This Silver Is *ACTUALLY* Stuck In Elo Hell... (We Made Him Prove It In A DIAMOND Lobby)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2023
- What happens when you put a SILVER player in a DIAMOND lobby in Overwatch 2 (OW2)? Can they hold their weight and get out of elo hell? 🤔
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So I am that silver tank player that competed in this event and I must say I had so much fun playing even though we lost twice it was still a great time. Everybody was super nice and I spent a good deal of time watching back and learning from what I did differently and I have finally been able to climb out of silver and I am now gold three pushing my way up to Platinum. I just haven't had time to make it plat and diamond.
good playing
@@TheFartGod69 thank you fart goddess lol
Good job man
you looked good man! try not to charge up the zarya too much and you'll climb from the mechanics alone. I'm a masters player and my aim is shakier than yours. you'll be able to climb.
@@chefjjs6550 Thank you, Ik not to charge zarya but I think my nerves were getting to me so i resorted to big thing shoot, I also love coordinating burns on her which is what I was trying to do but forgot to make the calls. lol I hope to see you there in a few weeks or months
His team was full of obnoxious comms and backseaters, no wonder why he seemed a bit overwhelmed. Most of those comms were not helpful at all and just cluttered the call
Yeah, you don't really need to be in the vc until low GM.
@@doublelizard767 Until you've got someone who's been top 10 at least*
@@ale3for913 you're smoking crack. stop.
deepwoken
W pfp btw
the silver player can think for himself, the back seating is CRAZY
its called coms
@@sixxstudios4737telling someone how to play the game isn’t comms
They typically can't
@@LilPlungewell he’s silver so it’s good for him to be led by the diamonds
@@oxydoreduction2483 the whole point is to see if he belongs in their rank. They should treat him as they would any other player
Eastybug consistently giving the worst comms in OW 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
It looks like he was just a bit overwhelmed at the speed of the other teams. His awareness is great for his rank and he's definitely better than most silvers that we've watched, for sure.
I was overwhelmed but not by team speed but rather the scale of people watching. In my league we play against diamond-gm regularly so I've become accustomed to the speed and it is def some of the reason I can't climb because I want to go fast but silvers golds etc can't move as fast as I want.
@@MrLenzGaming I can believe that for sure. Eyes on can be daunting 🤣 why don't you and your league mates climb it out?
@@tyler755 Well we try which is the funny thing but the biggest issue comes to whenever we have a master's player who cannot play his main role in low rank because he gets tilted cuz he doesn't understand
@@MrLenzGaming You made them go Zar/Bastion, deep down, that's a win.
@@MrLenzGaminglol I feel that! Being stuck on support as a dps main is agony.
Jeez Eastybug bossed everyone around all game and giving advice that everyone already knows yet died constantly
NAH FOR REAL THOUGH?!? I WAS SO ANNOYED THE WHOLE VIDEO CONSTANTLY HEARING THEM 😭😭
I’m surprised anyone can think with her constant voice spam.
I’m shocked she didn’t get muted
Oh I haaateeee when people are flooding with comms that are useless, then you don't actually hear the good and usefull comms. I have a friend who never stops talking in games, sometimes we have to tell him to stfu 😆
Eastybug also was just horrible, 12-15 at the start of overtime omg
She kept telling him how to play. That was cringe. Let him "block block block" when he thinks he should. She should be worries about playing her hero and stop making shotty calls.
Ong his team was way too passive even on the attack they called him to fall back a load before point was even taken we played it really well but his team was too scared
She was fine
@@Alig80r She was 12-16 as Mei... that's hard to do even if you are throwing.
The chick in his team for the first match was unbelievably annoying . Like she disregarded him almost instant then tried to get him to switch and change his style . So annoying
And she never stopped talking, I bet she was talking more than Jay3 during the matches
Hi there! I want to explain, I talked with everyone on the team between matches and beforehand, and no one felt pressured by me!
I consistently asked what they wanted me to run, where to go, etc and made that clear from the get go - we even had a discussion on stream that probably got cut from the video - about just that. I asked what he wanted, he said ashe, it was not a good ashe day.
I also had a moment in between games where it was explained that due to a medical issue, I was having a very hard time using my mouse. Any point where aim was important, yeah I lagged behind. And i apologized multiple times for it.
You don't always know what goes on, and everyone in the lobby understood what was going on since I was talking about it off screen. Even the guy said he had fun, that's what should matter; it costs nothing to just be nice and - to quote Coach Koby - realize everyone has bad games.
@@EastyBugTV Just out of curiosity, are you this communicative in solo queue?
@Alanhslc yes I am! I mainly play mystery heroes with my group and am the only one doing calls, couple that with me being a tank main, I typically try to be talkative. I even talk through first rounds and then realize no one is in vc at times
Edit:// I find it way more fun to talk and make calls, and as a CC myself it comes more often than casual players. I've been thanked for my comms more than not so I just have it as a habit now :')
@@EastyBugTV I assign you Schrift "Y" for Yapper.
For anyone who notices the teams didn't switch in the video, we did do one with the teams switch but it was not included in the video. So you're only seeing 2 out of the 3 games we ran.
Fr or Ong ❔
Omg I thought I was going insane for thinking that those guys sounded exactly the same
@@anatolydyatlov963 yea it was bad the second game we got rolled but it was honestly still fun cause they went full sigma/ Winston counters
what happened when they switched?
@@ItsOOOPS we got slammed it was bad 😂
That one girl who kept acting as a "igl" and kept trying to tell him what to do needs to stfu like holy jesus
girl igl lolol
THATS WHAT GIRL DO IN THIS GAME ... they are shit playing support can heal , can aim .. but they have no fuckiung clue of whats going in the game their positioning is always ...
i hate the girl so much first match. the girl keeps disagreeing with the tank . alot of time shes wrong too .
She is the worst.
women
She was also 12/16 as dps😂she jealous she sucks so bad
@@twitch6071🤨
Yea i ain't decided but i feel girls just ain't as good@@twitch6071
I gotta be honest, first game offense, when he ram ulted, he had NO support. They were hyper focused on “3 on point” logic and not helping him team wipe with that ult. Priorities.
That girl was annoying not letting him play for a second plus the toxic comm at the start.
silver tank goes 23-9, diamond mei goes 12-15 lmaooo 13:22
can't compare tank to dps stats that way but that's indeed a bad dps Stat for being negative (tanks should have the lowest deaths beside support)
it's a sigma vs a mei, huge difference in stat level
@@twinrixone5295I would trust a diamond dps to have better stats on everything including mit depending on character than a silver tank any day
@@twinrixone5295 that mei was bossing everyone around with her gold callouts and feeding aat the same time
Boosted Mei
To be honest, he wasn’t getting healing every time he fought the tank, the mercy was dick riding that zarya and neither of his supports gave him heals, at least that’s what I noticed 🤷🏻♀️
Mercy seemed to backseat game the entire time and she didnt look like she pocketed him once even when bastion was doing anything
Mercy be like that sometimes
From a college player's perspective, you'd be surprised how different the game is when you're playing in an esports setting as opposed to ranked at times. Imo, really teaches you how to get a lot better at the game. I had teammates that were diamond and masters players on my team but I (Silver back when I joined) was able to keep up because playing with them helped me learn to see from their perspective. Most people play a lot better when they have a full team to communicate with also. Helps them understand what's going on a lot better when they can talk it out
There's a sort of saying that I've heard repeated in both OW2 and League of Legends; that you improve a lot faster and better when you're against higher ranked people. It definitely does help having higher ranked friends or teammates communicating with you, and suggesting ways to improve or showing you why X is the right/wrong answer to Y.
For instance in my first few games of OW2 (I just started about 2 or 3 months ago, and it's my first FPS game ever lol), I didn't know pretty much anything about OW or the characters and was mostly just overwhelmed, but I know because I played with higher ranked friends I was able to quickly learn to try to pay attention to key things, and then to pay attention to things that were off screen from time to time (I'm a support/tank main so this one was important). One of my early examples of this was me playing Kiriko for one of the first times, and the enemy team having an Illari. My friend told me to Suzu when the Illari ulted, and I did.... It just happened to be... not when she launched the projectile, but right as she said the line and started to rise up. However after she told me what she meant with it, I was able to nail it the 2nd Illari ult around and save my friend and I from a sunburn death.
@@Blan-Kittthat goes for every game. You okay against people better than you to get better
Was it the obnoxious cocky girl that threw the game?
No throwing was done aside from Owen /lh 😊
you're ass lmao all you do is complain and yet you preform terribly @@EastyBugTV
@@EastyBugTVyou definitely threw.
The girl shot caller was so obnoxious on comms.
I noticed first match he wasn’t getting really healed
when I played for a college team, we just started it and we all were just mid at the game and our second tank's rank was bronze/silver boarder. He sure showed that rank when we first played but after scrimming and doing some vod reviews, and with him being open to all advice and critiques, he became sooo much better and much more reliable. It was really cool to be in organized play for a bit
Comms does seem cluttered. It does happen, I have adhd myself so I’m no stranger to stream of consciousness call-outs but it’s also good to learn how to do it without taking focus from your team.
Personally I like to group call-outs into two categories, Notices and Actions. Basically ‘important information the team should know’ and ‘actions that the team should take’
Examples of notices are: ‘reaper flanking, he has ult’, ‘they have nano blade’, ‘echo switched to widow’.
Examples of Actions are: ‘we have four ults, let’s use nano blade next fight, nothing else’, ‘let’s speed boost straight onto point and hold there’, ‘I’ll come with you soldier, let’s flank left side’ ,‘Stack on Sym’, ‘Rein needs care’, ‘tracer’s slept, 3 2 1’,
But generally if you’re going for that win, less is more with call-outs bc mentally filtering the important information out of long sentences does take focus away from things in front of you. Of course if you’re just playing with buddies trying to have a good time then it doesn’t matter haha.
I'm originally a high rank siege player so call outs are my specialty just usually not this fast paced which is what I'm working onatm
@@MrLenzGaming yea understandable, overwatch is very fast paced which makes short n sweet callouts all the better. I made my initial comment on the overall state of comms on the team, I noticed it most from one of the ladies making the calls, I do think you could have performed a lot better with less voice clutter from the team.
I think the two main call-outs for tank are ‘I need help/care’ and any positioning changes you’ll be making like ‘dropping off high ground’, ‘taking a second here to let my shield recharge’, ‘I’m gonna push high ground’. Ow2 being single tank means you’re solely responsible for making and holding space, so it’s important to let your team know what space you plan to take or let go of so they can plan their own repositions. I main support so while competent supports are able to somewhat read the fight and position according to our tank, a heads up before an aggressive play or a fast retreat helps a lot and we can invest resources to help our tank.
no way, dude does not belong in silver.
His Orissa looked super silver. His Sig was good but he couldn’t really make much happen just had hood shield control and aim. I would’ve guessed gold.
His aim was good but he want to use his cooldown more often instead of waiting a perfect shot
He's diamond dps, sp thats the aim and awareness
best way to climb out of silver is with roadhog as a tank..
@@danerodriquez1358 His orisa is obviously not polished, however he obviously doesn't belong in silver looking at his sigma
That's insane that he's Silver, I couldn't believe it. I'm a high Plat tank player and he's doing things I simply can't in some of the fights. Nuts
Same here I’m plat too and this crazy
Skill issue
I think he's better than silver for sure, would probably fit better in plat based on his performance in this video, def not diamond though.
He's diamond dps tho
Ur just a boosted plat than
What was hiz support doing ? Dude was basically never healed during fights. Was she pocketing the bastion the whole time?
Absolutely correct, and her call outs were not helpful at all, all she did was complain and not heal him properly.
on god she should be in silver instead@@RaviSingh-ph2uw
supports were not even following him up in team fights sometimes along with the enemy teams supports providing more burst healing to aid him
girl was so annoying and ended up 12-16 😭😭
If this guy is silver, than I belong in bronze
Lmao, the "i could run each map backwards!" Followed by the immediate self reflection. 😂😂😂
That made me laugh, i respect the humility and the humor. ❤️
The support girl needs to talk a bit less. Half of her coms were just audio clutter about things happening to her only. Not a very good shotcaller
Winton primary won't ignore armor directly, it ignores the damage reduction Armor provides. So it just damages armor like it's normal health.
that's basically saying it ignores armor entirely
@@bruhmoment4338 The armor is still there though, just as a health stat
@@cjerp I think the point is, regardless on if the enemy has armour or not, it won't feel any different for the Winton player
@@Ismail-kv3exthat doesnt mean it ignores armor entirely tho. just a word issue
Are there this many people that can't read or do we still think "Winton" is funny? 🤔
eastybug belongs in silver
Ima pull out that hurting shoulder excuse next time I’m throwing my games
One thing I noticed that's easy to change I think, and it's that he sometimes need to cancel nemesis form more often as Ramattra
Exactly what i was thknling as somwone who plays alot of ram when u dont need it start up the cooldown as well u can then shoot the ppl ur out of range of
yeah noticed that too, it's like he stays in melee form until it runs out and he punches when everyone's out of range.
The one tip I’d have for Ramattra is to learn when to purposely end Nemesis form early. Yes, you want to get the max amount of value out of it but you also want it when you need it.
I agree! To add, always ask "what am I doing here?" If it's not pressuring someone or using the buffs end it. Not only for the faster cool down but also the poke and shield are great for in between
eastybug throwing deadass 😭
what he doesn't show is Owen6 that was the true throw lol. Most of us had this as our first time being watched by thousands of people which made everyone nervous. Along with easty who had shoulder issues that day.
bro main torb you would be top tier with him if your projectile aim carries over@@MrLenzGaming
@MrLenzGaming appreciate you lenz ♡ im glad i was able to pull it together for the last round!
@@EastyBugTV Some of the worst comms I've heard. Someone likes the sound of their voice...
eastybug is in elo heaven she belongs somewhere else lmao
As a Plat tank and Diamond Open. He plays better than me 😂
Mercenary is a sick name for a Mercy player.
But seriously, dude deserves higher lobbies for sure. He could easily keep up in high Diamond lobbies.
thats pushing it tbh
Not rly I would say Plat he was already getting overwhelmed by the Diamonds
Mercynary
Did you just say a silver tank can hold their own against basically masters players? 😂 The guy who rocked a Winston shield, inted and fed zarya charge as ram and was lost on the horse can hold his own against masters players, ok bud
@@ZykoYFF dude Diamonds are NOT Masters that's for damn sure
dude , he is lost with all their random calls , they are calling " monkey on me" ,"genji on me" as if he knows who they are or what they sound like , they should at least give him a proper call by including there hero in the calls , not just using "me" ,,, thats why he is a bit lost and looking around tons with that slow sens of his ,,, its giving him a really good aim but cant scan the surrounding properly ,,, but still he managed to keep up ,,, props to him
overall he is really stuck in silver and i would give him even a higher rank than Dia ,,, good vid , great effort from all
ty Jay
He never switched teams so he never got to switch off the throwing mei
Preach brotha!
I thought I was the only one who noticed lol
I recently hit diamond 2 on support and I'm already tired of it. There is someone smurfing or ximming every second match with a Mercy pocket + I've never encountered so many hackers in a game like I have in 3-4 weeks in high diamond. I'm about to throw myself back in gold if its continue like this 😄
U play on console, I can guarantee you haven’t seen a hacker in you’re console life
@@user-uu7yd2yy8pximming is cheating, so.. hacking.
@@user-uu7yd2yy8p I can guarantee you there is something called crossplay what makes Playstation, XBOX and PC play together.
Nah I’m on diamond console for several seasons and I don’t think I see ximmers
There are only ximmers in high GM, and still I dont encounter that many
This guy looks really good on Sigma! Only thing I would say is to use the shield more often because Sigma's shield has such a short cooldown to move its position, and sometimes I noticed he wasn't using his shield, like in the grav for instance at 17:46 he probably should have used his shield first to protect his team which could have potentially saved someone. Overall not bad at all, I'm sure he'll climb a lot higher with that kind of gameplay!
He needs to get comfortable with taking space. Not being afraid to die. Let your team know when you're going in. Assert dominance
Sig is a mid range poke tank, that play style works better with tanks like zarya, orisa etc.
Considering tank is the role where it's more evident if a player is of lower elo he didn't do that bad. I think that if he manages to climb up to plat (which he shouldn't struggle) amd then stay there a for like a month or even less he'll be ready to reach diamond
I cant believe how sweaty those people were "lets destroy this silver tank" and go pick the counters to his tanks. They ironically gave him the respect he deserves.
Eastybug being COMPLETELY USELESS fr
love the vids. I was actually trying to get myself participate in Jay's Elo Hell videos (I'm a hardstuck silver too. gold highest) but since I live in Asia country, most of the time when the event was announced, it was scheduled at 2-5 A.M. in my local time
I've met a lot of people who were amazing at certain game, they could easily reach high ranks, but none of them played ranked.
Also I have a story, we had regional tournament in League of Legends, and every school had to pick one team. So we had school tournament to decide who will go. We had support player who was in bronze (second lowest rank), and in final match we were playing against diamonds (5 ranks higher than bronze) and the bronze guy was smurfing on them. Ultimately we won whole school tournament, but they accused him of cheating, they thought someone was playing on his account (we were playing from our homes). This guy had played 15 ranked matches that season. All high rank players who played with him said he could easily outclimb them. In the end we got banned from tournament without any evidence. Teacher had no idea how we could prove he was the one playing so he banned us beucase they accused us. Also enemy team was trash talking whole game in all chat, since begging. 3 months later we learnt THEY had someone playing on their accounts. I'm never taking part in any school tournament ever again.
9:52
This is an all time excuse for playing like shit 😂
I know I'm late to comment, but I have chronic illness and my joints are fucked up :') it was clarified before, during, and after stream, and I even ran solo in the lobby beforehand to try warming up and see if I could even run games.
I know you may use certain excuses that are made up, but not everyone does ♡
'my shoulder is sore im not playing well' breh
SHE NEVER SHUTS UP
He's definitely very unsure and afraid of what he's doing which is understandable and he doesn't seem to understand the momentum of diamond games compared to silver but even in these diamond lobbies he's definitely playing like a high gold or low plat, he just needs to be more comfortable and get used to faster gameplay and he'll be diamond in no time.
Jay: "I'm really excited to see."
Proceeds to leave the chair the next scene
the biggest thing with elo hell is finding a way to get around the matchmaking and MMR system. Once you learn how bullshit it is, you can rank up. also his teammates were not helping tank by playing counters.... on D no reaper for winston, and no moira for genji.... players have the power to help but are often times too dumb
I remember back in OW I was part of the OW team for my Uni and had a current placement of bronze due to my account being used by someone else for a season then not being able to escape bronze, had to make a "Smurf" account which was placed high to play comp with the team
splurged to this jay3
Made classic silver mistakes tho. Had he ignored monkey and blocked his support and damaged back line money would have died to 1v4 with no support
When did he swap teams? It looks like he has the same teammates from the first match?
Jay3 is also in ELO hell, but its like an ELO hell inception, where he was once good enough but now coasts on his MMR history and an insane amount of hours played
THATS MY COLLEGE TEAMMATE!!!!!
AYYYYY TBENZ
dude prob deserves high gold. Tends to use cooldowns inappropriately and quite often. Positioning was actually a lot better than most silver tanks. I'd be overwhelmed with those cluttered comms too though. I bet the guy could climb to high plat just by managing cooldowns better
he played so well but it feels like he played so nervous, but what else do u really expect, i'd be panicking so much
“Let’s shit on this silver” & then proceeds to be the most insufferable person of all time
He is Silver!?!? WTF he deserves more... Fush this game
“Im not playing 100% my shoulder hurts” whatt the helllllll😂
When your dominant shoulder you use for aim/shooting is unable to move without excruciating pain, you also would mention it :')
This guy 100% belongs in silver dunno what other people are saying, his ability usage and game awareness is def silver.
The main thing that people need to learn in this game is target prioritization, everything else is secondary.
wait i'm confused we didn't see him play on the other team in the video, both games he was with lagomorph, eastybug, amusedx, and mercenary and not with the other 4(owen, jowoshy, yer, and snacks)
I played with them but Owen6 got his name that map lol
Ahh second round didnt go too well in terms of back and forth, so they must have cut it! (Havent watched yet)
At 15:05 it said they got stomped that game. So a close-ish loss with team 1, stomp with team 2 and then a win with team 1 for a 1-2 W/L
The game where they switched teams was not included in the video.
As a new ow player stuck in gold/silver I can confirm it is elo hell I watch lots of guides and other things but sometimes it just doesn’t matter, it comes down to if you can swap and counter the enemy tank if you try and play 1 tank only it feels like you have to be a Smurf to climb and play with minimal mistakes and this is all solo q fyi and teammates barley have mics idk anyone else have a different exp? I feel like if I 3 or even 2 stacked I would definitely climb but then is it really my rank ? Idk what’s y’all thought?
Few seasons ago I was gold tank and played constantly in master/diamond lobbies with 60-70% and just barely managed to get to plat and suddenly went in gold/plat lobbies and games and enemies were FAR easier after that BUT I got matched with leavers and afkers after that. MM is a mess.
the first girl who is talking to him like a child needs to stop. some of her call outs are just pointless. she is the queen of yapping
Now i really wanna watch him play in silver and see what's going on there..
Pertaining to sigma: His shifts need a lot of work, though his other abilities only need a few minor tweaks...namely not insta-rocking bubble every time monkey leaps in, bc he's always gonna bubble. But yeah, overall, a good tank, and definitely can play well beyond silver. I'm curious how much time has actually gone into ranked, though.
Another thing I noticed, that I didn't see anyone mention, is that his aim is often low, particularly noticeable on ramatra. You can pretty reliably hit headshots on ram if you just set up your cursor at head height, and then track from there
he never...switched teams?
I love these
What is happening to mokey next season, heard hes getting a hard buff
When you said he changed team at the end, he didnt even, he was still with the same team lol
I definitely could’ve utilized high ground more. His rocks were decent but could’ve been better.
he was worried about the monkey too much imo tbf he literally turned to the monkey every time he jumped, gave so much free space to the enemies every time
Dude was also playing with 60-72 latency. That is a serious disadvantage.
I think you balance being nice and mean well
About being silver and in college esports, it might not be a D1 school. My school has 3 Overwatch teams and our lowest team has silvers and bronzes
him getting a diamond mei who averages like 13 deaths per 10
One pf the best game I've ever seen
I can’t get past bronze 1. It’s absolute hell. I’m not even playing until the new patch for comp cause this is ridiculous
20 seconds in, and I see him use sigma rock against monkey barrier 3 times. I've seen enough lol
Do Jay do videos like this for console?
Great game man. Definitely should be at least plat or diamond.
They didn't switch teams in the second game.
As a support, I have a few accounts, one floats silver 1/gold 5 and the others are high plat/diamond. I can tell you the silver is 100 times harder. The challenge is at silver most players just press W, and run around corners to die, they have 0 awareness of healers positioning and play like lemmings. I cannot get past gold 4 on that account, its almost like a lost cause of even trying.
Tbh his dps wasn't executing anything
I don’t play Ow as often because I’m better off without it. That being said his sigma is pretty good. Game sense good too. Respect.
I feel like if he could have went against eastybug he would have done better since he’d have a different dps
My friend was a silver support on a college exports team
im a silver player who loves tank and this guy is not a silver player, this just shows how broken the matchmaking is that this guy is stuck
spam rock on winston´s shield lol
And that mercy should be silver lol
But how could this be? I hear so many people, particularly high rank players, say that being stuck and Elo Hell aren't real...
your delustional
@@lunar7240 So there aren't people who are stuck in Elo hell? There are, that means it exists...
I’ve been stuck in silver and am about on par with this tank. I’ve stopped playing comp on my main till the rework bc it’s horrible