicting life in a dictatorship. While Western nations would've been evacuating civilians, establishing exclusion zones & keeping the populace informed, the USSR put secrecy & State security first & population safety last.

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chernobyl had 6 reactors, 4 were running and two were under construction a short distance away from the block of 4.
      Yes, number 4 blew up and they continued to run the other three, eventually one had a turbine fire and went out of service and the remaining two I believe ran until about 2000.

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Russian soldiers digging up Chernobyl comes directly from Ukraine, who has also shot down 100% of all missiles and drones Russia has fired, and hyped the whole ghost of kiev imaginary fighter pilot that singlehandedly won the war

  • @gregpeacock5497
    @gregpeacock5497 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boris was a cabinet minister from what I remember, and he didn't know about the flaw. Therefore, no one at Chernobyl would have known. With what I know about the KGB, once classified as a state secret, I highly doubt even Gorbachev knew about it. Plausable deniability. If you can find it, I would highly recommend you watch Citizen X, which is about Andrei Chikatilo, known as the Red Ripper, the most prolific serial killer in the USSR.

  • @proosee
    @proosee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact, there are people living in zona, at least there were until the war unleashed. There were volunteers providing them some less common commodities and also some company and those people were living there in reasonable good health. It seems that measures taken were a bit too strict, but then again: who would have known back then? To this day scientists are arguing on how radiation affects living creatures and can't come to an agreement.

  • @zXSleeZy
    @zXSleeZy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When the russians invaded ukraine, they dug themself in near chernobyl and got radiation sickness because they hadn't been told about it.
    They wanted to capture it and use it as a base of operations but had to abandon that idea.

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the only source for this was it was seen by the ghost of kyiv as they were flying over

  • @TheTsar1918
    @TheTsar1918 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Bridge of Death never happened. It was an urban legend.

  • @hiddenInsight486
    @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you look at it, the "higher powers" in the room is borris

  • @Sir_Lauchboy
    @Sir_Lauchboy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Recommend you to watch a gem of a mini series called „The Terror „

  • @AmitSaini-os5bw
    @AmitSaini-os5bw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your reactions because you listen every word carefully

    • @ElyonDominus
      @ElyonDominus หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, they really didn't.

  • @HalkerVeil
    @HalkerVeil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did he know it was graphite before watching this. And he was the one saying don't look anything up before?

    • @jamiebollenbacher4762
      @jamiebollenbacher4762 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Legasov mentions the graphite tips in the episode before this one when they meet to discuss the redacted report.

    • @HalkerVeil
      @HalkerVeil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamiebollenbacher4762 Oh right.

  • @cherylsims5636
    @cherylsims5636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well guys I will give you A+ for doing this series. I know a lot about it and watch every youtuber who does a reaction to it.I give the same comments to each as u about the effects of radiation, the nature of the Soviet Govt. Well if the Soviets had not stopped this incident you and I would NOT be speaking right now. Thats how serious it was/is. The is a good documentary about how they built the containment building you might watch. There were 4 nuclear reactors at this plant. #4 is which blew. The ore will not stop being radiative for 24,000 years, so all that can be do is contain it. Yes dumb idiots do sneak in and around it.
    The war now occuring between Russia and Ukraine did get near there. This plant is by Kiev and some Russian tanker actually dug in ground to conceal their position. (The ground which is contaminated and reburied) well now those crews have come down with radiation sickness.... Does no one learn anything?? Sad.. Well the whole war is even more sad.
    You did miss the most IMPORANT thing in the ending credits, thats why i said be sure to watch them. Gorbachev wrote in his memoirs that Chernobyl was the true cause of the break up of the Soviet Union..it bankrupted the country. Now you know!
    Well anything down by HBO Ive always found to be top notch stuff. As a suggested for another mini series I like ROME. its a drama about Julius Caesar, Mark Anthony, Cleopatra and that time around 30 BC. It's done really well. it like 15 episodes.
    Halloween here so if you like scary stuff The Exorcist '73 remains the most scary film to date ive seen followed by ALIEN'79

  • @jeremycovelli
    @jeremycovelli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty much everything in the show except for a few small details actually happened... including the helicopter crashing while dumping sand. Also today you can go visit Chernobyl and the exlusion zone but only for a limited amount of time. No one is allowed to live in the exlusion zone. Chernobyl is shut down today, although two of it's reactors did continue to run for a couple years after the explosion of reactor 4. One thing they didn't show in the show, is that over the course of 200 days they built and put a very crude steel and concrete covering over the exposed core, called the sarcophagus. It was so poorly and quickly made that it started deteriorating from the elements almost immediately, and re-releasing radiation. In 2006 the Russian and Ukraine governments asked the world for help in funding a more permanent solultion. It took a full 6 years to get the funding to build the New Safe Containment building.. which is essentially a huge shield they put over the entirety of reactor 4 to keep radiation from escaping. It also has two huge cranes inside it which are designed to, in the future, completely dismantle the reactor and clean it up permanently. There are still hundreds of scientists and engineers around the world trying to figure out how to do that. the reactor core is still so dangerous that not even robots can go in there.

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't say that this series is that accurate. For example, the helicopter did crash, but because it ran into a crane, and significantly after the time portrayed here. Much of the science and the relationships shown are inaccurate or poorly represented. (Among other things, Dyatlov wasn't a raging a-hole.) It seems particularly problematic for a show that lectures it's audience on the importance of the truth to have played so fast and loose with it.

    • @jeremycovelli
      @jeremycovelli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamwells9352 it showed the helicopter hitting the crane cable.. pilot went into the smoke and got disoriented

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremycovelli I have watched a bunch of reactors who assumed that was because of the radiation--and that's kinda the problem. The show allows the audience to believe things that aren't accurate because (ironically) they make for a better story. I couldn't possibly name all examples, but another example of this would be the Scherbina line "I'll have you shot." He never would have. Is it a joke, or an exaggeration? Maybe. But the show lets the audience believe that was a real possibility.

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The helicopter crash was actual footage ... It just happened much later when they were building the confinement building around it, hence the crane being there

    • @hiddenInsight486
      @hiddenInsight486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, the smoke etc was added to it

  • @iraf.official
    @iraf.official หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😎👌👌

  • @jlerrickson
    @jlerrickson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As impressive as this series is, they made a choice that makes my blood boil: they greatly misrepresented Lyudmila Ignatenko's story to create drama. That misrepentation actually led to ignorant and mean spirited people sending her hate mail once the show aired. It completely baffles me that the creators didn't consider the impact that their own lies and exaggerations concerning these events would have on the actual survivors living today, especially given the message of the show.

  • @ElyonDominus
    @ElyonDominus หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her happy ending? Y'all realize what's happening in Ukraine, right?

  • @ReesesPieces634
    @ReesesPieces634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not sure if KIev is an imp[rovement from Chernobyl at the moment

  • @paulwilliams9415
    @paulwilliams9415 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the thing you need to understand is , in the USSR at that time the people were basically drones , you were only taught what you ndeeded to do the job you were asigned , so a radiation wasnt known to the general public , you were told to believe what the "state " told you , nuclear power is safe , a fire is a fire , your a nurse you dont need to know how to fix a car that a mechanics job , eg your father was a farmer ,guess what your a farmer , ( but i have a brain ) to bad your a farmer , do your job and be happy . The people were like , i havea solution to this problem , and get told , we dont need your solution we have somebody already for it , people were always ready to take credit for the good things and pass off blame to others , just like in the court room scene and when the ready of the radiation level was told in episode 2 , it was him who did it , i wasnt there lol

  • @KuvDabGib
    @KuvDabGib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    New reactor which was built there?!?!??!?! WTF?!??! Are you real??
    Get some info first please, dont look like an idiot! I know that USA education sucks, but i had to learn about this accident when I was in elementary school, then in high school and then in university.
    God damn!

    • @buddystewart2020
      @buddystewart2020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They're trying to get their education from this show, it's good enough to spark some interest, but it won't tell you everything. There's some stuff in the show that's downright wrong. But, hopefully, it's enough to get them to take a closer look at what happened and what's going on with it today.

    • @xanamo
      @xanamo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, then maybe you should have skipped one of those lessons on Chernobyl in favor of a lesson on good manners 🤓

    • @KuvDabGib
      @KuvDabGib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@xanamo Sorry - I have zero tolerance for stupidity... Tolerating stupidity is what had bring the world to the place where we are now.

    • @TheAirDuncan23
      @TheAirDuncan23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KuvDabGib You have numerous grammar mistakes with your second sentence. The irony of you having zero tolerance for stupidity is comical.

    • @KuvDabGib
      @KuvDabGib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAirDuncan23 Sry i dont feed the trolls

  • @iche50
    @iche50 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whole series is for 99% true........

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Meh. 60%, maybe?

    • @iche50
      @iche50 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamwells9352 educate yourself...

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iche50 Yeah, I did. I read Higginbotham's _Midnight at Chernobyl_ and watched a ton of content from That Chernobyl Guy. You should try it.

    • @adamwells9352
      @adamwells9352 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iche50 I did. Read Higginbotham's _Midnight at Chernobyl_ and watched a bunch of videos by That Chernobyl Guy. Would love to hear how you concluded that this was 99% true.

  • @johnnicpon5783
    @johnnicpon5783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You have to wonder about the parellels with our current administration. Keeping things from the public until it became impossible to do so anymore. And then replace their candidate with one who never received a single vote. One who they were considering replacing only a few months ago. But now the story line is rewritten. My point is that once you start with lessor impact lies, greater impact lies follow. It always becomes easier as one continues to get away with it. Just think about it.

    • @grizfan93
      @grizfan93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what a loser.

    • @ElyonDominus
      @ElyonDominus หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go away magat.

  • @HalkerVeil
    @HalkerVeil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of ads on TH-cam now is on another level of garbage. And they wonder why people keep seeking out ad blockers.

    • @ElyonDominus
      @ElyonDominus หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pay for the service you use.

    • @HalkerVeil
      @HalkerVeil หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ElyonDominus We already do.