+The Great Mr. Gabe Bro, that was 4th down, with the overturned call the game was essentially over (save for a kneel down). Browns fans have nothing to lose anymore man, we've given it all away already.
Happy holidays my foot. It was anything but happy holidays for America in late 2001. Last time anybody checked, the country was still dealing with the aftermath of 9/11 just three months ago.
+ericradford2142 I had a great time during the holidays that year... the whole family got together and just generaly had a great time, as most tend to do during the holidays as its a time to be thankful for what you have and let your loved ones know you appreciate them
ericradford2142 How did "everyone" else cope? LOL, you know how you coped. It was a horrific tragedy and on that day alot of people were stunned by how evil it was, they still went to work and everyday life resumed extremely fast because you cant stop life and focus on something so horrific. The people still celebrated halloween, ate thanksgiving dinner, bought their loved ones presents, got together, watched the christmas story and partied on New Years.
Everyone is arguing about the refs and the fan reaction, and I'm just here trying to figure out how the Browns and Jaguars are in a game with playoff potential.
Lol he has no point. I'm just pointing out that if he wasn't a teenager, he'd probably know the Jaguars were semi-relevant in short intervals in the late 90s and mid-00s.
+hash Z "Semi-relevant in short intervals" doesn't mean much. Sure, they beat up on Marino's Dolphins and made an AFCCG, but hell, they're a failed franchise ATM and have been since roughly 2008. I'd be surprised if they don't leave in the next decade. Regardless, both of these teams have been very unsuccessful in their current incarnations, at least since the time of this game in the Jags' case.
I was there that day as a guest of a Cleveland friend of mine that was absolutely the worst officiating I've ever seen and it was the last football game I ever went to do that
Wait.. the Browns ran another play after that and they still reviewed it?? THAT'S BS... once they snap the ball the other play is in the books for good. I would riot too
Yeah refs blew this game, fans reacted unreasonable and ruined the rest of the game, cant argue that, they ended the game earlier then it should've ended, but those refs had downs.
The request did not come from Coughlin. It came from the upstairs booth. It was legitimate. That overrides the fact that the Browns immediately ran another play.
+Dylan Bimuller especially when just three months ago we were attacked by terrorists. So much for the lessons learned on that sad September morning in 2001.
@Dylan Bimuller McAully officiating super bowls has to do with his officiating for those particular years with the super bowl. Botching one game should not disqualify someone from future assignments.
Dylan Bimuller this was one game in like his first season. He called great games in Super Bowls 39, 43, and 48, with no controversial calls, and now is the rules analyst for the NFL on NBC (all of Sunday Night Football plus a few other games)
I brought my Mom, on her 60th birthday, to this game!! We could see how ugly it was getting in the stands loooong before this incident at the end, where we were ROBBED. Mom and I packed it up and were just about to exit the stadium, and I'd even said "I can't believe they're selling hard lemonade in bottles that can be used as projectiles!" What a clusterfuq these refs created.
An act of unbelievable incompetence, followed by an act of unforgivable arrogance, followed by an act of supreme cowardice: All in a day's work for NFL officials. What they don't show here was the commish calling and telling them to get their asses back out through the gauntlet of plastic beer bottles and finish the game. That was the only silver lining. Whenever people preened and showed off in fake anguish about the ref''s strike years later, I remembered this incident.
Yeah I guess so, considering they have blown countless random games for the Patriots lol After all, that's why Ben Dreith was banned after fixing the playoffs.
i'm actually Kim Kardashians vagina, and you seriously expect me to loosen up MORE? if you say so, but don't bitch when you get sucked into the abyss of a black hole
Someone got hit in the head with a plastic bottle and split his head wide open? Sounds like this commentator went to the same school as Joe Buck for overreactions.
They mentioned that they are plastic bottles and if you think fans in cleveland are going to waste beer you are CRAZY! They don't even give the fans the caps to the bottles either. Unless they were hurling other stuff I don't see anyone getting their head split open.
Rush Vogel but the rule is no plays can pass. It’s not about who deserves what in the nfl. It’s about what the rules say. They ran another play, it’s over, and then McAulay had the balls to lie about it when he clearly reaches for his buzzer well after he calls the spike incomplete
It's not often I sympathize with angry fans throwing shit on the field, but man, the Browns got fucking screwed on that one, I can't blame them at all for getting pissed. Utterly baffling to me that the ref crew that bungled this game got to work the Super Bowl that year.
+mcj88 Basically, the refs ignored a rule the NFL put in place and went back after Tim Couch spiked the ball, they said there was that malfunction, but how does that happen in an NFL setting? It was more like they screwed up and didn't want to admit that they did and just did whatever they wanted. Also, those bottles were not plastic like Ian Eagle mistakenly said here, they were glass. Someone also got hit the head with a portable radio and their head got split open. The fact is, you just don't mess with Cleveland sports fan, they have had enough heartbreak in all our history, that when something like this happens they get really mad because it feels as if those Refs did this purposely because they were covering their tails.
Timothy Parry Jr The call came from upstairs. The refs on the field had to do what was told to them. Browns got screwed. Even if the communications between upstairs to the field malfunctioned, once a play had been run, they should have ate their mistake. But it was the Brown. It couldn't have happened to a nicer team lol.
Lets be real here. If the right call was the final outcome, the only thing they were cheated out of was the final seconds that was left on the clock when the game was called. And the fans caused that to happen because they couldn't control themselves.
“A camera man is down and his head is spilt wide open” like dude shut the fuck up, that didn’t happen. Imagine being sympathetic to these retarded refs
@@shakobenmyerz tuck rule was a good call (for that season) earlier that year tye same exact thing happened to Kurt Warner. His arm loved forward and the ball came out but the refs called it incomplete just like they did for brady. It was so controversial in the tuck rule game that the rule was removed after that season
+Anselmo Sedillo I think the most significant thing is that the catch was not actually made, no one seems to talk about that. It being reviewed means nothing if Morgan actually made the catch.
Not the case, the fact is that the play was ruled that the ball was not complete and indeed replay supports that finding. People only take issue with the fact that they think there shouldn't have been a review on the play. All they want is a non-catch that was improperly ruled a catch to stay incorrectly ruled a catch. But since it wasn't a catch, the important thing is that it is ruled not a catch, which it was changed to. That is the only significant thing
+cooliovasquez So even though a team doesn't make a catch, they should be rewarded for getting their next play off quickly? Some dumb logic there. The refs reviewed the play and got the call right. Boohoo fucking hoo the Browns didn't get away with not catching the ball.
Yeah, if the league sets a precedent about when a play can or can't be reviewed it needs to always be followed otherwise it's meaningless. Anyway, the browns would probably have still lost, because they're the shitty ol browns.
Haven't seen this old diddy in awhile. I'm a hardcore Stillers fan and even I have to admit, you guys got completely ripped off on this one. Total bullshit.
And Cleveland was just robbed again today in Oakland. Refs literally took the win away from them after they picked up a first down to close the game. One of the worst calls I've ever seen in my life.
@@jamesyhsiao I completely understand, but the refs made a mistake in the first place by saying the Browns receiver caught it. I am not sure how the Browns were robbed when their receiver did not catch the pass on 4th down.
Yes, they were, but still, this crowd was violent. 5:50 This is messed up. Even worse, the Browns Owner after the game said "it's not like it's world war III"
Because of Butch Davis and Tim Couch. And when Couch got hurt after taking them to the playoffs Kelly Holcomb played well enough to beat Pittsburgh, but Dennis Northcutt dropped the game winning first down and they lost
After the ruled completed pass, the official failed to notice the booth challenge until after Cleveland ran another play to spike the ball, after which the said previous play could not be challenged. This is what caused Browns fans to practically riot.
I'm a Giants fan so i don't really like Dallas but Dez caught that. With that said, Dallas couldn't stop Rodgers that day so I don't doubt he would've went down the field and won that game
I was there, didn't throw anything, but it definitely felt right in that moment. The most personal account of "groupthink" behavior I've ever experienced.
Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio and have been a diehard Browns fan since I was born. To watch these referees make horrible calls and ruin the integrity of football is just sickening and pathetic. They stand for their rules but they will break them and then uphold the rules right after. They are complete hypocrites and should be ashamed of themselves. Nothing will ever justify their actions that happened at bottlegate and these horrible calls are continuing in the year 2019, something has to be done about this they’re ruining the game of football.
No one's head was "split open". My brother and I were at this game at closed end of old Municipal Stadium. The announcer who claimed that that happened should have been fired. Never happened.
I was at that game for my 30th birthday, and I have to say two things. 1) GREATEST game I have ever been to. The Municipal lot was even crazier. 2) Only in Cleveland.#216
I’m a Vikings fan and I don’t blame the Browns fans one bit for their reactions. The Browns ran another play, even if you meant to review it before that, the fact is the players beat you to the punch. You can’t review a previous play. What the officials did was wrong. I felt bad for everyone involved though, I felt bad for the fans who felt cheated, I felt bad the officials who were trying to get out of harms way. I think things like this is why bad calls usually go in favor of the home team like the Tuck Rule, the Dez Bryant Catch,
Was about to say the same thing too lol. At around the 5 min mark in the clip, they show the main ref (the one in the white cap) watching the play and then signalling an incomplete pass. I think to a lot of people, that's considered another play. If a play is needed to be stopped, like a timeout called or play is being reviewed, I thought the refs usually just try to blow the whistle and wave their arms, even if a play begins (to call the play dead) to stop play and announce whats going on (timeout/review/etc). Here it seemed like the "spiked the ball to stop the clock" play was ran and not blown dead, then after the play was ran, "oh wait" we had a malfunction, the play 2 plays ago is being reviewed, even thought to most, if not all, had/have the understanding that........that can't happen........another play was ran, so.......that shouldn't happen
I hate Cleveland and I hate the Browns but damn. This is awful. Just terrible officiating. That game was stolen. I read that the head ref is still in the league. WTF
I actually live near Cleveland, and I'm surprised that this actually happened back when I was only 3 years old. Well, nothing has changed ever since for the Browns.
Why, because of the tuck rule? That wasn't an injustice. It was a rule that had been called multiple times that year. If anything the Raiders owed the Pats one for the phantom roughing the passer call in the '76 playoffs.
@Luke(opener): Someone should say to the refs, before they officiate a game, "Remember where you are, and *remember the audience* in front of whom you do your thing."
I was in NYC in 2005 and ask for direction s from a local and was told to fuck off. People are they way they are and a tragic event like Sept won't change that for long. Compassion is only temporary.
Mike Henry America is a country known for its fads and its tendency to overreact to issues and then forget them as everyday life pushes them into the background.
I remember this game, Refs tried to come up with the "Uuh my buzzer wasn't vibrating properly and/or the replay booth had a malfunction and every excuse they can about something not working. The NFL rule states: That a play ran before the refs can stop it officially, is considered a played down and the previous down play cannot be reviewed under no circumstances. Unless the ref is stopping it right after the qb snapped it and blew it dead, there's no going back and no Buzzered or Booth can determine that. One of the worst calls in NFL History, because they bent or broke a rule, that cost a team a chance to win. I hope all of them refs got pelted with bottles for that call.
Hands down thee most egregious call by a NFL Ref ever! It’s 20 years this year, it was horrible then. And it’s still horrible now. I felt so sorry for the Brown Fans after this game. This was the same season of the infamous Tuck Rule! This is the one year the NFL wants people to forget
+ericradford2142 what's even weirder is the fact that in november 01, there was a charity boxing match for the world trade center relief fund. after the fight, the loser sucker punched the other boxer and broke his jaw. i guess there was a lot of animosity in the air.
This game should have been awarded to the Browns. Refs blew It and violated NFL Rules. Clear as day. If they can go back multiple plays to change things, then the NFL (if they had any guts) could go back and award the victory to the Browns. DISGRACEFUL! Those refs are lucky they weren't mobbed and beaten for that despicable action. Don't forget Ten Cent Beer Night Riot in Cleveland (1974 Cleveland Indian game). BTW -- Art Modell Rot in Hell!
MKIVWWI What...? How can you award the win to Cleveland when 1. They're not even winning the game, and 2. What have Jacksonville done wrong to be awarded a loss??? It's not their fault the referee's completely fucked up so why should they be punished? Don't ever enter politics please.
I cringed when I heard Brent Jones's voice again. I despised him as an analyst. He and Randy Cross were (and still are) the bottom of the barrel to me. Fox has had its fair share of crap, but I root for an AFC team and therefore had to deal with those two neanderthals for years.
Sorry, but I'm 100% positive it's Brent. Randy's voice is deeper and has more of a drawl. I had to deal with these two turds for season after season. Their voices are etched into my head like festering sores. Each of them has a video on TH-cam of them speaking for reference. Amazingly Randy is still an analyst for college games on CBS Sports Network. But thankfully for me he only calls games I never have any vested interest in. BTW I see you're in Japan. I lived there for awhile and will likely return at some point. It felt kinda odd for nearly every week to be Monday Night Football (I'd download the game after returning home from work).
I'm no Aikman fan, but he doesn't agitate me the way Brent and Randy did. Their piousness was insufferable. But I can generally avoid Aikman's broadcasts. If I rooted for a NFC team and was stuck with Fox most of the time, my opinion would likely be different.
12thManInTokyo this is absolutely Brent Jones their voices aren’t even close. Randy Cross was doing a different game with dick enberg or Verne lundquist or someone
Fans did the right thing here. If not for them, the NFL would still be waffling around about whether or not a malfunction means you can go back and review a play after another play has been run.
Two things referees should remember before officiating a game... 1) Remember where you are. AND 2) *Consider the audience* in front of whom you perform your tasks.
Terry Mcauley is a super bowl worthy ref. he has reffed numerous playoff games and Head reffed Super Bowl 43. He did a good job, and as a Steeler fan who has seen many horrible calls against us, that was a logical and safe call. Browns fans should have controlled themselves.
Sean, quit using the refs as an excuse for losing. Dont get me wrong, I am very empathetic to the browns, but if you cant score more than 13 points in a game against one of the worst defenses in football, then you dont deserve to win.
Alex Fullmer score more points? how the fuck are they supposed to do that when they get down to the 10 yd line when the refs suddenly just say fuck you browns and force a turnover on downs. It's kind of score when whenever you get in position to score you get fucked!
This was the dumbest event in sports ever, WHEN A PLAY IS RAN YOU CANNOT REVIEW THE LAST! it is an official rule of the NFL, and everyone knows it. The only reason tim couch spiked it was because he knew that the whistle blew. Ya see, HE followed the rules, dont even get me started on the fans. Fine. So you want me to get started on the fans aye? WHERE DID THE BOTTLES EVEN COME FROM!!!!! I wonder if people paid money just to throw them. It could have been a really good game too. What a shame that the Browns suck so much the refs hate them now.
"You're only hurting yourselves by throwing stuff onto the field" BULLSHIT lol.. the fans had nothing to lose..
+ratnick Agreed, Terry McAulay created that dangerous situation.
+ratnick I'm pretty sure that the fans weren't the ones getting hurt by the stuff being thrown onto the field.
The Great Mr. Gabe
They already lost the game regardless.
+The Great Mr. Gabe Bro, that was 4th down, with the overturned call the game was essentially over (save for a kneel down). Browns fans have nothing to lose anymore man, we've given it all away already.
+ratnick I mean, they paid for entertainment and the entertainment fucked up. Did the refs even get disciplined?
Not even a Browns fan, but that was a bigger injustice than some plastic bottles on the field. Good for the fans.
They weren’t plastic back then they were glass bottles. That’s why they changed to plastic after this game
bsholmes1993 the announcer said they were plastic.
No this is the reason they switched to plastic
Those are glass bottles they wouldnt call the game on cans
the announcer says at 2:30 "fortunately those bottles are plastic" which I'm not sure is really fortunate or unfortunate.....
The funniest thing from that entire video is the graphic at the end that says "Happy Holidays"
Happy holidays my foot. It was anything but happy holidays for America in late 2001. Last time anybody checked, the country was still dealing with the aftermath of 9/11 just three months ago.
+ericradford2142 I had a great time during the holidays that year... the whole family got together and just generaly had a great time, as most tend to do during the holidays as its a time to be thankful for what you have and let your loved ones know you appreciate them
+Mr.DC24 did you cope with 9/11 like everyone else in the holidays?
ericradford2142 How did "everyone" else cope? LOL, you know how you coped. It was a horrific tragedy and on that day alot of people were stunned by how evil it was, they still went to work and everyday life resumed extremely fast because you cant stop life and focus on something so horrific. The people still celebrated halloween, ate thanksgiving dinner, bought their loved ones presents, got together, watched the christmas story and partied on New Years.
+Mr.DC24 I respect your opinion. If you were offended, I'm sorry. Still it was a challenging time for the country.
Everyone is arguing about the refs and the fan reaction, and I'm just here trying to figure out how the Browns and Jaguars are in a game with playoff potential.
+helloman107 the Browns for a short while in 2001 and 2002 were pretty good. they actually made the playoffs in 2002.
+helloman107 believe it or not, the NFL has been around longer than 17 years, unlike you.
+hash Z The guy has a point. Ad hominem attacks don't mean shit
Lol he has no point. I'm just pointing out that if he wasn't a teenager, he'd probably know the Jaguars were semi-relevant in short intervals in the late 90s and mid-00s.
+hash Z "Semi-relevant in short intervals" doesn't mean much. Sure, they beat up on Marino's Dolphins and made an AFCCG, but hell, they're a failed franchise ATM and have been since roughly 2008. I'd be surprised if they don't leave in the next decade. Regardless, both of these teams have been very unsuccessful in their current incarnations, at least since the time of this game in the Jags' case.
I was there that day as a guest of a Cleveland friend of mine that was absolutely the worst officiating I've ever seen and it was the last football game I ever went to do that
Wait.. the Browns ran another play after that and they still reviewed it?? THAT'S BS... once they snap the ball the other play is in the books for good. I would riot too
would you be as mad about this as finding yourself in a "ginger" shop?
Yeah refs blew this game, fans reacted unreasonable and ruined the rest of the game, cant argue that, they ended the game earlier then it should've ended, but those refs had downs.
The request did not come from Coughlin. It came from the upstairs booth. It was legitimate. That overrides the fact that the Browns immediately ran another play.
Paul Johnson no it doesn't
There was a malfunction in the reviewing. The refs couldnt properly review it and the browns ran a play
I hope these refs got fired. completly botched the game and I don't blame these Browns fans for getting angry.
+Kian Gibson Terry McAulay, the guy who stopped the play, actually went on to be the ref of three super bowls, the latest being Super Bowl 48.
+Dylan Bimuller especially when just three months ago we were attacked by terrorists. So much for the lessons learned on that sad September morning in 2001.
@Dylan Bimuller McAully officiating super bowls has to do with his officiating for those particular years with the super bowl. Botching one game should not disqualify someone from future assignments.
Dylan Bimuller this was one game in like his first season. He called great games in Super Bowls 39, 43, and 48, with no controversial calls, and now is the rules analyst for the NFL on NBC (all of Sunday Night Football plus a few other games)
Rush Vogel he broke an nfl rule nonetheless
I brought my Mom, on her 60th birthday, to this game!! We could see how ugly it was getting in the stands loooong before this incident at the end, where we were ROBBED. Mom and I packed it up and were just about to exit the stadium, and I'd even said "I can't believe they're selling hard lemonade in bottles that can be used as projectiles!" What a clusterfuq these refs created.
It must have sucked
17 years later and incomplete passes/catches are still something they don't know what is defined as LOL
An act of unbelievable incompetence, followed by an act of unforgivable arrogance, followed by an act of supreme cowardice: All in a day's work for NFL officials.
What they don't show here was the commish calling and telling them to get their asses back out through the gauntlet of plastic beer bottles and finish the game. That was the only silver lining.
Whenever people preened and showed off in fake anguish about the ref''s strike years later, I remembered this incident.
These referees later went on to officiate every Patriots game.
Yeah I guess so, considering they have blown countless random games for the Patriots lol
After all, that's why Ben Dreith was banned after fixing the playoffs.
You joke but these referees somehow did get to ref the super bowl the same year that bottle gate happened
You mean Brady games
@@dylanhills3244 it’s a joke chill
@@dylanhills3244 cry about it
I smell another 30 for 30.
Nobody other than people in Cleveland care about the Browns enough
+zellarsDD777 actually, there is a 30 for 30 on Cleveland sports coming this year.
Gregory Visone Cool. I genuinely feel for Cleveland fans, they have had nothing but pain and suffering.
+Blackjack115 Definetely needs to be done
+Gregory Visone They should do one for us Houston sports fans
"It's getting ugly here in Cleveland" that's like saying "It's getting wet here in the middle of the ocean"
Cleveland's been not ugly before?
#Savage
i'm actually Kim Kardashians vagina, and you seriously expect me to loosen up MORE? if you say so, but don't bitch when you get sucked into the abyss of a black hole
@@ohioagainsttheworld676 cleveland is a dump plus the browns have the ugliest colors you can combine
…. Cullen McGill says while Cleveland's collective nuts comfortably rest upon his chin.
Someone got hit in the head with a plastic bottle and split his head wide open? Sounds like this commentator went to the same school as Joe Buck for overreactions.
KevinLove3030 Were bottles plastic for everything or no?
Were there glass beer bottles at the game with the announcers being ignorant?
They mentioned that they are plastic bottles and if you think fans in cleveland are going to waste beer you are CRAZY! They don't even give the fans the caps to the bottles either. Unless they were hurling other stuff I don't see anyone getting their head split open.
A plastic bottle will not split your head open under normal circumstances.
Glass bottles can and will thou.
No, they were plastic bottles. And yes, they can still fuck someone up.
Joe Buck is the worst
Only in Cleveland would some wacky ass scenario cost the Browns the game. I would have been pissed off too. Poor Browns fans...
Worst call in the history of sports
Best call ;)
Could've been worse like the Heysel Tragedy
Not even close. The receiver DID NOT catch the pass. I don't care how many plays passed; they did not deserve the first down on the fourth down play.
Rush Vogel says "I don't give a shit about these silly things called 'rules!"
Rush Vogel but the rule is no plays can pass. It’s not about who deserves what in the nfl. It’s about what the rules say. They ran another play, it’s over, and then McAulay had the balls to lie about it when he clearly reaches for his buzzer well after he calls the spike incomplete
It's not often I sympathize with angry fans throwing shit on the field, but man, the Browns got fucking screwed on that one, I can't blame them at all for getting pissed. Utterly baffling to me that the ref crew that bungled this game got to work the Super Bowl that year.
+mcj88 And twice after.
+mcj88 Basically, the refs ignored a rule the NFL put in place and went back after Tim Couch spiked the ball, they said there was that malfunction, but how does that happen in an NFL setting? It was more like they screwed up and didn't want to admit that they did and just did whatever they wanted. Also, those bottles were not plastic like Ian Eagle mistakenly said here, they were glass. Someone also got hit the head with a portable radio and their head got split open. The fact is, you just don't mess with Cleveland sports fan, they have had enough heartbreak in all our history, that when something like this happens they get really mad because it feels as if those Refs did this purposely because they were covering their tails.
Timothy Parry Jr That was Gus Johnson on the call, but you make a good point.
Timothy Parry Jr The call came from upstairs. The refs on the field had to do what was told to them. Browns got screwed. Even if the communications between upstairs to the field malfunctioned, once a play had been run, they should have ate their mistake.
But it was the Brown. It couldn't have happened to a nicer team lol.
Lets be real here. If the right call was the final outcome, the only thing they were cheated out of was the final seconds that was left on the clock when the game was called. And the fans caused that to happen because they couldn't control themselves.
the announcer won't say anything bad about the refs.
12thManInTokyo Randy
They point out that this is the refs fault at 5:20
@@orangesaregood1568 Well Gus does. Randy just bashes the fans
“A camera man is down and his head is spilt wide open” like dude shut the fuck up, that didn’t happen. Imagine being sympathetic to these retarded refs
What? Open your ears. lol. He absolutely rips them.
Coach Coughlin on Jacksonville thats a throwback 💯
Now he's back in Jacksonville.
They'll win a Superbowl once Hurns gets better and Eli signs next year
Pause at 5:30
"HAPPY HOLIDAYS!" while there is a background picture filled with nothing but trash all over the field.....lol
more like CRAPPY holidays...
Wolfman12395 considering we were still dealing with the aftermath of 9/11 just three months after it happened. So much for post sept. 11 perspective.
Happy Holidays: Cleveland Sports Edition
"trash all over the field" that describes every browns home game.
You have excellent eyes to make that out lol
One of the worst calls i can remember as a fan..
The Tuck was 100 times worse, especially given what was on the line THAT game.
@@shakobenmyerz Except the tuck rule was a legitimate call
@@shakobenmyerz tuck rule was a good call (for that season) earlier that year tye same exact thing happened to Kurt Warner. His arm loved forward and the ball came out but the refs called it incomplete just like they did for brady. It was so controversial in the tuck rule game that the rule was removed after that season
@@shakobenmyerz 100 times worse? Oh please...
if a play as been run. you can't review the previous play.
+Anselmo Sedillo I think the most significant thing is that the catch was not actually made, no one seems to talk about that. It being reviewed means nothing if Morgan actually made the catch.
+nick2s No. Them running the play is the significant thing.
Not the case, the fact is that the play was ruled that the ball was not complete and indeed replay supports that finding. People only take issue with the fact that they think there shouldn't have been a review on the play. All they want is a non-catch that was improperly ruled a catch to stay incorrectly ruled a catch. But since it wasn't a catch, the important thing is that it is ruled not a catch, which it was changed to. That is the only significant thing
+cooliovasquez So even though a team doesn't make a catch, they should be rewarded for getting their next play off quickly? Some dumb logic there. The refs reviewed the play and got the call right. Boohoo fucking hoo the Browns didn't get away with not catching the ball.
Yeah, if the league sets a precedent about when a play can or can't be reviewed it needs to always be followed otherwise it's meaningless. Anyway, the browns would probably have still lost, because they're the shitty ol browns.
Haven't seen this old diddy in awhile. I'm a hardcore Stillers fan and even I have to admit, you guys got completely ripped off on this one. Total bullshit.
I would make a joke about being a hardcore "Stillers" fan, but I'm sure you're just a product of your upbringing.
As are you.
steel city Good one. Thanks for proving my point.
thenekom learn to spell Steelers
you can't even spell steelers fan right you dumb fuckin penn state sluck. go fuck yourself i hope pittsburgh burns in hell
And Cleveland was just robbed again today in Oakland. Refs literally took the win away from them after they picked up a first down to close the game. One of the worst calls I've ever seen in my life.
Refs and entire replay crew should have been suspended a week without pay....
colderbeer a week? how bout forever!
CLE was absolutely robbed in this game.
Conor McGregor like you did against Nate Diaz
The Browns were nor robbed because the receiver did not catch the pass. They got what they deserved.
@@robsmith961 but you arent allowed to review a play 2 plays ago so the browns were robbed
@@jamesyhsiao I completely understand, but the refs made a mistake in the first place by saying the Browns receiver caught it. I am not sure how the Browns were robbed when their receiver did not catch the pass on 4th down.
Yes, they were, but still, this crowd was violent. 5:50 This is messed up. Even worse, the Browns Owner after the game said "it's not like it's world war III"
A playoff spot on the line in Cleveland?? Wow, this IS old.
Dirk Gates and they were fighting for a playoff spot against the Jaguars. Shows how different the NFL was in 2001.
Butch Davis was a good coach and Tim Couch was developing nicely back then. A shame the duo didn’t last because things would be different
Because of Butch Davis and Tim Couch. And when Couch got hurt after taking them to the playoffs Kelly Holcomb played well enough to beat Pittsburgh, but Dennis Northcutt dropped the game winning first down and they lost
It's good to look back on this as a Browns fan and just laugh, knowing how much better things would become.
I've never been so pissed watching a Browns game.
After the ruled completed pass, the official failed to notice the booth challenge until after Cleveland ran another play to spike the ball, after which the said previous play could not be challenged. This is what caused Browns fans to practically riot.
That's right. The NFL can't challenge after 2 plays.
"Its getting ugly here in Cleveland." Understatement of the century.
ROFL.
I'm a Cowboys fan and that was wrong, the refs got what they deserved by getting peltted with bottles
Then the cowboys were struck with the refs saying Dez Bryant didn't have possession when he CLEARLY did.
+MoonSoldier64 sure did, even some of my friends that are Packer fans, said Dez and the Cowboys were robbed
I'm a Giants fan so i don't really like Dallas but Dez caught that. With that said, Dallas couldn't stop Rodgers that day so I don't doubt he would've went down the field and won that game
I don't ever call for attacking an official but these guys didn't get nearly what they deserved. They totally screwed the pooch.
+TL2354 I bet that stadium security or Cleveland police had to walk them to their cars that day
I was there, didn't throw anything, but it definitely felt right in that moment. The most personal account of "groupthink" behavior I've ever experienced.
Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio and have been a diehard Browns fan since I was born. To watch these referees make horrible calls and ruin the integrity of football is just sickening and pathetic. They stand for their rules but they will break them and then uphold the rules right after. They are complete hypocrites and should be ashamed of themselves. Nothing will ever justify their actions that happened at bottlegate and these horrible calls are continuing in the year 2019, something has to be done about this they’re ruining the game of football.
I’m a Steelers fan and I’m with you on that I remember this game when I was 14 years old
As a Eagles Fan This Call Was Stupid Without Question!
@Kevin Gonzalez 5 Nice and Awesome Cleveland Fans are So Dumb Throwing Beer Bottles Unlike Us When We Boo LOL!
No one's head was "split open". My brother and I were at this game at closed end of old Municipal Stadium. The announcer who claimed that that happened should have been fired. Never happened.
I was at that game for my 30th birthday, and I have to say two things. 1) GREATEST game I have ever been to. The Municipal lot was even crazier. 2) Only in Cleveland.#216
Yep, ten cent beer night. Something about Cleveland lol.
It's Always Sunny In Cleveland...😆
Somehow I had forgotten Gus Johnson did this game, lol memories #FactoryOfSadness
My dad was at this game. He didn't throw any bottles since he's not a Browns fan but he said the experience was crazy and hilarious
I was there, it was a lot worse than what it shows on here.
Gus McGrizzly like how worse?
Jon Doe are you serious?
Jon Doe lmao omg
i hope there wasnt no jaguars fans in the stadium lol
But the Jaguars didn’t do anything
You hear the Browns cheer."Bulls^&t,bulls^&*t."
I’m a Vikings fan and I don’t blame the Browns fans one bit for their reactions. The Browns ran another play, even if you meant to review it before that, the fact is the players beat you to the punch. You can’t review a previous play. What the officials did was wrong. I felt bad for everyone involved though, I felt bad for the fans who felt cheated, I felt bad the officials who were trying to get out of harms way.
I think things like this is why bad calls usually go in favor of the home team like the Tuck Rule, the Dez Bryant Catch,
Was about to say the same thing too lol. At around the 5 min mark in the clip, they show the main ref (the one in the white cap) watching the play and then signalling an incomplete pass. I think to a lot of people, that's considered another play. If a play is needed to be stopped, like a timeout called or play is being reviewed, I thought the refs usually just try to blow the whistle and wave their arms, even if a play begins (to call the play dead) to stop play and announce whats going on (timeout/review/etc). Here it seemed like the "spiked the ball to stop the clock" play was ran and not blown dead, then after the play was ran, "oh wait" we had a malfunction, the play 2 plays ago is being reviewed, even thought to most, if not all, had/have the understanding that........that can't happen........another play was ran, so.......that shouldn't happen
@Dylan Bimuller that's because the fans were creating a histile environment. People need to control themselves. Oh boo-hoo. Your team lost a game.
vikings fan is irrelevant
from a texans fan this is the most depressing thing I've ever seen in my life
Cleveland fans = best fans
yeah and I am barack obama
+Da Tube see whatcha did there
+Da Tube Go piss on yourself. Unless you've grown up in Cleveland you have no fucking clue
+Damon Blair
Most masochistic bar none
Eis Geist k
An all time classic.
Fucking sad refs can't call a fair game...
That video is a piece of history of Football
Still hurts...... first time I’m rewatching it
The Cleveland Browns will get their day in the sun, just like the Chicago Cubs did this year (2016).
Kelly Donahue or maybe like the cavilers? (2016)
2016 cavs
The sun will burn out before that day comes.
JohnDeereS790Driver lol
I wish the fans jumped on the field and got the refs
It would've been a disaster like the Heysel Disaster
Hurting people because of a silly game. Tremendous idea.
They would get arrested.
It's nice to see that this stuff doesn't just happen in the 20th century
I hate Cleveland and I hate the Browns but damn. This is awful. Just terrible officiating. That game was stolen. I read that the head ref is still in the league. WTF
The ref is Terry McAulay and yes, he's still an NFL ref. In fact, he worked the Steelers/Broncos game this past Sunday.
+Stephen Ward He cheated us
Topdamagewizard got to love browns fans
You live in NO and hate Cleveland and the Browns? Why?
Yep, has even done three Super Bowls in fact!
Watching those refs get pelted with beer bottles ALWAYS brings a smile to my face.. LMAO 😆😂🤣
"Good thing those beer bottles are Plastic..." 🍺
this was crazy. instead of refs being hit with plastic bottles, it should have been rocks.
I would have thrown D-Cell batteries. 🔋
Browns haven't changed a bit from this.
Ravens fan here, this makes me fucking furiouts
"The list" brought me here.
+1
Me too
+helpAHHHH What list?
helpAHHHH TPS brought me here
Of Jericho?
How i feel after we got screwed in oakland today
If it was outside the two minute warning, it would have been awesome for Cleveland to challenge some random-ass play from the second quarter.
There was a repeat of this the following night during MNF by Saints fans after what they thought was a bad call but not nearly as dramatic as this.
Jacksonville must have paid the refs pretty gud that night
Terry McAulay should’ve been fired after this game. Instead he went on to officiate three super bowls. What a pos.
James Lee he’s now a rules analyst for NBC.
He was still better than Walt Coleman at least.
They'll always have my heart.
I actually live near Cleveland, and I'm surprised that this actually happened back when I was only 3 years old. Well, nothing has changed ever since for the Browns.
Raider fan here. I can certainly relate to this injustice. The Browns and their fans got cheated. The officials deserved to get pelted there.
Why, because of the tuck rule? That wasn't an injustice. It was a rule that had been called multiple times that year. If anything the Raiders owed the Pats one for the phantom roughing the passer call in the '76 playoffs.
@Luke(opener): Someone should say to the refs, before they officiate a game, "Remember where you are, and *remember the audience* in front of whom you do your thing."
Bottlegate December 16, 2001. The day post Sept. 11 perspective died.
ericradford2142 What do you mean by "post Sept 11 perspective"? I'm genuinely curious
Go Cardinals when america was united.
ericradford2142 Thanks
I was in NYC in 2005 and ask for direction s from a local and was told to fuck off. People are they way they are and a tragic event like Sept won't change that for long. Compassion is only temporary.
Mike Henry America is a country known for its fads and its tendency to overreact to issues and then forget them as everyday life pushes them into the background.
I remember this game, Refs tried to come up with the "Uuh my buzzer wasn't vibrating properly and/or the replay booth had a malfunction and every excuse they can about something not working.
The NFL rule states: That a play ran before the refs can stop it officially, is considered a played down and the previous down play cannot be reviewed under no circumstances. Unless the ref is stopping it right after the qb snapped it and blew it dead, there's no going back and no Buzzered or Booth can determine that. One of the worst calls in NFL History, because they bent or broke a rule, that cost a team a chance to win. I hope all of them refs got pelted with bottles for that call.
I can't believe they reviewed a play that was 2 plays ago. That should never happen regardless of a error by the officials
that is the end of the game!
32jview hahahahahaha
Literally...🏈😭
Does anyone else hear that bullshit chant?
Hands down thee most egregious call by a NFL Ref ever! It’s 20 years this year, it was horrible then. And it’s still horrible now. I felt so sorry for the Brown Fans after this game. This was the same season of the infamous Tuck Rule! This is the one year the NFL wants people to forget
So much for the lessons and perspective learned from sept. 11 three months earlier. Perspective? What perspective?
+ericradford2142 what's even weirder is the fact that in november 01, there was a charity boxing match for the world trade center relief fund. after the fight, the loser sucker punched the other boxer and broke his jaw. i guess there was a lot of animosity in the air.
+Obama Bin Laden I'd say the unity and togetherness after sept. 11 ended a few months after it happened.
Good for the dawg pound I'd be pissed too
Quite an overreaction to a damn game.
The browns got robbed Go Cleveland
Terry McAulay was the referee in this game...his first season at that position after three years as a side judge.
AMATEUR HOUR. THIS CREW LOST CONTROL OF THE GAME BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE A DAMN CLUE ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AT THE END.
If the refs can end a game because there's trash on the field why aren't all Browns games called at the coin flip?
be glad those bottles were plastic if they were glass the refs would be picking glass out of their empty heads
Well on the bright side, the officials wouldnt have taken any damage because they dont have anything inside their skulls that can be damaged
So I don’t understand the call is possible? Did this set a new precedent in the rules?
I’m watching this right as the final game of the 0-16 season is ending.
and in 2016 so far the Browns are winless
Bryanwny boi we're 1-15
Nov 2017....Browns are winless
Lol you have got to really feel for Browns fans. They should be a lot better after what they did in the off season.
This game should have been awarded to the Browns. Refs blew It and violated NFL Rules. Clear as day. If they can go back multiple plays to change things, then the NFL (if they had any guts) could go back and award the victory to the Browns. DISGRACEFUL! Those refs are lucky they weren't mobbed and beaten for that despicable action. Don't forget Ten Cent Beer Night Riot in Cleveland (1974 Cleveland Indian game). BTW -- Art Modell Rot in Hell!
MKIVWWI What...? How can you award the win to Cleveland when 1. They're not even winning the game, and 2. What have Jacksonville done wrong to be awarded a loss??? It's not their fault the referee's completely fucked up so why should they be punished?
Don't ever enter politics please.
So the Jaguars should lose a game with playoff implications because of officiating bs?
Dylan Bimuller they should got back one next day or 2 in front of the empty stadium and reply the last 48sec.
that's a pretty good point.
What a travesty! Each one of those beers cost about 15 dollars!
Happy 15th Anniversary, Bottlegate!
"fortunatly those bottles are plastic"?😂 2:27
Well would you rather get hit by a glass bottle?
B717 thats why he said FORTUNATELY
I cringed when I heard Brent Jones's voice again. I despised him as an analyst. He and Randy Cross were (and still are) the bottom of the barrel to me. Fox has had its fair share of crap, but I root for an AFC team and therefore had to deal with those two neanderthals for years.
Troy Aikman? Honestly, Aikman is worse...
Sorry, but I'm 100% positive it's Brent. Randy's voice is deeper and has more of a drawl. I had to deal with these two turds for season after season. Their voices are etched into my head like festering sores. Each of them has a video on TH-cam of them speaking for reference. Amazingly Randy is still an analyst for college games on CBS Sports Network. But thankfully for me he only calls games I never have any vested interest in. BTW I see you're in Japan. I lived there for awhile and will likely return at some point. It felt kinda odd for nearly every week to be Monday Night Football (I'd download the game after returning home from work).
I'm no Aikman fan, but he doesn't agitate me the way Brent and Randy did. Their piousness was insufferable. But I can generally avoid Aikman's broadcasts. If I rooted for a NFC team and was stuck with Fox most of the time, my opinion would likely be different.
12thManInTokyo this is absolutely Brent Jones their voices aren’t even close. Randy Cross was doing a different game with dick enberg or Verne lundquist or someone
@@searinggaspainland Troy Aikman, along with Joe Buck, are now at ESPN.
That moment when Butch Davis probably realized leaving the 'Canes for the Browns was a big mistake
Fans did the right thing here. If not for them, the NFL would still be waffling around about whether or not a malfunction means you can go back and review a play after another play has been run.
And ever since that day, the Browns organization has never been the same..
What are you talking about? They have been inconsistent ever since they returned to the NFL in 1999.
Very poor officiating, They deserved to be suspended
I hope those officials were fired and never allowed to officiate any more games after this.
Two things referees should remember before officiating a game...
1) Remember where you are.
AND
2) *Consider the audience* in front of whom you perform your tasks.
The most horseshit call I've ever seen in the NFL. The refs pretty much just made up their own rules here.
Terry Mcauley is a super bowl worthy ref. he has reffed numerous playoff games and Head reffed Super Bowl 43. He did a good job, and as a Steeler fan who has seen many horrible calls against us, that was a logical and safe call. Browns fans should have controlled themselves.
That's horse shit. I'm a steelers fan as well, and it's fucking obvious that the browns got completely fucked over by shit refs.
Sean, quit using the refs as an excuse for losing. Dont get me wrong, I am very empathetic to the browns, but if you cant score more than 13 points in a game against one of the worst defenses in football, then you dont deserve to win.
my point is, score more points and this never happens.
Alex Fullmer score more points? how the fuck are they supposed to do that when they get down to the 10 yd line when the refs suddenly just say fuck you browns and force a turnover on downs. It's kind of score when whenever you get in position to score you get fucked!
Wonder how much the refs got paid for this?
Animemaster2400 jags had no reason to win this... The ended the season 6-10
Butch Davis was thinking, "I should have stayed in Miami"
Apparently the buzz to review the play occurred right before the ball was snapped, but the refs were unable to stop the play before it was snapped.
Honestly, the refs deserved it.
This was the dumbest event in sports ever, WHEN A PLAY IS RAN YOU CANNOT REVIEW THE LAST! it is an official rule of the NFL, and everyone knows it. The only reason tim couch spiked it was because he knew that the whistle blew. Ya see, HE followed the rules, dont even get me started on the fans. Fine. So you want me to get started on the fans aye? WHERE DID THE BOTTLES EVEN COME FROM!!!!! I wonder if people paid money just to throw them. It could have been a really good game too. What a shame that the Browns suck so much the refs hate them now.
if there was a malfunction and there was no rule covering it then there should be no exceptions to the rule
As a jags fan I felt terrible for Cleveland. We didn't deserve to win and Cleveland didn't deserve that.