The reason I've started watching this is because you are in the real world, these things happen and painting is hard. You've done a great job so far, keep at, you will get there and you learn by each set back. My mate is a professional painter and even he has issues with the paint sometimes, so it's not just you. We're all looking forward to seeing how you tackle it. Take it easy👍
Thank you JD, I appreciate your comments. This is certainly the real world and I have struggled more than I expected during this project so far, but I've also enjoyed each challenge and feel I've learnt loads from it. Hope my continued efforts don't dissapoint. Cheers Ryan
Hey Ryan, I'm fairly sure professionals won't be watching. I'm watching this because I'm seeing the mistakes and setbacks and also to share in your elation when things go well. Chin up and keep going.
That's a bad break Ryan. The consolation is some folks will step forward with an explanation and remedy. It's the good thing about an online community. Chin up.
Sorry Tom.. but if you are seeking to watch the correct way to paint a fuel tank, then I still suggest that other channels may be a better bet. Thanks Ryan. :)
Sorry for your set back Ryan but when this project is finished and your riding down the road you will be feeling so much better and it will have a shiny tank . You will overcome this set back , just think of the pile of bits you had and what you have achieved now. So chin up , read up and get up and let’s move forwards. Looking forward to seeing the tank is finished episode. 👍😊😊😊😊
keep going Ryan I have learned a lot watching. we all make mistakes that why they have rubbers on the end of pencils don't be disheartened go forward it's a learning curve you will learn for the next project
I think I would try and take it back to base coat then a 2k lacquer. Also making sure temperature is good. Also maybe use a tack cloth to insure a clean free surface. Make sure no silicone are near by
It's a pain when this happens . One piece of advice is , stay away from Halfords lacquer! Iv had so many issues with cracking , peeling etc in the past . Plus it's just so thin and offers hardly any protection against petrol . I cannot recommend pro xl2k clear highly enough . It's fantastic stuff and you won't have any reaction . It goes on thick and dries beautifully. Good luck 👍
Everyday is a learning day. Not sure what’s happened there. Just look at it as first go was a practice and now your gonna do a show quality job 👍👍👍👍👍👍 I remember doing my first tank on a 350lc did know about petrol proof lacquer then, it looked amazing the first time I took it out of the garage and went to fuel station to get petrol and by the time I got to mot station the paint was a mess. Your doing a good job mate
Thanks Chris, I was disappointing when it seemed to be going well for it to suddenly change. But that is a lesson I learn from. I'm going to rub it back and try again. So that should sort it.
Painting with aerosol cans is always tricky. A paint gun can be bought very cheaply and will give a professional finish using 2k paint. Obviously you'll need a small compressor, but they are an investment as you'll use it all the time for tyres, air gun, and air tools. It's important to have some warmth in the garage when painting too. If you don't mind spending a few quid on a gun and compressor then I would definitely recommend it. You shouldn't have to cut the clear coat back for a good finish...that's an option intended for when you've created an accidental blemish during painting. With a spray gun you should be able to prime it one day, then colour and clear it the next (clear usually goes on when colour is still slightly tacky)...this is when using 2k paint obviously.
Thank you Andrew for your clear suggestion. I agree I should have a compressor and proper tools. When I started last summer I had almost nothing and I'm building up slowly. Once I have a few quid spare, this is quickly climbing up my wish list. Ryan
Things like that happen all the time Ryan ,your not the only one that has things going wrong ,not a huge problem maybe the laquer dried to slowly,or maybe the cutting compound??is it 2K laquer?or it could be the black cellulose was still soft and the laquer dried harder thus cracking the surface , 🤔👍
Thanks Derek, it was not 2k lacquer and I suspect it was caused by either drying too slowly in cool damp garage or maybe the black was still not fully dried and caused an issue as it did,. I'm going to rub it back slowly and try again. It's all a learning curve for me.
Gutted for you Ryan. I’m following the project with interest while working on my own bike. There are highs and lows for sure but it will be worth it when you’re out on your first ride beaming with pride. Chin up fella. You’re working alone but we’re in this together 😉
Ohh, it is so disheartening when these things happen. 🥺 As others have mentioned: it is probably the two layers of different paint causing the reaction. Look at it on the bright side: better it happened now than later, at least you had not put in the decals yet. My suggestion is to not use clear coat at all, it reduces the complexity. I also recommend 2K paint, you can get these on cans with an actuator button underneath the can to inject the hardener into the paint. Even better is to use a paint gun, they are very inexpensive and it's just sooooo much better than spray cans. Of course, you need an air compressor as well - but that should be a mandatory tool in any garage, useful for all kind of work 😊
Hi KI, thank you. I know you are correct, I do strangely own a paint gun as I did previously have an old compressor, but I have never used it, and the compressor died sometime ago. So I guess I know what needs to go onto my birthday wish list. I'm not seen 2k cans for sell on the shelves anywhere, but if I need more paint I'll search online where I'm sure it must be available.
@@RyansGarageUK I think you need to go to a paint shop to find 2K spray cans, but if you already have a paint gun go for a air compressor. It is actually much easier to spray with a spray gun than a can ☺️
Don't be a defeatist ffs. Get your head down and get it done it's too easy to walk away and give up. Now pick your bottom lip up and get on with it.👍👍👍
I am enjoying your journey and you have done an excellent job so far and this is not your fault. You will achieve the look you want and I am sure everyone who watches your videos want you to succeed.
ive had this problem in the past and the paint seems hard and the weather gets cold and it cracks, i dont know why it happens but its a pain when it does, just keep going and youll get there, great work so far
Hi Neil, I'm not sure if this is a reaction, or that fact that I applied it too thickly and it's now just drying out. I honestly don't know but I'm going to rub it back and take it from there.
I suppose you've solved it now? You are rubbing the lacquer with compound surely you should do that on the paint layer then wash before the lacquer coat? You most probably thinned the lacquer layer too much then if the base layer was still shrinking it would cause the cracking perhaps leave it longer before applying the lacquer layer or dont cut it back.
Hi, thanks for your input. Whilst i never fully understand the cause, if you continue to watch the series you'll see i did ultimately obtain a finish I'm happy with.
WTF Ryan? I have no idea how that happened and in all the videos I've watched I've not seen that. Gutted for you and I could tell from the look on your face, you were too. I'm sure someone like Nat will be along soon to advise and you'll be back on track very soon. We are with you for the journey Ryan, the highs and lows, so chin up and I shall look forward to the next instalment as I always do.
Try and use a 2k lacquer looks like the lacquer has reacted some how 🤔. You might get away with just rubbing down the lacquer and relacquer in 2k .. and when all done use 2000 wet and dry and after that 3000 wet and dry hope this helps 👍
The reason I've started watching this is because you are in the real world, these things happen and painting is hard. You've done a great job so far, keep at, you will get there and you learn by each set back. My mate is a professional painter and even he has issues with the paint sometimes, so it's not just you. We're all looking forward to seeing how you tackle it. Take it easy👍
Thank you JD, I appreciate your comments. This is certainly the real world and I have struggled more than I expected during this project so far, but I've also enjoyed each challenge and feel I've learnt loads from it. Hope my continued efforts don't dissapoint. Cheers Ryan
Ryan, when you’re going through hell, keep going.
Thanks you Steven for you encouragement.
Hey Ryan, I'm fairly sure professionals won't be watching. I'm watching this because I'm seeing the mistakes and setbacks and also to share in your elation when things go well. Chin up and keep going.
Thank you Stuart. I'm sure your correct and I'm happy with my progress even of it is sometimes two steps forward then one step back. Cheers Ryan
That's a bad break Ryan. The consolation is some folks will step forward with an explanation and remedy. It's the good thing about an online community. Chin up.
Thank you. I agree this is a fantastic community with excellent suggestions.
Don't watch this this!
...the best way imaginable to ensure that we DO watch!
Sorry Tom.. but if you are seeking to watch the correct way to paint a fuel tank, then I still suggest that other channels may be a better bet. Thanks Ryan. :)
failure is the mother of success
Thanks Zippy. 😊
Don’t be too hard on yourself , you will get there with the grit and determination you’ve already shown I’m certain
Cheers Kwacker. I'm sure I will, just wish it was slightly easier.
Sorry for your set back Ryan but when this project is finished and your riding down the road you will be feeling so much better and it will have a shiny tank .
You will overcome this set back , just think of the pile of bits you had and what you have achieved now.
So chin up , read up and get up and let’s move forwards.
Looking forward to seeing the tank is finished episode. 👍😊😊😊😊
Thank you Jim Bo, I agree that I would have been happy to know I'd get this far when I started. Hope I can show you a finished bike sometime soon.
keep going Ryan I have learned a lot watching. we all make mistakes that why they have rubbers on the end of pencils don't be disheartened go forward it's a learning curve you will learn for the next project
Cheers Mal.
I think I would try and take it back to base coat then a 2k lacquer. Also making sure temperature is good. Also maybe use a tack cloth to insure a clean free surface. Make sure no silicone are near by
Thanks Chris, all excellent suggestions, If I need to apply more lacquer I will be sure try to source 2k this time.
It's a pain when this happens . One piece of advice is , stay away from Halfords lacquer! Iv had so many issues with cracking , peeling etc in the past . Plus it's just so thin and offers hardly any protection against petrol . I cannot recommend pro xl2k clear highly enough . It's fantastic stuff and you won't have any reaction . It goes on thick and dries beautifully. Good luck 👍
Thank you Joe, I think that's good advice.
Everyday is a learning day. Not sure what’s happened there. Just look at it as first go was a practice and now your gonna do a show quality job 👍👍👍👍👍👍 I remember doing my first tank on a 350lc did know about petrol proof lacquer then, it looked amazing the first time I took it out of the garage and went to fuel station to get petrol and by the time I got to mot station the paint was a mess. Your doing a good job mate
Thanks Chris, I was disappointing when it seemed to be going well for it to suddenly change. But that is a lesson I learn from. I'm going to rub it back and try again. So that should sort it.
Keep ya chin up mate you'll get there the fev rider
Thanks Peter. I hope so.
Don't be so hard on yourself Ryan. Keep at it. Projects always have a habit of throwing a curved ball.
Thanks Lawrence. I guess I should if expected something else to surprise me. But I'll win somehow.
Painting with aerosol cans is always tricky. A paint gun can be bought very cheaply and will give a professional finish using 2k paint. Obviously you'll need a small compressor, but they are an investment as you'll use it all the time for tyres, air gun, and air tools. It's important to have some warmth in the garage when painting too. If you don't mind spending a few quid on a gun and compressor then I would definitely recommend it. You shouldn't have to cut the clear coat back for a good finish...that's an option intended for when you've created an accidental blemish during painting. With a spray gun you should be able to prime it one day, then colour and clear it the next (clear usually goes on when colour is still slightly tacky)...this is when using 2k paint obviously.
Thank you Andrew for your clear suggestion. I agree I should have a compressor and proper tools. When I started last summer I had almost nothing and I'm building up slowly. Once I have a few quid spare, this is quickly climbing up my wish list. Ryan
Things like that happen all the time Ryan ,your not the only one that has things going wrong ,not a huge problem maybe the laquer dried to slowly,or maybe the cutting compound??is it 2K laquer?or it could be the black cellulose was still soft and the laquer dried harder thus cracking the surface , 🤔👍
Thanks Derek, it was not 2k lacquer and I suspect it was caused by either drying too slowly in cool damp garage or maybe the black was still not fully dried and caused an issue as it did,. I'm going to rub it back slowly and try again. It's all a learning curve for me.
@@RyansGarageUK that sounds like a good idea Ryan ,it's all a bit confusing with cellulose, 1k and 2k ,amazing what you can find out on Google 👍
Looking good mate
Thanks Robert. I agree in some areas now I just need to sort this damm tank paintwork.
Gutted for you Ryan. I’m following the project with interest while working on my own bike. There are highs and lows for sure but it will be worth it when you’re out on your first ride beaming with pride. Chin up fella. You’re working alone but we’re in this together 😉
Cheers Peter. I appreciate your support and I'm hoping that beaming grin takes place soon.
Ohh, it is so disheartening when these things happen. 🥺 As others have mentioned: it is probably the two layers of different paint causing the reaction. Look at it on the bright side: better it happened now than later, at least you had not put in the decals yet. My suggestion is to not use clear coat at all, it reduces the complexity. I also recommend 2K paint, you can get these on cans with an actuator button underneath the can to inject the hardener into the paint. Even better is to use a paint gun, they are very inexpensive and it's just sooooo much better than spray cans. Of course, you need an air compressor as well - but that should be a mandatory tool in any garage, useful for all kind of work 😊
Hi KI, thank you. I know you are correct, I do strangely own a paint gun as I did previously have an old compressor, but I have never used it, and the compressor died sometime ago. So I guess I know what needs to go onto my birthday wish list. I'm not seen 2k cans for sell on the shelves anywhere, but if I need more paint I'll search online where I'm sure it must be available.
@@RyansGarageUK I think you need to go to a paint shop to find 2K spray cans, but if you already have a paint gun go for a air compressor. It is actually much easier to spray with a spray gun than a can ☺️
Don't be a defeatist ffs. Get your head down and get it done it's too easy to walk away and give up. Now pick your bottom lip up and get on with it.👍👍👍
Cheers Andy, that's exactly what I need to be told sometimes. Now where is my sander??
Keep having a go
Thanks for your encouragement, I promise I will.
I am enjoying your journey and you have done an excellent job so far and this is not your fault. You will achieve the look you want and I am sure everyone who watches your videos want you to succeed.
Thank you Robert. I appreciate your support, and all the comments have been wonderfully helpful.
ive had this problem in the past and the paint seems hard and the weather gets cold and it cracks, i dont know why it happens but its a pain when it does, just keep going and youll get there, great work so far
Cheers Pete, I hope its alright on my next attempt. I may try to allow it to dry inside next time. ( please dont tell my wife... )
I'm out of here Ryan! kidding, gutted for you.
Thanks Alan. Hope I can produce a more successful video for you next week.
I've had the same happen loads of time it's the lacquer that's reacting to the paint drives me crazy each time it happens.
Hi Neil, I'm not sure if this is a reaction, or that fact that I applied it too thickly and it's now just drying out. I honestly don't know but I'm going to rub it back and take it from there.
That’s really bad luck.
Thanks Martin. Please wish me better luck for my next attempt.
I suppose you've solved it now? You are rubbing the lacquer with compound surely you should do that on the paint layer then wash before the lacquer coat? You most probably thinned the lacquer layer too much then if the base layer was still shrinking it would cause the cracking perhaps leave it longer before applying the lacquer layer or dont cut it back.
Hi, thanks for your input. Whilst i never fully understand the cause, if you continue to watch the series you'll see i did ultimately obtain a finish I'm happy with.
WTF Ryan? I have no idea how that happened and in all the videos I've watched I've not seen that. Gutted for you and I could tell from the look on your face, you were too. I'm sure someone like Nat will be along soon to advise and you'll be back on track very soon. We are with you for the journey Ryan, the highs and lows, so chin up and I shall look forward to the next instalment as I always do.
Thank you Tim, It felt like a kick in the nuts on Sunday, but I'm planning how to sort it out (hopefully). Ryan
don't be so hard on your self your doing well dude
Thanks Jimi, appreciate that.
I have not seen that exact problem before but have had cracking. It's a pisser but can we not advise to rub down and go again.
Pro XL 2k clear is bloody good stuff though!
Cheers Nat, Others have suggested the same. So if I do need to re-lacquer (which is looking likely) I'll see where I can buy it from.
@@RyansGarageUK once you lose faith in a product you rarely use it again!
Try and use a 2k lacquer looks like the lacquer has reacted some how 🤔. You might get away with just rubbing down the lacquer and relacquer in 2k .. and when all done use 2000 wet and dry and after that 3000 wet and dry hope this helps 👍
Cheers Davie, I'll look into getting 2k lacquer if I need more. I had only previously gone up to 2500 but again thanks, I'll look out for that also.
Check out Tony's refinishing great source of info on paint 👍 gutted your clear reacted 😭
Cheers Dean. I will check that channel.
Hmmm....
Mmmmm indeed !
Could think about doing a bit of research on TH-cam before you do stuff,just a thought 🤔 👍
Absolutely correct, and I do try but sometimes even following TH-cam videos doesn't guarantee success.