Yo stark. Since Ed boon clearly sees your videos which is amazing. You should make a video on what sub needs to be viable. IMO all he needs is for stand 21 to restand. It would allow him to set up the clone safely and improve his offense and anti airs etc. we should try to get word to nrs to get them to make this change
I like subzero, he’s actually decent. But raiden is mad underrated, lit they nerfed his dmg and people told “now he is garbage”. Man, I could almost consider it high tier 😭😭😭
The worst is that he is solid, but they have buffed weaker characters (havik, nitara and shang tsung), kameos like striker which works pretty well with baraka or they have godlike sinergy with new kameos; ferra and scorpion.
Maybe people should expand their horizons and try other cameos, other than what TH-camrs play, I play tremor with sub, not cuz it’s good (it’s straight up unfair at points) but cuz it brings me joy, telling yall stop saying he’s bottom tier when you go based off one tier list with only broad knowledge on what the character can do with other characters not just the top tiers
@@Real_StarK i challenge everyone to experiment with a random cameo that they don’t use and pair it with there main regardless if it helps there character be “top tier” all I’m saying is everyone lacks creativity and only carbon copies everyone, I let my buddy pick my last two characters to learn he picked Shang tremor and I honestly didn’t think they’d work but it’s deadly
Yeah, bi han is probably the best written character in mk1's story. I'm curious if they'll use him in the next expansion or focus more on shao and reiko trying to tame onaga/shang tsung having a tournament on his island.
The only time Sub-Zero has been high tier was in MK3 (He was number 1), and then in Ultimate he was nerfed super hard. And he's been consistently mid or low tier ever since. Meanwhile Scorpion right now in MK1 is around mid-high tier in my experience.
I’m getting tired of people saying “but he’s broken with Khamelon” or “well Kameos are meant to be be used” not understanding that Kameos aren’t infinite and at that point you’re playing the kameo
SUB ISNT BAD 😭 THAT OVERHEAD IS ABSURD… AND THAT DOUBLE LOW???? DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT SHIT(you still the goat tho i just have a personal vendetta against how they made sub in this)
@@Real_StarK and that’s the problem with the overhead it shouldn’t be hitting so much with it being that slow but the amount of times I see even good players getting hit by it is absurd
No matter how hard hating ass NRS tries to hold back sub zero the grandmaster will gain his day of vengeance of Buffs to destroy everyone in the MK1 kombat roster. Long live the grandmaster sub zero bi han👻💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉🐉🐉🩸. F all the haters!
Hold On, I wouldn't say he's The worse, I think geras Is probably the worst and as a Sub-zero main getting god rank every season I do see he is kinda bad But Not hard to win with
nah bro, that hide behind the clone is mad annoying, you either lose your ability to break if you go for the punish or forced to reset, sub has his matchups he just gets outzoned by every other zoner🫡
@@Real_StarK i play this game every once in and a while and sub everywhere on KL and im ass at this game so i get cooked, on that note you tryna some sets, gotta learn the sub matchup somehow!
@@Real_StarK ice clone broken ,divekick broken , good range 15 frame mid , mix with cameo ,good s2 , nice damage 300 no meter , 400 with meter ,one of the best projectile in game , one of the best armor move in game. So... Downplayed.
@@gomori404 umm hmm... 1. Ice klone - punishable by half of the roster and a lot of characters don't even need Armor to punish that, takes 4-5 seconds to be used again... ASS RECOVERY 2. Dive kick... Broken???? Hell naww you can upblock that shit of just take it on your head for a full combo punish 3. it is better not to have a mid instead of having a 15F MID and what range? 4. He got no meterless launchers and is HIGHLY dependent on kameos... Subzero got nothing of his own... So..... TRASH CHARACTER
@@Real_StarK1. 5 seconds of recovery is too little for this option because you always have to respect his stagers because he can cancel into a clone, I have a good reaction, but playing with sub is always random 2. Divekick at 16 frames with instant startup almost unreact 3.This is a good attack with a good attack distance 4. It's not as important as you write about it 5. I forgot to write that he also has one of the best projectiles in the game bf2, and one of the best armor moves in the game. So... Downplayed...
@@Real_StarKPlayers on scorpion also whined a lot that their character was garbage, and now we have one of the dumbest characters in the game who has a broken neutral and mix you for free
![SKILLED Scorpion Vs CARRIED Scorpion... Who'll Win? [Mortal Kombat 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RFZq7GatCdg/mqdefault.jpg)
When mfs start to make you ZONE AS ZUB, you can really feel the darkness creeping in lmao 😭
@@edd4131 haha facts... Sub can't do shit against zoning with that trash ass ice ball and slow startup bf2
@@Real_StarK and then our slide has so many standing frames you can take a shit and still punish sub
Yo stark. Since Ed boon clearly sees your videos which is amazing. You should make a video on what sub needs to be viable. IMO all he needs is for stand 21 to restand. It would allow him to set up the clone safely and improve his offense and anti airs etc. we should try to get word to nrs to get them to make this change
Tbh I have given up on buffing subzero now... NRS doesn't listen to us and they keep buffing characters who don't need a buff
havik was low tier - got buff
nitara was low tier - got buff
scorpion was low tier - got buff
NRS definitely hates him((
@@-maestro7640 😭
@@Real_StarK he also got buff, but as a new character 😭
he anyway will be my fav character
😂😂bruh true
Nitara never needed buffs at all. Idiots were complaining about being beat up to much for being trash at the game. All facts and fuck nitara!
That INTRO is just everything, "OBEY YOUR GRANDMASTER!"
Thanks bro
NRS hates Sub so much, they turned him into Noob
@@GamerGuyOG fax
And Noob is far better than Sub btw
Bro watching that liu was pissing me off, he deserved those tbags lol
LMAO
@@Sandhawk77 all liu kang players do the same shit
every liu player deserve this, especially liu + lao
It's so frustrating to face them when liu can do big damage but most of them just want to zone
Sub Zero is far from the weakest when he's in your hands bro.
But he is 😶
He still needs some better damage. He probably does the least in the entire roster
Ur amazing tho I got the game 2 days ago n id say im pretty good so far n now watching u I’ll be better
@@derekjauregui4712 good luck bro
I wonder whos gonna get the next buff before Sub 💀
Havik
I’ve been seeing a lot of tier lists and people are saying he’s better than raiden bro some people shouldn’t cook 💀
No way
I like subzero, he’s actually decent. But raiden is mad underrated, lit they nerfed his dmg and people told “now he is garbage”. Man, I could almost consider it high tier 😭😭😭
Preaching to the choir homie
Buff Sub Zero 💪
Buff sub
The worst is that he is solid, but they have buffed weaker characters (havik, nitara and shang tsung), kameos like striker which works pretty well with baraka or they have godlike sinergy with new kameos; ferra and scorpion.
Yeah... Sub in general is trash and highly carried by Khameleon
I will start using Subzero in the kombat league this season, any advice?
@@Gallegaldo don't use subzero
Use Noob instead.
@@Real_StarK It's like the scene in the Incredibles when Mr. Incredible tells the kid to go away and not to help him🥲
@@Gallegaldo LMAO
@@Real_StarK don't do sub like that😂...I'm almost in demi rank with him but it's been hella rough!!
li mei is getting 47% off of 1 bar, sub is so bottom tier its not even funny😭
@@iguuacio 😭😭
Said this before and I’ll say it again Bi Han is cool as Sub Zero but he’s even better as Noob Saibot
I see
I swear looking at bro hve to do like 5-10 combos just to win a round is crazy when u peep it. Subs rlly b doing chip damage
😭😭
Maybe people should expand their horizons and try other cameos, other than what TH-camrs play, I play tremor with sub, not cuz it’s good (it’s straight up unfair at points) but cuz it brings me joy, telling yall stop saying he’s bottom tier when you go based off one tier list with only broad knowledge on what the character can do with other characters not just the top tiers
If there was a tier list for the most enjoyable and fun character subzero would be top 5...
@@Real_StarK i challenge everyone to experiment with a random cameo that they don’t use and pair it with there main regardless if it helps there character be “top tier” all I’m saying is everyone lacks creativity and only carbon copies everyone, I let my buddy pick my last two characters to learn he picked Shang tremor and I honestly didn’t think they’d work but it’s deadly
@@Tachonka_Bonka719 i have literally used EVERY kameo with subzero so I don't think this challenge is for me haha.. anyone else can do it
@@Real_StarK fairs fair, then use any cameo with any character
❄I hope to see more Sub-Zero videos. ❄
Yessir
Damn noob saibot took the record
😂
Netherrealm's server on Europa rn😭
@@Rei_IsJustHere I live in India
@@Real_StarK it was a joke and I was referring to one of Juipter's moons Europa
@@Rei_IsJustHere ohh haha
Scorpion main but I must agree that sub zeros caracter suits him perfectly for the first time I mean his name is sub zero he cant be a good guy
@@MKScorpion493 I am totally fine with subzero being a bad guy but atleast don't make him bottom tier 😭
Yeah, bi han is probably the best written character in mk1's story. I'm curious if they'll use him in the next expansion or focus more on shao and reiko trying to tame onaga/shang tsung having a tournament on his island.
Ice will cover this land
😉
OBEY YOUR GRANDMASTER!
❄️
Sub zero cant even freeze the opponents... Liu Kang for example.. can combine projectiles....
😭
The only time Sub-Zero has been high tier was in MK3 (He was number 1), and then in Ultimate he was nerfed super hard. And he's been consistently mid or low tier ever since. Meanwhile Scorpion right now in MK1 is around mid-high tier in my experience.
Tf are you talking about, he was broken in mkX and mk11
Mk11 subzero was top 5 lol
@@Real_StarK But then Scorpion is a low tier there because you can't do any good combos without meter. All you have is 2, 1, xDF4x.
I’m getting tired of people saying “but he’s broken with Khamelon” or “well Kameos are meant to be be used” not understanding that Kameos aren’t infinite and at that point you’re playing the kameo
Facts
@@Real_StarK most other characters also get damage of their mix but sub gets like 33% max meterless
that lag makes my blood boil
😂😂
@@Real_StarK i once fought a player that had 8000 ping
Not only the weakest but the cheapest and easiest character to use
@@Ghostface_St1nger101 sub is easy to learn but not easy to master
I already missed sub zero 🥶
@@TheTony2000 I am back on subzero 😉
@@Real_StarK thanks, I look forward to those videos 😄
OBEY YOUR GRANDMASTER
😉
After this update sub is probably the worst character rn.
Yeah... The only character who didn't got buffed
Can we play some sets I need to work on my sub zero brother man?
Send me a friend request on WB bro
SUB ISNT BAD 😭 THAT OVERHEAD IS ABSURD… AND THAT DOUBLE LOW???? DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT SHIT(you still the goat tho i just have a personal vendetta against how they made sub in this)
@@Redicnick bro that overhead is so fucking slow everyone reacts to it.. and what's even wrong with that double low?
@@Real_StarK the low if you use scorp, mavado, Janet, anyone like that it combos for at least 30%
@@Real_StarK and that’s the problem with the overhead it shouldn’t be hitting so much with it being that slow but the amount of times I see even good players getting hit by it is absurd
@@Redicnick scorpion mavado and Janet are not even his optimal kameos... And again it's just a mixup block it easy
@@Real_StarK 🤷♂️I’m lowkey ass at the game mb homie sub just annoys me to play against lol
No matter how hard hating ass NRS tries to hold back sub zero the grandmaster will gain his day of vengeance of Buffs to destroy everyone in the MK1 kombat roster. Long live the grandmaster sub zero bi han👻💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🐉🐉🐉🩸. F all the haters!
@@Krod1995 FACTS
Hold On, I wouldn't say he's The worse, I think geras Is probably the worst and as a Sub-zero main getting god rank every season I do see he is kinda bad But Not hard to win with
Geras is probably the most downplayed character in mk1
Bro thinks he’s Sikander555
What if he is
@@zachariademessia then Queen Elizabeth is still alive and well
Bruh
How wtf lol
@StarK_Takahashi ignore him. At least he's self aware he's toxic 😂
Absolutely not 🙈 he is the most downplayed by his mains, however he is med tier now
@@davidpst nope
@@Real_StarK sure, Scorpion is still also low tier in your opinion ? 🤔
@@davidpst scorpion is top 5-10
@@Real_StarK yes agree. With Ferra they are new meta 🙈
There’s a 50% combo for sub zero why don’t u ever use that one?
Which one?
@@Real_StarK Theres a vid here on TH-cam idk how to explain it 😭
@@derekjauregui4712 which kameo?
@@Real_StarK no kameo used he does the freezing ice on the ground 3 times in a row tho. Look it “50 % sub zero mid screen combo”
@@derekjauregui4712 that's pre patch subzero combo bro.. if you do that now you won't even get 30% haha
You have been using noob for too long. You are out of form with sub
@@ektrfirefox2571 that's true haha
I just hate lui kang zoner's !
@@zoopytv1549 80% of liu kangs zone whole game
@@Real_StarK This video should studied by all sub players on how to deal with Liu's zoning.
@@Real_StarK fax
Just pick sub Cameo use shield 🛡️ n zone him back.. I do it every night to zooners.. jump back ice clone . shield Spam ice ball..
@@IPLAET7 got it 👍
well... mkx is still there...
And nobody plays that trash game anyway 🗑️ 🙈
@@davidpst ewww a mk1 kid
Goatkx
nah bro, that hide behind the clone is mad annoying, you either lose your ability to break if you go for the punish or forced to reset, sub has his matchups he just gets outzoned by every other zoner🫡
A clone that is punishable by half of the roster
@@Real_StarK i play this game every once in and a while and sub everywhere on KL and im ass at this game so i get cooked, on that note you tryna some sets, gotta learn the sub matchup somehow!
bro sub is broken because
Because!?
@@Real_StarK bruh my comment got deleted, i said in my comment lmao jk this character sucks ass
Facts
L take 😂
Facts
Downplayed...
@@gomori404 no downplay only facts
@@Real_StarK ice clone broken ,divekick broken , good range 15 frame mid , mix with cameo ,good s2 , nice damage 300 no meter , 400 with meter ,one of the best projectile in game , one of the best armor move in game. So... Downplayed.
@@gomori404 umm hmm...
1. Ice klone - punishable by half of the roster and a lot of characters don't even need Armor to punish that, takes 4-5 seconds to be used again... ASS RECOVERY
2. Dive kick... Broken???? Hell naww you can upblock that shit of just take it on your head for a full combo punish
3. it is better not to have a mid instead of having a 15F MID and what range?
4. He got no meterless launchers and is HIGHLY dependent on kameos... Subzero got nothing of his own...
So..... TRASH CHARACTER
@@Real_StarK1. 5 seconds of recovery is too little for this option because you always have to respect his stagers because he can cancel into a clone, I have a good reaction, but playing with sub is always random
2. Divekick at 16 frames with instant startup almost unreact
3.This is a good attack with a good attack distance
4. It's not as important as you write about it
5. I forgot to write that he also has one of the best projectiles in the game bf2, and one of the best armor moves in the game. So... Downplayed...
@@Real_StarKPlayers on scorpion also whined a lot that their character was garbage, and now we have one of the dumbest characters in the game who has a broken neutral and mix you for free