@@petspetspetsgalore9090 I must’ve forgotten about them. I was worried the video would be too long as well, but after the edits it’s not even 20 minutes 😂
i think kenshi should get a buff with his force push it should be cancelable like ermacs cancel what are your thoughts wouldn't make him broken just more fun play not.in sento stance
Hey man I think they should give general shoa his hammer back ha ha ha otherwise you are right players should take time to learn the character they want to use like for example Dyloch can use general shoa very well it shows he has taken the time to learn him and choose a right kemeo for him and other example like Rewind he plays Reako very well or Onlinecale who gets very far on online tournaments by using peacemaker still, but with all that spoken I think Sub-Zero definitely needs a buff especially his ice attack watch how cantstopthetrain uses him so we'll but with all of that he Sub-Zero still lacks a buff.thqnk you I watch all your videos especially when I am doing night shift as I am Right now can't wait for more please do me a favor and STAY! UNDERDOG 😂😂😂😂❤😅
Not putting Nitara in PLZ NERF is insane. You literally cannot make a mistake fighting her or it’s a guaranteed 40-50. And most of those people in PLZ BUFF do not need buffs. WHY would GERAS… who can CONSTANTLY pause you need a buff.. ..You just need to know how to play em and/or pair them with a good kameo. Actually, NONE of those guys need buffs.
Nah nitara doesn’t need a nerf, nitara with ferra need a nerf. Nitara without ferra is nowhere near as strong (also she has sucked the whole game up until now so don’t nerf her with ferra for a while)
And the same can be said the other way against nitara, any mistakes she makes causes her to lose 40-50% because of her low health and how massively punishable she is. And geras definitely needs the buffs, imo he’s bottom 1 now that havik got buffed and even if not he’s definitely bottom 3. Hope he gets some love soon.
I mean one takes meter one doesnt, they're two different moves and if you want another freeze just use cyrax then. Cyrax can't net twice in a combo, whether it's the kameo twice or the character twice
@@iamb0nk3rs two crumble attacks. An example would be kameo scorpion overhead or rains fully charged projectile. You can't do both in one combo. I'm referring to non ex net.
Finally, someone in the mk community that understands tierlists and doesnt put every character in the top three slots just because they dont think any character is bad enough to go into C tier or below. Tierlists are supposed to be ranking the characters on a spectrum based on the absolute best and absolute worst. Even if the game is fairly balanced, there should still be some kind of even distribution on the list. That being said, bro is smoking rock to not have havik in the broken tier.
Being a Raiden main I fully agree on your comments for him. Raiden is long due for buffs. Feels like for a while he was too good and NRS wanted to have other characters played. Great comments as always man! Keep it up!
Are we just skipping talking about the Shao nerfs? Why did they need to nerf Shao. His command grab combos were probably the best thing he had going for him.
@dejavu8632 not much skill in putting someone in an infinite of pressure that keeps it his turn you guess wrong once or try to take a turn that's 400 % + more chip. Not to mention the sento last forever and he can reset it to continue to abuse it. 😅
Command grab combos were the best thing he had going for him? You must be bad with Shao if that's the case for you. Them nerfing the damage of that cheap armored command grab doesn't affect good Shao players,his 50-50 mixups are still strong and oppressive especially when axe down,his neutral and whiff punishing still amazing,damage of his bnb are still great,nothing has changed for me
3:07 I feel like Embrace Khaos was meant to be this overpowered state similar to Spawn’s Soul Forfeit in MK11. The problem is that in my opinion, Embrace Khaos isn’t cracked enough to warrant how restrictive it is. I would say make the buff last for the entire round, but as a downside you lose the clone for the next round. It would make it to where it’s great as a second round closing tool, but if you lose that match you’re paying for it by not having Saibot in the final round.
or just make it faster and last 5 seconds if you spend a bar. it’s so ass right now. he also should always have the mid string that he needs to have embrace khaos to use.
As someone thats been maining sektor recently, i finally understand why sub mains want him to be buffed. I used to think "sub is insanely good when paired with khameleon, so theres no point in buffing him", but now im starting to feel just how limiting that can be. Sektor, with the right kameos, can do good damage fairly consistently. Without them, though, youre gonna have to meter burn hard to get 30%+ reliably. It kinda sucks considering how cool her combos look.
@Eternal_Sacrifice to be fair, i said "reliably". That being said, combo damage alone isnt really a good metric for what characters are good. I mean, ive posted some videos where you can see that 50%+ meterless combos are universal when using shujinko. That doesnt make every single character broken, nor does it make shujinko the best kameo, since there are plenty of other factors to consider.
Yeah, low damage has always been her drawback. It's why I stopped playing her about 4 months into the game. If felt like I had to do way too much for a drop of blood.
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer before the patch her damage was ok she could do at least 40% with both kameo bars and after the patch she can barely do above 39%, and if u want to get high damage u have to use ur fatal blow without her fatal she can barely reach 40% so now I just stopped playing her as well oh and her guidances thingy is wayyy too slow sure they buffed it a little but now she depends on it so i understand why it’s this slow it way too punishable personally the only thing that needed to be nerfed was her armor that’s all
@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer why are you lying? Prior to her nerfs tanya had decent dmg. And you didn't have to work as her at all. She was an easy character.
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayerur crazy. everyone knows tanya was the easiest character with the best mid. she didn’t do crazy damage cuz her neutral is top tier
No more nerfs aside Cyrax command grab plz... Buff Shao Khan and Omniman.. These 2 really need to be lore accurate.. Omniman is being bullied with his mixups.. His playstyle is just plain.. Give Shaos back 3 mid into grab atleast like why its a grab input when we got overhead for it
@@petalsxox dude there’s no way you play him enough if you say that. He has NO mix at all unless he has a kameo. No low overhead mixup strings, no grab strings, no command grab, and just about every string he has contains gaps. Just about every move he does is highly unsafe and fairly easy to react to. Try Omni man in Kombat league against good players and you’ll start to understand.
@@gavinwatschke9179 Omniman has a whole ass string that is 0 on block, meaning he can mash poke after to steal his turn, or backdash or whatever. Also, this is an assist game, so you HAVE to include kameos when you think about whether or not he needs buffs. He can get a full combo from full screen with his clap projectile into mavado. He can call jax to ground pound from full screen and do a safe neutral skip in viltrumite stance. Omni is fine as he is.
@@lilleonmuks6493my guy 0 on block means even if I mash down 1 we both get hit. Also jax doesn’t always get a neutral skip but even if or when he does what do you have to be scared of when he is up close? Yes kameo are apart of the game but they shouldn’t be what your character relies on. Noob, Cyrax, smoke, reptile, Johnny, rain, and more all have overhead/low or some sort of grab mixup incorporated into their move set whereas Omni man doesn’t. He’s lacking in mixup potential however the only thing that makes up for it slightly is his optimal meter less damage but I’d rather have lower damage and a fun move set rather than no actual mixup and high damage. There’s many videos I can have you watch if you’re still not convinced.
Great tier list, but I find when I play geras against people I lost to previously with other top tier characters such as Johnny, kenshi, and nitara, I sweep the floor with them. If you put in enough practice into one character, that character will become top tier
As a new kenshi player I can agree he is very strong with sento but at the same time without sento he's vulnerable until you either spend meter to recharge or banish him which is often difficult to do without giving an opening. As well as getting into sento stance safely isn't easy for someone who knows the matchup, his forward 22 is slow, stand 12 is both mids and stand 14 starts high and has a gap. Im not sure how nrs can really change kenshi without making it be too much against him besides his enhanced db2 in sento stance costing 2 meters instead of one to make his recharge have some drawback but at the same time kenshi doesn't use much meter regardless.
@@TyToppie I would say specifically to projectiles. The game can become kinda brain dead when you can full screen spam projectiles, build meter, and throw punish the enemy once they get close.
I don't know if someone already thought of this but, in mk1 DLC you know when Tanya and rain K,O lemai and rako what if edboon is trying to tease a main character and kmeo fatality or like a tagtality 💯🔥
No more nerfs besides Cyrax command grab plz.. You can use Sub Zero freeze straight after command grabbing you giving her free combos😭 But Ive been doing fine against the 2 condiments.. Homelander is fine.. I barely find allot of Homelanders.. Give Johny his delayed parry back(I dont play Johny).. Buff Shao Khan and Omniman PLEASE NRS
As a homelander main he is def crazy. 47% no bar each touch with ferra is insane, He has a basically full screen grab move which can again go into a 40% with ferra, insane mixups with fly cancel which is even crazier with ferra. Even without ferra is has good DMG in corner and good DMG mid screen with still crazy good mixups. Finally he has very good projectiles which covers most areas of the screen.
Also I main shang tsung and I do agree with your teir list but he should be a little bit higher. I just had to point out that your claim that he is good based on the kameo is not actually true, the kameo moves he steals are different and give different utilities. They're not all created equal but they all have their purpose ranging from a safe on block special with Goro, a great wake up denier with Mavado, an unblockable grab with Ferra, a combo extender with Tremor, a 7 frame reversal with Sareena, the MKX run mechanic with Shujinko, or a solid mix up with Sonya. They're small additions that can enhance his gameplay but none are significant enough to "make or break" his kit. I will admit, some are better than others but I digress. In the end, he's a zoner with good combos and really good counter zoning. Top of mid or bottom of strong. Also I should point out that I always felt the claim that he's good depending on the opponent is really dumb. He can morph in anyone with a damage buff so...he S+ teir? He can be homelander with a damage buff. Sindel with higher damage. He can morph and combo someone to death(damage buff) and then morph back and zone someone to death. Not to mention combos exist of him morphing mid-combo. He already has a fully fleshed out kit with all the bells and whistles while his morphs are more of a gimmick with utilities built-in. They should be a cherry on top and not the deciding factor.
Shang is my second most played character. I think he’s decent but I personally wouldn’t say he’s among the upper half of the roster. Could you expand as to why you think he’s as good as you say he is?
@@WigglyJigs1Like I said in my first comment, I do agree with his placement on the tier list for the most part. He is good in many ways but in many other ways, he's not good enough. Like no solid ways to open the opponent up. That's why I think it's best that he stays in the mid teir but higher up on the mid teir. My comment was more about criticism towards his comment on shang tsung and how he focused on the new morphing ability to mimic Kameo moves, which is useful, but he has more to offer than just morphing. It was pretty much the basis of my initial comment. I just think his kit has a lot of good attributes overall like unique moves, good buttons, morphing gimmick, and respectable damage with no meter or kameos. All of that in one character can help him deal with many characters both up close and long-range (with the help of kameos of course). I just think he had a lot more to show for to be higher up on the tier list, more the underdog gaming gave him credit. But make no mistake, the best mid character is still a mid character. Hence my statement of him being at the top of mid.
The kameo morph is good but not what he needed. He still struggles with coming forward and his buttons up close are not opening any good player up.They should fully commit on him being a tricky character and make his regular morph have no animation. He should be able to switch into his opponent the same way he switches between old and young. Maybe even be able to morph mid combo string
I don't known. Is from the Takeda's patch that for some players (me included) can't play online for a bug. And this bug is the most voted in the bug report section.
I main KL, I don’t mind the armored launcher nerf. What I DO mind is even with spending 2 bars his full EX move doesn’t come out consistently which is frustrating and has led to losses.
One more thing for takeda. His so called “damage buffs” aren’t even noticeable and also his combo damage was nerfed severely where one kameo and one bar was like almost 500 damage now it barely goes over 400
>With the Kung Lao's ground hat Omin-Man can create a hard to block situation, that leads to a full combo He already had that with his Invincible Flight move. And with Kung Lao or Jax you can't combo out of his new f2 anyway. In fact i don't think he can combo after that at all with anyone but Mavado. And with Mavado he doesn't have a setups. So this "buff" really does nothing, Omni-Man almost hasn't changed at all
i respect your tier list but i have different opinion on some charachters. i am kenshi main since release and i dont think he needs a nerf, its hard to play him in kombat leauge against high ranks because its hard to get opening and go in sento mode and if you manage to go in sento mode still some strings have gaps and everyone is using it. it may be hard to play against him but when you get to know him inside he is easy to break. about other charachters what you said was preatty accurate but i would change some charachters tiers
With certain kameos, Kenshi doesn’t even need to get the hit to go into Sento stance. Kameos like Stryker and I believe Cyrax too can just let him get it on block. Also, every time he goes for a string with Sento, he can go for mix afterwards, being that a low or an overhead. Sure, maybe it can leave gaps, but he can also go for gapless strings to prioritize pressure instead of mix. Also, the fact that he can call Sento back for just one bar is absolutely insane to me. And finally, trying to zone him out many times won’t even work cuz he got the running move that deflects projectiles. This is all just my opinion but I think he just has way too many things in his favor with way too little risk.
@j.u.i.c.e607 I'm sorry but are you dumb? There is no point in flawless blocking it. It's still -7 therefore not punishable. Some of yall play this game for 1000 hours and STILL have no idea what you're talking about man it's insane.
No nerfs to anyone! Please buff or rework up to the best characters. Nerfs ruin the fun for most people and make them leave the game, but buffs make people interested in trying someone new and not forcing them to learn someone new like nerfs.
I think nerfs are still needed to have balance. A game like Dragon Ball FighterZ for example has been buffing and buffing everyone and reached a point where the game seems like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse for how silly it is, and reaching that point can also drive people away from the game.
@@Shangjinko no that’s exactly my point with FighterZ. For example, in terms of defensive options in FighterZ, you got: Reflect, guard cancel, guard vanish, and reversals. There’s like no reason to block. And buffing everyone more and more will eventually make the game be less about strategy and more about abusing the strong stuff your character has.
I don't know DBFZ has been over buffing the system mechanics and I'm just done with it. I haven't been enjoying the buffs they've given out and it's made the game so ridiculous I found it hard to keep up. Trust me over buffing is a thing and it makes the game get to a level where it feels like a new game and not the game you want to play.
For some "OP" characters - i agree. For example, while decent Johnnies and Homelanders were always completely destroing me, it almost never felt unfair (and when it did - it mostly because of the ping, i suspect). TUD said, that there is always glitches in favour of the homelander - i oftenly see otherwise, for example, when the punch from airBF2 - 1 passes right through opponent without hitting him for no fucking reason. Kenshi, on the other hand, is just ridiculous, sometimes even armor doesn't help to get out of his idiotic sento pressing.
In my option, Tanya is not mid tier. People think that her armored wake up was her only strong move. Yes they nerfed her armored wake up, but her parry is buffed and can now absorb projectiles. Her 211 mid is still strong asf also.
her F211 string was shadow nerfed too. It's slower now so yea, they gutted her hard af. The parry projectiles isn't even worth the nerfs Also her dmg was shadow nerfed. So if you think tanya dealt low dmg before, now it's even less
@@Orgrimmar21 I will say you’re not lying about that. She was definitely nerfed but not as bad as peacemaker and Baraka. Yes her 211 is a bit slower but as a Tanya main today, people still have a hard time dealing with it. I do agree 100% that they nerfed her damage as well. But, I still prevail even through the nerfs. This is strictly my opinion I don’t wanna speak for everyone else.
Havik is definitely higher up than that. Having a TOD, and instant air dive kick that is safe from max range, real 50/50's, an armored launcher, "hard to fuzzy" mix, 1100 HP, solid damage off any touch, a ton of plus frames, solid pokes AND Sonic saying he's top 1. Sonic wouldn't be trying to main Havik if he wasn't a top 1 contender bro.
You should make a video on ranking the strongest character in universe. I would say noob or ermac are the strongest and reptile or smoke would be the weakest ninja
The one nerf for Tanya all of a sudden she is trash? All you tanya players were just carried players. Only doing that spin kick and wakeup and using Goro. Lao is not bad eveything they just nerf one thing for that character and that makes them trash? You are all carried Tadeka, ermac, peacemaker ARE NOT TRASH! They are all A. Everyone is just used to being carried.
No, that's not the only nerf tanya's got. She got some shadow nerfs not mentioned in the patch list Her dmg was reduced. Her F2 string is now slower (Her only most reliable combo starter) Her guidance charge is now way more slow (this one was mentioned in patch list tho) Her speed overall was reduced All that on top of her Spinning kicks nerf. And she still has no mix in her strings. Her 1 2 string is shortest range in the game and her low string has no combo followup. So yea.. they pretty much downed her a lot. In fact.. most Tanya mains didn't give af about the spinning kicks nerf because actual tanya mains do not use Goro/Tanya, that's just for the low elos who don't know how to play against that. High tanya players go Motaro - Sonya - Ferra - Khameleon and only ferra let you play similar than goro, but you don't play ferra for that, only because she gives you 50/50 combo starters which tanya does not have at all TrueUnderdawg doesn't play tanya so he doesn't know like 90% of all these changes. She is in the pls buff tier
@@Kaeydo Nope.. His armor is now non spamable like Tanias and to keep it safe or plus when used 2 meters is fair enough.. My opinion is hes on the good list.. If buff then they should buff the spinning move of his again make it plus on hit with push back and or instantly juggle on hit when not blocked or just makd it like he always has where he gets a free launch and punishable on block like mkx or mk11.. Aside that hes still good.. Has armor break.. Has mixups and zoning.. Has good airdive.. Theres characters who has it waay worse than Lao
How about instead of nerfing top 5 we just buff the other 20 characters that severely need it, MK has always been the most fun when every character has some bullshit
@@spidey7437 naw it's needs to be a healthy balance ⚖️ having 50% combos into a unblockable into another 50% shouldn't exist. Cyrax bomb loop shouldn't be as strong. Nitara meterless launcher divekick into 50% shouldn't exist. Not being able to tell if homelander is in the air on the ground shouldn't exist lol if they do buff everyone we need more defensive options
@@zuberi17 if everyone is broken then nobody is, only problem I see with cyrax is her command grab and her hit box. the three new characters have been the most fun to play because they all have some bullshit that they’re trying to do. Mkx is considered the best MK because even the low tiers had some stupid shit going on
On your strong list, I’m putting Mileena #1 & Noob Saibot #2 they got easy combo damage when you open your opponent up. They both have mix and different routes to go into combo, Noob has everything, Mileena I just put above noob bc her Pokes are faster
My personal issue with Mileena is her lack of long range options. I feel like she struggles when she faces someone that constantly runs away or that tries to zone her out.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming true but as much as we smoke mains would love a buff there's too many people who don't bother learning the character causing him to stay the same which sucks because smokes biggest weakness is an opponent with solid fundamentals
As a rain main rain is ok he’s just slow so his matchups to quicker characters isn’t good he just can’t deal with pressure all that much also rain doesn’t do well with juggling none of his strings can really juggle a airborn character and if a opponent jumps when you use forward 213 your getting punished because the low drops all the time and even tho the animation shows the water going around him it doesn’t hit behind him so yeah not a bad character but he has something’s that can become a pain
BUFF SMOKE PLEEEEEEAAAAAASE Bring the one frame shake back with smoke away and forward (should be 6 frames startup and both progectile invinceble enhanced is fully invincible) mk9 smoke bomb (14 frames startup) should be back and mk9 teleport should be back (13 frames startup) mkx low overhead combostarters should be back also enhanced smoke bomb would restand and leave yo +50 and get a free jumpin and after that you vortex the opponents btw if you hit any of that its a free followup with no meter spent mk9 3 d1 2 launcher should be back and any hit is safe or 0 on block so you can stagger That should be good!
@@Eyukiz-sanyah you obviously don’t play smoke he’s literally bottom 2, has gaps on everything, worst armor in the game , no mid , no winning matchups , his low crusher doesn’t even work , loses to low jab, his main win condition loses to armor.
@@Lara.amn79 this is obviously a troll comment or ur very very bad at the game, as soon as you said cancel take bars I can’t take you seriously, why would a negative frame move that has gaps cost a bar? There’s no point in nerfing invisibility duration ur supposed to make use of it right away or get punished for the wrong mixup why would nerfing its duration do anything??
@@smokeenenra57 that invisibily is broken when smoke has tons of overheads and lows in most of his strings and the aponent has to block like 3 mixups without even seeing them,and he getss 40 or more with those mixups But maybe nerfing his damage would be better instead
SMOKE DOES NOT NEED A BUFF 😤 he can do meterless combos for big damage and his teleport game is already insane. On top of that he can just use his cancel to extend his combos if he wants. You pair that up with Sereena as your cameo and that is just free damage. I don't know what type of baby smokes y'all be going against but the smoke players I be getting (IN CASUALS) be out here playing like it's ranked and their life is on the line. 😭 I'm just trying to play the game after getting off work
Ermac should be much higher. He is consistently used by pros to defeat and win against the top tiers. Also, what kind of judgement is “he needs a kameo character?” The game is inherently an assist fighter, everyone both has and needs kameos. Making him dependent on a select few does not make him any weaker, because you obviously factored in optimal kameo choice with the other characters like Scorpion. Also Reptile with Mavado is an easy top 10
I had to comment because I saw your tier list and I saw you put peacemaker at the very bottom. That is factually incorrect. Peacemaker is bad compared to what it used to be but that's because peacemaker was genuinely an Apex predator in the game he was at the top of the Pyramid and he stood alone compared to everyone. They nerved him so now he's no longer bad he's just comparable to everyone. His buttons are solid, he still has damage, his zoning is great, and his kit is so versatile with nearly all kameos. He should be higher up than shang tsung. He's only weak when you compared him to what he used to be. But even then, he was way too strong and needed to be nerfed. He's now on par.
At this point the only character i wanna see nerfed is Homelander, the others, well just leave them as they are. Netherrealm hasn't learned how to actually nerf top tiers so they don't become the worst characters in the game.
Takeda is trash not only they berf his dmg but also nerf his combo route You Can't B-2,1 to teleport overhead up to 3 times anymore. And you can't after B-2,tointo ex spear frome air 2,4 B-F 3 doesn't confirm 😑
Takeda is fine you trash player, he needed that nerf. Keep getting 50% and all takeda players do that same long boring rope teleport combo. You were just a carried trash yolo player.
saw some people mention liukang gotta shadow nerf, 333 now hit opponent furthet away and cant be connect to db4 and jump in pressure. And liukang main confirm this?
i like this Tier list for now. finally Asharah aslo not S on the list, here called ``plz nerf`` Ashrah is just as u say and she`s also has been for a long time. Shes need staggers or moves, she needs no buffs. shes to easy to read. Period with here mix set.
I disagree with the havik placement as a havik main. He has no med attacks so all your starters either high or low so you can easily avoided if the opponent knows. Not to mention havik has a lot of gabs so I'll put it mid or low strong
I think he’s still pretty good regardless. He has a bigger health pool than others, his damage rose exponentially with this patch, getting like 45-50% combos meterless, his slow armored move hits like a truck, and he now has a new air overhead move that goes pretty far and can even launch with meter. As for the gaps, I’d say it’s a matter of baiting armored moves from the opponent if you see them going for them.
My main youtube account was permanently banned for no reason. I don't even post videos just watch them and I never put hateful comments. Where do I appeal?
Hard disagree about Smoke. Online he is a monster. Unless this is an offline tier list....that makes sense. But he is extremely annoying to fight online lol
I don't really agree with a lot of the characters in bottom or mid. Also noob is kinda being downplayed. I do think there is ig a power creep? It feels like a lot of the new characters just have better kits. Adding one move to certain characters really isn't enough.
Noob, Ermac, Ashrah and Rain are better than Kitana by far. U made a video once about kitana being broken with jax... so, reconsider. Tanya is close to Ermac for real, she did not became useless. For real? none of the buff section actually need any buffs, most weakness are covered by kameos. Shao and Baraka can take Li Mei's place. Plz Nerf is real, specially Cyrax. IMO
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Bro, why didn’t you mention the Shao nerfs? They destroyed my boy when he wasn’t even high tier.😭
@@petspetspetsgalore9090 I must’ve forgotten about them. I was worried the video would be too long as well, but after the edits it’s not even 20 minutes 😂
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming no worries I’m just poking fun, it helps dull the pain.
i think kenshi should get a buff with his force push it should be cancelable like ermacs cancel what are your thoughts wouldn't make him broken just more fun play not.in sento stance
Hey man I think they should give general shoa his hammer back ha ha ha otherwise you are right players should take time to learn the character they want to use like for example Dyloch can use general shoa very well it shows he has taken the time to learn him and choose a right kemeo for him and other example like Rewind he plays Reako very well or Onlinecale who gets very far on online tournaments by using peacemaker still, but with all that spoken I think Sub-Zero definitely needs a buff especially his ice attack watch how cantstopthetrain uses him so we'll but with all of that he Sub-Zero still lacks a buff.thqnk you I watch all your videos especially when I am doing night shift as I am Right now can't wait for more please do me a favor and STAY! UNDERDOG 😂😂😂😂❤😅
Not putting Nitara in PLZ NERF is insane. You literally cannot make a mistake fighting her or it’s a guaranteed 40-50. And most of those people in PLZ BUFF do not need buffs. WHY would GERAS… who can CONSTANTLY pause you need a buff.. ..You just need to know how to play em and/or pair them with a good kameo. Actually, NONE of those guys need buffs.
Why should Geras be buffed? Because Sub mains keep crying thats why
Buff Smoke
Nah nitara doesn’t need a nerf, nitara with ferra need a nerf. Nitara without ferra is nowhere near as strong (also she has sucked the whole game up until now so don’t nerf her with ferra for a while)
@@masonwheeler9211 you may be right about this. I haven’t played a Nitara without Ferra in a long time so I wouldn’t know how she plays otherwise.
And the same can be said the other way against nitara, any mistakes she makes causes her to lose 40-50% because of her low health and how massively punishable she is. And geras definitely needs the buffs, imo he’s bottom 1 now that havik got buffed and even if not he’s definitely bottom 3. Hope he gets some love soon.
Cyrax net shouldn't combo into the kameo cyrax net. You can't do a sub zero combo with two clones why is this a thing.
I mean one takes meter one doesnt, they're two different moves and if you want another freeze just use cyrax then. Cyrax can't net twice in a combo, whether it's the kameo twice or the character twice
This doesn't make sense. Uts two different characters
@@sheraznabbie8235 literally the same capture animation. You can't do two crumble attacks
@@zuberi17 ?
@@iamb0nk3rs two crumble attacks. An example would be kameo scorpion overhead or rains fully charged projectile. You can't do both in one combo. I'm referring to non ex net.
Thanks for showing me the tier list in the beginning. I gotta atmit i skipped to the end of the video just to see the full tier-list
I love your vids, but i have an idea for a vidio where you react to fans tier lists and give them some sort of rating
Finally, someone in the mk community that understands tierlists and doesnt put every character in the top three slots just because they dont think any character is bad enough to go into C tier or below. Tierlists are supposed to be ranking the characters on a spectrum based on the absolute best and absolute worst. Even if the game is fairly balanced, there should still be some kind of even distribution on the list. That being said, bro is smoking rock to not have havik in the broken tier.
Imo smoke doesnt need buffed hes already annoying to fight
Being a Raiden main I fully agree on your comments for him. Raiden is long due for buffs. Feels like for a while he was too good and NRS wanted to have other characters played. Great comments as always man! Keep it up!
Are we just skipping talking about the Shao nerfs? Why did they need to nerf Shao. His command grab combos were probably the best thing he had going for him.
Facts they nerf shao before they give something like sento stance real nerf😠
@@DreadfulOtaku it takes a lot of skill to play kenshi tho, so i dont even get mad when i lose to kenshi.
@dejavu8632 not much skill in putting someone in an infinite of pressure that keeps it his turn you guess wrong once or try to take a turn that's 400 % + more chip. Not to mention the sento last forever and he can reset it to continue to abuse it. 😅
Command grab combos were the best thing he had going for him? You must be bad with Shao if that's the case for you.
Them nerfing the damage of that cheap armored command grab doesn't affect good Shao players,his 50-50 mixups are still strong and oppressive especially when axe down,his neutral and whiff punishing still amazing,damage of his bnb are still great,nothing has changed for me
@@DreadfulOtaku it's not that easy to do tho....
0:28 I am the "tons of people". Just for that I instantly subbed!!!
3:07 I feel like Embrace Khaos was meant to be this overpowered state similar to Spawn’s Soul Forfeit in MK11. The problem is that in my opinion, Embrace Khaos isn’t cracked enough to warrant how restrictive it is.
I would say make the buff last for the entire round, but as a downside you lose the clone for the next round. It would make it to where it’s great as a second round closing tool, but if you lose that match you’re paying for it by not having Saibot in the final round.
or just make it faster and last 5 seconds if you spend a bar. it’s so ass right now. he also should always have the mid string that he needs to have embrace khaos to use.
Yea I agree I really think that would make more sense cuz of how restricted you are after using embrace the khaos
Love your videos man, and I love MK1!!! Keep up the great work!!!
I don't understand why they still refuse to actually nerf Kenshi and JC.
As someone thats been maining sektor recently, i finally understand why sub mains want him to be buffed. I used to think "sub is insanely good when paired with khameleon, so theres no point in buffing him", but now im starting to feel just how limiting that can be. Sektor, with the right kameos, can do good damage fairly consistently. Without them, though, youre gonna have to meter burn hard to get 30%+ reliably. It kinda sucks considering how cool her combos look.
32% without any kameo or meter, mate.
@Eternal_Sacrifice to be fair, i said "reliably". That being said, combo damage alone isnt really a good metric for what characters are good. I mean, ive posted some videos where you can see that 50%+ meterless combos are universal when using shujinko. That doesnt make every single character broken, nor does it make shujinko the best kameo, since there are plenty of other factors to consider.
I hit like because you showed the tier list right away. It’s also why I’m commenting.
Tanya needs a damage buff cuz her damage just sucks after the nerf
She is fine, you are just a carried trash yolo player
Yeah, low damage has always been her drawback. It's why I stopped playing her about 4 months into the game. If felt like I had to do way too much for a drop of blood.
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer before the patch her damage was ok she could do at least 40% with both kameo bars and after the patch she can barely do above 39%, and if u want to get high damage u have to use ur fatal blow without her fatal she can barely reach 40% so now I just stopped playing her as well oh and her guidances thingy is wayyy too slow sure they buffed it a little but now she depends on it so i understand why it’s this slow it way too punishable personally the only thing that needed to be nerfed was her armor that’s all
@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer why are you lying? Prior to her nerfs tanya had decent dmg. And you didn't have to work as her at all. She was an easy character.
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayerur crazy. everyone knows tanya was the easiest character with the best mid. she didn’t do crazy damage cuz her neutral is top tier
I want everyone to just be good enough that they stand a chance against each other, instead of just nerfing every good character into the ground.
Love your videos keep them coming , at least even I don't have a next gen console to play the game I I follow Evey video
Get a job
No more nerfs aside Cyrax command grab plz... Buff Shao Khan and Omniman.. These 2 really need to be lore accurate.. Omniman is being bullied with his mixups.. His playstyle is just plain.. Give Shaos back 3 mid into grab atleast like why its a grab input when we got overhead for it
Fr dude I want him to have a command grab. It would really fit his stance and give him some more pressure/mix with the plus frames
if u think omni man needs another buff ur rly not playing him right.
@@petalsxox dude there’s no way you play him enough if you say that. He has NO mix at all unless he has a kameo. No low overhead mixup strings, no grab strings, no command grab, and just about every string he has contains gaps. Just about every move he does is highly unsafe and fairly easy to react to. Try Omni man in Kombat league against good players and you’ll start to understand.
@@gavinwatschke9179 Omniman has a whole ass string that is 0 on block, meaning he can mash poke after to steal his turn, or backdash or whatever. Also, this is an assist game, so you HAVE to include kameos when you think about whether or not he needs buffs. He can get a full combo from full screen with his clap projectile into mavado. He can call jax to ground pound from full screen and do a safe neutral skip in viltrumite stance. Omni is fine as he is.
@@lilleonmuks6493my guy 0 on block means even if I mash down 1 we both get hit. Also jax doesn’t always get a neutral skip but even if or when he does what do you have to be scared of when he is up close? Yes kameo are apart of the game but they shouldn’t be what your character relies on. Noob, Cyrax, smoke, reptile, Johnny, rain, and more all have overhead/low or some sort of grab mixup incorporated into their move set whereas Omni man doesn’t. He’s lacking in mixup potential however the only thing that makes up for it slightly is his optimal meter less damage but I’d rather have lower damage and a fun move set rather than no actual mixup and high damage. There’s many videos I can have you watch if you’re still not convinced.
Great tier list, but I find when I play geras against people I lost to previously with other top tier characters such as Johnny, kenshi, and nitara, I sweep the floor with them. If you put in enough practice into one character, that character will become top tier
As a new kenshi player I can agree he is very strong with sento but at the same time without sento he's vulnerable until you either spend meter to recharge or banish him which is often difficult to do without giving an opening. As well as getting into sento stance safely isn't easy for someone who knows the matchup, his forward 22 is slow, stand 12 is both mids and stand 14 starts high and has a gap. Im not sure how nrs can really change kenshi without making it be too much against him besides his enhanced db2 in sento stance costing 2 meters instead of one to make his recharge have some drawback but at the same time kenshi doesn't use much meter regardless.
He's not vulnerable you just don't have good fundamentals you're vulnerable not kenshi
Ashrah has NEVER been nerfed in this game, but she keeps falling in these tier lists. Everyone used to say she was top 5
Yea shes still top 5 idk what these content creators are on 😂
@@subscriberswithOnlyonevi-zm2ixnah she’s not bruh. she’s a great character but not top 5 no more
@petalsxox literally nothing has changed about her I don't want to hear it 😂
@@petalsxox she has literally NEVER been nerfed. How is she not still top 5
@@isctaylor109 others just got stronger, that's all. Though I also think that she's at least top 10, if not 5
Was looking for smoke to hear "We gonna skip smoke" :D
you are wrong about Kung Lao's armor. The second kick when you spend another bar is safe at -2, which was even more safe than what it was before.
They need to nerf the chip damage!!!
In general?
@@TyToppie I would say specifically to projectiles. The game can become kinda brain dead when you can full screen spam projectiles, build meter, and throw punish the enemy once they get close.
@@francoisdelrio1824 Perfect description of Reiko🤣
@@TyToppie lol you already kno!!!😂😂😂
i agree with reiko but zoning sucks in this game. so chip is the only thing they got
I don't know if someone already thought of this but, in mk1 DLC you know when Tanya and rain K,O lemai and rako what if edboon is trying to tease a main character and kmeo fatality or like a tagtality 💯🔥
Hate me for this.......
We need God Raiden back. He doesn't have to be Liu Kang level of course but, this Raiden is disappointing...
You are Goddamn right.
Yes, nobody likes Twink Raiden.
Seeing scorpion at top 10 makes me so happy😭 I’ve been a scorpion main since mk10 and seeing how he was mid in almost every game was so sad😭🙏🙏
No more nerfs besides Cyrax command grab plz.. You can use Sub Zero freeze straight after command grabbing you giving her free combos😭 But Ive been doing fine against the 2 condiments.. Homelander is fine.. I barely find allot of Homelanders.. Give Johny his delayed parry back(I dont play Johny).. Buff Shao Khan and Omniman PLEASE NRS
Fair
As a homelander main he is def crazy. 47% no bar each touch with ferra is insane, He has a basically full screen grab move which can again go into a 40% with ferra, insane mixups with fly cancel which is even crazier with ferra. Even without ferra is has good DMG in corner and good DMG mid screen with still crazy good mixups. Finally he has very good projectiles which covers most areas of the screen.
Also I main shang tsung and I do agree with your teir list but he should be a little bit higher. I just had to point out that your claim that he is good based on the kameo is not actually true, the kameo moves he steals are different and give different utilities. They're not all created equal but they all have their purpose ranging from a safe on block special with Goro, a great wake up denier with Mavado, an unblockable grab with Ferra, a combo extender with Tremor, a 7 frame reversal with Sareena, the MKX run mechanic with Shujinko, or a solid mix up with Sonya. They're small additions that can enhance his gameplay but none are significant enough to "make or break" his kit. I will admit, some are better than others but I digress. In the end, he's a zoner with good combos and really good counter zoning. Top of mid or bottom of strong. Also I should point out that I always felt the claim that he's good depending on the opponent is really dumb. He can morph in anyone with a damage buff so...he S+ teir? He can be homelander with a damage buff. Sindel with higher damage. He can morph and combo someone to death(damage buff) and then morph back and zone someone to death. Not to mention combos exist of him morphing mid-combo. He already has a fully fleshed out kit with all the bells and whistles while his morphs are more of a gimmick with utilities built-in. They should be a cherry on top and not the deciding factor.
Shang is my second most played character. I think he’s decent but I personally wouldn’t say he’s among the upper half of the roster. Could you expand as to why you think he’s as good as you say he is?
@@WigglyJigs1Like I said in my first comment, I do agree with his placement on the tier list for the most part. He is good in many ways but in many other ways, he's not good enough. Like no solid ways to open the opponent up. That's why I think it's best that he stays in the mid teir but higher up on the mid teir. My comment was more about criticism towards his comment on shang tsung and how he focused on the new morphing ability to mimic Kameo moves, which is useful, but he has more to offer than just morphing. It was pretty much the basis of my initial comment. I just think his kit has a lot of good attributes overall like unique moves, good buttons, morphing gimmick, and respectable damage with no meter or kameos. All of that in one character can help him deal with many characters both up close and long-range (with the help of kameos of course). I just think he had a lot more to show for to be higher up on the tier list, more the underdog gaming gave him credit. But make no mistake, the best mid character is still a mid character. Hence my statement of him being at the top of mid.
@@kino5484 I understand. I agree too.
The kameo morph is good but not what he needed. He still struggles with coming forward and his buttons up close are not opening any good player up.They should fully commit on him being a tricky character and make his regular morph have no animation. He should be able to switch into his opponent the same way he switches between old and young. Maybe even be able to morph mid combo string
havik is the one of the most op characters best mixups in the game he is atleast top 5
Fr he’s one of my mains I mastered him
I actually prefer seeing the whole list upfront in the beginning. Seems easier to follow but could just be me lol
I don't known. Is from the Takeda's patch that for some players (me included) can't play online for a bug. And this bug is the most voted in the bug report section.
Your new tier list came out different than thought.
I don't Skip to the end
I Respect your Content
I main KL, I don’t mind the armored launcher nerf. What I DO mind is even with spending 2 bars his full EX move doesn’t come out consistently which is frustrating and has led to losses.
Without knowing how any of them play, where do ghostface, conan and the t-1000 rank. For me I predict:
S: T - 1000
B: Ghostface
D: Conan
T-1000 will be god tier if he's accurate to the film.
@@Johnsbigwick797nahh fr I really want him
Why didn’t you talk about Quan Chi man??
And Sub! He forgot maybe?!
One more thing for takeda. His so called “damage buffs” aren’t even noticeable and also his combo damage was nerfed severely where one kameo and one bar was like almost 500 damage now it barely goes over 400
Kenshi literally has a move to 2v1 the opponent
Honestly the power levels are pretty good. I don't think people need crazy buffs or nerfs... But that Havik change though. KHAOS!
>With the Kung Lao's ground hat Omin-Man can create a hard to block situation, that leads to a full combo
He already had that with his Invincible Flight move. And with Kung Lao or Jax you can't combo out of his new f2 anyway. In fact i don't think he can combo after that at all with anyone but Mavado. And with Mavado he doesn't have a setups. So this "buff" really does nothing, Omni-Man almost hasn't changed at all
I have To Pay More Attention to Takeda now to see if he's the Slowest Player
BIG DAMAGE NERF to Takeda! 😭 Still but OUCH!
i respect your tier list but i have different opinion on some charachters. i am kenshi main since release and i dont think he needs a nerf, its hard to play him in kombat leauge against high ranks because its hard to get opening and go in sento mode and if you manage to go in sento mode still some strings have gaps and everyone is using it. it may be hard to play against him but when you get to know him inside he is easy to break. about other charachters what you said was preatty accurate but i would change some charachters tiers
With certain kameos, Kenshi doesn’t even need to get the hit to go into Sento stance. Kameos like Stryker and I believe Cyrax too can just let him get it on block.
Also, every time he goes for a string with Sento, he can go for mix afterwards, being that a low or an overhead. Sure, maybe it can leave gaps, but he can also go for gapless strings to prioritize pressure instead of mix.
Also, the fact that he can call Sento back for just one bar is absolutely insane to me.
And finally, trying to zone him out many times won’t even work cuz he got the running move that deflects projectiles.
This is all just my opinion but I think he just has way too many things in his favor with way too little risk.
How is it hard to get an opening? His f2 is one or the best normals in the game. A disjointed far reaching MID that can't be punished. Stop it lmao.
@@subscriberswithOnlyonevi-zm2ix it can be flawles blocked and every guy knows that
@j.u.i.c.e607 I'm sorry but are you dumb? There is no point in flawless blocking it. It's still -7 therefore not punishable. Some of yall play this game for 1000 hours and STILL have no idea what you're talking about man it's insane.
@j.u.i.c.e607 it's still-7 when flawless blocked therefore flawless blocking is useless. Lmfao dude.
See! I told yall Ashrah was "mid" now!
No nerfs to anyone! Please buff or rework up to the best characters. Nerfs ruin the fun for most people and make them leave the game, but buffs make people interested in trying someone new and not forcing them to learn someone new like nerfs.
I think nerfs are still needed to have balance.
A game like Dragon Ball FighterZ for example has been buffing and buffing everyone and reached a point where the game seems like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse for how silly it is, and reaching that point can also drive people away from the game.
@@WigglyJigs1buff everyone for balance, add more defensive options
@@Shangjinko no that’s exactly my point with FighterZ. For example, in terms of defensive options in FighterZ, you got:
Reflect, guard cancel, guard vanish, and reversals. There’s like no reason to block.
And buffing everyone more and more will eventually make the game be less about strategy and more about abusing the strong stuff your character has.
I don't know DBFZ has been over buffing the system mechanics and I'm just done with it. I haven't been enjoying the buffs they've given out and it's made the game so ridiculous I found it hard to keep up. Trust me over buffing is a thing and it makes the game get to a level where it feels like a new game and not the game you want to play.
For some "OP" characters - i agree. For example, while decent Johnnies and Homelanders were always completely destroing me, it almost never felt unfair (and when it did - it mostly because of the ping, i suspect). TUD said, that there is always glitches in favour of the homelander - i oftenly see otherwise, for example, when the punch from airBF2 - 1 passes right through opponent without hitting him for no fucking reason. Kenshi, on the other hand, is just ridiculous, sometimes even armor doesn't help to get out of his idiotic sento pressing.
Hot take but havik and scorpion both deserve to be in top 5 and I personally think they're both better than kenshi and johnny lol
I wouldn’t do anymore nerfs… only power ups, especially for Shang Tsung and Shujinko 😊
In my option, Tanya is not mid tier. People think that her armored wake up was her only strong move. Yes they nerfed her armored wake up, but her parry is buffed and can now absorb projectiles. Her 211 mid is still strong asf also.
her F211 string was shadow nerfed too. It's slower now so yea, they gutted her hard af.
The parry projectiles isn't even worth the nerfs
Also her dmg was shadow nerfed. So if you think tanya dealt low dmg before, now it's even less
Wise words
@@Orgrimmar21 I will say you’re not lying about that. She was definitely nerfed but not as bad as peacemaker and Baraka. Yes her 211 is a bit slower but as a Tanya main today, people still have a hard time dealing with it. I do agree 100% that they nerfed her damage as well. But, I still prevail even through the nerfs. This is strictly my opinion I don’t wanna speak for everyone else.
@@rocky2k685the mid is a lot less safe as well. it’ll take time since they kinda reworked her so we’ll see were she ends up
is she more fun now ?
I wish nrs knew that instead of nerfing, buff everyone that isn’t top tier
Jhonny in Very Good for me, Havik in pls nerf is the number one right now, but the game no needs nerf, need balance or buff
As a Smoke Main I don't understand the want for a buff I think he's fine
I am glad for the rise of Nitara, I hope that they will give her some more health
I just found a Easteregg in Madame boo shop there are pictures of mk11 characters on the wall
What you think of Cyrax - Cyrax play(Cyrax doubles as a cameo)
I can confidently say that smoke needs a huge buff
You should do a noob shujinko I got 40 to 54 with 1 or no bar.
Havik is definitely higher up than that. Having a TOD, and instant air dive kick that is safe from max range, real 50/50's, an armored launcher, "hard to fuzzy" mix, 1100 HP, solid damage off any touch, a ton of plus frames, solid pokes AND Sonic saying he's top 1. Sonic wouldn't be trying to main Havik if he wasn't a top 1 contender bro.
You should make a video on ranking the strongest character in universe. I would say noob or ermac are the strongest and reptile or smoke would be the weakest ninja
The one nerf for Tanya all of a sudden she is trash? All you tanya players were just carried players. Only doing that spin kick and wakeup and using Goro. Lao is not bad eveything they just nerf one thing for that character and that makes them trash? You are all carried Tadeka, ermac, peacemaker ARE NOT TRASH! They are all A. Everyone is just used to being carried.
Bruh finally someone understands 💯thought I was the only one. Tanya was so f*ckin wack cheesing ass karacter like a he ones you mentioned.
@@hanzohasashi2522 finally someone see eye to eye with me. All these players are trash carried and yolo. That's why they are mad.
More than just her wake up was nerfed they shadow nerfed her ENTIRE mid string, slowed her walk speed and dropped her already low damage
No, that's not the only nerf tanya's got. She got some shadow nerfs not mentioned in the patch list
Her dmg was reduced.
Her F2 string is now slower (Her only most reliable combo starter)
Her guidance charge is now way more slow (this one was mentioned in patch list tho)
Her speed overall was reduced
All that on top of her Spinning kicks nerf.
And she still has no mix in her strings. Her 1 2 string is shortest range in the game and her low string has no combo followup.
So yea.. they pretty much downed her a lot. In fact.. most Tanya mains didn't give af about the spinning kicks nerf because actual tanya mains do not use Goro/Tanya, that's just for the low elos who don't know how to play against that. High tanya players go Motaro - Sonya - Ferra - Khameleon and only ferra let you play similar than goro, but you don't play ferra for that, only because she gives you 50/50 combo starters which tanya does not have at all
TrueUnderdawg doesn't play tanya so he doesn't know like 90% of all these changes. She is in the pls buff tier
@@fifthinspector5892really...???
I feel like kenshi shouldnt be in the plz nerf tier because many ppl in top 10 can counter pick kenshi
Kung Lao, Raiden and Geras is waaayyy better than Shao💀 Im speaking as a Shao main since day one and still going in KL
Lao doodoo now
@@Kaeydo
Nope.. His armor is now non spamable like Tanias and to keep it safe or plus when used 2 meters is fair enough.. My opinion is hes on the good list.. If buff then they should buff the spinning move of his again make it plus on hit with push back and or instantly juggle on hit when not blocked or just makd it like he always has where he gets a free launch and punishable on block like mkx or mk11.. Aside that hes still good.. Has armor break.. Has mixups and zoning.. Has good airdive.. Theres characters who has it waay worse than Lao
Agreed.
@@aronvaasa8576Nah. Lao is garbage.
Sigh we Takeda mains just keep getting cooked
YES! Nitara is SCARY AF and a better character. At least the mech girls are new! I KNEW they would nerf my co-main! 😵😢 Takeda is still fun but OUCH!
@@OpenMiker-rp4eo I won’t drop him because I played him in x and I’ve put so much time into learning his combos but sheesh
How about instead of nerfing top 5 we just buff the other 20 characters that severely need it, MK has always been the most fun when every character has some bullshit
@@spidey7437 naw it's needs to be a healthy balance ⚖️ having 50% combos into a unblockable into another 50% shouldn't exist. Cyrax bomb loop shouldn't be as strong. Nitara meterless launcher divekick into 50% shouldn't exist. Not being able to tell if homelander is in the air on the ground shouldn't exist lol if they do buff everyone we need more defensive options
@@zuberi17 if everyone is broken then nobody is, only problem I see with cyrax is her command grab and her hit box. the three new characters have been the most fun to play because they all have some bullshit that they’re trying to do. Mkx is considered the best MK because even the low tiers had some stupid shit going on
Khaos is coming, you must be prepared
Reptile is not mid Tier anymore lol, he should be in the strong tier with all the buffs he got over the past few months.
I find it funny that Mid tier isnt the middle of the tier list.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO MORE NERFS
TAKEDA DAMAGE NERF! I KNEW they were gonna nerf my co-main! He’s still fun but him fighting Cyrax or Sektor?! 😵
On your strong list, I’m putting Mileena #1 & Noob Saibot #2 they got easy combo damage when you open your opponent up. They both have mix and different routes to go into combo, Noob has everything, Mileena I just put above noob bc her Pokes are faster
My personal issue with Mileena is her lack of long range options. I feel like she struggles when she faces someone that constantly runs away or that tries to zone her out.
@@WigglyJigs1nah her biggest issue is having one mid that isn’t good. If someone microducks against her you essentially lose
Skips over smoke like that isn't what's causing him to need buffs rn
@@Tokiyotomare2814 I mean he’s in the plz but tier 🤣
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming true but as much as we smoke mains would love a buff there's too many people who don't bother learning the character causing him to stay the same which sucks because smokes biggest weakness is an opponent with solid fundamentals
As a rain main rain is ok he’s just slow so his matchups to quicker characters isn’t good he just can’t deal with pressure all that much also rain doesn’t do well with juggling none of his strings can really juggle a airborn character and if a opponent jumps when you use forward 213 your getting punished because the low drops all the time and even tho the animation shows the water going around him it doesn’t hit behind him so yeah not a bad character but he has something’s that can become a pain
Cyrax+Movado Is Underrated
BUFF SMOKE PLEEEEEEAAAAAASE
Bring the one frame shake back with smoke away and forward (should be 6 frames startup and both progectile invinceble enhanced is fully invincible) mk9 smoke bomb (14 frames startup) should be back and mk9 teleport should be back (13 frames startup)
mkx low overhead combostarters should be back
also enhanced smoke bomb would restand and leave yo +50 and get a free jumpin and after that you vortex the opponents
btw if you hit any of that its a free followup with no meter spent
mk9 3 d1 2 launcher should be back and any hit is safe or 0 on block so you can stagger
That should be good!
WTF SMOKE DOESN'T NEED AND DAMN BUFFS! HE IS ALREADY A BROKEN CHARACTER! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE! YOU JUST WANT TO GER CARRIED 😂😂😂
@@Eyukiz-sanyah you obviously don’t play smoke he’s literally bottom 2, has gaps on everything, worst armor in the game , no mid , no winning matchups , his low crusher doesn’t even work , loses to low jab, his main win condition loses to armor.
Smokes invisibily is as broken as kenshis sento
I think they should make invisibily duriation lower and make his cancels take bars
@@Lara.amn79 this is obviously a troll comment or ur very very bad at the game, as soon as you said cancel take bars I can’t take you seriously, why would a negative frame move that has gaps cost a bar? There’s no point in nerfing invisibility duration ur supposed to make use of it right away or get punished for the wrong mixup why would nerfing its duration do anything??
@@smokeenenra57 that invisibily is broken when smoke has tons of overheads and lows in most of his strings and the aponent has to block like 3 mixups without even seeing them,and he getss 40 or more with those mixups
But maybe nerfing his damage would be better instead
SMOKE DOES NOT NEED A BUFF 😤 he can do meterless combos for big damage and his teleport game is already insane. On top of that he can just use his cancel to extend his combos if he wants. You pair that up with Sereena as your cameo and that is just free damage. I don't know what type of baby smokes y'all be going against but the smoke players I be getting (IN CASUALS) be out here playing like it's ranked and their life is on the line. 😭 I'm just trying to play the game after getting off work
Ermac should be much higher. He is consistently used by pros to defeat and win against the top tiers. Also, what kind of judgement is “he needs a kameo character?” The game is inherently an assist fighter, everyone both has and needs kameos. Making him dependent on a select few does not make him any weaker, because you obviously factored in optimal kameo choice with the other characters like Scorpion. Also Reptile with Mavado is an easy top 10
Dude, you better NEVER make a tierlists.
I had to comment because I saw your tier list and I saw you put peacemaker at the very bottom. That is factually incorrect. Peacemaker is bad compared to what it used to be but that's because peacemaker was genuinely an Apex predator in the game he was at the top of the Pyramid and he stood alone compared to everyone. They nerved him so now he's no longer bad he's just comparable to everyone. His buttons are solid, he still has damage, his zoning is great, and his kit is so versatile with nearly all kameos. He should be higher up than shang tsung. He's only weak when you compared him to what he used to be. But even then, he was way too strong and needed to be nerfed. He's now on par.
When shang turns into sonya its not safe on block
Mo way you put shao in mid, do you even play the game? (I main shao)
At this point the only character i wanna see nerfed is Homelander, the others, well just leave them as they are. Netherrealm hasn't learned how to actually nerf top tiers so they don't become the worst characters in the game.
Not smoke I thought he was good nnnooooo dawg
Takeda is trash not only they berf his dmg but also nerf his combo route
You Can't B-2,1 to teleport overhead up to 3 times anymore. And you can't after B-2,tointo ex spear frome air 2,4 B-F 3 doesn't confirm 😑
Takeda is fine you trash player, he needed that nerf. Keep getting 50% and all takeda players do that same long boring rope teleport combo. You were just a carried trash yolo player.
Love Takeda NEVER GONNA CALL MY GOAT TRASH
Wym up to 3 times
@@WigglyJigs1 before patch you could B-12 to B-F 3 up telport up overhead 3 times. You cant any more. The telport is now a mid not a overhead
@@yokoyokome5281 but i don’t understand the “3 times part”. As in using it 3 times in a row?
saw some people mention liukang gotta shadow nerf, 333 now hit opponent furthet away and cant be connect to db4 and jump in pressure. And liukang main confirm this?
Peacemaker is not bad he should be in the strong tier
The rest of the cast should just get buffed like the tops. If everyone is busted, no one is.
-Syndrome
buff everyone for balance, add more defensive options
i like this Tier list for now.
finally Asharah aslo not S on the list, here called ``plz nerf`` Ashrah is just as u say and she`s also has been for a long time.
Shes need staggers or moves, she needs no buffs.
shes to easy to read. Period with here mix set.
All I know is Noob is my new main no matter what buffs or nerfs he'll receive in the future 🫡
I disagree with the havik placement as a havik main. He has no med attacks so all your starters either high or low so you can easily avoided if the opponent knows. Not to mention havik has a lot of gabs so I'll put it mid or low strong
I think he’s still pretty good regardless. He has a bigger health pool than others, his damage rose exponentially with this patch, getting like 45-50% combos meterless, his slow armored move hits like a truck, and he now has a new air overhead move that goes pretty far and can even launch with meter.
As for the gaps, I’d say it’s a matter of baiting armored moves from the opponent if you see them going for them.
Kitana has always been weak. The only part of mk where she can do anything is mk 10
Buff Quan Chi and Sub zero. As a Quan main give this man more health pleaseee
My main youtube account was permanently banned for no reason. I don't even post videos just watch them and I never put hateful comments. Where do I appeal?
Geras in pls buff if rediculous
Hard disagree about Smoke. Online he is a monster. Unless this is an offline tier list....that makes sense. But he is extremely annoying to fight online lol
You forgot to mention haviks 109% kombo
His w h a t
Maybe 3-bar combo?!
I don't really agree with a lot of the characters in bottom or mid. Also noob is kinda being downplayed. I do think there is ig a power creep? It feels like a lot of the new characters just have better kits. Adding one move to certain characters really isn't enough.
Noob, Ermac, Ashrah and Rain are better than Kitana by far. U made a video once about kitana being broken with jax... so, reconsider. Tanya is close to Ermac for real, she did not became useless.
For real? none of the buff section actually need any buffs, most weakness are covered by kameos. Shao and Baraka can take Li Mei's place.
Plz Nerf is real, specially Cyrax. IMO
NRS No nerfs pls buff other characters, please help rayden
Lol here we go again you calling for nerfs you the reason the game dying