The sister’s reaction just broke my heart, you can see the despair realizing how her sister has been living, realizing they’ve been going shopping together and adding to the hoard….I feel so bad for her.
Over 90% return to their hoarding filthy ways. And blame. They always blame. I’ve seen it. Not to this extent but bad. They destroy every place they go to.
@@galissss4890 Yes, this seems likely. She's fed-up being the unpaid maid, and thought "surely if I stop cleaning up after the oversized toddler he'll clean up after himself eventually..." What she failed to take into account is that male laziness and male entitlement are bottomless chasms, and if they think they are owed something from a woman, neither heaven nor earth will make them provide for themselves. I hope she leaves him.
and the ' pretend ' curtains don't keep a single kilojoule of heat in .... it's time the world WOKE UP to PROPER WINDOW COVERINGS ..... that can GUARANTEE .....minimum 40% heat retention ... when used correctly
i mean i think it makes sense. everyone is going to have their own feelings. sadness bc of how theyre living and they want better for their family, but mad because they may think they did it to themselves even tho its a mental illness, and mad and frustration out of trying to understand how someone allows themselves to live that way. honestly i would feel both!
If you didn’t know that’s how they lived you’d be sad. If you’re one of those people that gets yelled and screamed at by the hoarder because you’re always telling them they have to change their ways and they’re in denial then you’re probably super angry that it was allowed to get that bad.
watching most of these episodes and realizing that many of these people are my grandmother's age...it makes me think of my grandmother's safety even though she doesn't hoard. it just makes me anxious.
Well, this time around, my heart goes out for Joyce. She has given up. I am not saying that it isn't easy for her husband but, the fact that he doesn't make an effort himself and expects her to clean up after him, only adds to the problem. I am so happy to see that all of Joyce's nice things were kept and used to set up her rooms.
Sometimes men get the wrong idea about women. They are not 24/7 house maids. Give and take on both sides. Has Wallace been able to just pick up after himself?
Just come across this vid now and immediately spotted the problem: Wallace. His poor wife was so worn out and frightened trying to cope with his laziness, she used buying as a displacement activity and the items to build a shell for herself. The confrontation over the dirty plates was so telling.
Get real. Yep, he maybe lazy but she’s the one who made it into a pigsty. If they just showed a dirty house, I’d blame 50/50… but the hoarding wasn’t Wallace. She’s just playing the poor victim
Not being judgmental but he does look over weight so probably eats a lot in order to cope maybe with all the clutter and stress. Making messes and not cleaning behind him and she gets mad at that. But she causes the main issue.
How did this end up turning on the husband? Why didn’t they ask him about how he feels emotionally and mentally about all of this hoarding she does? I know he is fed up too.
I think the hoarding is about getting a reaction from her husband. Not to cause a fight, but almost a cry for help. And he doesn't react the way she needs. They live separately instead.
This is a condensed version of this episode. The full version covers this problem more. I am a literal OCD cleaner, partially due to my Asperger’s need for a peaceful and orderly environment. I married a slob. A good man, but a slob whose inability to see and remedy messes has caused me enormous stress and years of feeling helpless in my own home. I can relate to this woman. Imagine the petty level of gaslighting when they were talking about the napkin in the sink. Her husband said, “You’re spending a half an hour asking me about one paper napkin.” Which means he stood there for x amount of time justifying his actions rather than cleaning up after himself and/or acknowledging it frustrated his wife, all while blaming the mystery crew person, and the therapist, and the pipes... It’s like living with a toddler, except toddlers learn and grow out of self absorption.
Where do the hoarders get the money to buy all this stuff. I watch all of the A&E hoarders episodes and I’m amazed at all the stuff which leads to the question of where do they get the money to buy all of it.??
Some people eat restaurant food. Some people hit the dollar store and clearance sales. I don’t think it’s that hard to fill your house with stuff over 20 years without spending a ton of cash over that time period.
I have a friend that used to hit the yard sales every Sat, 7 am. Her house just has little pathways. The problem is, she can fill up her house pretty quickly and cheaply. Also yard sales are condusive to random/impulse buying for things you may/may not need in the future. If you are buying at a store, it's usually for something specifically that you need.
Not necessarily so. I helped clean up an old man’s house when it got in near hoarder state. He was so proud of how it looked it really changed his life. A clean house lifted his self-esteem. He started being more social. the therapy he needed was what we all need -- human contact. Now he doesn’t let his house get cluttered. He has a lady friend now and he doesn’t want to scare her away.
It’s sad, having watched so many episodes, that all I can think is, “I can see the floor. They can use the stove. There’s a useable chair there. Do they really qualify for this show?” Yes. Yes they do.
I always get upset when I watch hoarders bc I get afraid I’m going to turn into one of those people. Since I was a child I’d hoard things bc I couldn’t bear to throw it away. I’m getting better but it’s an up and down. I’m 19 and as I’ve gotten older the past few years keeping up with the clutter has gotten really hard and I’ve resorted to and come to terms with stepping over things and having piles in every corner. But I’m hoping when I get my mental health situated eventually I can start healing before I turn into a full blown hoarder.
I pretend I am on a sinking ship and I have to jettison things to stay afloat. I also take 3 things to the charity stores for each thing I bring in. Plus watching Hoarders. Just remember objects have power, when you get rid of them they have no power over you.
Excellent Horacio you can do it. I know it's so overwhelming though. You are right just start now and do baby steps. If you can, a good idea is to take stuff outside, sit in a chair and have some boxes and start throwing. I know it's hard in Winter so you will have to do it inside then. Just know that every little bit helps and try to fill a box every now and then to toss away. Getting outside away from the chaos helps of course if it's possible and sorting out there. Blessings.
That is true, and that is what these people are doing. That is why they cannot get rid of them. The object triggers an emotional response that is usually not a good one, and adds to their depression. These people are trapped in their memories and unfortunate attachments.
When you get motivated too purge do small areas. And let things go. Don't try too do all in one day!! And seek counseling. With out therapy, and support you'll not deal with the issues behind the keeping of things. Things do not make you who you are. Good luck.
But what are they going to do about the heat, water and air conditioning? I feel so down when elderly people live like this. And it’s happening everywhere.
My home is much like this one. My wife has rooms full of stuff, all of it mixed with everything else, making it impossible to just pick up a box and toss it into the trash. I would ask my wife to start going through her stuff and taking what she doesn't need to the Thrift Store, or the Trash. She never did. Instead, she just added more. My wife too complains about a bit of Bread crust I left in front of the toaster, while the rest of the home is stacked full. I would think, your complaining about a small bit of toast? I just brought up this subject with her earlier today and she told me she hasn't had time to go through her stuff. Sadly, I see no positive end to this situation. Busting up is where I think this is all going, and for such stupid reasons too. And yet, the stacks of stuff is very real, and is only getting worse as time goes on. Crazy!
You can usually trace it (hoarding) down to one or more events that causes acute mental illness. Most of these stories I hear are all the same, everything was normal until one day.... Almost all personal problems can be linked to unstable mental health and wellbeing.
The thing I'll never understand in these situations is when its like this, when its a couple and one is against it, the other is the hoarder themselves. The hoarder has a problem of course but the spouse has to be a severe enabler to ever let it get bad. Trash ends up on the floor and you just.. let it sit there, until the trash is now so high that it fills half the room?? If you picked up that trash from the start it'd never have been a problem lol Edit:: Now that I've watched the episode, I understand. He's a slob and she's a hoarder
There are layers to it though. I'm a hoarder (mostly in recovery now but there have been ups and downs over the years) and my partners that I've lived with TRIED to deal with it and I wouldn't let them. It would cause me panic if they tried to throw away my things. I wanted to respect their desire for a clean house, but hoarding comes with anxiety and control disorders, so I had to do it all myself. When it starts out, you just say "Oh, I'll move these boxes somewhere else out of the way so they don't bother you." but as the piles take over, you run out of places to put them. My bedroom was the worst, because that was my way of getting stuff out of common areas. I still shared the bedroom with my partner, but I let it fill to the brim because I justified "Well, that room is my space, and if you don't want it in the living room, it has to go somewhere." So sometimes the other person is an enabler, sometimes the other person is just not equipped to handle the mental health issues that cause this.
@@ArionlappyYOUR space!? Wow, not “Our Space”, “My Space”; Yeah, why not go, “MY Space, MY Room, MY House, home or whatever” Cause that’s where this is headed if that hoard mentality persist…
@@carlsail644 as I explained, it'd a control disorder. Which includes being possessive about your things and your spaces. So yes, the "my space, my things" is part of it. And we were not married and that partner did break up with me many years ago. The hoarding wasn't the only reason of course but I am very aware what the state if the house did to mental health, so it was definitely part of it. I moved from that house a few years after the breakup and got rid of a lot. My current space isn't nearly as hoarded, but it's still a journey to conquer the mindsets that cause it. And not that I blame my ex partner for being a hoarder, but living with my partners has seemed to exacerbate my problem. Some kind of stress-control thing. So currently I don't live with my partner and I think that works for so I can manage my own selfish issues.
What a weirdo comment. It's a mental illness brought on by trauma. I HOPE they are taking "pharmaceuticals" because that is often the path back to good mental health, that and CBT therapy.
The common thread in most hoarders is emotional trauma. They’ve suffered a loss. it’s depression, deep anxiety coupled with OCD. I have a cousin who is a hoarder. They imagine a bleak future where they have nothing and no one. And all this junk is how they brace themselves to have something in the dark days ahead.
I feel so sorry for the husband, they tried to turn all of this around as if it was him when he wasnt the one with a problem. He is suffering to the point he is thinking of leaving and their response is to act as if he should be following her and cleaning up after her hoarding. Poor guy.
exactly. gotta love how joyce completely turns the situation around on him and then has the audacity to act like she doesn't know if SHE can stay with HIM. like sorry, what? you're the one who created this horde over time which slowly began to destroy your home and marriage, but your husband still stuck around and dealt with it, but now all of a sudden you're not sure that you can stay with him....?
she was embarrassed. instead of taking responsibility for themselves they make their partner look like the problem. lots of the hoarder on this show (for some reason mostly women) try to put the blame on someone else because they cant accept the fact that they have a serious medical issue.
@Paul O'Sullivan. They do touch base with him in the full episode. Those segments are left out in this condensed version of the original episode. I think the concern was the husband was using his wife's hoarding problem to shield his own slobbish behaviour and thus contributing to the problem without taking ownership of it. In the full version he kept excusing his mess because his wife's mess was bigger. Sort of like "why are you taking notice of my mole-hill while you're supposed to be looking at the mountain". But I personally think it was him mentally checking out and I have pity for him. Often times people give the main consideration to the hoarder and gloss over how the chaos can mentally damage other family members who have to live with the mess too. But that's just how it is when there's a time constraint. People prioritise the main issue and hope all the other issues solve themselves once the crux has been dealt with. The husband resents the wife for the hoarding and thinks what's one more crumpled used napkin on top of the hoard? While the wife in turn resents him for not acknowledging his contribution to the mess even if the bulk of the blame is on her. I can understand the source of frustration on both sides, but I think the husband was a bit hard done by even if his issue had to be addressed too.
they lucky that she admits to it being junk. I know this sweet old lady that is a hoarder and she swears she needs everything and none of it is junk. and if you were to throw anything away she would have a stroke. it's hard to watch.. few if us have cleaned up her place and within a year it was filled again with junk
Someone gave context from the full episode elsewhere: the crew noticed Wallace wasn’t helping and wouldn’t lift a finger, and that discussion about the dish was the culmination of that. Notice how he immediately jumped to justifying why he couldn’t put his napkin in the bin, instead of just doing it? That’ll be what his wife has put up with for who knows how long, and likely she gave up on picking up after him like a maid. The hoarding definitely came after his laziness, likely as a control/coping mechanism (and i’d say a way to get out of the house). Apparently he also used abusive language towards her, and she admitted she was fearful of him.
Her mind is so cluttered. She's not in the right mental space to make such a life altering decision as divorce at this age especially when they had such a loving past! They need each other. Man this is devastating to see one's parents at such a stage in their old age. They need some counselling and the family should surround them and keep them in check. Can't believe the sister took her shopping and for 10 years never stepped into her house 😳 not blaming her in particular but come on now family.
Yes. I agree. I think if she was to leave him now, she would hoard where ever she lives twice as fast as she did this house. Its how she copes with life. So she needs to find new ways of coping, well before making a life changing decision or she will simply do what she has been doing, just twice as much.
Why am I watching this? Hoarders really disgust me, their whole attitude towards stuff that's obsolete, broken and filthy goes over my head completely. I understand the psychology and that they are broken inside and the it's not about the stuff but about their broken way of seeing things. So don't focus on cleaning their house, but focus on their view on reality.
What snapped in their relationship for Joyce to go this route? Also, do the therapist or organizer meet with the hoarder before everyone shows up to purge the clutter?
Other things done came in,,,,🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think you mean , other things were brought in, or came in, not done came in. Grammar police🤣 punctuation police get me
It's really cold there so U want to have your home clutter free so you have somewhere to be warm and able to move freely. You can't sit outside in a Ohio Winter so U wanna make your home as comfy as possible.
The hoard tells the non-hoarding spouse to try to be normal for a while? LOL! And no--clearly she can't get rid of that stuff, or she would have done it. I don't blame the guy for giving up and carving out a space for himself. She is "not gonna give up my house!" And of course she has family apologizing for not helping her. OMG!! HIS plate is IN THE SINK! Horrible man! Maybe he just didn't want to get roped into the drama, so he did the easy thing--he dumped it INTO THE SINK which is not a bad place--and then he ran to hide. Her dishes made it nowhere near the sink. She doesn't want to stay with Wallace. Now that someone else cleaned up her chaos and filth, she wants him to get lost, LOL! I wonder who actually paid for the house. RUN WALLACE, RUN! Serve her divorce papers and take half the assets!
I thought I heard Joyce say she didn' want to live with Wallace but was scared to start over again and then the psych team said how huge it was that she said she was scared to live with him but should be left with him when they were gone wtf?
Try too normal Wallace!!! Ahh what is normal having too live in a horaded home!!!and where is she getting the money too shop!! Cut up those credit cards!!!
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The sister’s reaction just broke my heart, you can see the despair realizing how her sister has been living, realizing they’ve been going shopping together and adding to the hoard….I feel so bad for her.
These hoarders have mental disorder .Maybe some of them r just too lazy to do anything.,....
This just Hits A whole Family
I’d love to see these homes one year later. I’ve got a feeling some of them will be back to what they were!
They probably will be, if not worse; Hoarders are rarely cured and keep hoarding for the rest of their lives.
I love when they do update episodes so much
most of these people need to be in assisted living with strict rules. a lot of them cannot be helped/fixed.
Some have
Over 90% return to their hoarding filthy ways. And blame. They always blame. I’ve seen it. Not to this extent but bad. They destroy every place they go to.
I was so glad to hear the sister say “I’ll never take her shopping again”
she gonna go alone with a uber something
"He leaves the counter dirty and never cleans the oven" says Joyce 😂😂😂😂
And wants Wallace to act normal while living among this chaos
my opinion is she stopped cleaning because she got done cleaning after the big child, and that’s how the clutter originally began to form
@@galissss4890 Yes, this seems likely. She's fed-up being the unpaid maid, and thought "surely if I stop cleaning up after the oversized toddler he'll clean up after himself eventually..." What she failed to take into account is that male laziness and male entitlement are bottomless chasms, and if they think they are owed something from a woman, neither heaven nor earth will make them provide for themselves. I hope she leaves him.
@@galissss4890 Yes, it was her form of control. I'm sick of doing it on my own, so I'm not doing anything.....
That space heater has to be the most dangerous active hazard in that house.
and the ' pretend ' curtains don't keep a single kilojoule of heat in .... it's time the world WOKE UP to PROPER WINDOW COVERINGS ..... that can GUARANTEE .....minimum 40% heat retention ... when used correctly
it's really interesting how some family members get sad and others get angry when they see the hoard.
I would be 🤬
i mean i think it makes sense. everyone is going to have their own feelings. sadness bc of how theyre living and they want better for their family, but mad because they may think they did it to themselves even tho its a mental illness, and mad and frustration out of trying to understand how someone allows themselves to live that way. honestly i would feel both!
I think if they’re emotionally intelligent they’ll be sad.
If you didn’t know that’s how they lived you’d be sad. If you’re one of those people that gets yelled and screamed at by the hoarder because you’re always telling them they have to change their ways and they’re in denial then you’re probably super angry that it was allowed to get that bad.
Either way the true feelings comes out.
I really appreciate Dr. Green and her approaches. Firm yet empathetic. She knows what she's doing alright.
I’m not sure any sane person can live with a hoarder. It’s just too hard.
“I can get rid of this stuff! I can get rid of it! I just don’t feel like it!” - Joyce 😂
Lol! 🤣😭
Lacey has a beautiful voice. I hope she reads audio books or does radio or something where she can share her voice.
She was putting barricades between herself and her husband. That’s sad. I hope they work it all out.
I wonder if the real problem is if a hoarder is faced with a clean home it's proof their hoarding is unacceptable.
Thank you, Wallace, for your service.
How y’all gonna do Wallace like that with subtitles lol 😂
10:43 he does have teeth tho
When stuff becomes a protective shell around a person.
I do hope most of that went to charity and not straight to the dump.
@FiftyfourhundredWattNot much, but it's nice to give to people who actually DO need it, dumba$$.
watching most of these episodes and realizing that many of these people are my grandmother's age...it makes me think of my grandmother's safety even though she doesn't hoard. it just makes me anxious.
Well, this time around, my heart goes out for Joyce. She has given up. I am not saying that it isn't easy for her husband but, the fact that he doesn't make an effort himself and expects her to clean up after him, only adds to the problem. I am so happy to see that all of Joyce's nice things were kept and used to set up her rooms.
Sometimes men get the wrong idea about women. They are not 24/7 house maids. Give and take on both sides. Has Wallace been able to just pick up after himself?
Just come across this vid now and immediately spotted the problem: Wallace. His poor wife was so worn out and frightened trying to cope with his laziness, she used buying as a displacement activity and the items to build a shell for herself. The confrontation over the dirty plates was so telling.
Get real. Yep, he maybe lazy but she’s the one who made it into a pigsty. If they just showed a dirty house, I’d blame 50/50… but the hoarding wasn’t Wallace. She’s just playing the poor victim
My heart goes out to the Husband, He is a Saint to have stuck around so long.
Woman buys tons of trash, destroys home-everyone pities her. Guy leaves plate in sink-he’s satan.
Not being judgmental but he does look over weight so probably eats a lot in order to cope maybe with all the clutter and stress. Making messes and not cleaning behind him and she gets mad at that. But she causes the main issue.
It’s never about the plate. It’s never about the stuff.
😂 Well, might as well play devil's advocate then:
The plate was the last straw! 😜
How did this end up turning on the husband? Why didn’t they ask him about how he feels emotionally and mentally about all of this hoarding she does? I know he is fed up too.
I’m hoping they left some key things out because the way it’s edited doesn’t make sense. Comes off as he’s being held responsible for her habits.
Man bad, women good. Typical new age stuff.
I think the hoarding is about getting a reaction from her husband. Not to cause a fight, but almost a cry for help. And he doesn't react the way she needs. They live separately instead.
@@TheBlindMarksmen grow up man you gotta look at yourself first before you cry like this😭 now what in the world is that pfp
This is a condensed version of this episode. The full version covers this problem more. I am a literal OCD cleaner, partially due to my Asperger’s need for a peaceful and orderly environment. I married a slob. A good man, but a slob whose inability to see and remedy messes has caused me enormous stress and years of feeling helpless in my own home. I can relate to this woman. Imagine the petty level of gaslighting when they were talking about the napkin in the sink. Her husband said, “You’re spending a half an hour asking me about one paper napkin.” Which means he stood there for x amount of time justifying his actions rather than cleaning up after himself and/or acknowledging it frustrated his wife, all while blaming the mystery crew person, and the therapist, and the pipes... It’s like living with a toddler, except toddlers learn and grow out of self absorption.
marital counseling a MUST
No, the man must find peace. He needs his own place, away from that crazy woman.
She clearly said that she couldn't go on living with him. He should run!
Where do the hoarders get the money to buy all this stuff. I watch all of the A&E hoarders episodes and I’m amazed at all the stuff which leads to the question of where do they get the money to buy all of it.??
Some people eat restaurant food. Some people hit the dollar store and clearance sales. I don’t think it’s that hard to fill your house with stuff over 20 years without spending a ton of cash over that time period.
@@violetgypsie Good point.
I have a friend that used to hit the yard sales every Sat, 7 am. Her house just has little pathways. The problem is, she can fill up her house pretty quickly and cheaply. Also yard sales are condusive to random/impulse buying for things you may/may not need in the future. If you are buying at a store, it's usually for something specifically that you need.
They don't buy soap, detergent, cleaning and grooming stuff. They don't bathe or clean. That adds up 😂
@@peggypeggy4137 Good point!!
1:18 "What you talkin' bout, Wallace?"
Thank you Wallace, for your service!🇺🇲
How can you call yourself tidy this place reduced her sister to tears.😔😔😔
"I can get rid of this stuff, but I just don't feel like it" is the hoarder's version of a smoker or drinker saying "I can quite whenever I want to."
How do these hoarders find people to marry them?
And not only that, but people that will stay with them for decades!!!
Smh their house is gonna go right back to filth after all that work
This happens all the time.
If they dont go the therapy this will happen. They need mental help, not just physical help.
Smh very sad what a waste of time and resiurces
Very true they absolutely need mental help
Not necessarily so. I helped clean up an old man’s house when it got in near hoarder state. He was so proud of how it looked it really changed his life. A clean house lifted his self-esteem. He started being more social. the therapy he needed was what we all need -- human contact. Now he doesn’t let his house get cluttered. He has a lady friend now and he doesn’t want to scare her away.
It’s sad, having watched so many episodes, that all I can think is, “I can see the floor. They can use the stove. There’s a useable chair there. Do they really qualify for this show?” Yes. Yes they do.
I always get upset when I watch hoarders bc I get afraid I’m going to turn into one of those people. Since I was a child I’d hoard things bc I couldn’t bear to throw it away. I’m getting better but it’s an up and down. I’m 19 and as I’ve gotten older the past few years keeping up with the clutter has gotten really hard and I’ve resorted to and come to terms with stepping over things and having piles in every corner. But I’m hoping when I get my mental health situated eventually I can start healing before I turn into a full blown hoarder.
I pretend I am on a sinking ship and I have to jettison things to stay afloat. I also take 3 things to the charity stores for each thing I bring in. Plus watching Hoarders. Just remember objects have power, when you get rid of them they have no power over you.
Excellent Horacio you can do it. I know it's so overwhelming though. You are right just start now and do baby steps. If you can, a good idea is to take stuff outside, sit in a chair and have some boxes and start throwing. I know it's hard in Winter so you will have to do it inside then. Just know that every little bit helps and try to fill a box every now and then to toss away. Getting outside away from the chaos helps of course if it's possible and sorting out there. Blessings.
That is true, and that is what these people are doing. That is why they cannot get rid of them. The object triggers an emotional response that is usually not a good one, and adds to their depression. These people are trapped in their memories and unfortunate attachments.
When you get motivated too purge do small areas. And let things go. Don't try too do all in one day!! And seek counseling. With out therapy, and support you'll not deal with the issues behind the keeping of things. Things do not make you who you are. Good luck.
you can do this - sending you love, prayer, hugs and positive energy to keep moving forward❤️
Not the worst house I’ve seen on here.
But what are they going to do about the heat, water and air conditioning? I feel so down when elderly people live like this. And it’s happening everywhere.
I just said that too. I th all looked so clean and the pretty colors made it look nicer than all others.
It’s on its way
@@michaeljordan9879 those services can be repaired now that the hoard is cleared. Repairmen couldn't access the plumbing/mechanics b4.
@@loriannrichardson7644 of course they can be repaired. The question is where will the money come from. I hope the best for them .
I seriously couldn't live with a hoarder. There's no way.
My home is much like this one. My wife has rooms full of stuff, all of it mixed with everything else, making it impossible to just pick up a box and toss it into the trash.
I would ask my wife to start going through her stuff and taking what she doesn't need to the Thrift Store, or the Trash. She never did. Instead, she just added more.
My wife too complains about a bit of Bread crust I left in front of the toaster, while the rest of the home is stacked full. I would think, your complaining about a small bit of toast?
I just brought up this subject with her earlier today and she told me she hasn't had time to go through her stuff.
Sadly, I see no positive end to this situation. Busting up is where I think this is all going, and for such stupid reasons too. And yet, the stacks of stuff is very real, and is only getting worse as time goes on.
Crazy!
It doesn't appear overnight.
I would be embarrassed Joyce get rid of him
What about the plumbing and heating issues?
Still, the team only worked on 3 rooms out of the entire house.
Me busy playing video games all year.
Also me a day before the finals - 4:34
she says shes just stressed, i feel bad yeah but for the guy
I can get rid of this junk, I just don’t feel like it. 😂
You can usually trace it (hoarding) down to one or more events that causes acute mental illness. Most of these stories I hear are all the same, everything was normal until one day....
Almost all personal problems can be linked to unstable mental health and wellbeing.
Everything you did our great 👍 job all the crews and all the people behind this show are amazing 🤩
Usually the crew has to dig out. This time they have to dig out to get in and dig. Out.
The thing I'll never understand in these situations is when its like this, when its a couple and one is against it, the other is the hoarder themselves. The hoarder has a problem of course but the spouse has to be a severe enabler to ever let it get bad. Trash ends up on the floor and you just.. let it sit there, until the trash is now so high that it fills half the room?? If you picked up that trash from the start it'd never have been a problem lol Edit:: Now that I've watched the episode, I understand. He's a slob and she's a hoarder
There are layers to it though. I'm a hoarder (mostly in recovery now but there have been ups and downs over the years) and my partners that I've lived with TRIED to deal with it and I wouldn't let them. It would cause me panic if they tried to throw away my things. I wanted to respect their desire for a clean house, but hoarding comes with anxiety and control disorders, so I had to do it all myself. When it starts out, you just say "Oh, I'll move these boxes somewhere else out of the way so they don't bother you." but as the piles take over, you run out of places to put them. My bedroom was the worst, because that was my way of getting stuff out of common areas. I still shared the bedroom with my partner, but I let it fill to the brim because I justified "Well, that room is my space, and if you don't want it in the living room, it has to go somewhere." So sometimes the other person is an enabler, sometimes the other person is just not equipped to handle the mental health issues that cause this.
@@Arionlappy 🙏🏿 it is a NEVERENDING FIGHT to keep our place clean😤
@@thiabrabson2533 I'm sorry you're dealing with that. Is your partner willing to get therapy or address the situation?
@@ArionlappyYOUR space!? Wow, not “Our Space”, “My Space”; Yeah, why not go, “MY Space, MY Room, MY House, home or whatever” Cause that’s where this is headed if that hoard mentality persist…
@@carlsail644 as I explained, it'd a control disorder. Which includes being possessive about your things and your spaces. So yes, the "my space, my things" is part of it. And we were not married and that partner did break up with me many years ago. The hoarding wasn't the only reason of course but I am very aware what the state if the house did to mental health, so it was definitely part of it. I moved from that house a few years after the breakup and got rid of a lot. My current space isn't nearly as hoarded, but it's still a journey to conquer the mindsets that cause it. And not that I blame my ex partner for being a hoarder, but living with my partners has seemed to exacerbate my problem. Some kind of stress-control thing. So currently I don't live with my partner and I think that works for so I can manage my own selfish issues.
I often wonder if anyone has done a survey of hoarders to see how many are taking pharmaceuticals....and which ones.
What a weirdo comment. It's a mental illness brought on by trauma. I HOPE they are taking "pharmaceuticals" because that is often the path back to good mental health, that and CBT therapy.
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The common thread in most hoarders is emotional trauma. They’ve suffered a loss. it’s depression, deep anxiety coupled with OCD. I have a cousin who is a hoarder. They imagine a bleak future where they have nothing and no one. And all this junk is how they brace themselves to have something in the dark days ahead.
I feel so sorry for the husband, they tried to turn all of this around as if it was him when he wasnt the one with a problem. He is suffering to the point he is thinking of leaving and their response is to act as if he should be following her and cleaning up after her hoarding. Poor guy.
exactly. gotta love how joyce completely turns the situation around on him and then has the audacity to act like she doesn't know if SHE can stay with HIM. like sorry, what? you're the one who created this horde over time which slowly began to destroy your home and marriage, but your husband still stuck around and dealt with it, but now all of a sudden you're not sure that you can stay with him....?
she was embarrassed. instead of taking responsibility for themselves they make their partner look like the problem. lots of the hoarder on this show (for some reason mostly women) try to put the blame on someone else because they cant accept the fact that they have a serious medical issue.
I think it was more about what he expected his wife to do than just a dirty plate in the sink.
@Paul O'Sullivan. They do touch base with him in the full episode. Those segments are left out in this condensed version of the original episode. I think the concern was the husband was using his wife's hoarding problem to shield his own slobbish behaviour and thus contributing to the problem without taking ownership of it.
In the full version he kept excusing his mess because his wife's mess was bigger. Sort of like "why are you taking notice of my mole-hill while you're supposed to be looking at the mountain". But I personally think it was him mentally checking out and I have pity for him.
Often times people give the main consideration to the hoarder and gloss over how the chaos can mentally damage other family members who have to live with the mess too. But that's just how it is when there's a time constraint. People prioritise the main issue and hope all the other issues solve themselves once the crux has been dealt with.
The husband resents the wife for the hoarding and thinks what's one more crumpled used napkin on top of the hoard? While the wife in turn resents him for not acknowledging his contribution to the mess even if the bulk of the blame is on her. I can understand the source of frustration on both sides, but I think the husband was a bit hard done by even if his issue had to be addressed too.
@@opheliamaples i totally agree. Wish i can see the full ep
A fresh start in a newly cleaned home should help ALOT. I hope they will work together to keep up with it.
They both remind me of Eddy Murphy caricatures 😂
they lucky that she admits to it being junk. I know this sweet old lady that is a hoarder and she swears she needs everything and none of it is junk. and if you were to throw anything away she would have a stroke. it's hard to watch.. few if us have cleaned up her place and within a year it was filled again with junk
I like how she hoarded the entire house and the guy leaves a dirty dish in the sink and they are treated as equally guilty here lmao
They are as bad as each other. If I lived in that garbage dump I would give up too.
Someone gave context from the full episode elsewhere: the crew noticed Wallace wasn’t helping and wouldn’t lift a finger, and that discussion about the dish was the culmination of that. Notice how he immediately jumped to justifying why he couldn’t put his napkin in the bin, instead of just doing it? That’ll be what his wife has put up with for who knows how long, and likely she gave up on picking up after him like a maid. The hoarding definitely came after his laziness, likely as a control/coping mechanism (and i’d say a way to get out of the house). Apparently he also used abusive language towards her, and she admitted she was fearful of him.
Is this what they call co dependent? Something's really screwed up for sure.
Marriage is a co-dependent relationship.
Lacey seems like a sweetheart.
Her mind is so cluttered. She's not in the right mental space to make such a life altering decision as divorce at this age especially when they had such a loving past! They need each other. Man this is devastating to see one's parents at such a stage in their old age. They need some counselling and the family should surround them and keep them in check. Can't believe the sister took her shopping and for 10 years never stepped into her house 😳 not blaming her in particular but come on now family.
Senseless
Yes. I agree. I think if she was to leave him now, she would hoard where ever she lives twice as fast as she did this house. Its how she copes with life. So she needs to find new ways of coping, well before making a life changing decision or she will simply do what she has been doing, just twice as much.
Compared to other homes that’s been on this show… this really wasn’t that bad.
But not having heat in the home because they can't get to it kinda puts it over the top.
Why am I watching this? Hoarders really disgust me, their whole attitude towards stuff that's obsolete, broken and filthy goes over my head completely. I understand the psychology and that they are broken inside and the it's not about the stuff but about their broken way of seeing things. So don't focus on cleaning their house, but focus on their view on reality.
SHE HAS TO HELP HER SELF CRYING DOES NOT HELP ANYTHING
i hope everyone finds happiness and becomes financially stable or even better
What was your favourite part of this video that you commented on tho 🤔🤷♂️??
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You couldn’t give a flying f**k if any of that happens! You’re just here trying to get likes it’s not sincere 🤷♀️
Happiness is overrated... you grow when you step out of the comfort zone
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The thing that gets me and please help me with that ???
All this things cost money..
Where do they get the money to buy all this ?
O trabalho que essa equipe faz para ajuda essas pessoas e maravilhoso trazer um pouco de alegria mudança na vida delas
Agreed
0:05 LOL you blurred that out? I know that is a Cambell Chicken Soup. So good job on that censorship!
What a time to be de hoarding- snow of all things - especially when tarps are placed outside to organize to move things along and out 🤔
I’m not a hoarder, I’m just stretched ok? Lol
wow ok sis play it up for the camera a little bit more.
Wayment... did she say try to be normal for awhile 🤔 😳
I’ve always understood hoarding to be about loss and anxiety
I could get rid of it but I just don't feel like it... LMFAO!!! 😄
Please can we get an update on all these families?
What snapped in their relationship for Joyce to go this route?
Also, do the therapist or organizer meet with the hoarder before everyone shows up to purge the clutter?
Why no heat? No running water?
This show makes me keep my space clean LOL..
good lord no mention of fixing the heat and plumbing. I live in Ohio and it gets really cold sometimes
…perhaps in the longer version, those issues were discussed.
I feel sorry for the husband
I was excited to get a notification for another episode... 😩 Sad that it's a rerun.
yea there wasnt a new episode on yesterday
It always says for instance
uploaded 6 days ago or suchlike and the videos are 5 years or 10 years old.
@@earnold1896 well yea cause youtube puts the date its uploaded not the date its first aired lmao
Do you honestly believe that these people will clean this house after that? I don't....
“To live your life peacefully.” Your home is a haven from the world and anxiety. It shouldn’t be a source of stress and anxiety.
We all know that’s Campbells soup...
😂
Poor Wallace. He needs to leave her, she is a spoiled brat. She can NOT take responsibility for anything
Look up the word "attitude" in the dictionary and you'll see Joyce's photo
I can get rid this junk, then do it!!
I miss Standolyn as she was such a caring classy person.
Lazy people drive me crazy
Other things done came in,,,,🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think you mean , other things were brought in, or came in, not done came in. Grammar police🤣 punctuation police get me
It's really cold there so U want to have your home clutter free so you have somewhere to be warm and able to move freely. You can't sit outside in a Ohio Winter so U wanna make your home as comfy as possible.
does it snow every winter? `how long does the snow stay on the ground?
All Jokes aside this is really smart, fill the house up with stuff so you have less Sqaure footage then the space heater warms up the house quicker
What if that space heater burns the house down? I guess that's one way to solve the problem! (LOL)
Wth was the thing about the napkin
True, can't find things anymore with those piles 😂
Irrelevant, but the doctor is such a beautiful woman with gorgeous eyes
what kind of family relation is this if her sister hasnt been to the house IN DECADES!
The hoard tells the non-hoarding spouse to try to be normal for a while? LOL! And no--clearly she can't get rid of that stuff, or she would have done it. I don't blame the guy for giving up and carving out a space for himself. She is "not gonna give up my house!" And of course she has family apologizing for not helping her. OMG!! HIS plate is IN THE SINK! Horrible man! Maybe he just didn't want to get roped into the drama, so he did the easy thing--he dumped it INTO THE SINK which is not a bad place--and then he ran to hide. Her dishes made it nowhere near the sink. She doesn't want to stay with Wallace. Now that someone else cleaned up her chaos and filth, she wants him to get lost, LOL! I wonder who actually paid for the house. RUN WALLACE, RUN! Serve her divorce papers and take half the assets!
Joyce’s husband has forgotten she’s a 2nd wife 👀
What does that mean?
Why didn't the bathroom get cleaned up
I throw everything out on a monthly basis if it’s from clutter store/ bargain buys etc etc
Full episodes or more about the cleanup process??
He ain't gonna leave
She's complaining about HIM? That's rich.
I thought I heard Joyce say she didn' want to live with Wallace but was scared to start over again and then the psych team said how huge it was that she said she was scared to live with him but should be left with him when they were gone wtf?
Wallace seems like clutter in her head that she needs to go cold turkey
Was it really cold in that house? I heard about the water leak... was the furnace having issues too? I may have missed something
Nice work 🎆✨
Where can I watch the full length episodes? This videos are so short, I wish I could watch the whole story
Their offical website... If its available in ur country
Not available in my country 😢
Links in description
@@SindhuChimnani use a vpn
Try too normal Wallace!!! Ahh what is normal having too live in a horaded home!!!and where is she getting the money too shop!! Cut up those credit cards!!!
She has the prettiest horde I have ever seen on here.
Love Dr Green!