The Yu-Gi-Oh! Community Has The WORST Takes.
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I want the main deck to have 15 cards.
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12:30 The take was so good, we had to hear it twice.
Whew....I thought I had gone back in time while looking at this video and having Master Duels open at the same time when I was hearing this lol
I was so confused lmfao
Fucking thought I was having a stroke or being perfectly pranked
Ikr
Dude i thought i was hallucinating
I think gemini monsters should all have the effect when they’re normal summoned for the 3rd time to win the match
They'd still lose😂
and it would worded like, "If this card is normal summoned thrice, you win the match from your opponent's pity."
Still loses.
My favorite video series 😂
Chained summoning go brrr
12:30 The repeated take made me question if I finally got dementia from these takes
The take was so good it had to be put in twice. A truly masterful design choice
Everyone: floodgates bad
Also everyone: make super polymerization even more broken
As an avid user of the card, I certainly wouldn't complain.
Super polymerization is just 1+/neutral twin twister for monsters.
@@Veryfreshveryflourish24 unless your opponent is playing Dragon Link and you have a Five-Headed Dragon in your extra deck.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 then its just torrential tribute altho dragon link usually has 3-4 dragons max on field during combo lines and their endvoard rarely has 5 dragons.
@@Veryfreshveryflourish24you seriously compare my boss monster who I spent all my resources into to a set card ???
To the shifter hand trap guy.
During each standby phase you "shifter your pants".
Ritual cards are now extra deck cards
I Synchro Fusion a monster
that takes away their whole identity and just turns it into new ED mechanic - which makes it 100x more meta but it is literally just erasing the entire point of the mechanic
What about Nekroz? Drytron?
Let's be honest they should have that be the norm already
Yes that would be a shit load of errata, but I would prefer that instead of how it is now
what do we do to impcantations, just cry about it?
Everytime they say "hear me out" I begin to shake in fear
Hear me out. We remove side decks, but instead you open 5 packs and whatever you pull is your side deck that match.
I’d like a reverse crystal beast archetype, if they destroy an opponents card the destroyed card gets put into your opponent’s back row
Snake eye?
Bro also just described Vaylantz
Psychic Megacyber archetype when
that does exist in the anime, it's called Stormrider
They're called Vaylantz
I want the extra deck to get to 16, just so I can have exactly 4 of each summoning mechanic.
Is it just me, or did that Shifter idea clip play twice during this video?
Not just you
It did
Literally did, Farfa thought he was sneaky
You know a take is gonna be awful when they precede it with "okay hear me out".
The take so hot the editor stroked out after hearing it the first time.
I got a take: Both players should be allowed one full turn to set up a board without being interrupted by the opponent. I set up my board, you set up your board, and then on turn 3 is when both players are allowed to start using negates/interruptions
this would mean that people would start building stuffs that is battle phase heavy, and would change the meta and fundamental card designs tbh
Maybe an archetype, so like there’s a group of monsters that when on field, no interruptions can happen, but can only be on the field for so long and then gets banished or shuffled
be trap player, go first, set ur backrow. opponent going second: i activate lightning storm, any response ;P
@@nihildwo4874 what is it with farfa users being too dumb to read.
@@john-hannerfrankly for the better as currently the battle phase is frankly a formality on the turn you roll your opponent
I think you should be able to pick one of the millennium items and then gained its mystical powers for the duel
Farfa is here to remind us why Konami doesn’t listen to the community
The sponsorship for the big orc guy is impossible, the thing requires 7 days of login and it ends in 4 days
Good thing he (probably) made his bag, so no one has to give a shit anymore lmao.
Every time you want to activate a floodgate you should have write a sincere apology to the opponent and he needs to accept it. If he declines you can write another apology or choose to not activate the card. Consent is very important when it comes to floodgating each other!
We side DURING the duel. Each time your opponent plays a card you can look at your deck choose 1 card from it, put it into your sidedeck, choose 1 card from your side deck and show it to your opponent, then shuffle it into your main deck. This only happens when a card is placed on the field, not when an effect is activated. If multiple cards are played at once like a pendulum summon, you only choose 1 card like normal.
"You can discard this card: Pay 700 LP Negate all Spell Cards until the end of the turn"
Cold Wave is banned for a reason.
Only the real ones will remember the 70 seconds this video was named "The Yugioh community has the worst takes"
Edit: And apparently the REALLY real ones will remember the short time it was changed to "no" lol
Wait, what's it called now? I'm watching it with the OG title, don't wanna change off of it now lol
The Yu-Gi-Oh! Community Has The WORST Takes.
@@Howardaxnow it's "The Yu-Gi-Oh! Community Has The WORST Takes"
Wow, I left this for a minute before watching and find this comment after. Wonder why they changed the title. Looks fine to me.
@@Merilirembrand name probably
Okay, what if your Extra Deck size was determined by how many cards you have in your main deck? 40-49 cards; you get a 10 card Extra Deck. 50-59 gets you a 15 card Extra Deck, and a 60 card deck gets your a 20 card Extra Deck?
Now that's interesting
I think this would legit make 60 cards decks the strongest. I like
As a Dradon Link player, I see this is an absolute win!
Exactly what does this solve?
@@HumanoidCableDreadsmeans decks with bigger extra deck is less consistent but if you want more consistent deck you lose tech options in extra deck
All monsters should be treated as being flipped face-up if they're moved to a public information zone by a card effect. What this means is that if you set a Flip monster and it's destroyed or banished by your opponent, that flip effect will trigger. And yes, that does mean a Shaddoll monster will get a choice between its two effects if it's used as fusion material from the field.
buffing shaddolls ? im all in baby
Hedgehog ACTUALLY SEARCHING SPELLS THATS CRAZYYYY
Sign me up
Oh I actually like that attack backrow idea. Its like the idea to make flip monsters act like traps.
we can finally attack the moon
Finally mirror force can be relevant again
Waking the dragon baiting players to attack it tho 😂
@@azure1094 I feel like in this imaginary meta you probably wouldn't attack unknown facedown cards for this exact reason lol. You'd just hit face ups and especially floodgates. Worse the other face downs will do if you attack over them is activate, which they'd do when you attack them anyways
Or? Get this. Run backrow removal in your deck. I don't know why Yugioh players adamandly refuse to do this and then complain about spells/traps.
Farfa you should use those top 3 or top 5 takes among all of them to be implemented on db matches, like attacking backrow, unban broadbull, supol your opponent's backrow, or something. Would be a hillarious video idea
There's now a 1000 word limit per duel. Nirvana High Paladin? 1/4 of your word limit gone.
To be fair a Master duel Event with different Decksizes could be really interesting.
The Extra deck could the Unltimate alpowerful Toolbox while the maindeck needs to be picked very careful.
(mill strategies would need to be banned though)
Agido into kelbek is ftk lol
Outstanding dog Mary and marron would be meta
Excellent idea, I approve
@@edwiinandresmosqueramarulandaActivate Shifter.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 chain artifact lancea
I like the ability to attack backrow but on top of that u can also attack backrow if there is no monster in that column (excluding extra monster zones so column 2 and 4 aren't just better) ❤🍰
5:33 Funny thing is there's already a continuous spell that lets you do this, it's called Legacy of the Duelist. (not the game) It even has the added bonus of letting you skip a normal draw to return a monster from GY instead
Fan: "Extra & side decks to 40, main deck to 15."
Konami: "Write that down! Write that down!"
4:56 when I used to play dragonball CCG, I was watching PPG Events and apparently they did that, both players were shown each others decklist BEFORE the match, though that was only in top cut. I don't exactly hate it but I think there could be problems with that too 🤔
A take I would have Is like current Pokemon VGC where they have open team sheets(hate it fully here) and use that in YGO where you show your opponnts list that shows the main deck with out ratios and still can't see their extra or side deck.
My hot takes:
- The banlist should receive a major revision that creates conditional limits; e.g. Chaos Ruler is forbidden if you are playing a Tearlaments or Ishizu name in your deck, or you can play Chaos Ruler OR Block Dragon, but not together in a list
- There should be an independent forbidden and limited list for side decks; e.g. Evenly Matched can be played at 3 in your main deck list but is forbidden from being in your side deck list (but can still be sided out in a match)
- Players should be allowed to mulligan after drawing their opening hand as many times as they want before the duel begins, but must shuffle their entire hand back into the deck and they draw one less card every time they do
@farfa the pokemon ccg allows you to use the original print of professor oak in tournament, despite not having the 20 years of erratas the card "professors research" has gotten.
The Gate Guardian Fusion should have been a Monster negate, thrice per turn.
Right now, it sucks
When the first guy said 15 cards I had my soda spray out of my nose.
You should test some of these potential formats. Especially the 40 extra and 15 main deck.
And the Going second deck was probably one of the best events Master Duel has ever had. Was the closest thing to side decking we have and I really liked it, not all players abused it either by just building a going second deck full of crap gates and such. I think that’s the best way
Oh, worst takes? I gotchu homie:
_Maxx "X"_
Once per turn, during the Main Phase 1 of either player's turn: You can send this card from your hand to the Graveyard; this turn, each time your opponent Special Summons a monster(s), draw 3 cards, then banish 2 cards from your hand dace down. You can only use 1 "Maxx "X"" per turn.
I'd MUCH rather deal with this than Maxx C, because it would be a lot easier to deck out my opponent.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 aye, plus it incentivises the player to know when to actually play the card not just for a possible negation, but to also optimize how many cards you want to draw vs how many you banish based on your opponent plays and making a risk.
I have the best take:
We should be allowed to play with OCG printings. I want those 3€ staples
Based
I have a bad take.
Let’s print double type monsters, like if you have dinosaur fossil, you can make it a Rock / Dinosaur, so you can have synergies in both archetypes. You can expand the game so much.
Also double attributes could be fun
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Every deck that does not make top 64 at a event can play pot of greed at 3 in the next one.
At the end of each player's turn, both sides of the board are randomly subject to an effect. One side might get hit with an entire front and back row boardwipe, while the other side's entire graveyard is banished. Then the first player discards whatever they currently have in their hand. The next player loses 50% of their life points.
It is all at random and bypasses immunity and targeting.
On the forklift archetype, how cool would it be for like a monster to ‘lift’ another monster for a turn, like off the zone- like a forklift (maybe based on its attack, you know like a max-load) and then that means you can summon on a zone a monster technically occupies BUT if both monsters are still there they would crash and destroy themselves
Someone at my locals asked the question of "What if the going second player started with six cards? No, like, starts the duel with six cards. But, at the start of their turn, they also can't draw a card"
So like, 1 extra potential chance for a handtrap? I think that's all that functionally changes, right?
@@tinkerermelon6599 Pretty much what they were thinking.
The extra deck increases in size if you play more than 40 cards
I think hand traps should have a keyword: retaliation function, where the opponent has the ability to sacrifice to block the hand trap i.e. send a card from hand to graveyard, destroy a card on your field, etc…
See the way pendulum card have a gradiant going from effect monster color to spell color? We should do that for tuner ((normal-effect color to white synchro), gemini (normal color to effect) , handtrap and those trap monster but in reverse of hand trap (in both case, effect to pink and the reverse)
The mechanic from gwent where you can choose to put up to two cards back in the Deck to randomly draw two cards at ta start of the game. But maybe only for the going second player or instead of his initial draw or maybe as a mandatory condition for both players or whatever would be the Most balanced option. Would maybe help the more bricky but fun decks a bit more viable
Thats called a mulligan
3:30 and 13:00 are the exact same take.
cattos take being in there twice is really funny
God, master could actually get an ‘alchemy format’ equivalent huh. (A format of magic the gathering: arena where they errata cards up and down in power level, as well as add new cards with effects that wouldn’t work in paper, like the heartstone choose one of three thing)
That doesn’t seem like it’ll happen any time soon though.
Maxx “C” should be Insect Locked.
Instead of drawing a card from the deck, you draw an INSECT card.
(monster &/or a Spell/Trap that mentions “insect” or insect archetypes)
So it would work like "Heart of the Underdog" but insect and also counting support cards?
That really just limits the design options for insects then and I doubt Konami would then print actually good insect cards and ban the already good ones
What about adding another section in the ban/limit and add in something to like highlander where is one card only to all cards in this section you can only add up to like what 5-7 cards in this list and no more basically limit game wining cards anymore… that or winning player can’t side in card meaning you win game one you can’t side in game two but you can side in game three if you lose
Monsters on the field can only negate the activation of one spell, trap and monster effect each once per turn. No more negate boards and that means less need for huge blowouts.
Then a strict banlist for decks that don't rely on negates and rather different forms of Interruptions/floodgates (powerful ones Ursarctics are fine). Kashtira, HERO (y'all got three Floodgates), one of the Icejade cards that prevents monster effects and then all trap floodgates
@5:25 So you're saying I could literally attack the moon? I'm down
I thought the side deck after game 3 bit was gonna end with a suggestion to Farfa to play a deck other than BA
That Draw 4 add one was actually a good idea too, like 4 off the top, add them back reshuffle. I’d happily play with rules like that for me or my opponent 🤷♂️
Ok, in addition to being able to attack the backrow, Pendulum Monsters in the spell/trap zone retain their ATK stat and perform damage calc
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Tbh i would love a yogg sauron type event
On the topic of Errata'ing a physical card game, Cardfight Vanguard just released a set where they reprinted and errata'd like 50 powercrept cards to make them viable and allow for more deck variety in the current format and people love it. You can still play the old ones with the updated text, You just need people to not be completely braindead and read up on the current goings on of the game, its really not as hard as youd expect it to be.
Technically it's not different from how current erratas are applied. You can always play the old physical cards, but you have to apply their new text (you can play the original CED but you play it with its current restrictions).
The physicality of the game doesn't prevent any kind of modification like that. The only limit is the players' brain ability to erase the old texts from their memories and remember the new ones instead, I guess.
Vanguard also does situation specific bans to remove problems without punishing innocent people in the process the classic example being Jewel Knight Swordmy where it was incredibly powerful in Sanctuary Guard decks but needed but balanced in legion Jewel Knight decks so what do they do they just make it so it's not allowed in decks without all grade 3 jewel knights stopping the problem without hurting a innocent deck
@@michaelkeha Yes, Another thing i wish Yugioh did. Its current style of ban lists is too rigid.
@@MomijiHVods Off the top of my head Dracosack and Halq would have never been problems if they used this system
there should be an extra extra deck for only hand traps and you can draw one card from it before your opponent's turn
The only one that was kinda going somewhere was both players revealing their deck at the start of a match. Puts more emphasis on who’s the real better player.
@12:30 that clip freak me out as someone who just got done smoking a j 💀💀
ARCHETYPAL BOSS MONSTERS SHOULD GET WORTHWHILE BONUS EFFECTS BY BEING PLAYED IN THEIR RESPECTIVE THEME. (look at Galaxy Eyes Photon Lord & Vendreads) TO INCENTIVIZE PLAYERS TO PLAY THE DECK WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ENCOURAGING EXPERIMENTATION IN OTHER DECKS, AND NOT JUST PICKING THE BEST STUFF FROM AN ARCHETYPE WITHOUT THE DOWNSIDES. /Rant
People not going to play it
"If you summon Barrone De Fleur using only 'Fleur' monsters, you win the duel"
How about being able to syncro summon using materials from hand and field?
6:40 sounds like Shrimp from smiling friends
You are not having an aneurysm. The shifter take was twice
You put the floodgate hand trap clip twice
The funniest one I heard in an older version of this video was the 3 pend zones
Turn 1 and 2 the opponents can't interact with each other they build their fields and then go
Two different takes, zero elaboration:
1. Snake rain is singlehandedly keeping us from a decent reptile deck
2. We need more win conditions like True Exodia
Ban all floodgates (ofc) hand traps, board breakers and equalizers and turn those individual cards(except floodgates) into a game mechanic that both players can use mid match, like turning ash, imperm, drnm into "skills"
A hot take of mine would be implementing a mulligan rule for Yugioh in a tournament setting. You could draw a new starting hand only once per event. You could simply just ad it on the match slip if you used it. This would fix a lot of problems with brick hands. Just mo👍
Am I crazy or did they put the "flood gate shifter" bit in the video twice?
I unfortunately havent played cardboard since I was in grammar school but I do play master duel. I have a few suggestions that I think would help the game.
1- Make legends anthology a permanent mode remove casual mode. Causal mode is just a “free” ranked match these days. Play against meta for nothing 😂
2- I don’t think Maxx C should be banned it is a necessary evil with the way the game is these days BUT. I think it should be limited to 1
3) is just an overall thing. MORE CARDS SHOULD LOCK YOU INTO TYPE/ATTRIBUTE or Archetype for the rest of your summons once you committed to use that card. Like how some rokket cards lock you into dark etc. no way an all earth/rock deck should end on a board with baron. Apollousa, borreload savage dragon bullshit. Hell even branded locks you into fusion
4- BRING FUCKING RED EYES SUPPORT TO THE DAMN GAME. How the hell did blues get buffed twice and dark magician received a great anniversary buff, but red ass is a low C tier deck at best and Dark Dragoon is still banned while DPE terrorized master duel for like 5 seasons.
Give all Fusion decks that don't function off Contact Fusion a Shaddoll Fusion. Decks already go super minus with Poly, imagine if Fluffal could just Branded Fusion Kraken with a Sabres and Wings. Besides, if you look at how many Fusion decks already have a fuse-from-deck spell, the number is surprisingly high. Might as well round it off for the others!
Note: Tear's fusion mechanics are basically contact fusion from the GY, so they don't get a spell like this. Thundra also wouldn't
I have a great suggestion for master duel specifically
How about we get actually good cards from the tickets we get from the events instead of the legacy pack tickets, or those exclusive packs that somehow have an even worse card pool than the legacy packs?
Hot take: When you start building deck in MD/fill up the card list, you have to declare an archetype and you MUST put at least 30 cards from that archetype. This way people would have to decide which engines/staples you really need and it would allow archetypical cards to shine more. Currently in MD, everyone puts in 3x Ash Blossom, 3x Maxx C, 2-3 Imperms and 2 Called by the Grave, so that would devour your "wild card" spots if you wanted to play optimal 40 cards, so if you wanted to add, like, a Bystial or Kashtira engine, you would need to either sacrifice consistency or think if you really need these staples everyone put. Also, I would probably allow max 6 monster from outside the archetype in the Extra deck to cut down Abyss Dwellers, Bagooskas, Accesscode Talkers, Dharcs, Starving Venoms, Downerd/Zeus combo, White Woman etc.
Wait a Second...was the handtrap shifter Take in the Video twice? Or am i Hearing things
Buffing erratas in theory is a really good take lol. The only thing better than legacy support is buffing the original monsters which made the deck's fans wanna play the deck in the first place. It keeps the spirit of the deck and makes it better. How this would be done in a physical game is not my problem :)
It even has already been done to fix some problematic cards like Ultimate Tyranno, who got this mandatory attack everything effect tweaked, mainly to eliminate a bunch of loopholes, but with the extra benefit that you are no longer forced to crash it if your opponent has a stronger monster.
I wanna see effect veiler buffed so it's just a slightly worse imperm rather than a much worse one, so decks would have two interesting options to choose between rather than one just being objectively better. Like it's not even close, veiler is
- main phase only
- opponent's turn only
- unactivatable under macrocosmos
- can be negated by called by, appo
@@tcoren1 I mean I guess you're not wrong but I'd like them to buff archetypal cards first and then look at staples later
Forklift archetype should bounce cards in the same column, and the effect can only be negated by cards with forklift certification.
Attacking back row? Now that’s bringing in an ancient Duelist kingdom idea. Sorta
Thought I was going insane when I heard the exact same clip in this twice
What if floodgates become their own card type that you can only control one of and have a maximum of 3 in your deck? This would have to work in a specific way that cards can be multiple things at once. This way floodgates can be continuous and whatever this gets called.
There is only one way to fix going second,and that's allowing the going second player to play during the 1st turn of the game as if it's their own(normal summoning,setting cards etc.)
I thought I was having a fever dream when I heard the 2nd "Are you a branded player"
9:50 this dude just wants ygo to just have Companion, one of the most cracked keywords mtg's ever printed.
"Giant Soldier of Stone, attack that backrow!"
Dragunity just needs circular and it'd be tier 1. Level 4 winged beast dumps dragon tuner as cost, attaches it. When dragon is special summon add a dragunity spell trap (their counter trap) and then combo off from there as you have level 4 winged beast and level 2 dragon tuner. Plays decently into Maxx c cause you have a negate and you have another 3 starters in the deck
Could be a "beauty contest" format. Where you have a few mins to create a board or ftk. Then the judges would gave you numbers
i've been thinking if a Duel Links style banlist will work on Master Duel or paper
No burst summon revisions 😭
We should make all big tournaments pyramid style competition. After the first loss you enter the second pyramid contest to still win a prize. Also way way better prizes!!!
They should make yujo friendship but if your opponent gets chain link 5 you get to punch them
My ice cold take:
We should have all kinds of events experimenting with the great ideas generated by the community. Why is konami so afraid to get creative? At worst, the ideas turn out to be shit, and we had fun for a while, maybe stumbled upon a new format. At best, and very probably, we find legit ways to make the game more fun and interesting.
at the beginning of the duel the going second player declares a card in the deck and put it on top and it will be the draw for turn