Suzuki LTZ400 vs Honda 400ex (The Race Of The 400cc Quads)
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- I ride my 2004 Suzuki LTZ400 and Chuck rides my 1999 Honda 400ex as we race to see which machine is really faster. Who will win? #Honda, #Suzuki, #QuadRace,
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Do you sell quads or just fix them up.
You need sprockets on that Z400. Too small.
Ltz because I have smoked 400 ex with 440kits in them and still beat them and I’m on the stock bore
I'm picking the Zuki.
LtZ 500 2 stroke
Having owned both, I could have told you. If a z loses to an ex. There's definitely something wrong with the z.
top speed on a stock 400ex is 73 mph and it lost to the tecate 4 250 which top speed on it he did was 68. the 400ex is not running right if it’s losing to z400
@@ooossccar.7515 i have to agree and disagree the 400ex is geared shorter for more woods terrain and the ltz400 is geared longer giving it has a higher top speed but these facts are for stock quads so
I have owned both and currently a z400 turned into a 470 stroker but z all the way
@@parkerconrad7795 i have no clue tbh i thought 400ex was always faster because i’ve done top speed on both 400ex is faster and it beat the z400 everytime so idk what wrong with them lmao
Wrong lol
Him: *rips it on grass* grass is still perfect
Me: “just starts it in my yard* yards fucked 😂
It would be cool to see a garage tour
Yh do that
Yes ! That’s what we need, like man go in detail over the quads too
He allready did. But it would be cool if he could show all new bikes
He. Did
I think your z400 needs a new cdi box, shouldn't hit the limiter that quick.
Definitely a CDI o
I think he knows what he’s doing 😂
Never said he didn't, he does good work!... I don't have the videos he does but ive been wrenching on motorcycles and quads, cars, trucks a long time..
Most definitely shouldn't be hitting it that quick! Dynatek cdi will take care of that! That's what I have
@@TerrellSpivey I like using oem cdi,, some of the aftermarket are over rev limit.
The 400ex will outlive that Suzuki 10 times over and is a better bike all around.
To each his own. The LTZ has reverse. Liquid cooled. I had both bikes and the LTZ was a far better machine. But that’s just my opinion.
@@joshbannon8989 400ex is far better and I've had both machines and several hundred more. Ltz is known for snapping frames when they were raced and handle like shit on a track
@@mxbeanz1206 like I said that’s your opinion.
I've owned both bikes as well. I prefer simple and reliable. If everyone had the same opinion the world would be a really dull place.
The Honda might have a Wing, but it doesn't have a prayer
Iv had both the 400EX and a 400 LTZ the 400EX going up one sprocket tooth in the front will smoke an LTZ 400 the 400 LTZ is geard just a little taller than the 400EX from the factory other than that if they were both geared the same the 400EX has more horsepower and would win every time. You are wrong the LTZ is geared for higher speed you're not calculating or dividing your front sprocket with the rear sprocket the gear ratio on the 400EX is 2.85 the gear ratio on a 400 LTZ is 2.40 so the gear ratio on the LTZ is going to be faster just because of the gear combination if you were to switch them the 400EX would be the faster one. The 400 LTZ would not stand a chance against the raptor 660r no way in hell
U guys need to research some dynos of these bikes, the 400ex is an old school air cooled motor, vs the newer tech liquid cooled zuk 400.the ltz makes about 5-6hp more than a 400ex. Everyone knows this in the quad community. The ltz will win a drag race against a 400ex every time all else being equal and stock. Both are great bikes, the 400ex is more trail friendly and the ltz is a lil more track ready. Again this has been decided and proven like a decade ago. Anyone that still thinks a 400ex is a faster quad in any form just doesn't know, is ignorant or just a brand whore that can't except the facts lol
2vintage what’s the gearing on the z400 it sounds like it’s geared low is why it’s hitting the rev limiter so fast and the Kawasaki kfx400 is the same quad as the z400 and dvx400
That’s what I’m saying people in the comments are saying that it’s the cdi box
I had a 400 ex just identical to that one for like 8 years and that thing NEVER left me stranded on the trail!
If was hard to kill those air cooled honda's
Those things go for ever
Dude if I drifted in my parents yard I wouldn't be here right now 🤣
Ive owned a few 400ex and now own a kfx400 and the kfx is definitely faster but the 400 was more reliable.
Hondas made to last.
Figured the z would win. When you mod it, it's a beast! 14/40 is stock for the ltz 400. Definitely should try replacing the cdi box! Shouldn't be hitting the rev limiter that quick. I have a dynatek cdi on mines. Cool video
wath will be cool to wath is ltz 400 vs tecate 250 2 stroke because the tecate alredy win vs trx400ex
For anyone wondering artic cat and kawi bought the ltz400 from Suzuki and just put there own plastics on them and named them different
i understand small tires for moto or flat track but even then i always ran 23 in in the front n 22 in in the back but i did alot of woods riding and never do a garage tour you dont want everyone knowing what you have nd trying to steal your shit by taking inventory of what ya have
YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONGG
Same dude
The rev limiter really makes it not reach full rev which i think would have changed the race a lot
Yeah I agree
Hey little bro let’s go race quads 60 mph+ down our road in the rain on our Craigslist quads💀😂
Adrenalin junkie
Y not? And they weren't going 60
@@linkinpiatak6669 Idk I just know what it’s like to go down at speeds like that, one falls the other runs him over. Big ouch😂
Do it all the time
@@braptasticfilms3791 you have to be pretty bad to go down on a straight flat road on a quad
Definitely not normal for that to hit the rev limiter that fast
Change around your gear ratio on the ltz400, it should help with hitting the rev limiter too early.
It's not just the rev limiter, your shifting needs work
Plz don’t say ur first it’s annoying asf
Nobody did?
There’s is a bigger difference than just being air cooled. Ltz is stock 11:1 compression and ex is stock 9:1:1 if I remember correctly.
I think I might get myself a Honda however! Pretty impressed! Having a spare horse doesn't hurt ! 🙃🙂
A spare horse that literally won’t die no matter what you do* hahaha coming from me doing a 3 minute burnout fresh out of a trail riding sesh engine already hot asf Idk how it didn’t overheat lmao
To be honest if check the specs on the sprockets on the ltz . The previous owner may have changed them for the type of riding he was doing because it tops out way too quick. My brother had one and his wasn't like that at all. It stretched out more like the 400ex.
There's a big difference in the gearing between the sprockets between the two different quads
Wearing shorts in the rain while riding. I live on Washington state so I can relate. Never seen someone only grab the clutch when your ready to shift. I always keep my two fingers on.
I'd check to see what color your spark plug is if it's white you need to do some jetting but man it's sounds like shit
I have a 07' ltz 400 & my lil bro has a 12' 400 ex .. Suzuki is faster but honda handles better!!
Something wrong with that ltz, ive has 4, 2 ltz’s a kfx and a dvx, none of them hit the limiter like that.
personally, i like air cooled more than liquid cooled, its just less things to worry about, + i've never had a problem with over heating on a air cooled. And i've owned many different air cooled bikes and trikes.
Love both quads mid to top end Ltz it's faster but not by much the EX has more bottom end Great Video
My ltz 400 doesn't hit the revlimiter like that and especially that fast
Honestly mine goes pretty fast and can beat a 700 off first and 2 gear until 3rd
I was thinking the cdi is bad, almost like the reverse rev limit was coming on all the time…..just ain’t right
Having owned 3 ltz400s over the past 16 years; I can assure you that ltz400 is not running the stock gearing at all, maybe a 13T front sprocket probably, cause a stock 14T z400 is no gonna hit that rev limiter that fast! Also, you were racing all the way to 5th gear? Cause that looked like 4th gear 🤔🤔
Lets go Suzuki ltz400
Suzuki won
Fast or reliable give me reliable red for the WIN
Look up built from the bottom and do videos like him but with quads and dirtbikes
well that was a gimmie. But MY 2003 honda 450 would drop them both in a heartbeat. and handles and rides like the Ex.Easy nimble and MEAN...especially with the cam and high compression piston.
I mean it's a 450 so what ya expect
fix the jetting so it doesn’t hit the rev limiter quick then do the race again
The honda lost cause of the grass that was caught underneath without that you would of smoked him!!!
You guys should swap bikes on the second run's.
Looks like chuck should give you some riding lessons 😂
Right made me cringe when he was on limiter
He is ok at working g on stuff but he can't ride for shit. Never has.
You have to switch riders. To really make sure.
Bro the dude on the ex is better mans on the Z can’t shift
mannn stuff like this makes me wish i had a brother
Dvx, kfx, Ltz identical except plastic
Let her warm up a bit... Chuck: no efs given 😂
I think you and chuck owe yer pops some lawn work ... maybe overseed his lawn and aerate ... rent pull behind spreader and aerator and use quads...get a few hours of content as a bonus
This Suzuki 400 take a look at the CDI box it should have a flat head screw on it to adjust the rev limiter
You guys need to do some trail riding videos. Like the videos though keep it up :)
You need a rev box, this will help with the early rev limiter
hello, i got a gilera runner st125 scooter from 2008, i was speeding when i hit a bump and my speedometer stopped working, what can i do?
What handlebars are on the LTZ
It is a racing engine vs a trail engine cause the 400ex has a basic motor the ltz has a racing engine the 400ex did really hood
I have a 07 carb and 09 fuel injection z 400 and mine don’t hit rev limit that fast they must have changed the cogs and lowered the speed u need the plug and play over ride
I knew the ltz would win. I had a near new 1 back in the day, did some minor mods and it would smoke majority of the other machines I rode with.
Back in January I bought a brand new Foreman. My wife wanted to learn how to ride so I taught her how to ride on the foreman since it was a foot shift model. I sold my 450R Honda last week and shopping for something else. The slow trail riding we do as you know the 450 isn't really cut out for that we average around 20-25 mph at the most. I love sport bikes and was going to get another one that was better suited for trails I heard both of these are. Behind the being a little bit better on the trails? I'm not worried about topping speed as you can tell I am a Honda guy but that really doesn't make my decision which one would you buy if you're just doing slow trail riding? I don't want another utility since I got one of those already here for when I want to ride it. And it seems like the air-cooled motor would be easier to work on then a liquid cold any input you have is appreciate it
If you want a machine to take a beating deff 400ex but seems how your gonna be running it slow a lot id say ltz400 with some engine ice coolant
@@AaronGoneWild i mean i beat the shit out of my 04 z400, still has all original gaskets, not a bolt has been touched on the motor, no leaks, so id say very reliable
I had a 400ex with K&n Air filter and a slip on fmf pipe and it felt to me like the kfx400 i had that was stock was faster. couldnt race them side by side but now ill know
I feel sorry for the dad trying to maintain that yard.
Of course the Suzuki is faster its LQ cooled. Both machines need a aftermarket rev limiter box makes such a big difference. After riding my RM 125 my buddy wanted me to try is 400EX. I could barely ride it just kept hitting the rev limiter.
He eventually got exhaust jet kit and aftermarket rev box omg what a difference. I actually enjoyed riding it after that totally different machine.
The raptor is king of the sport quads. Then comes next……
Hell nah 😂
@@4pf339 raptor shits on any quad
Get some Trx 450r shocks for that 400 huge upgrade
Z400 kicks Honda ass everytime on equal playing field. The z400 is the ultimate light quad...only 3lbs less than ex but a stock z is crazy fast/geared for it's size. The ex is mehhhh....just normal mainstream stuff. In my experience of 50 plus years, it's the best bang for the buck ANY YEAR on quads.
To fix that rev limiter thing get a after market high reving cdi its what i did with my 300ex that hit it too quick
In my opinion I think the z400s are snappier and faster from the factory
Doesn’t it hit the rev limiter at the same exact rpm no matter what? Just gotta learn when to shift the bike
Your cdi controls the rpm setting and if it's bad then it'll limit early
LTZ stock is a Lot faster then my 2006 400ex. My neighbor has a LTZ and it feels like it has 50cc more then my 400ex no Way the Honda wins. Even you bike with its Mods win hang with LTZ
Wow the ltz obviously has issues with rev limiter cutting in early and it STILL reels in the 400ex lol. And the 400ex is geared taller so should have beat it in top speed but still couldnt lol. 400ex's are great with a few bolt ons to uncork them, great all around quad. The ltz is just a generation of development ahead of the ex.
What kind of
Bolt ons would improve the 400ex?
Why are you missing so many parts on that Suzuki 400 LTZ should have a key and reverse not a switch to kill it also what upgrades were done to it you sure it hasn't been bored out making it a 416 I know that pipe that's on there is not stock is it just a muffler or is it the whole exhaust these things make difference how fast it runs
Yeah 400 ex are just as fast until the top end and the Ltd. Walks the dog on the ex, the kfx 400 would hang right with the Ltz400, I thought when the kfx450 come out it would have been super fast on top end and it wasn't the kfx400 is just as fast on top end as the kfx 450
I would recommend the 400ex for racing it's not to slow😂
That kid never warm any motor up just rides ------- Just wait he will pushing many dead bikes and quads back to shop to get fixed
I have a 400ltz to
A 400ex with sim engine work an pipe will keep up with a stock z 400 an maybe beet it but 440 big bore will deff beat a stock z 400 but a z 400 with lil engine work will beat a strong running 400 ex even with a big bore
That ltz isn’t running right…that ex shouldn’t touch that thing.
the 400ex top speed is better and it hits top speed faster. that 400ex is old and has more miles on it
@@no-nh8ol that’s incorrect, I’ve had multiple of both quads in the time I’ve flipped them. The ltz hits a much higher top speed with stock to stock gearing, and it accelerates faster. Oh, and it handles much better. It’s overall a much better quad. I mean it is an air cooled sohc vs a dohc liquid cooled…not even a comparison.
@@dilloncollins7521 honda handles way better no doubt. and ive done top speed on 2 different 400ex the 2003 one hit 69 and the 2007 one hit 73 cause it was tuned and had a slip on and has other things done to it. the z400 top speed was 67 and handles horrible in the dirt
It's hard to predict when it's going to hit the rev limiter? It's all by sound. You should know that quad by sound the first time you hit the rev limiter
Ltz400 should be faster and its better than the Honda because it has reverse. Both are great for wheelies but the ltz400 shifts like butter and its very reliable. That ltz400 looks like it seen better days.
Joe I cannot believe your 27 smh
U have to shift
Try a different cdi on the Suzuki should help it rev higher
What's Chuck gonna do now that he's graduated. I'd buy either one. I live for speed. lol
I have a 07 ex and a 06 ltz and tell yall what the ex is way more fun and handles way better. The z is faster top speed but my ex is way faster off the line
Dude that's not you rev limiter that's sounds to me like a carb issue I worked on one of these before and it sounded nothing like that yours sounds pretty fuckin rough
Racing on asphalt with no gear?.atleast put on gloves boots and pants.or your gonna be making a road rash from hell video.i don't want to see it .
I had a yellow 04 z and a 99ex. Best thing is the reverse on the z and bigger seat. Ex wheelies better. Z is hard to wheelie with low gearing
My Z400 used to bust my boys 400ex we both had slip ons k&n filters spacers in the rear and maxis rear tires
Ltz is all bark no bite ngl I was racing an ltz 400 on a 1994 rm 125 with 100 psi on compression
Tip speed doesn't make one bike better than the other I'll ride my slow 400ex til I die honda reliability all the way ride red
Replace stator and see, wouldn't surprise me honestly. They were hell on stator in their hayday.
bike Life.?
great race! never sell the 400ex lol
I sold one 400ex a couple years ago, just bought another 2 days ago, she needs some work, but I already went overboard buying parts, pissed off the lady, but ehh, ill just go riding!
That poor fucking motor.. your not supposed to be hitting the rev limiter like that lmfao
Yo if you keep you hand on the clutch and shift before you hit the rev limiter like if you agree 💯
I have two z400…. Neither hits rev limiter like yours.
I hope you guys are joking lmao, I'm losing brain cells listening to you guys talk
When are yall going to race? Dude you jumped the start and claimed a win wtf?
Np way suzuki will smoke the Honda not at take off but from 2nd on forsure
What’s faster a tecate 4 , banshee or Ltz 400 , Kim sx 125 all stock
Is it breaking up or is that really the rev limiter? I had one and it never did that. 🤷♂️
Prolly breaking up. Most of his vids the bikes break up when he rides them.
Match the sprockets on both and I bet on the Honda.