The Situation of Handtraps in this "New" Format | Tierlist & Discussion

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  • @paul_ej_dev
    @paul_ej_dev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    > Records Tier List Wednesday
    > Tries to cover it up as Tier List Thursday
    > Releases on Friday
    Someone stop this man!

    • @JoshuaSchmidtYGO
      @JoshuaSchmidtYGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I am a rebel

    • @paul_ej_dev
      @paul_ej_dev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JoshuaSchmidtYGO if you left it until tomorrow to reply, I’d have slow-clapped you

    • @Saltymoles
      @Saltymoles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaha

  • @tadde98
    @tadde98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Joshua: "i don't need to told you have to put 3 orange light in your tear deck''
    Konami: "we don't do that here"

  • @Eren-mf8tc
    @Eren-mf8tc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Tierlist friday works just as fine I guess

    • @bruis1527
      @bruis1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tearlist

  • @winter945
    @winter945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One thing I will say ghost belle has going for it over skull meister is against opponent's bystials, as it is a way to stop them from banishing your cards and allows you to get effects off you otherwise wouldn't

    • @DigiTism
      @DigiTism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every TH-camr that does hand trap lists are always sleeping on Belle. I don’t understand it. It’s decent. Hit Called By, Bystials, GY shenanigans. If you have the room, I’d play it (which I do).

    • @Seekuhification
      @Seekuhification 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DigiTism Let's also not ignore the fact that it stops Elf in Spright, as well as Albion and lubellion in branded, Potentially can stop a Stri from a floo player and that Belle negates the activation, meaning she can be dropped during damage step, which Ash and Meister can't. And she can stop Iblee from even hitting your field.

  • @Maayan6351
    @Maayan6351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ever since Euros I've been following you and I have to say I really appreciate you as a player. It's not often to see a player so talented yet so humble and down to earth. Hope to see you in the next main event or in this year's Euros 😁.

  • @hannessteffenhagen61
    @hannessteffenhagen61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ash/Mourner/Belle are all also just decent in Kashtira just cause they're level 3 tuners, and there just happen to be a number of level 10 synchros that are really good in the deck.
    Ash doesn't feel great vs. tear, but ashing a havnis (or a normal summon merrli if they brick) can often be enough to win you a game.

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew Winter Cherries was more than playable !

  • @smsamurai93
    @smsamurai93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not really a generic handtrap everyone can use, but I've been running a single copy of Sauravis in my Libromancer deck to search off Magnamhut to protect from Fenrir/Imperm/Druiswurm/Dragostapelia and it works REALLY well

  • @zjweele13
    @zjweele13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Droll is getting a boost next week when Dark World comes out

  • @justinmartin1052
    @justinmartin1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are the goat I love watching your videos. There’s never any arrogance to your air and you are always very fair about everything. Hopefully I get to meet you and play you in the finals someday.

  • @hallyuniverse
    @hallyuniverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Belle is better than Skull Meister in the sense that it can protect your GY resources from Bystials/Crow/Ishizu cards while also still stopping Tear and Spright.

  • @Salati00
    @Salati00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think you're overlooking one use of Belle in my opinion: you can protect your own stuff (i.e. branded banishment/in red) if they activate something to mess with it

    • @villeneuvesamuel7088
      @villeneuvesamuel7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I wqs going to say the same... and it also protects your graveyard from opposing bystials: they get it next turn but at least you can resolve the fusion unhindered.

    • @arobnugzo6818
      @arobnugzo6818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is kinda mandatory if you're dumb enough to play Drytron this format...which I am, fml.

    • @malsawmzela609
      @malsawmzela609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, as a Live twin player, called by absolutely destroys me, so belle is really strong for me.

  • @jonathanchamba3516
    @jonathanchamba3516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta love when this video drops in the middle of deck building!

  • @ImJustLikeHerFr
    @ImJustLikeHerFr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kinda like belle in ishizu tear if you can find room, because it can stop bystials, and the ishizu shuffles.

  • @basuka93
    @basuka93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Joshua! I really enjoy your videos, also I find them very helpful as a casual player to try and get better. I’d like to kindly make a suggestion for another video: could you see yourself making a „how to build a deck+ side“ ? I know I’m asking for a lot but I believe you could make this an amazing video giving a lot of information and help to many players :)
    Anyways… thanks for the amazing content!

  • @rokmare
    @rokmare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found that hand traps that negates is better than those that don’t because sometimes the effects are more powerful than simply destroying/ exile the monster itself

  • @pamoon_
    @pamoon_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a few super rogue decks that could run Shifter, like Cubics
    I ran a set that could clear the GY out and then play Shifter before I end my turn, then OTK my next turn

  • @jumpiestaman100
    @jumpiestaman100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've also been looking at Contact "C". Really has a unique effect that has potential, but figuring out how to viably play it is rough. This is a card you'd run one of, and one that you want in starting hand, because any later and it's probably too late, since Ishizu Tearlements will have their full board like Turn 1.
    But definitely a unique card I've been trying out in different decks (in a mirror, probably not something you'd want to run compared to a lot of other handtraps).

  • @villeneuvesamuel7088
    @villeneuvesamuel7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aside from what has been said on belle: protecting your graveyard from being hit by bystials, stopping called by the grave, I'll add that it negates tear's fusions and the ishizu package. Maybe more importantly, contrarily to skull meister, dd crow and the bystials which are completely dead vs floowandereeze, belle, while not stellar is decent enough if you lack space in your side deck as it heavily punishes a map/gold sarc opening by denying robina's recovery from the banished zone.

  • @beardlong8235
    @beardlong8235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a video on how to beat tearlaments with generic cards like hand traps and board breaker but specifically mentions at which point of the combo we use each one. I think it will be very beneficial for your audience! An example can be let's say I play a random deck and i start with my combo they chain havnis and they start their insane plays on my turn what and when should I do? Thanks in advance! Stay safe, legend!

  • @CommonFolkYugioh
    @CommonFolkYugioh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Iris Swordsoul, Astrograph, and Typhoon

  • @99099
    @99099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what do you think of green light in tear? Heard some discussions on it, though personally I wouldn't run it.

    • @JoshuaSchmidtYGO
      @JoshuaSchmidtYGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I dont think there are enough Spells in Ishizu Tear to justify the card in the Main

    • @99099
      @99099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshuaSchmidtYGO makes sense, only real targets to hit are perlereino and instant fusion, although hitting those is very impactful. Definitely playable in the side deck though, maybe to deal with dimension fissure, though I don't see how it's better than mst in that case. Probs just a blowout to rouge then.

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshuaSchmidtYGO Would you consider it in the side? It sounds pretty decent against flunder 🤔

  • @frogtopia8624
    @frogtopia8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tierlist Tuesday!!

  • @Slaymog
    @Slaymog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Joshua, do you have a video or something where you talk about the bystial cards (which ones to use, ratios etc.) in branded despia? I’m just starting to build a branded despia deck and struggle to decide which cards/ratios are good 😅 In that context I’d also really be interested in your take on the upcoming branded/bystial support in Photon Hypernova 😬

  • @gost497
    @gost497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    uploads Tierlist Tuesday on a friday

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The banlist hit him so hard that he forgot to upload the video. lol

  • @undercover1394
    @undercover1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is heavenly zephyr-miradora good? It should work vs kit, and if paired with a bystial even better. Is also good if spright player goes into sprind and uses sprind to make gigantic, drop on summon. I'm thinking it should be good in conjunction with other bystial in dragon related decks.

  • @greenhillmario
    @greenhillmario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously I think bystials are insane just like everyone else, however if you’re playing a casual deck and want to go down to locals, if it’s a chaos type deck try a chaos space engine with a full bystial package with lubellion and continuous. Bystial is a fun strategy and the more you can use them as not just disruptive handtraps the better they become. I’m playing them in evil twins and you can definitely score some full matches against ishizu tear if you play well

    • @Jarjarfunk
      @Jarjarfunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya it's good as hell at locals. I've been playing ritual beasts with d shifter and soul drain since my locals doesn't have answers to that outside backrow removal. Then game 2 and 3 when they side it in I swap out soul drain for ash

  • @queenbrightwingthe3890
    @queenbrightwingthe3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Handtrap should be limited to only 1/deck for each card. No reason why you should run with 3x of every handtrap this game got just to win.

  • @Darkmun21-Chapter21
    @Darkmun21-Chapter21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make going second tier list next? Also, do you recomend using bystial even tho i cant use then on my own monsters? Like for exp Marincess, cant use bystial on then, they are all water. (Edit, i used floonder as last exp but it wasnt the best one so i switched with marincess instead)

    • @greenhillmario
      @greenhillmario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’re trying to resolve your trap then you aren’t using bystials at any point in the game anyways. You need to see if your deck can even play those cards without restriction

    • @hannessteffenhagen61
      @hannessteffenhagen61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering most of the Floowandereeze cards lock you out of special summoning the Bystials are _extremely_ mediocre in Floowandereeze. They're not _always_ dead, but often enough that I doubt they're worth playing. Just play crow instead, for the most part that does the same thing for you and you can actually activate it.
      Not being able to banish your own stuff with Bystials doesn't matter _that_ much because if you're splashing them you mostly want to use them as GY interruption anyway. Of course in a pinch you can always use them as extenders or beat sticks, but if you're not actually playing a branded engine or trying to go into rank 6's that's not why you're putting them into the deck.

  • @daxonion
    @daxonion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my lousy ass played chaos hunter in my ishizu tear deck at locals just so i can discard more kelbeks/agidos
    ended up not activating it a single time xD

  • @Bravco509
    @Bravco509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very good explanation, thanks champ!

  • @cantrip7
    @cantrip7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this video in my recommendeds. It'd be nice to have the cards (or a wiki screencap of their stats & effect text) show up on-screen when mentioned for the first time. Also, I found some of the editing choices disorienting, like zooming in and out of your face in unremarkable parts of a sentence. Not sure if those were live flubs, intentional from the recording, or done in post, but it's off-putting.

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TEIRlist is best at Friday!

  • @Stylercom113
    @Stylercom113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Handtraps coming back in February tough

  • @gabrielroberts2307
    @gabrielroberts2307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is droll and lock Medicore? Does it not hurt every deckalmost in some way

    • @zomenis
      @zomenis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesn't hurt tear, and tear is the best deck

  • @BlueSkyYGO
    @BlueSkyYGO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not bad Tier List
    Remember to post your videos to your community tab also...

  • @fakename2890
    @fakename2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any advice for making Ancient Warriors playable?

  • @inciaradible7144
    @inciaradible7144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget: Tomorrow is Satellarknight Saturday!

  • @Reignbeaux55
    @Reignbeaux55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no smart comment because this format is very straight forward but dark world is still the best deck

  • @SharkdYGO
    @SharkdYGO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tierlist on any day is good

  • @dominicmallano5633
    @dominicmallano5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of wattkinetic puppeteer to move spright elf to the other extra deck zone?

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wattkinetic Puppeteer can't do that... It can only move to Main Monster Zones. Even if it could move to an Extra Monster Zone, it would still be bad

  • @readytogetricked1767
    @readytogetricked1767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need that spright bystial deck showcase 🙂

  • @NeyoGaming11
    @NeyoGaming11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this as I build my side deck

  • @DrAhumada15
    @DrAhumada15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of Green Light as a replacement for Orange Light in Ishizu?

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's ok for negating DiFi, but unnecessary and arguably bricky otherwise

  • @ItsReallyColdOutside
    @ItsReallyColdOutside 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been witing for this!
    Btw, what do you think of Ghoti? The deck might be tier 3 just because it can run shifter

    • @JoshuaSchmidtYGO
      @JoshuaSchmidtYGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I havent tried Ghoti at all yet simply because it felt so underwhelming in theory, but if its a solid Shifter deck then maybe it can be decent at Local/Regional level, I might give it a try someday!

    • @hannessteffenhagen61
      @hannessteffenhagen61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The issue with Ghoti is that in the deck you need to banish cards at specific times, and some cards need you to banish cards from the GY. So yes, you _can_ technically run shifter in the deck but it's not good for you, whereas we have several decks in the meta right now that either just don't care about shifter at all or benefit from their cards getting banished.

    • @lancerguy3667
      @lancerguy3667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghoti is by far the weakest of the shifter-main, “your turn? I think you mean ‘our’ turn!” strategies, and needs a pretty strong hand to have the highest ceiling. Lotta fun to play, though.

    • @jordantf2051
      @jordantf2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! Do you have a platform you coach on?

  • @jordantf2051
    @jordantf2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Do you coach individuals?

  • @andrewmb8676
    @andrewmb8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With how many bystials you play, does imperm sometimes become a dead card in hand?

    • @JoshuaSchmidtYGO
      @JoshuaSchmidtYGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you need to use it first so it loses some flexibility but shouldnt be dead

  • @ATM_Elly
    @ATM_Elly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    D.D. Crow is better than bystials in SOME rogue decks or matchups for example:
    It's better in lyrulisc/floo bc they can search it
    And its better than bystials in decks that have monsters that have such effects "if you control no monsters, you can special summon this card" And in decks that lock you into summoning one type/attribute
    And generally if you play against someone that doesn't run light/dark monsters then bystials are pretty much a brick
    However in most cases(at the current format at least) bystials are better
    & Btw you can use belle to protect your monsters from bystials
    Also if bystial baldrake comes out..where would you rank it?

  • @thezestylime0989
    @thezestylime0989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think dd crow at the local level is better than bystials. there is a fluffal player (if you read this you know who you are) at my locals who is the bane of my existance. bystials only hit the frightfurs and those get their effects immediately. crow can banish the toy vendor so they cant loop it.

  • @80assist
    @80assist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about green light (negate spell)?

  • @deadlineuniverse3189
    @deadlineuniverse3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually play Savonir in tear ishizu and I actually trigger it’s effect

    • @OsirusHandle
      @OsirusHandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you play lubellion and beast+regained? doesnt make sense otherwise, what are you gonna send

    • @deadlineuniverse3189
      @deadlineuniverse3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OsirusHandle Branded on high spirits.
      Either I draw it first 5 or I don’t wanna see it within my top decks or tear mills

    • @FilthyWeeb27
      @FilthyWeeb27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is still a big beater that is a dd crow for lights and darks. You can also use it to chainblock and deckthin by dumping druidwurm or magnahmut

  • @galthram6099
    @galthram6099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a floodgate tier list

  • @bobjoe2955
    @bobjoe2955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Battle fader: am I a joke to you?

  • @rex2g4
    @rex2g4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: Picking up the phone to inform the authorities.

  • @elias5304
    @elias5304 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No fenrir?

  • @SoulWolfi
    @SoulWolfi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughts on Gorz? To counter the burn damage and equal the damage on both Players Side? Personally I would put it in Mediocre or unplayable, since it needs an empty board and does nothing against effects that heals the opponent

  • @8BitDuelist
    @8BitDuelist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel d.link is a good deck right now

  • @Kirk-36Moshpit
    @Kirk-36Moshpit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel your pain on Phantazmay - I've been looking for an excuse to play it for a while. I thought maybe Spright, Live Twins, and Iblee in Tear would be that excuse, but it was pretty much always a dead draw. Hate it here

  • @floydtaylor3228
    @floydtaylor3228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How best to fight floownders?

    • @JoshuaSchmidtYGO
      @JoshuaSchmidtYGO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Effect Veiler and Infinite Impermanence are the best handtraps against them that are also good overall

  • @storm_king29
    @storm_king29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this!

  • @OsirusHandle
    @OsirusHandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so miserable playing magnamhut when the tear player makes dharc and steals it.
    Also a downside to Cherries is kit can be recycled with cryme, youd have to get kinda lucky though.

  • @deruneldembal5048
    @deruneldembal5048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro joshua hat zwar nichts mit video zu tun, aber man sieht dass deine hairline zurückgeht. Ich kann dir nur rosmarin öl empfehlen. Falls du länger deine haare behalten willst und so. Kann auch sein dass es nur so aussieht für mich mit deinen haaren
    Ich küss dein herz

  • @ErinMT2
    @ErinMT2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any thoughts on Kurikara? Or still not this format?

  • @Kirk-36Moshpit
    @Kirk-36Moshpit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on Heavenly Zephyr - Miradora? It's an unnegatable Imperm against Kitkalos and other important things as well as a free Level 7 monster, so maybe pairing it with a grave hand trap could work out?

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not an imperm, miradora prevents the opponent from activating the eff of the monster, so the on summon effects are still going to happen since it happens in the same chain as the eff of mira.
      So you only prevent the on field effs from activating which isn't that great.

    • @Kirk-36Moshpit
      @Kirk-36Moshpit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bl00by_ Wouldn't it work as follows: Kitkalos gets summoned, Miradora responds by Summoning itself and that's the first Chain, then both their "if" effects activate on a second Chain, or am I mistaken?

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kirk-36Moshpit The on summon eff and miradoras summon eff happen at the same time since both trigger on summon.

    • @Kirk-36Moshpit
      @Kirk-36Moshpit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bl00by_ And then only Miradora's effect would go on a separate Chain? I understand. I'm still not sure that's right, but the reasoning seems solid.

    • @jimmayorga1863
      @jimmayorga1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kirk-36Moshpit kit gets summon, chain link 1 Kit, chain link 2 Miradora, Miradora will only prevent Kit's effect to target itself to special summon.

  • @bloodysorcerer
    @bloodysorcerer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are the last 3 cards

    • @sfritts10
      @sfritts10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bystial Magnamhut, Bystial Druiswurm, Bystial Saronir

  • @nonamlike
    @nonamlike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the zoom into the full facecam?
    I think it’s better to see the Tierlist all the time while you talk

    • @ErinMT2
      @ErinMT2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Comedic effect, to emphasize some points and increase your attention with sudden changes

  • @alep7358
    @alep7358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how viable is a deck thats 40 cards of only hand traps

  • @luminous3558
    @luminous3558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tear List Friday but you don't show a Tear List....

  • @JoseRodriguez-yz2dq
    @JoseRodriguez-yz2dq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think u missed kurikara

  • @Ryuka98
    @Ryuka98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay Tiersday

  • @marks3684
    @marks3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the best handtrap in the entire game: Kuriboh.

  • @afrodarkwaver
    @afrodarkwaver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tierlaments

  • @BlueHeartZA
    @BlueHeartZA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Board breaker tier list next?

  • @davidmcintosh2054
    @davidmcintosh2054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ftier list Friday 😊

  • @ozunivrse9041
    @ozunivrse9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro anybody that says Nibiru isnt good is clearly a noob, and must play into it too much

  • @katzenjunge5869
    @katzenjunge5869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro...scam over scam. Wednesday, Thursday or Friday, nothing is real anymore :/

  • @JADGERBOMBS
    @JADGERBOMBS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Le me a Psyframe player*
    Hmmm

  • @eyal28282
    @eyal28282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tearlist*

  • @dannysreview2814
    @dannysreview2814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came, I saw, I liked, I left. Laterz Joshua.

  • @alexhorrorgames6720
    @alexhorrorgames6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Medíocre 🤦🤦🤦 , waiting a vídeo for tier list decks the New Format now