WHAT? P2 IS THE MOST POWERFUL LOCO IN BRITAIN, IT WAS SAID AT ITS OWN WEBSITE, THE PRINCE OF WALES IS ABOUT TO BE BUILD AND IT IS A NEW BUILD, SO YOU'RE WRONG
The P2s were not the most powerful. They may have had the highest tractive effort but the title of most powerful goes to the LMS Princess Coronations. The Princess Coronations have the highest officially recorded horse power of any British steam locomotive. 71000 Duke of Gloucester has been calculated to have exceeded even the mighty Princess Coronations. So we will see if the boiler on the new P2 is capable of steaming at a rate to challenge the afore mentioned.
Thompson gets an unfair reputation from the railway community, but to be fair, he did kinda do the P2s a favour in therms of reliability. I’m excited to see Prince of Wales once he’s out and running.
If I am correct Thompson was the son in law of Stanier,who had a deep grudge against SNG as he was overlooked for the job at LNER hence Thompson ruined some of Gresleys best work as an act of revenge
@@MichaelCampin firstly, he was actually the son-in-law of Vincent Raven. Secondly, I don’t entirely know how true the part of him being overlooked is, but he didn’t try to ruin Gresley’s locomotives. He was running the LNER during the war so they didn’t have as much money as they needed so Thompson recommended making his locomotives as cheap and efficient as possible. If anything the P2’s reliability issues were cured from this rebuild of his.
Fascinating video! I have to say, the LNER P2 Mikados really are stellar looking designs despite some mechanical problems they had in the making, and even Edward Thompson (who I resented the man) didn't help matters. I am looking forward to seeing Prince of Wales being completed in the near future. It's great that replicas of an existing steam locomotive class are being built.
James had an extended running board and improved brakes, yet he's still nothing compared to the P2s. Also the LMS Jubilee is an example of a failed engine fixed into something much more.
Thomas was likely rebuilt from his original E2 configuration when he arrived on Sodor to be more reliable, and later had his front running board flattened, yet he's got nothing on the P2s either.
Phew, that was exhaustingly fast! The P2s were unsuccessful for many reasons and the Thompson rebuild resulted in a more reliable engine with a higher percentage of availability. Can't see the point of building a replica of a failure when there are many other suitable LNER/pre-grouping candidates.
Point of order, David Elliott who designed Tornado and who sadly passed away last week, also did the designs for 2007 Prince of Wales. David had a deep understanding of the inherent technical problems of 2001 Cock o' the North, not just the problematic pony truck but the Lentz rotary valve gear. He corrected and improved the original Gresley design before any metal was cut. 2007 will be a fitting improved version of the original P2. Once completed its availability should be just as good as Tornado's.
Thanks for the update. So sorry to hear of Mr Elliott's passing. I'm sure the P2 will be a tremendous success, just as Tornado has been, and I look forward to seeing it run.
The LNER P2's were locomotives that pulled TRAINS. And not to mention there were probably thousands of locomotives stronger than the P2. For gods sake the LNER built the U1, it was stronger than the P2 and it lasted longer in service.
The editing was so well done and professional. Greeley’s design of the P2 was really close once he had the A4 front and Walshaerts valve gear. The main issues are that the crank wasn’t strong enough for the might of the loco and a small issue in his swing link design. The former is a simple fix (just like the other issues that arose from trying to keep weight down), but I don’t know how anyone has missed the issue/potential for the swing link. In its original form, it acts as a parallelogram, but if it was a trapezium, it could tilt the loco slightly by pushing down on the outside wheel in a curve, putting down more force where it is needed. Ps, wow this comment was longer than intended!
I’m really looking forward to seeing 2007 Prince of Wales, there’s a speculation that the construction will be complete as well as the locomotive entering service in 2025. But for now, I’m looking forward to Tornado’s return to service from her overhaul in Spring 2024.
I was at the A1 Trust HQ last weekend. 2007 is coming along nicely. Cylinder block is there now, tender frames and boiler due within the next month, track laying and earthworks for the turntable will continue over the next months also. The trust will shortly be starting the funding programme for the final major component the valve gear 🙂 Tornado is in Loughborough and won’t be long until she’s back too.
Short, sweet and to the point strikes again. I have only somewhat recently learned about them but never really got a straight answer as to why they weren't as successful as they should've been on paper: this is the first time I'm hearing of the trouble with the front pony truck. Regardless, I'm really looking forward to Prince of Wales' completion, and fingers crossed for the Cock O' The North rebuild, which I'm only just hearing of. Also, Earl Marischal is officially my favorite P2: it's number 2002 was the year I was born. :D
Thanks for uploading this collection of clips. It's good to have them in one place. p.s. I'm sure you know that there is a difference between a "train" and a "locomotive" or "engine". The loco' or engine is the motive force for the train. The train comprises carriages and/or freight wagons attached to the loco' or engine. I hope your exams are coming along well.
Water-tube boilers were also tried on the Baltimore & Ohio and I think, the Delaware & Hudson. Like Duplex drive, they never lived up to the hopes of their designers. It would be interesting if there ever was one successful water-tube locomotive. For some reason, water-tube boilers work well in stationary and marine applications, but not on trains.
Nice video but I feel that its a bit too fast paced, I lost track of what you were talking about and then when I picked it up again you were talking about design issues
Actually the London North Eastern Railway class U1 garratt locomotive is the strongest British steam locomotive with a tractive effort effort of 72,940 lbf (324,500 N) while the P2's tractive effort was 43,462 lbf (193.33 kN) and even then they weren't the most powerful passenger engines in the UK that honor goes to the London and North Eastern really class W1 AK the hush hush specifically in its rebuild streamlined shape because the tractive effort it had was Original Shape: 32,000 lbf (142.3 kN) Rebuilt Shape: 41,437 lbf (184.3 kN) officially making it the most powerful non-article locomotive in the UK while the U1 guard is the most powerful steam locomotive in the UK in general.
It's nice to hear that the LNER P2 is being brought back from extinction with the class's newest installment Prince of Wales #2007, hopefully Prince of Wales will have some improvements to fix the flaws that the first six had especially with their leading pony truck. As for the Cock o' The North replica well you did say they have been while for a couple of years now so i do believe Prince of Wales will be ready for operation before the Cock o' The North replica ever gets finished which excites me even more. Fun Fact: There was actually going to be a new LNER I1 4-8-2 mountain type, it may even solve the flaws on the leading pony truck that the P2s had. Unfortunately due to WW2, it never became a reality. I bet if Prince of Wales goes smoothly once it's fully build and operational, then there's a slight chance we might get a LNER I1 in the future. Then eventually, there will even be a LNER streamlined 4-8-4 northern which is what Burt Spencer drew up.
Don’t worry the trust is very much redesigning parts of 2007 to iron out initial design flaws (Front pony truck, crank axle, slimmer cylinder block and adjustments for the 118 diagram boiler, using a modified version of the Franklin Lens type B valve gear etc etc. 🙂 Their website has detailed sections of all the changes to create the next in class.
@@mikesanders5433 Well in that case, i can't wait to see how Prince of Wales will compete against the diesels let alone outperform them. Maybe even give Flying Scotsman, LNER A4s, Br standard class 9Fs, LMS Black Fives, and Duke of Gloucester a run for their money.
@@EllieMaes-Grandad As i said before, they have been quiet (even if it says while) for a couple of years now and i did say that Prince of Wales will definitely be fully build and operational before the Cock o' The North replica would ever be. and while Prince of Wales will basically be the most modern steam locomotive currently with all the advanced technologies and improvements that the original six could've got (but was sadly scrapped), The Cock o' The North replica will just be the exact version of what Cock o' The North is and what was before improvements came to be.
Going back to the two new P2s, I believe that progress is going very slow on the 2001 replica because everyone is looking forward to 2007 “Prince of Wales”. I won’t be surprised when / if they announce they are cancelling the project. They could be waiting until 2007 is complete in 2025 before they restart the progress on 2001
The A1 Trust and Doncaster group are two separate entities with no ties (but a lot of negative attitude from one towards the other) You’ll see the A1 Trust complete 2007 and 3403 Highlander and probably have overhauled Tornado again before there’s any significant progress with the 2001 replica in Doncaster 😂
@@mikesanders5433yes, I know. TBH I don’t see the point to have 2 P2s. It would be nice to have a replica of a sole surviving class like the Gresley A1/A3.
To be fair I don’t know if we really need a second new P2. Prince of Wales is going to rectify the faults the originals had and is going to be popular enough.
2:33 This is a common misconception about the A2/2s and it's blatantly false. Thane of Fife was the first of the class to be rebuilt and after a year or so in service it was authorized that the 5 remaining P2s were to be rebuilt to the same design as to quote the LNER Board meeting notes "The converted engine[Thane of Fife] has now been in service for some time, and has proven entirely satisfactory in that it has not only been able to handle loads at least equal to the stipulated maxinum load of the P2 class, on the Edinburgh and Aberdeen section but it has also been remarkable free from mechanical trouble". The A2/2s were not perfect machines but they were still good capable engines and did good work until they were witthdrawn. Taken from Epsiode 5 of the Railway Mania Podcast. 29:47 th-cam.com/video/AsY6AW5Ts08/w-d-xo.html
Why is it in the titles to most of these locomotive videos the said locomotive is called a train, the train is what the locomotive pulls? I do however enjoy these videos.
Not sure why they didn't just make it a 4-8-2 during the rebuild instead of a 4-6-2. No sense having that much power on tap if you can't make full use of it.
Not going to lie if you do anything on American steam engines I hope you could do something with the articulated locomotives in this production style because I love it
Technically five as it had caprotti valve gear with water heater and a token exchange then it was rebuilt with walschaerts valve gear and had It’s heater and tokens remeoved
There's so insanely little footage of the p2's and absolutely none of any wheelslip, so I just used footage of tornado for that but to emphasize my point haha
"Most Powerful Steam Locomotive in the World"? Well I guess if the whole world is just the British Isles then... sure? 🤣 The P2 is an impressive design for getting all that power out of the constraints of the tight loading gauge along with its rapid experimental history, but there are plenty of locomotives on the US, Soviet Union and even continental European lines which could have yanked the buffer beam right off a P2 if we're comparing tractive effort and horsepower. Even ignoring multiple engine articulated and turbines, we have fixed single engine designs such as the UP 9000 class (which admittedly has a touch of Gresley influence, using a licensed version of his triple cylinder valve gear system) that could put down 96,646 lbf of tractive effort.
Technically 4 as it had caprotti valve gear with water cheater and a token exchange then it was rebuilt with walschaerts valve gear and had It’s heater and tokens removed
Should've mentioned it in the vid! Shame I missed it but thanks for the info haha. Also I wouldn't count that as a full rebuild so as to speak, as much as some minor adjustments
I'm going to be honest, although were very strong, I doubt that one of those could out pull a big boy. So no, it is not the strongest locomotive in the world.
the p2 was never the strongest locomotive in the world, its a weakling compared to most heavy duty stuff out of britain, heck a K-37 almost has the same amount of tractive effort and thats a narrow gauge engine
As I've said before, my vids aren't inherently made for train fans, also the general public, so I just simplified the wording in the title for that purpose
Apologies i made an error! The p2 was not the most powerful in the world, only in Britain 😅. Thanks for correcting me lol
Also the title was steam train the train isn't steam only the locomotive or engine
WHAT?
P2 IS THE MOST POWERFUL LOCO IN BRITAIN, IT WAS SAID AT ITS OWN WEBSITE, THE PRINCE OF WALES IS ABOUT TO BE BUILD AND IT IS A NEW BUILD, SO YOU'RE WRONG
So what happend to the Princess Coronations then ?
There are clips on this very platform of the superb model of Bugatti nosed No.2006 'Wolf of Badenoch' in 5in gauge. Very impressive it is too.
The P2s were not the most powerful. They may have had the highest tractive effort but the title of most powerful goes to the LMS Princess Coronations. The Princess Coronations have the highest officially recorded horse power of any British steam locomotive. 71000 Duke of Gloucester has been calculated to have exceeded even the mighty Princess Coronations. So we will see if the boiler on the new P2 is capable of steaming at a rate to challenge the afore mentioned.
Thompson gets an unfair reputation from the railway community, but to be fair, he did kinda do the P2s a favour in therms of reliability. I’m excited to see Prince of Wales once he’s out and running.
Thompson was not Anti-Gresley. He was a engineer who believe in reducing the time a locomotive was in for maintanece and making them more efficient.
In all fairness like the a1 trust is doing, a simple redesign was all that was really needed. Not complete rebuilds.
He was and openly admitted it because his father in law never got the head job with the LNER@@vectorbrony3473
If I am correct Thompson was the son in law of Stanier,who had a deep grudge against SNG as he was overlooked for the job at LNER hence Thompson ruined some of Gresleys best work as an act of revenge
@@MichaelCampin firstly, he was actually the son-in-law of Vincent Raven.
Secondly, I don’t entirely know how true the part of him being overlooked is, but he didn’t try to ruin Gresley’s locomotives. He was running the LNER during the war so they didn’t have as much money as they needed so Thompson recommended making his locomotives as cheap and efficient as possible. If anything the P2’s reliability issues were cured from this rebuild of his.
A stellar video, we have here! Always was curious about all those rebuilds…
Fascinating video! I have to say, the LNER P2 Mikados really are stellar looking designs despite some mechanical problems they had in the making, and even Edward Thompson (who I resented the man) didn't help matters.
I am looking forward to seeing Prince of Wales being completed in the near future. It's great that replicas of an existing steam locomotive class are being built.
He didn’t really resent Gresley.
Henry: I’ve got two shapes
The first two P2s: Hold my coal
Hahaha
James had an extended running board and improved brakes, yet he's still nothing compared to the P2s.
Also the LMS Jubilee is an example of a failed engine fixed into something much more.
Thomas was likely rebuilt from his original E2 configuration when he arrived on Sodor to be more reliable, and later had his front running board flattened, yet he's got nothing on the P2s either.
Phew, that was exhaustingly fast! The P2s were unsuccessful for many reasons and the Thompson rebuild resulted in a more reliable engine with a higher percentage of availability. Can't see the point of building a replica of a failure when there are many other suitable LNER/pre-grouping candidates.
Point of order, David Elliott who designed Tornado and who sadly passed away last week, also did the designs for 2007 Prince of Wales. David had a deep understanding of the inherent technical problems of 2001 Cock o' the North, not just the problematic pony truck but the Lentz rotary valve gear. He corrected and improved the original Gresley design before any metal was cut. 2007 will be a fitting improved version of the original P2. Once completed its availability should be just as good as Tornado's.
Thanks for the update. So sorry to hear of Mr Elliott's passing. I'm sure the P2 will be a tremendous success, just as Tornado has been, and I look forward to seeing it run.
The LNER P2's were locomotives that pulled TRAINS. And not to mention there were probably thousands of locomotives stronger than the P2. For gods sake the LNER built the U1, it was stronger than the P2 and it lasted longer in service.
Why does nobody have a problem with the Unlucky Tug calling them Trains though?
Great video mate short but informational :) (I was the guy who previously had the idea for the Barry ten locomotives and where they are now )
The editing was so well done and professional. Greeley’s design of the P2 was really close once he had the A4 front and Walshaerts valve gear. The main issues are that the crank wasn’t strong enough for the might of the loco and a small issue in his swing link design. The former is a simple fix (just like the other issues that arose from trying to keep weight down), but I don’t know how anyone has missed the issue/potential for the swing link. In its original form, it acts as a parallelogram, but if it was a trapezium, it could tilt the loco slightly by pushing down on the outside wheel in a curve, putting down more force where it is needed. Ps, wow this comment was longer than intended!
I’m really looking forward to seeing 2007 Prince of Wales, there’s a speculation that the construction will be complete as well as the locomotive entering service in 2025. But for now, I’m looking forward to Tornado’s return to service from her overhaul in Spring 2024.
Me too haha
I was at the A1 Trust HQ last weekend.
2007 is coming along nicely. Cylinder block is there now, tender frames and boiler due within the next month, track laying and earthworks for the turntable will continue over the next months also.
The trust will shortly be starting the funding programme for the final major component the valve gear 🙂
Tornado is in Loughborough and won’t be long until she’s back too.
Another incredible video dude 🙌
🙏
i love P2's always happy to see a video about them
I would like to see a tug-of-war between the P2 and say a 9F or a King class!
Short, sweet and to the point strikes again. I have only somewhat recently learned about them but never really got a straight answer as to why they weren't as successful as they should've been on paper: this is the first time I'm hearing of the trouble with the front pony truck. Regardless, I'm really looking forward to Prince of Wales' completion, and fingers crossed for the Cock O' The North rebuild, which I'm only just hearing of. Also, Earl Marischal is officially my favorite P2: it's number 2002 was the year I was born. :D
Very fascinating info
I always thought the P2 looked strange
You're going places man! Keep up the good work!
It is not a train........it is a locomotive......get it right!
no
The Unlucky Tug: *calls them trains*
Anyone else: *also calls them trains*
TTTE fans: THEY’RE NOT TRAINS! TRAINS ARE WHAT THEY PULL! DO SOME RESEARCH!
So entertaining, I'm definitely subscribing
Wow! Another smashing video!
Thanks for uploading this collection of clips. It's good to have them in one place.
p.s. I'm sure you know that there is a difference between a "train" and a "locomotive" or "engine". The loco' or engine is the motive force for the train. The train comprises carriages and/or freight wagons attached to the loco' or engine.
I hope your exams are coming along well.
I've got 2 models of P2s one as built and one Streamlined
It is a locomotive, a train is what a locomotive pulls, ie carriages or wagons
Water-tube boilers were also tried on the Baltimore & Ohio and I think, the Delaware & Hudson. Like Duplex drive, they never lived up to the hopes of their designers. It would be interesting if there ever was one successful water-tube locomotive. For some reason, water-tube boilers work well in stationary and marine applications, but not on trains.
The P2 Class Dilemma May Finally End. (Cock O The North. I Can't.)
That’s heck of a story
0:59 This Locomotive Cock O The North Is A Bit Like Flying Scotsman. Happy Christmas Mate. X
Merry Christmas to you too!
Nice video but I feel that its a bit too fast paced, I lost track of what you were talking about and then when I picked it up again you were talking about design issues
It's sad that the p2s were scrapped, can't wait for Prince of Wales to be finished
Actually the London North Eastern Railway class U1 garratt locomotive is the strongest British steam locomotive with a tractive effort effort of 72,940 lbf (324,500 N) while the P2's tractive effort was 43,462 lbf (193.33 kN) and even then they weren't the most powerful passenger engines in the UK that honor goes to the London and North Eastern really class W1 AK the hush hush specifically in its rebuild streamlined shape because the tractive effort it had was Original Shape: 32,000 lbf (142.3 kN)
Rebuilt Shape: 41,437 lbf (184.3 kN) officially making it the most powerful non-article locomotive in the UK while the U1 guard is the most powerful steam locomotive in the UK in general.
It's nice to hear that the LNER P2 is being brought back from extinction with the class's newest installment Prince of Wales #2007, hopefully Prince of Wales will have some improvements to fix the flaws that the first six had especially with their leading pony truck. As for the Cock o' The North replica well you did say they have been while for a couple of years now so i do believe Prince of Wales will be ready for operation before the Cock o' The North replica ever gets finished which excites me even more.
Fun Fact: There was actually going to be a new LNER I1 4-8-2 mountain type, it may even solve the flaws on the leading pony truck that the P2s had. Unfortunately due to WW2, it never became a reality. I bet if Prince of Wales goes smoothly once it's fully build and operational, then there's a slight chance we might get a LNER I1 in the future. Then eventually, there will even be a LNER streamlined 4-8-4 northern which is what Burt Spencer drew up.
Don’t worry the trust is very much redesigning parts of 2007 to iron out initial design flaws (Front pony truck, crank axle, slimmer cylinder block and adjustments for the 118 diagram boiler, using a modified version of the Franklin Lens type B valve gear etc etc. 🙂
Their website has detailed sections of all the changes to create the next in class.
@@mikesanders5433 Well in that case, i can't wait to see how Prince of Wales will compete against the diesels let alone outperform them. Maybe even give Flying Scotsman, LNER A4s, Br standard class 9Fs, LMS Black Fives, and Duke of Gloucester a run for their money.
Cock o' The North replica? No chance . . .
@@EllieMaes-Grandad As i said before, they have been quiet (even if it says while) for a couple of years now and i did say that Prince of Wales will definitely be fully build and operational before the Cock o' The North replica would ever be. and while Prince of Wales will basically be the most modern steam locomotive currently with all the advanced technologies and improvements that the original six could've got (but was sadly scrapped), The Cock o' The North replica will just be the exact version of what Cock o' The North is and what was before improvements came to be.
You're talking aspirations . . . . I talk finance. @@matthewpastrikos7383
Indeed, the A4's look very "snazy" 😎
Going back to the two new P2s, I believe that progress is going very slow on the 2001 replica because everyone is looking forward to 2007 “Prince of Wales”.
I won’t be surprised when / if they announce they are cancelling the project. They could be waiting until 2007 is complete in 2025 before they restart the progress on 2001
Valid points, hadn't thought of that!
The A1 Trust and Doncaster group are two separate entities with no ties (but a lot of negative attitude from one towards the other)
You’ll see the A1 Trust complete 2007 and 3403 Highlander and probably have overhauled Tornado again before there’s any significant progress with the 2001 replica in Doncaster 😂
@@mikesanders5433yes, I know. TBH I don’t see the point to have 2 P2s. It would be nice to have a replica of a sole surviving class like the Gresley A1/A3.
To be fair I don’t know if we really need a second new P2. Prince of Wales is going to rectify the faults the originals had and is going to be popular enough.
They always come back
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. It needed a worthington SA feedwater heater and an American style mechanical stoker.
2:33 This is a common misconception about the A2/2s and it's blatantly false. Thane of Fife was the first of the class to be rebuilt and after a year or so in service it was authorized that the 5 remaining P2s were to be rebuilt to the same design as to quote the LNER Board meeting notes "The converted engine[Thane of Fife] has now been in service for some time, and has proven entirely satisfactory in that it has not only been able to handle loads at least equal to the stipulated maxinum load of the P2 class, on the Edinburgh and Aberdeen section but it has also been remarkable free from mechanical trouble". The A2/2s were not perfect machines but they were still good capable engines and did good work until they were witthdrawn.
Taken from Epsiode 5 of the Railway Mania Podcast. 29:47
th-cam.com/video/AsY6AW5Ts08/w-d-xo.html
About P2 prince of wales... hook that thing up to a dynamometer carriage when its restored and try to shatter mallard
It will have cost enough to build - no sense spending more just to repair it . . . . it's all about power, not speed.
Why is it in the titles to most of these locomotive videos the said locomotive is called a train, the train is what the locomotive pulls? I do however enjoy these videos.
Why does the Unlucky Tug sometimes call them trains?
Not sure why they didn't just make it a 4-8-2 during the rebuild instead of a 4-6-2. No sense having that much power on tap if you can't make full use of it.
may have been a matter of using existing boiler designs rather than having to design something bigger
I have a question. I like Thomas and all, but I’d like to get into real trains… how would i gather all this knowledge and stuff?
Just read about it I guess lol or watch documentaries abt them
Not going to lie if you do anything on American steam engines I hope you could do something with the articulated locomotives in this production style because I love it
Even better if you do something on the Garrett's exported from the UK.
Technically five as it had caprotti valve gear with water heater and a token exchange then it was rebuilt with walschaerts valve gear and had
It’s heater and tokens remeoved
Hello Tons of Trackmaster
Uhh i think that p2 is a A2
Please make more videos like this ❤❤
coming up!
Well, Gordon is a LNER A1 Pacific
Has it ever occurred to you that viewers might actually want a moment to absorb your fast-changing imagery?
If you have a story to tell, sloe down!
Streamlining was the ultimate solution
Why show Tornado when you are talking about a P2
There's so insanely little footage of the p2's and absolutely none of any wheelslip, so I just used footage of tornado for that but to emphasize my point haha
my favourite P2 is Prince of Wales
Tons of Trackmasters? Is that you?
It is indeed
@@OnlyTheRightTrack I am a psychic lol
Rebuilt 3 times, or built, then rebuilt twice?
"Most Powerful Steam Locomotive in the World"? Well I guess if the whole world is just the British Isles then... sure? 🤣
The P2 is an impressive design for getting all that power out of the constraints of the tight loading gauge along with its rapid experimental history, but there are plenty of locomotives on the US, Soviet Union and even continental European lines which could have yanked the buffer beam right off a P2 if we're comparing tractive effort and horsepower. Even ignoring multiple engine articulated and turbines, we have fixed single engine designs such as the UP 9000 class (which admittedly has a touch of Gresley influence, using a licensed version of his triple cylinder valve gear system) that could put down 96,646 lbf of tractive effort.
No.2001 had the most embarrassing name, did it.
Technically 4 as it had caprotti valve gear with water cheater and a token exchange then it was rebuilt with walschaerts valve gear and had
It’s heater and tokens removed
Should've mentioned it in the vid! Shame I missed it but thanks for the info haha. Also I wouldn't count that as a full rebuild so as to speak, as much as some minor adjustments
@@OnlyTheRightTrackmmmh yes, replacing the entirety of the valvegear definitely counts as a "minor adjustment"! 🙃
@@lorenzosdeadchannel still not a full 'cosmetic' rebuild I think
Anyone else hope the Cock of the North rebuild is named Cock of the South?
@wildwind4137 No, just you…
Holly! You Sound Older!
i do tend to age haha
Could you do a video on the W1?
sure
@@OnlyTheRightTrack
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@@AW.Dry_and_Co. coming today or tomorrow! Keep your eyes peeled!
@@OnlyTheRightTrack okie dokie!!!
0:13 im sorry what!
Hmmm is it just me or does he sound like Tons Of Trackmaster?
We are one and the same
Oh
I'm going to be honest, although were very strong, I doubt that one of those could out pull a big boy. So no, it is not the strongest locomotive in the world.
LOCOMOTIVE
Is it just me or does he sound older 👀
I do tend to age lol
Mmmm delicious 😋
the p2 was never the strongest locomotive in the world, its a weakling compared to most heavy duty stuff out of britain, heck a K-37 almost has the same amount of tractive effort and thats a narrow gauge engine
You can't even get the video title right!!!!!
As I've said before, my vids aren't inherently made for train fans, also the general public, so I just simplified the wording in the title for that purpose
first to like it
No you weren't. Someone else was before you.