Why don't vegans eat honey?
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I thought I knew a lot about bees.....thank you for the further education! We have hayfields and are always watching for precious bees but so few are seen now. We nurture milkweed patches and I’ve sown more clover in our fields......yes, we’re vegan! Thank you again for this piece on bees!
@David McCarthy whoa chill out man. Not cool.
@@lelrond Agreed.
@David McCarthy What you meant was: Person with morals and a good understanding of reality tells idiot to chill out.
bruv why do we do all this just to get honey. just use maple syrup
Maple syrup doesn't taste good.
Agave is even better
@@black_caps maple syrup tastes great, but you're probbaly not from Canada so you never had pure maple syrup.
Maple syrup is my fav
@@black_caps Actually wrong.
When she calls you honey instead of Agave.
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LMAOOOOOO good one
agave is terrible. maple syrup all day
TaylorAmelia all sweeteners that aren’t products of animal suffering are good in my book! Lol
Brendan Morin that’s because you are devoid of compassion or empathy you psychopath
Me before this video: "How can honey be bad? I don't understand." 6.20mins later: "Yeah fair enough."
vegans cant use papers as well, Am I right?
@Ian Lev Nah, you're just selfish. I don't really see the ethical concerns considering that we still exterminate ants and kill flies and they have comparable nervous systems, but the environmental impacts are degrading many wildlife habitats, and you should be aware of that whenever you make the active choice to buy honey.
Ian Lev didn’t you watch the video? I don’t care about the lives of bugs, but I do care about the environment
Same
@Ian LevWe all came here thinking just like you and we all changed our minds on the subject. You got to at least watch the video and give it a chance. When you just say things like "Vegans are mental, they know virtually nothing..." no adult will give a shit about it if you don't make your case with good arguments. If you watched the video and still think it's full of shit, please tell us why. We're all just like you, we just need an argument that makes sense. If you have these good arguments, please share. Or you can always keep beeing a baby and just cry about you needing your honey. Pussy move, but you choose how to live your life.
I had no idea about this.. I grew up having home made honey and saw how my granddad would care for his bees (he only had one box, not to sell, just for personal use) and I thought that was how everyone would care for the bees because he cared a lot about their well being.. thank you for this explanation, now I can see how bad honey can be and understand things that never crossed my mind! I mean, bee insemination?! People are insane!
You could say he cared about their wellbee-ing...
Sorry I had to 😅
@@KalebPeters99 Haha. I saw that missed opportunity too.
@@KalebPeters99 bruh
The same goes with vegan products. Full toxic methods of producing.
Yeah, I guess different beekeepers treat bees differently. But what matters in a bigger picture often is the broad tendency.
I thought I knew a lot about bees, but this video expanded on aspects I didn't know. Thank you.
same here
Yeah same here. I knew practically nothing about the industry. I'm glad I didn't pick a package of muesli from the store, even when I really wanted some but everything had honey in them :(
I personally believe that Edward is sensationalizing the plight of the bumblebee for personal gain;
but I'm not going to try to make you eat honey.
@@wisemage0 How does he gain from it?
@@wisemage0 someone that speaks for the animals is not selfish.The people that exploit animals for their personal gains then?
I’ve been vegan for a month or so now and haven’t eaten honey in ages anyway but this really cleared up in my head why we don’t eat honey. I wish people would just be more open to learning about how their choices affect the world around them rather than just dismissing it and having negative connotations with the word vegan. So glad I made the change and I don’t think I’ll ever go back
You should read how bees get transported to almond farms. Thousands of bees die from doing this. Yes they get bread for honey but they are also getting bread because of the demand for almonds. Also look up the cashew industry you will be shocked!! Slave labour. I am mostly vegan but i do consume honey as maple syrup just isn't in my budget an honey is a lot cheeper and i try an not consume cashews because of the working conditions.
@@natashacollin8180 You want me to stop eating nuts now, too?
@@wisemage0 it is always important to just give your best. As most know, living 100% vegan is impossible and we can start by changing our behaviour with the biggest effect and continue deeper, getting closer to a more ethical lifestyle. Going vegan is fantastic for ethics, but it is not all. Yes, with a modern vegan diet (which for most people that includes almonds generally from California) you make a great positive step. Would it be better, from a vegan standpoint, to not support farms that rely on shipping bees across the counties every year: Yes. Should you eat yourself up for eating these nuts: No.
Give your best, keep adding positive changes and keep moving forward in a speed that is sustainable for you :)
Next time that I'll see a shooting star, this is what I will wish for too. :)
There is nothing wrong about eating honey you ignorant girl... nor there is nothing wrong eating animal products. Humans are omnivores but it doesn't mean you have to switch from one extreme to another just because some assholes kill bees.
This stuff should be taught in schools but sadly are not
Why should schools make everyone vegan
@@itsmefinnstar160 It’s not to make everyone go vegan 🌱 just to educate people
@@jimmywilliams4257 about what?
@@itsmefinnstar160 about where their food comes from
@@kokonattsu2687 everyone knows where food comes from..
i’m a vegan and before this video i would consume honey, and honestly i’m ashamed for not educating myself.
This video is not information. It is all lies!
Don't be ashamed its food
@@Molluskenkoenig evidence?
@@theirlivesnotours I am a beekeeper and I know that this is not how bees are handled. For example it makes nö sense to kill a hive before winter. The food costs arround 20€ and a New colony costs 10 times that ammount. That is just one example of all the BS in this video. If you want proof, go and visit a beekeeper.
@@tobytheimposter8 year old girl's bre@st milk is food too❤
I’m Vegan and don’t eat honey but never really knew why, thank you for sharing this
Same!!!!
And you believe his false information. Go talk to a beekeeper, because this video is 90% BS.
@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 never???? A beekeeper says otherwise??
@@weirjwerijrweurhuewhr588 which part specifically is false?
@@davidgeraghty9765 lol no answer to that ://
Imagine diligently working a job, only to have people take a portion of your hard earned money and replace it with monopoly bills...
On the ecology side of it, experts say something along the lines of producing honey to "save the bees" is like farming chickens to save wild birds. Great video!
True
@@ryuji_chua so why do vegans drink almond milk, when tens of billions of bees are exploited to produce the almonds.
top ten problems with capitalism
@@andrewjohnson1467 Source?
Thank you for this. My sister was asking me about this very question and since I am new to veganism, I didn't know all the issues in the honey industry. This answers a lot of questions we both had.
He is a liar
thanks for this video. im a vegan and for a while i didnt eat honey at fist, but then thoughtt that honey wasnt unethical or unsustainable. after doing more research and also seeing this video, i wont be buying honey in the future. i do still have a jumbo jar of it, but im not going to throw it out or be hard on myself, ill use it. the goal is to keep growing as a person and we're imperfect, its okay to keep learning.
Agreed, throwing away the honey wouldn‘t help the bees.
Last year I made my own „honey“: I cooked lion's-tooth flowers with sugar until it reached a honey-like texture. Turned out more liquid than intended, but works perfectly fine. Alternatively there are things like maple sirup, agave nectar and vegan honey one can buy.
@@Alina_Schmidt
The healthiest sweeteners are fruits like raisins, dates, bananas, mangoes and jackfruit
Lol you're missing out killer bee honey is amazing.
I’m vegan and I still eat honey every now and then. But that will stop right now! I didn’t know the truth about the way the bees are treated and it is awful.
How many dead Insects are the in a loaf of bread?
@@kookrider3571 The difference is, the dead insects aren't supposed to be in the bread. It's not purposeful.
Its not all over the world like in this video.
You were not vegan, now you are, congrats!
thank you! the bees will thank you too 🌼🐝
You convinced me. I'm not eating honey anymore
I didn’t even eat honey before watching this lol I never liked the taste of it
@@Saturn-p8z Lmao fr, it has a strong and not very pleasant taste. It's kind of spicy like cinnamon
Super informative as always, thank you!
I’m just becoming a vegan and didn’t know about the bee cruelty. I have a bee and butterfly garden and we have lots of bees in the summer in the garden. We planted plants and flowers that we researched they would like. We get lots of butterflies too. We rescue some bees who are sleepy or drunk by placing them in the undergrowth so they’re safe until they wake up. It’s disgusting how non humans are treated. Since I changed to vegan my asthma has all but gone and I’ve lost weight. My rashes have gone I don’t cry or feel sad as much and I feel more awake.
Also, on the bee intelligence thing - having taken linguistics, while some bees can communicate pollen sources in a dance akin to language, they have no word of "up" and never devised one. In an experiment, a nectar source was placed high up on a pole - workers relayed the location of the pole to the hive but when more workers were sent there, they just swarmed around the pole.
That is actually really interesting!
Couldn't that just be that hive or regional dialect. If it is akin to language they should have different dances for different regions. Maybe even a form of accent.
@@wownoyoudont861 There are different dances/movements for different bee species, so technically that is a thing.
However, the broader issue is that despite being able to communicate displacement (information that is not in immediate proximity and in the immediate present time), their "language" is not open-ended enough to communicate novel details like a unique altitude.
I am a new "bee" in veganism haha :) and there is a lot to learn . I am binge watching your videos. Just today I was wondering if honey is vegan ,and here is the answer! Thank you so much ,you inspired me to go vegan and help the planet ,our animal friends and also my own health . I am really thankfull ♡
Good for you !! This may also be helpful:) bee well th-cam.com/video/QNOm4QOfZck/w-d-xo.html
@@TheGreenBean You can bee sure that I am watching your cooking video ,it is quite helpfull :) Thanks nice human
welcome aboard! :) hope you'll enjoy your journey.
Ed's videos are also the reason I found veganism. I became vegan just last month.
@lizzie z I will check it out ,thank you ☺🌿
not a single beekeeper was able to debunk this video in 2 years. just let that sink in.
Thank you for this video, as a backyard beekeeper I think there is a big difference between the commercial practices and the "amateurs" as in any agricultural industry.
Bees are absolutely amazing animals and fascinating. Their complex social structure and communication is mind blowing.
I do not clip queen wings and my bees can swarm away whenever they feel like (and they will fly away if not content!). It is my goal to keep them happy and healthy so they do not leave and will focus on collecting honey to the point that they make more than they need (as they do since they are always working).
Farmers in The Netherlands plant narrow strips of wildflowers between mono-crops, I think this helps all pollinators and supports healthy ecosystems, a rising tide lifts all ships.
Thanks for being vegan!
I’m sure you care about your bees but where do you buy your queen from to start the hive?
there’s sugar, maple syrup, agave, and even vegan honey. what is the point in all this?!
Their point is to scare you to their way of yhinking
Alexander no, honey and sugar are almost identical. The difference is refined glucose has only one type of sugar whereas honey and maple syrup have many. Plus the difference is miniscule and you get other sugars from fruit
Ummm the health benefits of honey?? The health benefits come from enzymes bees put into the honey. Everything else is just pure sugar
@@Alexander03312 WRONG! There are worse sugars than table sugar. Pure fructose, is worse than glucose and fructose in table sugar, as you body has to process fructose into glucose. Fructose is well studied to be more damaging to the body than glucose.
sugar production is probably 10x worse for the environment what honey is. The reason you use different sweeteners is because of flavors. Once you reach wide scale production of a crop its bound to be bad for the environment mono cultures are not good for diversity.
3:43 These are not bees, they are flower flies. Flower flies also known as hover flies are also important pollinators.
humans are apex predators vegans kill billions of animals with crop farming earthling ed eats meat off camera and gets paid from world economic forum to spread disinfo propaganda humans are CARNIVORE by physiology
Thought the heads looked different...
Interesting
Excellent report, thank you! I will share this important information with my friends and family.
Those aren't bees at 3:41. They are hoverflies
I just found out that you came to visit my school last year and I can't believe I missed the opportunity to meet you! You helped completely change how I want to diet when I live on my own. Keep doing what you're doing!🌟
Veganism isn't a diet is a ethical position towards other sentient beings
I wish he came to my school smh
why wait till you live alone? the time is now !
Wapiti
I speculate that it is because they live with their parents/family and cannot afford to buy their own food and those who buy the food are not vegan and therefore will not buy them vegan food.. again, I'm speculating but there are many who are at the mercy of eating what is made available to them if they are unable to support themselves..
@@breathemetal76 True. Sadly many who have empathy for other creatures often forget to empathize with humans. Idk how many times I've seen comments made by other vegans putting down kids...children...for not being able to buy their own food. It's those vegans that give the rest of us a bad name.
*not talking about Wapiti, how can I when Idk if they take what you said into consideration. I know I've made that comment " why wait, do it now," without knowledge of how the commenter lives.
I gave up honey once I became vegan simply cause I thought "honey is for bees" similar to "milk is for baby cows" but I had no idea what happened in the honey bee industry. I imagined a peaceful meadow and a thriving echo system much like they would want me to believe. Good video!
Exactly the same as you. I knew about the replacement of honey with the fake sweetner stuff but never to this extent. It's so upsetting.
Same here. I had suspicions though, now my suspicions have been proven right!
i always thought honey was gross so it was no loss for me tbh
Yeah, I typically just avoided honey because I knew _other_ vegans did the same and figured they had done more research on the topic. It just wasn't something worth the hassle. But I'm so glad he made this video because what that _did_ do was lead to some awkward conversations with non-vegans asking me why I don't eat honey, and I didn't have any good answers.
@Cryptos Cryptos they are lying.. about what?
What an amazing video! Thank you for making it.
As a vegan who did eat honey, I am done with that! I had no idea what horrible things were done to bee's, thank you so much for the information
I didn't know they killed off the whole hive during the winter 🥺
me neither, it's such a heartbreaking thing... like pretty much anything else we do to animals :( every time I think I've seen it all, here comes something else...
Me neither and im a beekeeper and vegan myself. I dont steel the honey ofcourse
@@BertRoer what kind of bees you keep?
@@papaidoceuteamamuito5975 Most be for polonizing purposes
I'm highly skeptical that freezing the entire hive is common practice.
Wow I was literally thinking yesterday "has Earthling Ed ever made a video on honey?? I hope he does" that's crazy
@Cryptos Cryptos enlighten us then ;)
@Cryptos Cryptos well I won't take advice from someone who called me an idiot, I didn't even say anything controversial or my opinion
@@taym1698 nothing in the video is true. Why not look up some bee channels and see what really happens? You obviously have you tube.
@@inharmonywithearth9982 yea I know there is lots of great beekeepers out there who take good care of their bees, keep doing what you do. I've wanted to beekeep myself and that's why I wanted more facts and opinions on it
Tay M this video is cherry picked propaganda. Start beekeeping for yourself before you form opinions based on some douchebag’s click bait video.
Thank you for posting this. I am on a plant based diet except for honey, and have looked for a very long time for detailed arguments against honey production and have never found anything like this through quick googles. Super helpful, I will be rethinking honey consumption going forward. :)
Wow that's a good one!! Thank you!
Nice one, you should do why vegans are against selling sheep fur
From Ed in 2016: th-cam.com/video/dUnTyjBuxkk/w-d-xo.html
Wool, not fur. Fur suggests skin is removed
@The Ecocentrist Misanthropic Vegan Thanks
@@bradbeattie Thanks
selling? and using
We can save the bees without eating honey! Saving a species doesn't have to be beneficial to us!
I wonder how many hive trees you have made or medows that you have cleared, and if you have, how long can you keep it up...
it does in this capitalist hellscape.
By taking honey from them WE ARE of benefit to them, you gullible propaganda believing Vegan. If we didn't take it, they would fill the combs with honey(because they are honey making machines and don't stop), leaving no room for new brood. So it's a win win, dummy. We get tasty honey and they get to breed. Bee Farmers/Keepers are what literally saved Bees from decline, go educate yourself, fool. Vorroa mites are what caused Bee deaths and Bee Keepers/Farmer can treat that and kill them, again, SAVING the Bees. Left to their own devices, Bees get DECIMATED by Varroa mites, entire colonies die. By heating a harmless chemical to the Bees into the hives, they can kill hundreds and more Varroa mites, while not harming the Bees. Can nature do that? NO!
Symbiosis
@@simmertoddler1632 I love that word!
Really great! Sharing video now.
Huge and complex topic, well explained, good video
This needs to be spoken about more, thank you Ed for spreading such an important message. Save the bees 🐝
This video is propaganda. Not to mention you should probably do a little digging on the almond industry before your holier than thou vegan attitude fully kicks in. You want to be part of the solution? Boycott almonds and other monoculture that NEED industrial beekeeping to survive. My advice? Start breaking for yourself and learn the truth by actually DOING SOMETHING.
This video is pure propaganda. If you're interested in actually learning more, there are literally millions of hours of beekeeping videos on TH-cam. Please don't make assumptions based on 6 and a half minutes of biased information.
Me when Ed says pessimism is a sign of intelligence:
🤭 "Oh, you."
Yeah, intelect is literally the ability of 'reading the inside' 😎 inte(rior) lect(ure)
This was extremely helpful!!! Although I stopped eating honey when I turned vegan I was never deeply convinced of why I shouldn't and now I am! so grateful for this video
Don't listen to this video look up actual bee keeper videos none of these practices are widely used the vast majority of honey is vegan friendly and ethically done, been keepers so everything they can to keep their hives health and long living
Thanks Ed. I needed to know this
Thanks Ed, I've been vegan for 5 years and thought the only reason for not eating honey was the use of sugar syrup.
Hi Ed - Great video as always but would you be able to add the links for any references, stats and studies to the description section of the video? I always think it's important that everything should be cited.
Mostly is hear say. I'm a beekeeper and I've never had to use insemination and I've had the same beehives for about 3 years now. YES there are extreme capitalist beekeepers but you will rarelly find them selling local.
@@felathar1985 thank you
@@felathar1985 Most people do not buy local honey. Most people buy it from a grocery store and have no idea where it comes from, or buy it already in products. This type of honey is almost exclusively going to be from large scale producers who use every corner-cutting technique they can.
Furthermore, your comment only addresses the bee abuse aspect of the video. All the other points about genetic bottle-necking, wild bee population destruction and wildflower decline are still relevant even to a small scale beekeeper like yourself.
@@velar123 wrong. it depends on the country. capitalist countries work like that, but in our country honey are rarely available in our groceries. our honey still comes from local farmers.
@@velar123 many of the small scale bee keepers actually keep local bee species in order to preserve them and helping them survive, actively fighting genetic bottlenecking.
And I also know plenty of people that have wildflowers growing in their garden, often leaving parts basically unkept so the flowers can grow unobstructed. From what I've seen the people that keep bees keep them to help not only the bees but also try to preserve as much wildlife as possible in general, which includes plants as well
You are so awesome Ed. Thank you so much for this video
I appreciate what you are doing, and your calm approach.
I try to participate in rising an awareness as much as I can.
Save the bees by letting animals be.
and by protecting their natural habitat
This video is pure propaganda. If you're interested in actually learning more, there are literally millions of hours of beekeeping videos on TH-cam. Please don't make assumptions based on 6 and a half minutes of biased information.
This is wildly generalised ed. A friend of mine has a couple of hives. Of which he takes the upmost care. No bees a culled, no bees are harmed during honey harvest. His hives are caught not bought, It really does depend who you get your honey from. It's one of the few animal products that I believe if you get it from the right person you aren't harming the bees.
It´s their work, their honey, having the power to steal from them doesn´t make it right.
Even if the bees are treated well, that still leaves all the other issues (environmental, etc). I guess the statements are focused on industrial honey farming, which I'm sure the majority of all honey in supermarkets comes from.
Your friend is still contributing to wild bees being outcompeted by his honeybees.
@@jacquiskliros637 hmm.. but if he catches wild bees, then how they supose to outcompete wild bees.. it's the same species
@@jestem.mrowka.bigbitowka5238 good luck catching wild bees. But I agree, that probably would be better.
Love this video. very well thought out and articulated!
Bees are one of the very few animals which consent to be farmed - if your bees dont like your hive, they sod off. The keeper has to care for them - plant flowers, monitor for signs of disease, take only excess honey. What you're objecting to is factory farming - people having one hive at the bottom of the garden is good for your plants; and means we get a sweetner nither shipped halfway round the world nor derived from petrol
I really needed that video to send to friends and family when they ask “not even HONEY???”
@Amanley Load I do think not all things in the video are always true. Not all beekeepers kill their bees in winter for example.
What does happen, however, is the prevention of swarming by killing off drones. That is also a way of trying to prevent the varroamite from spreading in your colony.
That is another issue. The varroamite spreads in honey bee colonies quite easily which can then spread to solitary/wild bees.
Another thing I find interesting about your response is that you say "most of the time the human ones feed their honey back to them to regain strength." To me this implies that the honey is ours, while it is the natural food for the bees, which they produced for themselves. You seem to not even argue for the fact that the bees produce too much and we just take the leftovers, which most people would.
And to the point of the bees being killed because "Those bees was attacking children and suspected agressie african genetics.": wild bees, at least in the UK and Europe, (almost) never attack humans. Seems to me that this is another reason not to keep them.
This video doesn't have much appeal to anybody who isn't already Stanning Ed.
If you send it to your family and friends they'll probably think you've been indoctrinated.
There us not enough wild pollination insects for all the plants. They will not be affected by honey bee.
@Amanley Load finally someone who understands that this video is bs. Nobody i know treats his bees like in this video. Pure nonsense.
This video is pure propaganda. If you're interested in actually learning more, there are literally millions of hours of beekeeping videos on TH-cam. Please don't make assumptions based on 6 and a half minutes of biased information.
I did know all that I must admit .
My experience with honey keeping was different as my neighbour was bee keeper as small holder.
He didnt do non of that.
usually a beekeeper prepares his colonies for winter (meaning to make sure they have enough food until next spring). its not common practice to kill a hive after summer. a beekeeper normally wants his colonies to survive and tries everything to reach that goal. they only need to be killed if there is a problem (infectious desease or them being overaggressive to a degree where they are dangerous)
@Amanley Load there is a few things i (a beekeeper myself) dont understand in the video. it is said it s cheaper to kill a hive than getting it ready for winter. i dont know prices all over the world, but here in middle europe, germany - i'd say its about 20 euros: bee feed (sirup or own honey or combo of both ) inclusive varroa winter medication - while a new colony is about 130-150 euros. i dont understand how he can say its cheaper to kill.... about 20 euros vs 150. maybe im missing something.
@@steffomatic its most likely really cheap when they do it on a wide scale. I'd imagine large companies probably get batches of them really cheap, considering insects are one of the easiest things to breed. Bees sold to hobbyist are so expensive because there's a chance the person buying them will never buy from that company again, since the person now has the ability to generate in theory "infinite bees". This is how I have two hives going, the first one swarmed and i collected them. This is purely speculation on my part but if bees really were that expensive the companies wouldn't just kill them.
@Amanley Load Why are you so eager to call veganism a cult?
@@22minecraftguy well , i cant say for sure how it is for all parts of the world, but here in germany and other european countries all fellow beekeepers i know, hobby beekeepers or commercial beekeepers with xxx colonies, would call it simply insanity to kill off a healthy hive instead of maintaining it and taking care of as good as possible - i cannot imagine it being cheaper to kill it here...(usually hobby beekeepers or commercial beekeepers multiply their colonies every year by creating own nucs, i do, too - and if a beekeeper wants to reduce, hes gonna sell some colonies - and if a beekeeper wants to expand, hes gonna buy some extra ones.prices are very similar and do not vary that much in general). Even commercial beekeepers need to buy new queens occasionally - and they also pay 20+ euros for one(or even 100 or more). i dont see them getting super extra conditions for getting batches - maybe 10-20% discount, maybe not . i dont know about china or other asian places for example. ive seen some footage from chinese mass production (honey) and i must say what i saw was disgusting and it should be boykotted - i condemn this , too. bottom line is - i do not understand some parts of the video, i do not agree on everything and i dont like how things are generalized way too much. (like all beekeepers cut/trim the wings of the queen, etc. etc. - nobody i know does that crap)
Thank you a thousand times for all that you do ❤
Thank you for sharing this video!
Being vegan, I never ate honey because I felt it wasn’t my food to take. However, I had no idea how unbalancing domestic bees are for the ecosystem and the way they are bred. This was very informative. Will definitely share!
In Harmony With Earth “vegan” bee keeper is an oxymoron. You can’t change the definition of veganism to fit your non-vegan lifestyle. idc how nice you are to the bees, if you’re using them for profit or personal pleasure then you’re not vegan. idk why people who wish to use others want to label themselves as part of a cause they don’t truly believe in.
This video is vegan propaganda. Start beekeeping yourself to learn the truth about what goes on. Until then? Don’t watch propaganda videos.
So you won't eat processed pollen (honey, which DOESN'T hurt plants)... but you'll rip off the plant's reproductive organs and eat them raw?
You won't allow bees to share the excess food they store up humanely... but you'll actively steal food from a helpless little baby bunny?
How can you be so heartless and mean?
I hate it when people kill insects for no reason, just leave them alone they aren’t hurting you in any way.
I agree, I can't stand cockroaches though.
Do you know how many insects die for your stupid vegan diet?
I don’t get why they can’t just release the bees rather than killing them :/
GarudaLegends find a more useful way to spend your time, sweaty
Not harming you in any way? Have you heard about mosquitos? They bite humans carrying diseases. That causes harm.
Thanks for the video
Needed this. Thank you
Thank you for sharing Ed, didn’t know about this at all
Thanks so much for laying this out, Ed!
This comes up a lot in my daily vegan travels and people can’t seem to compute that there can be exploitation and cruelty to bees in the same basic ways we do to agriculture animals.
Also, side note, I don’t even like honey. Agave nectar is way better!
People don't realize bees produce honey to eat and it's just as bad as milk...
@@nekochadechu I feel like you're cheapening what happens to a cow by equating it to honey.
@@wisemage0 Ah i'm sorry, i meant in the way that taking bees' honey is like taking cows' milk in the sense that they produce it to feed themselves, and since some people (even some vegans sometimes) don't understand that for bees because they are insects.
@@nekochadechu you lack the knowledge to form an opinion. In your world, the bees would suffer and die.
@@shadowthehedgehog9190 almost all of it.
Fantastic video Ed. Thank you very much to you and the rest of the Surge team.
Very enlightening.
They even exhibit pessimism? Well jeez, I know the feeling, bees. Can't say I blame ya
Thanks for making this 👍
wow a though video to watch! I can only imagine being the bees who go through this treatment! they deserve better, much appreciated for sharing Ed 💛
Great video, very clear and compelling. Where can I see citations? I want to send this to my mother in law, but I was looking for some sort of citations so that I could also see the literature, or sources to this video so as to better prepare arguments I've had, and you've provided against honey consumption.
Thanks for making this
This video brought up viewpoints I had never heard before. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for teaching us!
He is not teaching you, he is lying to you.
Just the video I wanted. Thnx Ed.
Brilliant video Ed!! Will be sharing this with some of my friends!!
Thank you for this, Ed!!
Great video! Very well made and informative
Thank you and blessings!
Could we please get a link to this study? I'd like to study it.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190626160339.htm
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www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-27591-y
Honestly, I hate humans sometimes.
most of the time.
Yeah only took around 100 years to destroy bast amount of ecosystems because of dissonance cognitive and greed hope our generation when all baby boomers Politicians die out can make turn before we destroy ourselves
"Keeping these bees alive decreases our profit by 2%, fucking gas them"
Typical human hating vegan
@@anulfolantigua6291 As Steve Jobs wisely said:
"Death is nature's mechanism to get rid of the old and make way for the new"
We milenials were cursed with being given a far worse planet than our parents and grand parents were given, but we were also very blessed with social media that helps us carry information and provide eye opening insights, so we have the capacity to change and make the world a better place. Correct the injustice done by previous generations.
Brilliant!
Thankyou for sharing this information
another excellent video. i learn so much from you. thanks!
You lern nothing but lies in this video.
Very good. I always learn something new, even as a beekeeper's child. I have never heard of the industrial practices you explain at the beginning, but the arguments still stand.
For the first couple months of being vegan I still ate honey, but then I saw the horror of the honey industry and immediately stopped consuming it. This videos has more information in it than all of the other videos about honey I’ve seen. Well done.
Just buy local honey from a small scale local beekeeper. Then you can enjoy it knowing the bees were well looked after.
I've seen rainforest beeing burnt to make place for soya bean plantations. So, will you stop eating soya products now? Not all honey is produced in the same way exactly as soya products aren't produced in the same way.
@@aakesson1 To feed cows
@@nigelpearson7228 Ok... Next time read the entire comment.
@@aakesson1 You're not wrong, I prefer oat milk to soya, but sometimes get soya if it's cheaper. Personally I can live without honey, but if I was to buy it regularly I would do my research.
Great video thank you ed.
There's just no way this is regular beekeeper practice. I can see it being a corporation approach, but none of this seems cost effective for farmers.
Bees are so cute 🥺
Thank you, this is such an informative video that I wish everyone would watch.
Nobody should take this serious, this is some serious misinformation at best.
This was so helpful and informative
Wow, i didn’t know most of this! Thank you, Ed!
Because most of it if not everything is utter nonsense.
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Trolling the trolls🙏🙏
Yes Louis.
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Human beings are natural omnivores
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Wow, I had no idea. This is so sad 😞
This video was inteded to emotionally blackmail you. It is not your fault. We are simply being manipulated. Hypocrite just shows you, what will elicit your emotions to fall for his agenda. My friend creates honey a care for his bees. What he would tell you would make you fall in love with honey (and him, kinda cute).
This video is pure propaganda. If you're interested in actually learning more, there are literally millions of hours of beekeeping videos on TH-cam. Please don't make assumptions based on 6 and a half minutes of biased information.
Thank you for educating me!
That was a tough watch. Thank you.
All of this also applies to beeswax, found in many cosmetics and creams, lipbalms, candles and so on. Often listed in Latin in ingredients lists, as "Cera alba", or I've seen it also listed as "Cera flava".
I was wondering about this earlier today because I was offered a jar of honey but took a jar of fig preserves instead. As always, thanks for the information, Ed!
Ironically figs most likely have dead bees inside of them since som bees lay their eggs inside of figs but the larvae (the male ones) don’t always leave the fig!
Smuf Zetta 😩 Thanks for informing me 😅
Smuf Zetta only certain species of organic figs, almost all figs you buy at the store either aren’t compatible with wasps or are grown inside to prevent wasps laying eggs. Either way, at least we aren’t intentionally trying to use and kill those wasps as we do bees
I keep bees and do none of the things you describe, never killed one.
That's great. There's a big difference though between domestic hives and big industrial honey business.
Most of these videos focus on the extremes. The real problem is corporate farming generally. But because the largest and most powerful farming industries of all animal by-products are SUPER extreme, we have to shape our advocacy to counteract that.
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Even the best save the bees efforts that beekeepers make often don't do enough to promote the populations of non-honey bees (the ones who are better pollinators and who the planet most needs). Do you have suggestions for non-beekeepers to promote healthy populations of non-honey bees? I'd love to know more
You probably still do all the harmful effects on local native bees described in the second half of the video tho. Unless you somehow keep them fully enclosed.
You don't exploit them for what they produce. By taking the food they make for themselves??
We come to an arrangement
Thank you for the effort to create this informative video.
I've been wanting to find good sources of information about this for a while. Can you show some pointers or links to where you found out about the negative implications on the ecosystem?
...because a spoonful of honey is a lifetime of work for a bee. #NoExploitationIsTooSmall
and it HELPS the Bees you utter imbecile who knows NOTHING about Bee Keeping. Bees are honey making machines, they never stop. They would fill all their combs with honey, with no room for new brood if we didn't take it. Result, dead Bees once the old ones die. By taking the excess, we are literally doing them a favour, leaving fresh empty combs for them to breed new Bees. It's one of the most symbiotic relationships we have with nature. Not only that, we can treat them for Varroa mites when they happen, lowering Bee deaths dramatically. THAT is what caused the Bee decline problem in the first place and Bee Keepers are what ended it and brought their numbers back up.
@@MrBilld75 Why do you think they produce excess honey? Would they produce so much excess if they were kept in the wild, or weren't artificially bred?
@@rainonedavid3564 Yes, Bees are honey making machines, they never stop, so they would fill hives regardless. The delusion of Vegan imbeciles is that we shouldn't farm honey, but were it not for Beekeepers, you'd have NO Bees and plant foods now, that's the hard reality.
The Bee decline a few years ago (and is still a challenge) was reversed and brought back to healthy numbers PRECISELY BECAUSE of Bee Keepers. Without them, where is the chemical treatment of their hives to kill the Varroa mites which were infecting them? It wasn't GMO or Neonic pesticides killing them or any other evidence lacking nonsense people claimed.
It was Varroa mites responsible for most of it and we can solve that rather simply in a way that doesn't harm Bees, but it is something humans have to do, the Bees cannot. Meanwhile the Vegans suck back Agave nectar as an alternative, killing long nose Bats. Vegan irony is great and bites them in their stupid asses constantly. Lol. This is what happens when you become a blind, brainwashed, feckless Vegan cultist.
@@MrBilld75 "were it not for Beekeepers, you'd have NO Bees" Okay, explain how wild bees survive. We're not farming them so by your logic they should all be dead.
@@blahdelablah Not talking about those Bees, you dishonest fool. I am talking about the Bee decline issue that was so widely talked about, good grief, be honest for once in your life. Beekeepers helped the decline recover, period and proven. Grow a brain, you pathetic fool. We'd have no pollinating Bees for crops, stupid.
spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/news/2019/06/19/bee-keepers-working-to-save-declining-bee-populations
thank you for informing me I had no idea :) great video as always
Thank you so much for all of your work!! I love your content. ❤️
This is a very untruthfull video don't listen to any of it he showed really experienced beekeepers killing the hive bc it was aggressive and stinging kids so ya and they polonate supper well I've had the best apples and other crops bc I've had my bee hive
The best way I figure for humans to "fix" nature and it's balance is to just f-ing leave things alone! "She'll" come back on her own.
I actually agree with this comment so much!!! All of our “fixing” does more harm than good. Nature will recover if we leave well enough alone.
Mmm, no. Miss me with that nature mysticism. We've already meddled when we brought invasive species. Leave things alone and the midwest will be overrun by tumbleweeds, for example.
As a vegan, I feel we should leave meat eaters alone and let them do what they want. I can understand why meat eater hate us vegan now... always nagging at them to be vegan. Like just leave them alone!
Patrick Di Salvo far removed from nature ? Because buying a packaged piece of factory farmed meat from Asda is very natural 😂😂
@Patrick Di Salvo I love how all of a sudden all these things are only the fault of vegans now. Enjoy your nihilism I guess since it seems like absolute perfection means free reign to not take the first step.
I'm not going to say no one does this. But I have bees and it's nothing like this lol. They are nice. And I try to help them and in return I take some honey for me. And I help them thru the winter.
Their presence will create a competition between the natural bees, a competition the natural bees can't win, damaging the surrounding environment and natural bee population.
@@danp2687 idk if you noticed but the world if far from natural. I pick up litter all the time. People are burning trash and destroying stuff all day. Beekeeping is a lesser evil. Assuming the beekeeper is not doing crazy stuff to the bees.
Great video