2023 BMW R 1250 RS | Buy This Not The GS!!
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- Im out in sunny Spain once more riding more fantastic BMW motorcycles! This time I'm riding the BMW R 1250 RS a bike I rode back in 2019. The RS is such a brilliant bike should 80% of GS riders really be buying these instead??
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The reason people prefer adventure bikes over sports tourers is that there is better wind/weather protection, more leg room, much comfier, more pillion room, they handle our crap road surfaces better and you can ride stood up to stretch your legs. It's not all about if you go off road or not. Modern Adv bikes handle so well, so the average rider (like myself) can probably go as fast as they would on a sports tourer. I've always liked sports tourers and decided to trade in my GS for a KTM 1290 superduke GT for the same reasons you mentioned in the vid. After 1.5 years I've traded the GT in for a KTM Super Adventure S because I've come to the conclusion that there is no better all round, do it all bike than an adventure bike.
It's getting a bit boring with some youtubers telling adventure bike riders that they don't use it for what its intended, or they have bought the wrong bike. Give people some credit for knowing what they want from a bike.
If someone had told me I should skip my adventure bike time and go straight to the RS I could have saved money. The RS fits me better and when I did take my GS on forestry roads, there was dust everywhere, it was heavy as hell and I was too focussed on riding, standing, technique etc. It was not relaxing and peaceful. That's what my mountain bike is for. I totally hear you about the weather protection, comfort for taller folk - the RS definitely is smaller but for me, it's utterly perfect and so much prettier.
"they handle our crap road surfaces better" - ding ding
I routinely stand up on the pegs on my RS to occasionally relieve my left knee. Got a 300 mile ride planned for this Friday. Saturday will ride to the Concrete Fly-in. The RS is totally where it's at!
Which handles better, the RS or the GS?
@@holdencaulfied7492The RS, by a mile. Had both.
I and my R1250RS agree. For me, no better bike exists, and having owned a K1200RS and a R1100RS prior to this, possibly no better line of bikes. So pleased to see it getting some overdue attention.
An engine with a century of refinement on a platform with its own 40 year history. She's a big girl but after you get beyond that, a tremendous all rounder that loves high speed sweepers.
The massive torque of the 1250 Shiftcam is just a cherry on top. Total joy to ride.
I own a 2002 K1200rs and absolutely love it.
I am curious- how does the 20 year old K bike feel compared to the newer R1250RS? Is there anything you like about the K bike more?
@@LucasMuniz294 I had a new 2004 K1200GT, (last of the K1200RSs with some bits added), great bike but not a patch on the 1250RS which is a much more refined bike.
@@LucasMuniz294 Engine:
The R is 98 lbs lighter, with 6 more HP, 19 more ft-lbs of torque, and 11 MPG better gas mileage. The torque/weight difference means it can bolt away from a stop like a beast and enjoys lighter and more nimble handling at low speeds. It's geared differently though and while it pulls well into 110s and low 120s it hits a wall around 130 MPH and quickly loses steam. Power delivery gets buzzy at high RPM on the R where it doesn't on the K. R is more fun within legal speed limits, K is more fun outside of them. With an aftermarket exhaust I feel the R sounds better; K always sounded like an angry sewing machine to me.
Fueling is superior -- you can put it in any gear and let RPMs go down to idle and it'll happily chug along even up a gradient and not complain. Torque is out of this world great. Servicing is a breeze compared to the K -- can do your own valve checks in a half hour. Clutch replacements just require removing an engine cover plate, not separating the tranmission from the engine anymore. Excellent tuning kits available from companies like Brenntune to easily take things to the next level if desired.
Ergos:
K has slightly more leg rooom. RS no longer has multi-positional seat (or handlebars, or footpegs) and now you need to buy different $500 seat options from BMW for different heights. I'm 6'4" and was more comfortable on the K in highest seat positon than I am on R with sport (tallest) seat. Bars are lower on R meaning a slightly more agressive lean angle now; I put Heli risers on mine but didn't need them on the K. Seat is higher quality/more comfortable to my butt. Wind buffeting is worse -- you're going to want an aftermarket screen (I use an MRA Variotouring).
Other:
My K1200RS's OEM hard luggage had less space than my R1100RS and this is even less. Color-matched colored covers now, so that's a plus. Can still fit a full face helmet in rear case and another in left side, but everything else feels mroe cramped.
Get a GS and you will say the same
@@Pyrrho_ thanks for the detailed response! I appreciate it. Safe riding out there man!
Gotta be one of the most overlooked and underappreciated bikes out there. The want is strong for this one. Great video 👍
Can’t wait to see you get a chance on a similarly nice day giving the V100 Mandello S a proper go. From what I’ve seen it’s miles better than the regular Mandello. Although this BMW should be better technically, but not in looks. The Guzzi is beautiful I’d take it for sure.
I like the look of the RS way more than the GS. The GS has so much external 'pipework' they look like they should be serviced by a plumber.😂
i'm definitely extremely interested in seeing the 1250RS and V100 go up against each other head-to-head. these two bikes are the only sport touring machines i'm currently considering. Spain would certainly be best, but where ever you can do a comparo will have to do. keep up the good work mate...
Engine is longitudinally mounted, not transverse. The same with Moto guzzi.
Regular Motorcycle engines are transverse.
What’s a “Regular Motorcycle “?
I own this bike in blue(2020) as a replacement of a GSA (which got stolen from my garage 😡🥴) I use it as a daily rider amd Love it. Extremely versatile and has no problems keeping up with my buddies’ Ducatis and aprilias on trips (which I do on a single gas tank fill while they have to refuel once)! Great bike that I fully recommend 👍🏼! Great video and I’m impressed with lambchop for picking up the only few small issues so fast! PS The quick shift and gearbox improve a lot after breaking-in the bike
Great review thank you. I had a test ride of the RS at Ardens of Tunbridge Wells and loved it. As I’ve no intention of going off-road and measuring under 5’6 this bike fits. Taking delivery of my RS on 8th April😀 and touring with it in Germany and Spain this summer.
How do you like it so far? Thank you.
I bought my RS a couple of months back. So it's a 2022 Lite White sports with the red frame, full electronic suspension and all the bells and whistles including the Akrapovic exhaust. I did also buy the full luggage pack, panniers, top box and tank bag, for touring. The ease that these items come off is great also that they come with full internal bags is awesome. Now that mine is run in I can unleash the beast within the boxer. Anyone who doesn't like this has rocks for brains.
The RS might be a better road bike than the GS if you are fortunate enough to live in a part of the UK where the decline into shit-holedom has not reduced the roads into resembling a ploughed field. No need to go off road when riding on road is riding off road !
Careful not to fall for that legendary BMW mythos, and hospitality, Chopsie 😊 Kudos, again, for at least honestly reporting, albeit briefly, the "slightly agricultural gearbox" and so so quickshifter and autoblipper. Kudos, too, for correctly nailing the sports tourer vs GS suitability for 90% of people who buy that land barge convinced they're riding the best vehicle on the planet.
It will be interesting to see the comparison test with the Guzzi, as I am pretty sure the gearbox and shaft drive are superior on the new Marandello. Plus, it doesn't have the cheapo stickers that save BMW a fortune finishing their bikes off.
Shhhhh Chopsy, it’s BMWs secret tool. Every bugger will be buying them instead of GSs now ! Great bike, no issues with the quickshifter blipper in the higher gears, just a bit clunky at times 1-3rd up, no issues going down the box. Loving mine, will prob get another when they put the 1300 engine in it in a few yrs time - just wish our roads would dry out like the Spanish ones atm
I have no idea why you would buy the 1300 when the 1250 engine has so much to offer and this bike cannot be ridden to it's limit on public roads. Unless you wear it out ;)
@@wandering_armadillo probably because they’ll stop making the 1250 and superceed it with a 1300 engine 🤷🏻♂️
1300 is on the way. There are leaked photos from testing unit plus website leak with 1300 and 1400 models...
@@wandering_armadillo it will have the adaptive cruise control is one good reason for covering long distance on motorways/freeways/Autobahns.
I'm thinking the same thing and keeping my R1250RS to rent out.
Chops, you and Greg need to do a King of the Sports Tourer test…
BMW 1250 RS vs Guzzi V100 mandello.
Then Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX vs Suzuki GSX 1000 GT, Then a grand final head to head with the winner of each category, sound good 🤷🏻♂️??
Love a good sport tourer! If you have not yet had a chance, you really need to make a trip to ride British Columbia, Washington, and Oregon. Twisties and beauty everywhere.
Love your videos Man FJR Yamaha that should be in the comparison also even though it's on its way out think about it
It's a crying shame Yamaha is no longer supporting the FJR. I own a 2018 and they are awesome bikes for a fraction of the price of other bikes in its category.
Another great review! BMWs most overlooked bike, the R1250RS, is probably the best all around road bike they make. I would buy lower bars and raise the rear sets so it fit me a little better but the chassis is great and that 1250 engine is a phenomenal, fun powerplant for road riding.
I have had both the RS 1250 and the GS 1250, the GS is superior to tour on. I think the RS is a little too small. It is Very Fast and does handle better than the GS, Great Video, Thanks
I haven't ridden the RS, however my GSA is ideal for 2 up riding and the wind deflection leaves me in a bubble of calm air. I have my ninja 1k for sport touring.
However, I won my GS and if I were buying I'd heavily consider the RS just based on price.
So many people don’t understand how to correctly use the gear box. If you have the quick shifter and are using the clutch, you are essentially trying to tell the bike to do three things and once and it just answers in the fashion of your request, stupidly.
Rode this one and also the R model. The R feels better for taller persons, otherwise both very good bikes. Nice video. Got my like. Cheers.
Ridden a lot of bikes and the RS checks the most boxes. Sporty, comfortable, tourer, luggage flexibility, passenger comfort, daily rider. Great all around.
Great review as always; it’s so nice to watch content from someone who has been riding almost as long as me! That depth of experience really shows through, and puts you ahead of most of the other You Tubers, who have only been riding a few years. Keep up the good work.
It's a pale shadow of the mighty K1300S which they discontinued a while ago due to emissions regulations.
GS have more comortable position and RT is too heavy.
You've answered the question about why the R1250R is overlooked🤣 If I had those roads, I'd definitely be in the market for the RS. Great video as usual!
For all those GS owners who don't ride off-road go get an RS..what a load of bollocks.
Great review Chopsy, you really get the bike. I have a 2022 version (essentially the same) & love it, HOWEVER there are caveats. You rode & liked it on fantastic Spanish roads - I live in Spain (Valencia) & have endless kilometres of circuit quality uncluttered roads on my doorstep, not to mention the weather & this bike makes total sense, you can really get the most from it. If I were back in the UK the outlook would be different - not so good, congested roads & speed cameras galore, so maybe there a GS (e.g.) might make more sense. Keep up the great vids💪✌
Interesting to find out how much money the fully spec’d BMW, full BMW factory support you were riding in sunny Spain compared to the dealer spec’d base model Moto Guzzi v100 you rode in a cold ( minus degrees) wet UK 🤔 ……. Just saying Chopsey 😉 ( ps I’m biased I bought the Moto Guzzi v100 s and absolutely love it 👍🏻)
I would agree with your criticism. BMW missed an opportunity to make the RS less touring and more sport orientated. The gearbox is probably the biggest technical "issue" with the boxer, but it's something you can work around. The shift lever likes quick forceful inputs that follow through to the stop (both directions). Quick shifter also works best above 4k, and 2nd to 1st is best achieved as a manual shift, always.
I'm glad you spoke up about the nuances of the quick shifter- it has utility that has to be explained.
How would you make it more sport oriented? For 99% of the riders it is more sport capable then they are, and certainly more than you should be riding on public roadways anyway. BMW already makes 4-cylinder bikes that are 'more sport oriented', but the beauty of the RS is in how you get that kind of performance in a bike that's comfortable enough, and confidence inspiring, to be able to ride all day.
I have an older R1150-RS, and I'm well away its dated in respect to power and technology, but what it has is decent power and handling in a bike I've taken for a weeks ride in the mountains of Virginia & W. Virginia, then ridden it back home over 900-km. in comfort. My brother has a newer R-1200-RS and has similar compliments to it as expressed in this review.
Less touring and more sport oriented= S1000XR
If you like feeling super connected to the Moto, or you love really riding hard on the track (not on this, but i’ve seen them on the track) and don’t line being a human wind sail on an ADV style bike, the RS, the Ducati Supersport, the Guzzi v100 are the way to go
I finally test rode the 2023 RS a few weeks back while visiting Florida. BMW had their demo fleet at the local dealer. I was shocked... at how uncomfortable it was for me. The ride was not long, 20 to 30 minutes, and that was all it took to have my back hurting. Ergos are just too cramped (for me). Nothing like the R100RS I owned many years ago. Even the the three oil-head RSs I owned were more comfortable ergo-wise. It has too small a fuel tank for longer distances. To me, a true RS needs to have a six-plus gallon tank like all the RSs I owned, and really, the RS should have the same level of weather protection the original R100RS had. I think the R1250RS is more "S" than "RS". Which is fine. One "problem" I always had with all the RSs I owned was, you really needed to be hauling butt to be truly comfortable. This was great when I was stationed in Germany. Not so much here in the States where low speed limits on regular roads rule (except Texas). On my RT I can slow down and still be comfortable.... and still wick it up in the twisties :)
Thanks for a thought-provoking review. Here in the eastern US, there are so many scenic mountain and forest roads that happen to be unpaved. For that reason, and the reason I’m 6’3”, the GS is the obvious choice for me. If I wanted to limit myself to paved roads, the RS would be more fun. Thanks again.
After briefly owning an earlier RS , I went back to the RT which is more practical for long distance touring.
Totally agree the RS is a better road bike. As almost nobody with a GS ever take them off road, so it becomes more of a lifestyle choice....like an SUV, rather than an estate car. One could argue this approach is a little shallow. Also as the majority of GS owners are in their autumn years and therefore are bimbling carcasses who dribble gravy, they must be publicly disgraced........!
Please tell BMW to Add Apple car play!!!!
Garbage the GS is more versatile and better for real roads
I bought my BMW GSA for the size and comfort, I won't be going off road, I think alot of people buy them for the size and road presence they have, that's why I wouldn't buy an RS
Looking forward to the comparison with the V100 😊
Look forward to the Mandello /R1250RS comparo. Straight away I can say I prefer the fairing to the standard non-fairing version. Just add heated grips,seat and a top box - perfect day/weekend sports tourer with shaft drive - hate messy chains,they're a deal breaker.
Another fantastic review, thanks 007. I know 2 adventure bike owners and neither venture off tarmac. Both put comfort ahead of handling. The last bike I rode with a 19” front wheel (and back wheel too) was my 1975 Norton 850 Commando.
I've ridden the 1200 and 1250RS but each time I've gone for a GS. The main reason being at 5'7" I found the reach to the bars to much, which then compromised my rear vision shoulder checks , couple this with the mirrors being further away than on the GS so the angle of vision available through them was less I just didn't feel it was for me even though it'a better road bike. At least BMW are FINALLY doing it in a decent colour scheme after years of mundane colours after they ditched the original Lupus Blue and White version.
Couldn't agree more re. colour scheme choices Adrian. About bloody time. Sick to death of 'any colour you like as long as it's some shade of grey or black (or' funeral blue')'. It's why I went for Austin Yellow - best of a bad bunch at the time.
I wish BMW would create a proper S1000RR engined sports tourer (not the XR!) then I might consider it as an alternative to my H2 SX
I owned one of these and a GS, GS all day long for me.. much prefer the tele lever front fork.. great review
I've been on a BMW RS of some kind for over 40 yrs. A new one is on the way spec'd to my desires. I'd like to wait til the 1300/1400 water cooled aluminum frame version comes along but I need to get on with it at 68. More later. Twist the Grip, RTW.
Had a 2019 Sport model (no bells or whistles). Great motorway or long sweepy road bike, but never had any confidence in the front end and always seemed to be pushing and rolling rather than dropping into corners due to the (maybe too) low C of G. Not good enough for UK twisty roads and a PIA to heave about on an incline. I wasn't doing 2/3 European tours a year due to Covid, so sold it. Happy to have had it, but don't really miss it.
Had a GS, got the RS, the RS is a better bike for the road, as for the "quick shifter", it's described as "gear shift assist" by BMW and, as long as you're a little more firm with the lever, it works brilliantly, mines butter smooth up and down the box. There's a comment about the GS having better wind and weather protection, no it hasn't, if anything it's slightly less. As for standing up to stretch you legs, I do it as often as needed when I'm doing distance abroad but, I am a shortarse so it's arguably easier for me. Hands down one of the best bikes I've ever owned, so much so, I'll be having a 24 model around August time, to put that comment into perspective, I've been riding 50 years this year, ridden most things, raced in my younger days, and this RS is one of the best bikes you've never ridden.
GS how good it is, is a compromised bike for the road. Akin to driving a Hummer dropping the kids off at the pool.
Nonsense
@@stevenharris7788not nonsense at all, it’s in the design, it’s off road ability compromises it on road, it’s why I’m buying the RS.
@@chris6559 I’ve got a gs and it’s not compromised at all in any way whatsoever it is nonsense to say otherwise it’s got more than enough ability on the road that’s why most of them don’t get used off road and before you start I’ve ridden the r/s and I didn’t like the fact it put weight on my rist that’s why I bought my gs that’s now got 25.000. Road uncompromising miles on it
@@stevenharris7788 lol, your confirmation bias is noted.
Please consider adding the KTM SDGT to your comparison comments. Love your review - thank you!
Great review, tempted but don’t think I could give up the GS’s endless luggage capacity for 2 up camping trips etc, looks stunning though. Good work LC.
I'm 100% with you. I also have a GS (my second one). On top of what you mentioned, I'd like to add the suspension travel on the GS (190/200mm vs 140/140mm) and the absence of the Telelever at the front would most likely make a difference on not-so-nice-like-in-Spain pavement. That said, the RS looks stunning and I would add it to my collection if I could. The RT is my next purchase...for touring purposes with the Lady.
Totally enjoy my R1250R with bags, proper windscreen, and hand guards for hot rodding and touring👍
Meanwhile back in the UK, the surface of most of our roads now resembles the surface of the moon, that's my main reason for a GS over an RS. Oh for lovely smooth Spanish tarmac.
Not a GS fan, but this advantage is undeniable. Our roads are shocking and steadily getting worse.
Except your adv bike still performs superbly on back country potholed lanes, where bikers often end up in the relentless pursuit of car free roads!
Roger that
I'd agree the Guzzi Mandelo is the direct competitor to this RS BMW, but there is another sport touring contender that has been overlooked - the Ducati SuperSport 939. Admittedly the Ducati is a smaller machine, not as appropriate for two-up riding, but the payback is lighter weight and better twisty road capabilities.
RS has to be better for aspalt than GS, but it looks like it s only for the fun of driving and feeling...And espacially in these type of roads seen in video.I don t think so that you may have a second passenger for a longer trip (couple of hours riding or so...).So when comes to this point, then you srart to think about the...RT... That s my dilema...
I also love the idea of the new Guzzi, but I live in Western Australia and my rides take me into the middle of nowhere.
Last thing I want is a bike that makes me worried that it's not going to start.
I Guzzis are better than they used to be, but still.....
Hi Chopsie I bought one! Didn’t want to follow the sheep in the GS flock 😅 Love it
MCN recently compared this to the Mandello and the Ninja 1000. Any chance when you do your comparison you could add the Kawasaki as well as I'm sure I'm not the only Ninja owner who would like to see how it compares in your opinion as its a bike you've not tested.
I second that. Not living in the UK, what was MCN's verdict?
I have just downloaded the article and am quite disappointed by the very superficial approach, nowhere do they compare performance. What makes me doubt about the Mandello is that for the same weight it is 25 hp down on power compare to the Ninja and has got a shaft drive which is great but it also saps some power from the engine to the wheel. What really got me is that the journalist described the Ninja's engine as "lacking character" compared to the boxer. If there's something I cannot stand from motorcycle journalists is when they resort to "character" to describe an engine, for me it's even more subjective than aesthetics. I come from two years and 36000 km on a GS and I swapped it for the Ninja mainly because I found the inline-four much more agreeable, it's torquey (I ride mountain passes with mates on GS and the Ninja is the more agile bike), delivers more power, runs much smoother and has got the same range. I found the boxer drive-train not very refined, a lot of mechanical noise, the exhaust is much louder than the Kawasaki's specially with the hard panniers mounted and the gearbox of the BMW boxer models is very clunky. My QS was hard and had a lot of fails, I was told that it's the combination of the engine's layout with the shaft drive that makes for a difficult QS... anyhow I really like the proposition of the Mandello and will give it a try as my local Kawasaki dealer also sells MG.
John, after watching you for a couple of years....I have come to the conclusion that if I tied your hands up, you wouldn't be able to talk lol.
Great insight into the rs and looking forward to the match off against the guzzi.
Great review and I’d have the RS over the GS anyday
owned a 15 r1200rs , it was a gas to ride for a year ,suspension, travel a bit to short and stiff for multiple day rides , wore out rear shock in one year , bought a 15 tiger 800 , upgraded suspension with Wilber’s much more fun and comfortable,parts cheaper and easier to work on, not as fast.
I have prior seriously considered R1200RS/R1250RS.
So many rightly praise the GS models ...often with focus on the engine(s) & how they deliver.
I see the relevance of the GS ...IF wanting a higher up riders eye view, to genuinelly venture off road or maybe better cope with dangerous condition UK roads.
If able to be best proactive with UK road surface imperfections then arguably the RS models make more sense.
Would you have one over the Superduke GT? Similar price.
I reckon you are spot on with your comment. I suspect a lot of riders buy the wrong GS for their needs....
I went to the London bike show determined not to buy another GS. But having sat on umpteen bikes including the RS that slightly greater legroom on the GS was sufficient to not sway me. The replacement GS arrived on Tuesday 😅
100% agree!
I came from a Tracer after 5/6 years to a 1200RS and it is super agile, even from a 200kgs standard wheight (witch it have more 35/40)
The smothness of the engine, the quick pull up from the go and the confort amaze me every day 👌✌️
I'm considering changing my Tracer 900 for the 1250RS. I love the Tracer a lot, but this bike really captivates me. Not just the tech differences but the reviews on comfort and that engine! The Tracer is a superb (in my opinion) bike but the RS might just tip the scales for me next years riding. Test ride time I think....
S1000XR Or r1250RS for real world sport touring?
The RS feels more like home but the XR acceleration and quick shift are amazing
Great videos. Thanks a much million 👍
A question for you Chops, let’s say you’re mainly a road rider but you like sports bikes. Maybe you’d consider doing a track day but not often, but you love the looks and handling of a sports bike. So the question, RR or RS and why?
If you had to choose between this and the Kawasaki 1000SX for a trip to Spain, which one would you choose?
Another great review. Lovely roads and weather, would have been a blast. Personal thing but I’m not a fan of boxer twins or the looks but it’s got a great niche.
I hope Moto Guzzi develop a Le Mans (VI) version of the Mandello with similar performance to the Bimmer. I’d sell my Rocket 3 for that.
How would this bike compare to the current FJR1300ES in terms of comfort and vibration? I know it wins hands down for features like the quick shifter but the riding position would be different?
Another great real world bike test, love the content, really looking forward to the comparison test between the Moto Guzzi V100 Mondello and the R1250RS...... hurry up and make that happen 😊😊
Chopsy, given you've ridden both the RS and R, what would you sway more towards for some enjoyable touring?
I am in the process of selling my GSA, I find it too big for my liking. So the 1250R with a decent screen or 1250RS is the next bike.
Theoretically a 1300RS will have more weight toward the front with the engine transmission redesign? Should be lighter faster and better? 2025?
The question as to why buy a GS for ON-ROAD...? Well, if you live in a 3rd world country like the State of California, you NEED suspension travel for our road conditions...
65 years old, 6'5" tall. The RS feels too sports bike, too bent over, not enough leg room. I went with the GS Trophy, with all the options. This RS is a much better ride for those 6 ft tall or less. Show it some respect.... that 136 HP will have your eyes watering in under 1.5 seconds, and your front wheel off the ground in the process, if on a GS and in Enduro mode.
Brother, The GS in the hands of a skilled rider will peel rubber and corner like any sports bike. Props to the manufacturers. I just can't get past the farty sound of the boxer. Yuck. Fart Fart Fart.
I ride a Bonneville which I was complaining about yesterday because when I hit the twisties I want to push it and it’s, let’s say, a bit terrifying at times. Maybe my next bike needs to be a sports tourer.
Great review LCR and definitely make sure it’s on a fair playing field against the Mandello S. The Ohlins on the V100 make the world of difference.
Great review Chops. After several GS’s I bought an RS and what a revelation it was. I put 5500 miles on it around the Scottish roads in 6 months before I had to sell it because my knees are buggered (technical term). I swapped it for an R Nine T, which I also love, because the R NineT was easier to move around the garage and didn’t hurt my knee as much, but the RS was a stonking bike.
Between the BMW 1250 Rs or the H2 SX SE, which one would you have?
Cops here use the RS and Triumph Tiger 900s.
The way ALL foreigners pronounce “Sangría” is beyond lame.
From the start Chopsie you make a brilliant point. The R 1250rs is a good looking bike and no doubt will sell, however, I would worry about taking it off road, GS 1250 also, in fact all big adventure bikes are way too heavy for off road. My dream would be a super sports bike and a proper muscle enduro like a Husqvarna 701 etc. I once bought a KTM 450 enduro, and instantly thought I shoulda got the 600, these days we have massive choice
An rs is not for taking off road and probably not a gs either are you still waiting for extradition?
When you do the head to head with the Guzzi it should be with the Mandello with the Öhlins
Mostly using the back brake?! What the hell, man?! Trail braking!
GS looks better, offers more leg room, has wider bars for extra leverage, bigger tank on Adventure model, longer travel suspension equals better comfort, that undeniable cult following...
Looks better? Really?? I guess beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder...
I ride a gs not an r or rs because it has better leg room for my 78 year old legs rather than the r1200r i had several years ago, if you prefer a RS who cares i dont
BMW broke my heart and lost me as a customer when they replaced the clearly superior Saxon Motodd(Tele-Lever) front suspension with congenitally INFERIOR Telescopics(inverted or not) on the R and RS. Engineering used to be BMW's strongest forte but they have forsaken that with costly to replace trendy electronic gizmos, servos, and flat screens that regularly 'decay' soon after the warranty expires.
Agreed. I bought a 1250 PURELY for the front end....having said that, three years on, the most aggressive (off road?!) I've been is bouncing up and down a few kerbs. I would now, buy an RS.
If you'd now buy an R or RS over the GS or RT be prepared to rediscover bump-steer clumsiness at low speeds and unsettling brake-dive at higher speeds. Both of which are eliminated with your 1250's Tele-Lever suspension @@abudhabidel1
Love this bike. It's been on my radar for years. I bought the Japanese poor man version though, the GSX-S1000GT+.
I had the opportunity to buy whatever I wanted and went with the Suzuki. It’s the perfect road bike.
Great review. The engine sound. AURGHK! Sounds like a farty tractor or farm equip.
Exactly Kent! We love 'em for their blart too 😂
Lambchop is also a razor facing left both are vertical
“Tuesday”
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This is a lambchop razor its different looking to the cut throat
I want the high ride of a GS… especially on the road so I can see over the cars in front of me.
Best RS review ever! Especially when in the last years the handling was often said to be lacking. Looks like the best sport tourer if you really go on multi week long trips because of the cardan drive. The new Moto Guzzi V100 is also pretty cool.
I sold my GS for the 2021RS - not going back to the GS
We can no longer be friends Chopsie.
You're dead to me.
Haha sorry Bruce 😫🤣
Did I miss the promised RS MG comparison video or is yet to come?
Nice review. Seems like a great bike but I still prefer the V100's soul & style overall. Any chance you can get hold of a V100 S for the comparison?
I'm going to try RR 👍
@@LambChopRides Good lad. : )
Great review and definitely all over the gs.
I ride a 7 year old K1300S. I was riding with a friend who bought the first iteration of this R1250 RS. The thing was so sharp through the bends I couldn’t keep him in sight. In a drag race it was a very close thing but in the twistiest it slayed my K.
I think your review is misleading to potential buyers. This bike is marketed as a sports tourer, not a sports bike. To say the handlebars should be more low down is absurd. The riding position is heavy on the arms and wrists as it is. You didn’t say how long you were in the saddle but, especially at your height I think the cramped riding position would be an issue after a while. Yes it is easier to manhandle and flat foot than a GS and not so intimidating size wise. Guess it comes down to what your priorities are. Best wishes😊
Its under Sport on the BMW website.. Could have been Touring or Adventure but they chose Sport.
@@LambChopRides You're quite right. I was somewhat surprised to see this. Guess they didn't want to create yet another category for just one model. I would've thought 'touring' would be closer to the mark though.