He found his good people. The closest thing to getting it changed to a solo game is actually finding people you can trust. It's the eventual gift of talking about it publicly and going back regardless of your annoyance.
RIGHT?! Party fouls are the freaking worst! Guy asks for help in a challenge area, rolls need on everything that drops. Doesn't share the quest so I can get credit. I take an hour of my time to help him out and get lieterally nothing for it. Fuck people.
It sounds like Pat wants to play Xenoblade Chronicles X. Massive world, engaging story, lots of quests, and all single player, aside from optional multiplayer with 0 bearing on the actual game. Or Witcher 3. Or FFXII. Or...
no, he wants an MMO where the main story is entirely single player content. because I'm playing that game, and early level guildheist is fucking shit with the wait times because the long wait is fucking retarded.
maxspecs but I play DPS. like, I just dont feel confident enough to play tank, so I play a more supportive role. and one time, a tank quit before a dungeon started. me and the group I was with waited for over half an hour and NOTHING.
The sad state of the game is that no one wants to play tank, and so this is what always happens. Try out Marauder. You're going to be terrible at holding aggro until level 30, until you get a proper "tank stance". But once you hit level 50, you'll get your "dps stance" and be doing more damage than the dragoon next to you, while being able to take hits far easier than him.
My favorite thing about Pat talking about playing with the FC and fans of SBFP and Woolie keeps asking about how "randoms are bad but these people are somehow better?" And not understanding when Pat says yes. Pat never says it but let's be real. When the FC was started and people joined it. They probably worked really really hard to be good at the game so as to not piss off Pat.
I'm patient till the 15th whipe. after that I'm gonna either a. throw my monitor out the window or b. put every file of the game on a external state drive and throw that out the window
Before, it was because you can hit level cap and steamroll through it. NOWADAYS, you can solo it with a party of NPCs, though I wish you had the option of having like you, a single other person in your party, and 2 NPCs, but that's good too.
linkinpark227 Dude I dropped that shit hard please find these (Insert X Items) for me to progress. Do it come back tells me to talk to someone else 10 minutes away on the other side of the map. Love Star Wars but the MMO formula cause my fun to shrivel.
They do have full storymodes now, not just class specific ones. I mostly enjoyed it because it was a MMO with an actual focus on story, and some solid ones at that.
Maybe it's because I never had to play on American servers, but the only reason I ever disliked playing WoW with other people was when players were too focused on power-gaming and bruteforced past sections of dungeons while ignoring the atmosphere. Maybe it's because Europeans players are just better at MMOs? Looking at WoW, the top guilds are mostly European and Asian, with just one or two American guilds. I can't imagine that it would be very different for Final Fantasy XIV.
It's just that those players playing with you at the time probably already played those dungeons multiple times and they're there just for the rewards and stuff, it becomes a problem when someone in the party is new and wants to walk around and stuff, I was on both sides of that situation and that just made me give up as soon as I noticed that was a thing
Pat complains that the guildhests made to teach new people have people who are learning and don't know how to play yet lol. Also fucking Ultros? No wonder bad people. Jump to Faerie good sir!
FFXIV has that bad Quest design. You should never tie dungeons to the main storyline, and if you do, you should make it possible for people to solo them. Blade & Soul is fantastic for that, there you can either play most dungeons solo or in a party. Not because I don't want to team up with people. But because i don't want to wait 30-60 minutes in a queue to finish a mandatory quest. That is bullshit.
Meanwhile, on Pat's Twitter in 2021: "I just finished playing one of the best games of my life"
Not even one of, I'm pretty sure he said THE best game he's ever played
How the times have changed. Pat won’t shut up about how much he loves ff14.
He found his good people. The closest thing to getting it changed to a solo game is actually finding people you can trust. It's the eventual gift of talking about it publicly and going back regardless of your annoyance.
It's funny coming back to this after xiv added the trust system turning ARR into basically a single player rpg
MMOs prove that "Hell is other people."
I cannot believe Pat just wanted fucking Blue Mage
Oh, i totally agree with Liam and Pat, cooperating with other people is worst part in MMO's.
You know it's real when Liam & Pat agree on something
Like with the Superman discussion.
"You're right Woolie. You can win an argument if you just change what words mean."
RIGHT?! Party fouls are the freaking worst! Guy asks for help in a challenge area, rolls need on everything that drops. Doesn't share the quest so I can get credit. I take an hour of my time to help him out and get lieterally nothing for it. Fuck people.
But why, is co-op in an mmo so hard of a concept for people to agree on?
JJULLER simple. if you can't put a face to the person you're screwing over, they don't matter. only you do.
and here we are in 2022 and it's Pat's favorite game and he still acts like this with great games like Nioh 2.
It sounds like Pat wants to play Xenoblade Chronicles X. Massive world, engaging story, lots of quests, and all single player, aside from optional multiplayer with 0 bearing on the actual game.
Or Witcher 3. Or FFXII. Or...
hell even fallout fall under that
no, he wants an MMO where the main story is entirely single player content.
because I'm playing that game, and early level guildheist is fucking shit with the wait times because the long wait is fucking retarded.
*****
Easy solution to long que times is to play a Tank.
maxspecs but I play DPS.
like, I just dont feel confident enough to play tank, so I play a more supportive role. and one time, a tank quit before a dungeon started.
me and the group I was with waited for over half an hour and NOTHING.
The sad state of the game is that no one wants to play tank, and so this is what always happens. Try out Marauder. You're going to be terrible at holding aggro until level 30, until you get a proper "tank stance". But once you hit level 50, you'll get your "dps stance" and be doing more damage than the dragoon next to you, while being able to take hits far easier than him.
Going back to this clip today is wild
My favorite thing about Pat talking about playing with the FC and fans of SBFP and Woolie keeps asking about how "randoms are bad but these people are somehow better?" And not understanding when Pat says yes.
Pat never says it but let's be real. When the FC was started and people joined it. They probably worked really really hard to be good at the game so as to not piss off Pat.
Definitely, if they griefed he’d just kick them from the fc. It’s funny looking back on him talking about 14 back then
I see both sides on this, I like meeting other players in MMOS though. I tank mostly but I'm a patient person so I don't mind wipes and such.
I'm patient till the 15th whipe. after that I'm gonna either a. throw my monitor out the window or b. put every file of the game on a external state drive and throw that out the window
TheVaultNerd it's not wipes that are the problem. it's the people screeching at you to do your job while refusing to do theirs.
i like how 75% of this is just pat since none of them play ffxiv(except liam?)
"Other people are awesome."
Pat, you've sold me...Now I wanna play FFXIV. :3
I wonder if Woolie will have this same exact conversation with Pat when he finally retires from Fighting Games.
You can solo the earlier dungeons now, I believe.
Before, it was because you can hit level cap and steamroll through it.
NOWADAYS, you can solo it with a party of NPCs, though I wish you had the option of having like you, a single other person in your party, and 2 NPCs, but that's good too.
Thanks for this! Could you also make a compilation of the times Pat talks about his Witcher 3 experiences?
working on it
It is done
Ok now do Monster Hunter.
Pat just wants to play SWTOR
linkinpark227
Dude I dropped that shit hard please find these (Insert X Items) for me to progress. Do it come back tells me to talk to someone else 10 minutes away on the other side of the map. Love Star Wars but the MMO formula cause my fun to shrivel.
They do have full storymodes now, not just class specific ones. I mostly enjoyed it because it was a MMO with an actual focus on story, and some solid ones at that.
linkinpark227 Wish that was the case when I played it.
Except that ffxiv gameplay is a million times better.
5:24 what killed me for xenoblade
Maybe it's because I never had to play on American servers, but the only reason I ever disliked playing WoW with other people was when players were too focused on power-gaming and bruteforced past sections of dungeons while ignoring the atmosphere. Maybe it's because Europeans players are just better at MMOs? Looking at WoW, the top guilds are mostly European and Asian, with just one or two American guilds. I can't imagine that it would be very different for Final Fantasy XIV.
It's just that those players playing with you at the time probably already played those dungeons multiple times and they're there just for the rewards and stuff, it becomes a problem when someone in the party is new and wants to walk around and stuff, I was on both sides of that situation and that just made me give up as soon as I noticed that was a thing
Can I play this game without going online?
neverwinter covers the solo mmo genre
lobso123 dwarf fighter with a tower shield just wrecks
I do think MMO's should have an offline mode.
They want Two Worlds then
More like what Two Worlds promised and failed to deliver.
Pat complains that the guildhests made to teach new people have people who are learning and don't know how to play yet lol.
Also fucking Ultros? No wonder bad people. Jump to Faerie good sir!
FFXIV has that bad Quest design. You should never tie dungeons to the main storyline, and if you do, you should make it possible for people to solo them. Blade & Soul is fantastic for that, there you can either play most dungeons solo or in a party. Not because I don't want to team up with people. But because i don't want to wait 30-60 minutes in a queue to finish a mandatory quest. That is bullshit.
Look forward to Shadowbringers which fixes that with the Trust system.