Love the scientific approach very informative. On the GVM topic where does it end, I believe the caravan manufacturers need to have a good at themselves also 3000kg plus vans, no doubt you can do better on the weight saving front.
Good video. Disappointed in the 300 series insofar that you still need a GVM upgrade to tow a 20ft off road van plus all of the accessories required for long term touring. Seriously considering replacing my 200 series with an American pick-up.
American pickups in their 1500 form are the same or worse. RAM DS models particularly have weak rear axles - check out the Jmacx channel; they did a good video on it. You could get a 2500/3500, but do you want all the licensing / parking complications that come with it?
I noticed this review is nowhere near as comprehensive as the review of the Defender. I think your reviews should all be the same so we can get an idea on pros and cons of each tow vehicle we are considering.
interesting, thanks for posting. can you confirm that if there was a GVM upgrade , from your results it 'may' only be good if the axle ratings are increased? also what if more passengers (family) are included?
Hi Ian, as a customer is kindly lending us this vehicle to do these videos we are working around their schedule. At the moment they are out enjoying their new toy! We will hopefully get a tow pro in the 300 next week for them and take it for a tow test before handing it back over.
TBH, I don’t honk Toyota really cares about the aftermarket upgrades. At the end of the day the aftermarket industry assists Toyota by giving them an ‘out’ on certain warranty claims. It’s a WIN/WIN/WIN for them. All the other manufacturers are the same 😏
@@CRUISEMASTERCOUNTRY The 200 does take around 30KG more fuel,so once that is taken off the difference between the two models the weight difference between the two is not huge.
I believe He said he weighs 80kg. When he sat in the drivers seat the front axel load increased by 40kg & the other 40 went to the rear (😂 funny about that). Anyway, he was referring to an extra 40 on the rear axel. Hope that helps.
Not at all. You can have a 300 kg TBM on a 3.5T van, provided you pack the van well. That leaves you with enough payload for the family. Just not much payload left over for aftermarket gear, which you can do without on fam holidays.
@@arielle_australia Reality is Steven, you’ve seen the standard traveller pack. Dual Battery, Bull Bar, Driving lights, winch ……..and BINGO, you’re over GVM 🤷🏼♂️
Love the scientific approach very informative. On the GVM topic where does it end, I believe the caravan manufacturers need to have a good at themselves also 3000kg plus vans, no doubt you can do better on the weight saving front.
you didnt confirm if fuel was full?
Good video. Disappointed in the 300 series insofar that you still need a GVM upgrade to tow a 20ft off road van plus all of the accessories required for long term touring. Seriously considering replacing my 200 series with an American pick-up.
American pickups in their 1500 form are the same or worse. RAM DS models particularly have weak rear axles - check out the Jmacx channel; they did a good video on it. You could get a 2500/3500, but do you want all the licensing / parking complications that come with it?
Ordered mine a week ago same spec same colour:))
I noticed this review is nowhere near as comprehensive as the review of the Defender. I think your reviews should all be the same so we can get an idea on pros and cons of each tow vehicle we are considering.
interesting, thanks for posting. can you confirm that if there was a GVM upgrade , from your results it 'may' only be good if the axle ratings are increased? also what if more passengers (family) are included?
Is the rear chassis of LC300 same to LC200 ??? The question is can I fit Bring towbar from LC 200 on LC300 ???
Waiting for your response
Thanks
Hey guys, when are we going to see the LC300 tow test?
Hi Ian, as a customer is kindly lending us this vehicle to do these videos we are working around their schedule. At the moment they are out enjoying their new toy!
We will hopefully get a tow pro in the 300 next week for them and take it for a tow test before handing it back over.
Still waiting…. 🤨🥲
@@CRUISEMASTERCOUNTRY still waiting
Informative vid has rear axle max load been reduced to 1930 kg 200 series is 1950 kg has the gcm also been reduced on the 300 series?
Looks Like a 18.6 Zone RV off road so should not weigh 3.5 T standard. Did you add weight to make it a measurable 3.5T?
It’s probably loaded to ATM, with full water tanks & possessions. Not really about the Zone, he’s just using it as a weight.
for the money toyota want for one of these you shouldn't need aftermarket upgrades
TBH, I don’t honk Toyota really cares about the aftermarket upgrades. At the end of the day the aftermarket industry assists Toyota by giving them an ‘out’ on certain warranty claims. It’s a WIN/WIN/WIN for them. All the other manufacturers are the same 😏
Is the colour graphite?
How much fuel was in it at testing ?
Good point
We always weigh vehicles with a full tank
@@CRUISEMASTERCOUNTRY Excellent 👍
@@CRUISEMASTERCOUNTRY The 200 does take around 30KG more fuel,so once that is taken off the difference between the two models the weight difference between the two is not huge.
130 k left , ha ha ,$120,000,
40 kg increase with the driver in and "Allowing 40kg for an additional passenger"....what for, another 12 year old?
I believe He said he weighs 80kg. When he sat in the drivers seat the front axel load increased by 40kg & the other 40 went to the rear (😂 funny about that).
Anyway, he was referring to an extra 40 on the rear axel. Hope that helps.
Is this a 4-cyl version? 🤪
So basically another massive fail for anyone wanting to tow a 3.5t van and take the family away on holidays - over weight and uninsured.
Not at all. You can have a 300 kg TBM on a 3.5T van, provided you pack the van well. That leaves you with enough payload for the family. Just not much payload left over for aftermarket gear, which you can do without on fam holidays.
@@arielle_australia nice thought but its just not going to happen.
@@Nascup The math checks out. Kerb weight +150kg for two passengers + 300 TBM leaves you with 163kg payload.
@@arielle_australia Reality is Steven, you’ve seen the standard traveller pack. Dual Battery, Bull Bar, Driving lights, winch ……..and BINGO, you’re over GVM 🤷🏼♂️