I mean, it IS possible to side-dodge a thrust, and a cut too. But aikido training metodology is not useful for learning that, more, its harmful, because it teaches reacting to wrong stimuli (in combat most aikidoka would be super-vulnerable to every feint, that for fencer is stimulus for counterattack).
Yeah that's true. If the dodger has a sword he can counterattack and dodge simultaniously, which means there is no time for the attacker to adapt. However, it is high risk high reward kinda fencing.
The little sketch from minute one ongoing does have criticism in it, but it was not intended to insinuate any ill intent on their side. I just did it for comedic purposes.
There are instances where you can actually kinda dodge an attack. The thing is, that you have very little time to riposte/you need to cut your opponent very fast. You yourself need a sword though then you can do this. Still risky, but doable. If you don't have a swors: by the time you try to reach your opponent he will have cut you down. He only needs to move his sword another time, you your whole body.
@@petritzky Im aware of that. The problem with aikido in general is that it is very misunderstunded and aikido practitioners and teachers doesnt make that easyer. This what was shown here was not final technique or not even technique showed in slow motion. That was preparation to understand basic idea. Aikido is very demanding and difficult mostly because this art is not based on natural human reactions. First years of training are dedicsted to loose this natural instinctife reaction and replace it with lerned ones. That allows you to imply aikido techniqies in proper way. Good aikido is quite sneaky. Every technique is some kind of trick but to do aikido in this way certain atitude diuring training is required and it is mostly rarity in aikido world.
@@Vatras888 that could be, but then to sell them as samurai techniques is a bold move. I don't know that much about Aikido. I just thought what they have shown was funny. It could be that it is to learn those other basic moves, but like I said. Then you can't sell them as something different.
@@petritzky Well... I think no one who prectise aikido truly can call it samurai techniques. Fragment of film that you used was from some Japanese-American couple yotube chanel. They might have this image of aikido as practical art. Many people share this miscoception from Steaven Seagal movies where aikido is shown as deadly hand to hand system best siuted to fight with Russian mafia armed with guns and knives. In fact aikido as one of Japanese Budo arts is way to develop good memtal, spiritual and psychological quolities. By training HEMA or boxing you can also achive it but it is side effect. Boxers or HEMA pracritioners are focused on effectivness of thier technique. Good techniqie and use of it is a purpouse. In Budo as aikido or kendo we practise our techniques in non utylitarian way because technique and form is not a goal of our prectise but a tool to achive somerhing diferent. Of course it is quite rare opinion and great part of aikido practitioners will disagree. You know... Steaven Seagal films. .. they want to be samurais with deadly skills by pracrising semi meditational peacefull martial arts....
@@Vatras888 yeah, look in the video description. I more or less wrote the same there. Though I might have gotten something wrong. But in essence it is not about beeing an effective martial art, but about growing spiritually as far as I'm concerned.
entiendo la idea del video y me parecio muy graciosa xd pero lo hacian mal incluso parece a propocito por que literal pone el brazo, de que te sirve poner el brazo si es una espada te corta igual pero muy bueno el video xd
its hilarious :D
Aikido is nonsense in terms of self-defense or any Martial Arts about Duells.
But in Mental terms it is fine and grounding.
100% agree
I mean, it IS possible to side-dodge a thrust, and a cut too. But aikido training metodology is not useful for learning that, more, its harmful, because it teaches reacting to wrong stimuli (in combat most aikidoka would be super-vulnerable to every feint, that for fencer is stimulus for counterattack).
Yeah that's true. If the dodger has a sword he can counterattack and dodge simultaniously, which means there is no time for the attacker to adapt. However, it is high risk high reward kinda fencing.
The little sketch from minute one ongoing does have criticism in it, but it was not intended to insinuate any ill intent on their side. I just did it for comedic purposes.
i dont buy it :D
@@ochs-hema i think the youtuber pair actually doesn't know any better.
The sensei should however
Well I think it was more about to show the idea of avoiding the hit than acual technique.
There are instances where you can actually kinda dodge an attack. The thing is, that you have very little time to riposte/you need to cut your opponent very fast. You yourself need a sword though then you can do this. Still risky, but doable.
If you don't have a swors: by the time you try to reach your opponent he will have cut you down. He only needs to move his sword another time, you your whole body.
@@petritzky Im aware of that. The problem with aikido in general is that it is very misunderstunded and aikido practitioners and teachers doesnt make that easyer. This what was shown here was not final technique or not even technique showed in slow motion. That was preparation to understand basic idea. Aikido is very demanding and difficult mostly because this art is not based on natural human reactions. First years of training are dedicsted to loose this natural instinctife reaction and replace it with lerned ones. That allows you to imply aikido techniqies in proper way. Good aikido is quite sneaky. Every technique is some kind of trick but to do aikido in this way certain atitude diuring training is required and it is mostly rarity in aikido world.
@@Vatras888 that could be, but then to sell them as samurai techniques is a bold move.
I don't know that much about Aikido. I just thought what they have shown was funny. It could be that it is to learn those other basic moves, but like I said. Then you can't sell them as something different.
@@petritzky Well... I think no one who prectise aikido truly can call it samurai techniques. Fragment of film that you used was from some Japanese-American couple yotube chanel. They might have this image of aikido as practical art. Many people share this miscoception from Steaven Seagal movies where aikido is shown as deadly hand to hand system best siuted to fight with Russian mafia armed with guns and knives. In fact aikido as one of Japanese Budo arts is way to develop good memtal, spiritual and psychological quolities. By training HEMA or boxing you can also achive it but it is side effect. Boxers or HEMA pracritioners are focused on effectivness of thier technique. Good techniqie and use of it is a purpouse. In Budo as aikido or kendo we practise our techniques in non utylitarian way because technique and form is not a goal of our prectise but a tool to achive somerhing diferent.
Of course it is quite rare opinion and great part of aikido practitioners will disagree. You know... Steaven Seagal films.
.. they want to be samurais with deadly skills by pracrising semi meditational peacefull martial arts....
@@Vatras888 yeah, look in the video description. I more or less wrote the same there. Though I might have gotten something wrong.
But in essence it is not about beeing an effective martial art, but about growing spiritually as far as I'm concerned.
Absolutely love this video
entiendo la idea del video y me parecio muy graciosa xd pero lo hacian mal incluso parece a propocito por que literal pone el brazo, de que te sirve poner el brazo si es una espada te corta igual pero muy bueno el video xd
LMAO