Why Some Vegans Get It Wrong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2016
- John from www.okraw.com/ visits his 20 year vegan friend, Susan Lerner to learn about some of the ways she chooses to live her vegan lifestyle as a part of nature, and not in a sterile box.
First, you will discover how Susan rescues dogs, provides a habitat for fish, bees, insects, plants and other local wildlife. Will discover Johns opinions on living a vegan lifestyle and how he strives to live.
You will learn how she catches poisonous bufo marine toads that may kill her rescue dogs and what she does to them.
Next you will discover how Susan provides Honeybees a home and harvests and uses some of the bees honey.
John will then interview Susan about keeping bees as a Vegan and being a compassionate natural beekeeper.. You will learn more about bees and what is most important when beekeeping.
You will discover how its hipocritical to harvest the honey from bees but at the same time support and purchase conventional and organic foods that are using enslaved bees to polianate crops so 30% of fruits and vegetables to grow.
You will discover how honey bees can increase yield of fresh vegan fruits by 100% and a valuable part of the ecosystem.
Next you will discover the truth about honey on how most honey in the store are not ethically produced and only produced for profit. John and Susan will dispel some false (and truth) about how some bees are treated in the production of food via pollination and honey.
You will learn John's truth about the problem with honey, bees, farming, fruits and vegetables of today and why its it occurs.
You will learn about some of the bee products that John chooses to use and how he chooses them. You will learn why many honeys may not be as natural as you think.
You will also discover how some bees can lose their lives when harvesting honey. You will also discover how chemical and organic pesticides are used to kill pests on the food that is grown that vegans eat.
You will learn how John views honey and how it is a plant based food. He will share his opinions on how often he believes honey should be used. He will share his thoughts on how much he eats as well, and why he chooses to eat small quantities of honey.
John will share his views if he would rather eat honey or raw vegan agave.
Next you will discover how nature is not a “vegan” system and how Susan attempts to orchestrate the nature that surrounds her home. Next you will discover Susan's opions on living on a property and being vegan.
Next, John will share a story about Oakley, his 7 pound minature pincher Oakley and had him “wake” up about being vegan and how we should live in reality and strive to do the best we can.
Finally, you will discover Susan's final words of wisdom coming from a 20 year vegan on how to become a better vegan and be responsible in this web of life. You will discover the steps you can take to create a better ecosystem instead of destroy the earth's ecosystem.
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When you keep bees, you have a relationship. I keep my bees safe from predation, weather, etc while giving them a nice habitation. They can leave anytime they want, but when you have a relationship, there really isn't anything wrong with an exchange for a small amount of honey. One hand washes the other.
Biology can help clarify this. A relationship with the bees such as Susan's is called a mutualism.Both sides receive benefit that helps sustain their lives. However, taking the life of an animal even if you fed/raised/housed etc is called commensalism as it is ultimately not beneficial for the animal losing their life.They are very different relationships. If a butcher says this, then they clearly are unable to discern the difference or are trying to make themselves feel better.
Okay, I am not here to convince you otherwise. I grow my own food, have a permaculture food forest and keep bees as well. Clearly, we have a difference of perspective. Cheers.
+Spoo Rin I'm fairly certain they would rather be compassionately kept than extinct. There is currently an epidemic of colony collapse spreading across the country. Animal activists and bee activists are actually trying to get more people into compassionate beekeeping to save bees from extinction. Also, they really could leave the hive any time they want. Bees can and do reestablish hives.
You take something from them you don't need becase you don't respect them. You take advantage of their work when you don't need too, go eat a blueberry and leave the honey alone!
+Joe Mama yeah, insects don't need to be kept, they fucking take care of theirselves, stupid humans need to leave them alone.
so sorry about your kittens John, may they rest in peace. Life is full of suffering for many living things. Hope they have found peace.
"A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."Some people fail to recognize the "possible and practicable" part
+okraw John, I love your soul. I need to send you a youtube message about something. I'm going to try and send it. I just found out today how to do that. I'm one of your gyg'ers that came over here. I loved this video. I'm so sorry for what happened to your kittens. Oh geezz...my heart broke. It's okay. Your intentions were good. You meant NO harm. But, nature and life happen. We live in this duality and it sucks. I'm looking for an upgrade soon. LOL Anyway, I'm going to send you a message because I don't feel comfortable asking my "vegan" question publicly. You are the NICEST vegan I know of.
+Mike Stewart dogs can be vegan and thrive but cats cannot
+okraw I would say she rescued the bees like she did the Greyhounds. Do you agree?
+okraw Why John gets it wrong: It's not about treatment, it's about use. And use leads to abuse. It's practicable to exclude bee exploitation for honey, so honey is not vegan, just plant-based.
Love your videos John and I know she's your friend and she's a great woman but the fact remains that as long as people eat honey even in a positive way it will support the animal agriculture industry. If she was a true vegan she should raise only local bees because honeybees displace the native populations and again the honey is not made for humans it's made for baby bees she can justify her sweet tooth but it's sounds a lot like a person raising sheep and using the wool thus creating the habit which creates the slavery. Same as the chicken raiser who sells the eggs "but I treat my chickens good" typical excuses at least she says she's a beegan because she isn't vegan by definition.
It is so nice your friend had adopted the greyhounds. Racing dogs don't often recieve love, and those dogs clearly love to be loved. It's beautiful to see, and Murphy is such a cuddler. Awwwww.
I'm a beegan as well. Honey is a health food in small quantities. Does wonders for allergies, haven't had them in 10 years since adding raw organic honey to my daily smoothies. I love the term beegan as it explains what I do as well. Honey has been used as a medicine for years, and it holds up if produced naturally.
John,
THANK YOU for tackling this subject... I've been talking about this for years and received a lot of criticism for it... but since I have a farm I can relate to what Susan is saying about how Nature functions... Because I have seen the decline of the honeybees at my farm in the last ten years I have decided to also keep bees this year for the first time. And I feel grateful for Susan's beautiful example of how to do it compassionately and fairly.
Perhaps, you could further do a show about all the animal products that are in regular everyday products that we all use... like computers, film, shellac, plastics, cosmetics, one of the waxes that they coat fruit and vegetables with that is a crushed up insect, industrial products, and numerous other everyday items that we are mostly unaware of that contain animal products. IMHO The thing that needs to be done once we recognize these things and want to change them is to encourage research into finding non animal substitutes for these uses. Non animal substitutes that is, that are not lethal in themselves, so that we don't make a bad situation worse.
I believe that your overwhelming emotions here are an indication of growth, realization and acceptance on your part about, as you mentioned, things that are "not always black or white." The 'between' areas that are difficult to understand when we want to be kind and compassionate.
One time, years ago, I had an enlightening dream about the meaning of all existence. It was so vivid that it woke me up. And I said to myself, "Oh, now I understand, and it makes perfect sense and I was at peace. I will never forget this. Maybe I should write it down. No, I said to myself, I'll never forget this, so I didn't write it down."
Next morning, I remembered the dream and remembered that it made me feel good, but I didn't remember the message. So frustrating! One day I was telling this dream to a friend of mine, and in the middle of my description she finished the last part for me, because she had had the exact same dream and the same non recollection. Perhaps, our understanding will come when we have the ability to use more of our brains rather than the small portion we are currently using.
Thank you again John... always great stuff that you present... Peace out...
The surge of emotion that I saw and have seen in other videos does not seem "FAKED" I love how passionate you John...the fact that you were able to reel it back in so quickly is clear that your emotions aren't the issue ...the ISSUE is the issue....~!!! Thanks as always for your work and for sharing what you share....
The most passion I have seen in a video. Strong emotions. If everyone cared as much as John imagine how beautiful the world would be.
Being vegan for a 1,5 year and proudly eating raw organic local sustainable honey.Thank you for amazing video! God bless!
OMG Its just honey with a fucking new label on it. God you vegan idiots would eat anything that says organic or raw on it. There's no such thing as raw honey. All honey is made the same way.- Former Beekeeper
Raw honey means that the honey have not been treated in any way. It has not been filtered, heated up or been mixed with other ingredients.
That's right. And that is only difference between store bought junk labeled in any way someone wants and raw, 100% pure honey bought from trusted source - directly from beekeeper as John (and I ) does.
I eat raw local organic honey as well. It's the only "non-vegan" thing I do, if you could call it that. I live in SC and there is no shortage of local raw organic honey. I put it in my smoothie every day. Helps with allergies immensely and is a truly healing food. I hate how honey is demonized when it is INDUSTRIAL honey that is bad, not this kind of honey.
In Australia we call those toads "Cane toads" because the cane fields were being attacked badly by beetles and the CSIRO decided to bring a few in to test if they would attack the beetles. They didn't help with the beetles, all they've done is damage the invironment by destroying native species and are spreading. They've spread over half of Australia.
You are so passionate, John! Thank you for all that you do.
it practictable to exclude honey though... so honey is not vegan, it's maybe Plant based... Susan Lerner is a beegan... that's all
and she does no harm :)
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Thanks for the information. Is it possible to harvest bee pollen granuals from the hive that does not interrupt the bees?
Hello! great video, it's answered so many questions I felt I couldn't get clearly anywhere else. I was wondering though, as the queen bee in this video isn't manipulated and they naturally swarm and grown new queens, does this mean a slower process to obtain 'honey' and a chance that they may swarm elsewhere if not 'controlled'? i'm only unsure about this because when I read other apiary 'how to's' they always introduce new bee's after 1 year because she might fail in production, so in this case is it viable to obtain honey only for yourself, but it wouldn't work as a small business? I just wonder if small businesses are able to operate this way where there's minimal manipulation and the queens are not taken away, killed and replaced, i'd like to support local honey but I don't know if they would do this method if it's cheaper, faster and easier to replace the queen, thanks!
I've never liked the taste of store bought honey. I only buy a small amount of raw honey from my local farmers. Because they need bees to help grow food NATURALLY! I only use it when I feel sick. Take care, and thank you for this very informative video.
Beautiful, thank you. You have touched my heart and peaked my interest in learning about how I can do more.
Awesome video! Love honey, bee propolis and bee pollen. In my country these are used for cold and flu like symptoms all the time.
OMG I KNEW I LOVED YOU!! I've been watching Growing Your Greens for a while and I kept thinking, "This guy is vegan."
You are freakin awesome.
~Sarah
Thank you Susan, thank you okraw. A couple of questions. I feel like I do live in shoebox with everything dead and dying around me as Susan mentioned in this video--in a foreign country where meat is being popularized by yoga teachers! I want to go home. In the meantime, when a cockroach occasionally comes in, and I can't cajole it out, it's so disruptive to my life (and I sleep on the floor). They're huge, hide well, run, jump, and fly a little. So I do what I can to kill them. How do you feel about killing cockroaches? Also, with the frogs, what happens to them after they come out of the freezer? I've always wondered if some kind of antivenom couldn't be made for "earthlings." If other animals were immune to their venom, they'd become a more natural part of the habitat, wouldn't they? I don't know how these things work. 'We' don't have them here. Sorry to hear they're in Florida. Thanks again!
Loved this video John! Your passion is very moving and I love your vision! I visualize someday hospitals growing beautiful gardens with healing herbs and fruits and vegetables. Sending so much love your way!
Your passion is so moving. I felt every bit of it. Thank you for doing what you do.
Great video Jk love the passion. I've been thinking of getting bees for my self and using a Flow Hive for the top half. Any one have pro's and con's on the Flow Hive.
I think overall this is really helpful, even ideal.. and I'm 100% in agreement with you about balance and avoiding the extremist attitude, but i also think there may be some naturalistic fallacies in your thinking as well. All and all, i think you're doing a great job, John. You're an honest and caring soul trying to make the world a better place and we need more people like you. :)
Fantastic video & really loved Susan and her great message, I learned so much! I would consume local honey but it makes my allergies worse for some reason. I'm truly sorry about the kittens John.
I so appreciate this episode! Susan looks and sounds much like my mom. My mom taught me many of the same things. We grew up gardening in Tucson, where she still has many fruit trees and native plants.
This episode answered all my unanswered questions about honey. I can not thank you enough! I'd love to know what you and Susan think of the Flow Hive system.
I have a month of raw vegan under my belt, and my family just made the decision that this is not a trial anymore. We want to be vegan forever. I am so happy! It's what I've wanted since I was old enough to express my love for animals. I am only sad that it took this long for me to get the knowledge that I needed. However, I was not idol during those years. From my parents getting annoyed with the multiple lizards and birds I rescued to years in the veterinary field, I do what I can. So I really identify with your story about the kittens. It reminded me of a time I fostered 13 kittens that were all sick with panleukomenia. It was one of the darkest times in my life. I was helpless to save most of them. But a few I did save and gave them loving families. Although I am happy about that, the nightmare of that week and how physically and emotionally draining it was makes me never want to volunteer for something like that again. It is hard enough to see any animal die. But babies that should be full of life and promise that leave before being about to play and grow through childhood is the worse ever!
Animals eat each other but we can't ear them? Honey is a great antibiotic. It makes sense to use it.
What did she do with the toxic frog?
She killed it by freezing it.
ive been up planted black, red and white currants in my own homemade from kitchen scraps compost and harvested some worms for my new hungry bin keep up the good work loveulodes x
I really respect you, John. This episode made it real for me.
I adore this video. I cried with you. This was very emotional for me. I feel like an alien on this planet. I have to spend time with more like minded ppl. I'm always the 'educator' for those that come to me for my insight (yes, I'm still a student too). I'm tired and heart broken sometimes. That isn't a good thing. Can't be good to feel that way, bad for one's health in all ways. I always say, "when the student is ready, the teacher appears". I guess we can't feed a closed mouth. The light bulbs goes on at different times of our lives. The fools journey, so to speak. I feel I've seen the world/people changing more and more over the last several years.
Just about every time John cries I follow suit lol awesome vid even awesomer ppl!
Thank you Susan and John for such an informative and powerful video!
I hope to meet Susan soon as I live not too far from her and I hope to be able to raise bees one day and just to give them a safe place to thrive. Now I know why my orange trees grow a few oranges a year, NO BEES!!! DANG IT!! I have come to the conclusion that no one is a vegan if we must live in an environment that upsets the natural habitat for animals. Like the last forest in our area on Donald Ross Rd, the Briger Forest.These businesses, condos and homes are taking homes from the animals who live there, or use to. I have seen so many images of foxes and other animals racing across the 4 or 5 lanes to escape the bulldozers. scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12347971_790780301068416_5265240576573656329_n.jpg?oh=18084780d57eb8ca19cbea37201db2c3&oe=572EE285
I commend all the great souls petitioning to save the panthers, foxes, turtles, birds, tortoises and other animals now trying to escape to other environments near by, are getting slaughtered on Donald Ross and the Interstate that blocks their path to the closest wild areas. So, if you wear clothes, shop in stores that used to be a forest, live in a house that took a space for natural habitat, or anyplace else that is not on the moon, you are not a vegan. I think we need a new term and so we can all get on the same page. No more fighting, name calling, we're all for saving life.
How about raising the honeybees to help the population, but leave their honey alone!
Beekeepers always leave bees honey to eat, or the colony would die in the winter. In addition, they help the bees by providing places for them to live, in addition to other assistance with diseases, etc. They also protect them from wild predators who would eat all the honey and destroy the bees' home. It's a symbiotic relationship. It's only fair for the bees to provide something in return for the assistance.
@@robinlillian9471 many take all the honey and replace it with syrup or sugar water which is completely unnatural for them to eat and I don't for one second believe that it's good for them it may as well be killing them
Did you not even listen to the video?
dude I enjoy watching your vids. like you, I grow my own veggies and fruit. my growing season is short but productive. keep up the good work.
Honey is medicine depending on the flowers the bees process. Not ment for healthy people every day.
You are amazing John !!! keep up the good work and spread the message. I wish there was more people like you in this world.
I really appreciate seeing someone understand that their views Although maybe Closer to right may not be perfect?
Did you know that there are a lot of regenerative ranchers like myself who have a very diverse food system. That is not only providing homes for all of the farm animals that we raise and eat But also providing lots of habitat for lots and lots of wildlife. You cannot have a complete ecosystem without plants and animals Having a symbiotic relationship. There is a wonderful term called Agra forestry I challenge anyone to research and learn more about this topic. I'm not against anyone's views and I do not think That I have the right to change anyone's mind. But I would just like to say that not everyone who eats meat or raises meat is the same as what we are used to seeing with traditional agriculture.
And I would also like to leave you with a question
What would happen To all of the animals If everyone in the world stopped eating meat today?
John, this is one of my favourite videos you have done!
Hey John, wondering what you think about BPA FREE MAYBE NOT SO GOOD FOR US STILL (such as "bpa free" blenders like vitamin and blendtec), I just learned on democracy now how many of studies found it NOT good for us but was suppressed and internal memos like "oh shit" moment" I know we all do best we can. Another option is glass,but not high power.
www.democracynow.org/2014/3/4/are_any_plastics_safe_industry_tries
thank you for sharing this knowledge.
There was a lot I didn't know about.
Wow! Thank you John for sharing your wonderful and inspiring message! I'm realy proud of seeing you so authentic with your feeling... eveything you say is so true... your sincerity and your sensibility touch me in the raw! -_^
I agree, small scale responsible apiculture isn't something negative. It's really a synergistic relationship if you do it right
I don't own bees, I own bee hives and I rent them to bee families for a few quarts of honey a year...I am not a slum lord, I keep the hive apartments clean and vermin free. I have a farm where the bees work, they are paid with pollen and nectar, I grow things I can't eat just so the bees will have a good variety to choose from. Bees are not slaves, they can leave any time they want and sometimes they do, they swarm and follow a new queen and I am happy for them if that is what they want but most of the time they are happy with the arrangement and stay.
Thank you so much for all your wonderful videos. I always learn something new from your videos.
John Thank you so much for sharing your info with the rest of the world. This video is excellent and very heart felt. Blessings Love and light.
What happened to the toad?
Some people watching might be against the honey or toad killing, however this is a great example of working with nature not against it. The toads are not indiginous to where she resides so they have little or no natural preditors so she is doing the eco system a favour. She is also working with the bees in a friendly manor and this type of honey production should be supported otherwise the alternative is people wont give up honey and will buy from cruel profit hungry industries.
Awsome video as always keep up the good work and spreading the good words, thankyou!
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for sharing such personal information too.
Thank you!!! You and Susan just made the most intelligent and intensely compassionate vegan vid of all time! I love your mixture of real emotion and objective sustainability!!❤️❤️ Hear Hear!!
I have never seen John get emotional about anything.
Thank-you, John, and Susan. I learned a LOT.
John, you must be Buddhist. You love all life and advocate to all to do no harm. You're a beautiful soul. Thank you for all you do for the global community. You are helping to save lives and creating peace on our planet.
What passion! Thank you for sharing.
glad he did this video. We need more ethical beekeepers, particularly vegan beekeepers who actually care about the bees, rather than use them for commercial exploitation
An excellent video! Thank you both for sharing!
Woah, I love the emotions that come through this video. I honestly don't like honey that much, I buy it from this organic company that lives near me and the only reason I use it is in my tea. It's local and suppose to help allergies. I'm 100% vegan. I plan to grow most of my food once I buy my own land.
What happened to the frog? I was waiting for that moment. I think it was fed to the fish as the circle of life.
+Scott York It went into hibernation in her freezer and never came back. Don't know what happens after.
+Bobfishfuwen Thanks... I hate Cliff Hangers
Thanks for the nice scientific explanation, but I know. What I was referring to as "next" was how they disposed of the body. ;)
My cat killed baby rabbit in our backyard and I felt the same way and I witnessed the whole thing,it happened so fast ,I couldn't interfere,it was awful!
You raise some really good points, thank you for the video.
The problem vegans have with honey is primarily regarding most store-bought honey which is created on a large scale, like factory farming, but there are also issues with even the most ethical of homestead beekeepers. Firstly, there are a lot of really fucked up things industrial beekeeping facilities will do to maximize their yield. They will often cut off the wings of the queen bee so she can’t escape, and then when the queen is transported by some of her working bees to a new colony those working bees are killed by the colony. Also the farmers often won’t leave any honey for the bees and will actually give them a cheap sugar substitute which is not as fortifying to them. These are the actions that make the industry so exploitative, and therefore against vegan ethics. I personally, as a vegan of over 3 years with a lot of interest in conservation, do see why some people will keep their own colony of bees on their personal property to help with pollination and the dwindling native populations, but i have yet to find a way that bees can be kept without having to interfere with them. If you just leave the hive to do its thing it will fill up with honey and the colony will either leave permanently or they will start filling the comb used for raising young bees and there won’t be any babies born, eventually leading to the colony collapsing. So the only option then is to take some honey out to make room, but during this process some bees are always killed. So that’s why i really don’t know how i feel about it all, there are both pros and cons. I don’t feel there is a truly ethical way to keep honeybees due to these reasons. Instead, believe people should be working to help introduce bees species that pollinate but do not produce honey. There are many thousands of species. That means you won’t need to interfere with their hive(s) because they don’t live in hives or produce honey, and you’ll still have the benefits of increased pollination.
This was amazing! I learned so much! Thank you!
anti-exploitation is not dogma, saying roadkill is not vegan is dogma. sometimes it is right wrong, this isn't about raw or not, this is about exploitation, it's always wrong. if you want to help bees fine, but leave the damn honey alone! Yeah, she's not vegan, she takes honey from the bees for no damn good reason!
You have such a sweet soul and you're always an inspiration.
That is such a great and much needed video!
I love you John! You are so real and amazing. Thanks for all the very helpful vids.
Thank you for this!!! I'm vegan and argue with vegans that hold these bee dogmas all the time. So nice to see a keeper actually make a video to inform vegans. i just wish they would have mentioned the mites that have killed most of the wild bee population thus without current human intervention bees would be extinct
I'm envious of her yard. I'd love to own a place like that one day
Great video. Cute pups 😄🌸👍
Some people will bend definitions to meet their own needs whether dietary or emotionally dependent on animals/"pets". The 'least amount of harm' is just to leave animals alone to live their natural lives period!
Just got in a huge Facebook discussion about honey and that I eat it for allergies. The conversation was over 45 pages long if it were an essay, single-spaced, 12-point font. It's still going now. I eat less than a teaspoon daily for allergy maintenance. It is local, raw, organic honey from a great beekeeper who doesn't do any of the things that evil factory-farmed beekeepers do. People need to stop condemning everything that isn't explicitly vegan. I do everything else vegan, except for the amazing honey I consume. So sick of arguing with militant vegans about how I'm stealing from bees when it is so far from the truth.
Right on John. Agree.
John, what dogma about slavery do you feel is B.S? What part of slavery is the good of the good/bad part?
Victoria Q I think he was referring to the idea that bees are considered slaves. I am quite certain he does not think any objections to human slavery are B.S.
I want to see more from Susan.
I really enjoyed this video!
Stored properly honey 🍯 does not go bad!!
Wow...she thought he was joking when he was crying. She was smiling.. like is he for real? Get rid of that "killer dog Oakley....lol"
BTW.....I LOVE SUSAN~!!! :^) She GETS IT SO WELL~!!!!
Just let the hate and the tears out -- at least for once :D
Let the Bees keep their Honey.
with this topic of ripping the wings off of the bees queen. I've noticed a trend where where people will see one bad thing and that 1 bad thing will be publicized across millions of people people and they think because that 1 bad thing is known across the world across the world that that happens across the worldWhen in reality it was one bad thing that happened and now the whole world knows about itThe sad truth is most of the time people don't talk about the good stuff that happens. Good things is not good news Although it should be!
So why not catch and release?
Aside from the honey issue, I love the idea of creating habitats for the plants and animals! Thank you for sharing. And thank you for being real in all ways❤️
you so sweet john..... :-)
PS....Astrologically....it could be possible that your emotions just may have been magnified immensely as were MANY people's....For me a Pisces....Mars In Scorpio caused the same powerful surge for me....could be a factor on the intensity..~
great video! thanks for all the time you spend in teaching us how to love and take care of nature, sadly alot of people is ruining our planet.
sorry about your kittens :(
WOW. Is't how this all started? by keeping honey bees in our back yards and "compassionately" raising them. Then people saw that they could make a profit from their honey and started exploiting them to the max. Honey is not vegan peeps.
Well said John!
what do you think about feeding dogs vegan food….do they need meat? kinda confused on this one, dont want to harm my dog. Great open minded video John appreciate a realistic look at life here on earth.
People who live in apartments can't have gardens. 1 in 5 people live in apartments.
Don't honey producers breed their own bees and not "hunt" wildlife bees?
This was such a great educational video! I really enjoyed the raw emotions. I feel the same way, eating vegan alone is not enough. I'm really interested in learning about bee keeping and gardening. I want to build my own self sustainable home with a natural environment.
Are you or Susan familiar with the flow hive? I'd love to know what she thinks about it!
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Very informative, video. 👍🏽
Amazing video, I love her
Awesome video:) You rock!
Great video my brother
Great video John!
great video john
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I'm glad she doesn't call herself vegan, I respect her more than the person who made teh video.