Same here , amateur A racer & rode YZ250 smokers for 6 yrs & just wasn't enough torque when the ground was snotty no matter the mod's , also it didn't turn as good as l wanted , always started up front but the mx power always gave me arm pump the first lap or 2 , year end results were 3rd to 6th in class . Made the switch to a KTM 300XC & with a fork revalve / next size stiffer spring , adjusted clickers on the rear & my results showed how much l loved the bike , l only got 1st-2nd or 3rds for the 2 yrs l raced that XC including 9 straight 1st place finishes , that bike hooked up in every condition & turned on a dime , no arm pump & l had the torque l wanted & year end result on the XC were 2 class championships , Thought l try the 300XC-W the next year & continued the success , all l needed was torque a bike that would handle/turn , the YZ wasn't for me but the KTM was , my first KTM 300 was the 2006 XC & l've had a 300 ever since mainly the XC-W , still have my 2008 300XC-W & its in great shape .
@@chopperenduro6590I’m with you chopper, but my path has been XCW first and now you won’t get an XC off of my throttle hand. Top 8 every race with many top 3 finishes as well. I was Never on a podium with YZ but to be fair I haven’t owned a new one. Last one was in 2016
I just sold my YZ285 due to the Boeing strike. Already put a deposit down on a 25 Husky TX300 Heritage Edition. I’m over carb bikes. Want electric start, fuel injection and a counter balanced engine with TBI 👍
I have 2 ktms, 23 300 xcw and 24 350 xcf....as long as you dont skimp on maintenance, doing it earlier than recomended, you should be ok. These are awsome bikes
Be thankful KTM is still trying to build an excellent two stroke trail bike with today's emissions regulations - these bikes are the gold standard right now - and they're awesome.
@@MikeRomines A lot of people buy the W then they turn them in to XC which can be pricey, There is 11 things what's different between the two bikes... Sorry but I guess you have to make your decision, Thanks!
@roberturmosi-dirtbike-atv i ended up finding a 2023 300xc for a great price with 14hrs on it. Previous owner has had no problems so far. Fingers crossed. 🫰 thanks for the reply!
I wonder what you say about the 2023 bikes because I bought a new 2023XCW and I am very happy with how it rides. you said they had electrical connection problems? Can you be more specific on that? Do you recommend that I do sell certain mods to this bike? Thank you!
Only thing I can tell hopefully you are luck enough to pick one which is good. have a lot of desperate people reached out to ask what they can do with the constant problem they have. this is the problem on those bikes: "At about 7 hrs. our 2023 KTM 450 SXF started to randomly cut off (never on a jump thankfully). It got steadily worse over a couple of ride days"
WP suspension good for what , first or second gear speeds ahha , not hard for the Putt Putt bouncy life of Hard enduro . Enduro GP is the Enduro test for Suspension quality stock
All ktm owners have never owned one long term, on my 8th bike 6ktm 1 gas gas 1 husky, mostly 4 strokes but TPIs too, not had any major issues in 14years keeping up my good maintenance. Jap bikes shit themselves after 50hrs if you can even get the stock clutch that far haha
2008 until now , constant poor quality or poor design 4t and 2t . Always items failing including down to a simple starter motor design flaw for 10 years . Stators starters fuel filters fuel pumps it just goes on and on and has done since 2008 on my watch . Rode them all watched them all fail like a china bike like quality . Throttle cables , simple bar mounts cracking just poor quality on R and D for reliability . Polished Turds ongoing , saftey recalls on the road worthy bikes is annual white red or orange ktm regardless of where they are made . there parts have always been a mixed bag of poor quality , engine seals starter magnets falling off and jamming up starter motors on the 4ts , no kick starter o how much does it weigh stupid marketing gaff eveyone gets sucked into ! Hard enduro the only thing that bike has , id rather a different brand and there euro issues if i needed a putt putt hard enduro bike .
@@CraigSteinman-zt3vu is it? How many complaints could you possibly have heard vs how many have no problems that are sold. I guarantee the percentage is less than you perceive
@jamesoso259 its all over you tube all the 23 ktm smokers 250/300) I mean every 1 came with a 20mm to long piston skirt which would hit the crank assembly and grenade the piston..and that's just one problem..don't get me started on the tpi models for God's sake..alot reports of internal washers(clutch ..flywheel) not even installed .alot of quality control issues..especially now that these bikes are not made in Europe..cmon man! $14,000 dolllar dirt bike we are talking about here
Really good insights on the 300XC and KTM in general that I haven’t seen anywhere else. Always high quality content!
Thank you!
Glad I’m getting a 2025 Husky TX300 Heritage Edition 👍
Robert your WR introduced you, but I've stayed for the content. I'm looking forward to buy a 300 TBI maybe in the next two years.
Both bike is an excellent choice to have, Thank you!
KTM went public a few years ago and the slide down started
keep Throwing Money 🎉
@ dirtbike what was the issue you had with the crank no start condition you showed in video?
My Throttle body position sensor wast set up to the right voltage
Lotta haters here. I came to KTM from Yamaha. Always had great success with KTM. Yamaha was not for me.
Same here , amateur A racer & rode YZ250 smokers for 6 yrs & just wasn't enough torque when the ground was snotty no matter the mod's , also it didn't turn as good as l wanted , always started up front but the mx power always gave me arm pump the first lap or 2 , year end results were 3rd to 6th in class . Made the switch to a KTM 300XC & with a fork revalve / next size stiffer spring , adjusted clickers on the rear & my results showed how much l loved the bike , l only got 1st-2nd or 3rds for the 2 yrs l raced that XC including 9 straight 1st place finishes , that bike hooked up in every condition & turned on a dime , no arm pump & l had the torque l wanted & year end result on the XC were 2 class championships , Thought l try the 300XC-W the next year & continued the success , all l needed was torque a bike that would handle/turn , the YZ wasn't for me but the KTM was , my first KTM 300 was the 2006 XC & l've had a 300 ever since mainly the XC-W , still have my 2008 300XC-W & its in great shape .
@@chopperenduro6590I’m with you chopper, but my path has been XCW first and now you won’t get an XC off of my throttle hand. Top 8 every race with many top 3 finishes as well. I was Never on a podium with YZ but to be fair I haven’t owned a new one. Last one was in 2016
I just sold my YZ285 due to the Boeing strike. Already put a deposit down on a 25 Husky TX300 Heritage Edition. I’m over carb bikes. Want electric start, fuel injection and a counter balanced engine with TBI 👍
Most of my group now ride Beta's , loved my pre 19' ktm's , might return when they go direct injestion
I have 2 ktms, 23 300 xcw and 24 350 xcf....as long as you dont skimp on maintenance, doing it earlier than recomended, you should be ok. These are awsome bikes
@@angellmarrero8326 Exactly! That’s how I see them as well, maintenance is important on them due to the fact how high performance this bikes are
Ktm on Sunday
ATM on Monday
Be thankful KTM is still trying to build an excellent two stroke trail bike with today's emissions regulations - these bikes are the gold standard right now - and they're awesome.
When is comparison video between the xcw and xc coming you are going to do
I'm actually working on it have to re do the entire thing due to a high vin and the audio get bad...will be out next week Friday 3pm
@roberturmosi-dirtbike-atv a little hint would be nice wanting to buy one this weekend love your videos VERY informative
@@MikeRomines A lot of people buy the W then they turn them in to XC which can be pricey, There is 11 things what's different between the two bikes... Sorry but I guess you have to make your decision, Thanks!
If you could do it over again, would you buy another 300xc?
Yes! especially the 2025 KTM fixed all of they bug issues
@roberturmosi-dirtbike-atv ended up getting a 2023 300xc with 14hrs. 7k. 🤷♂️
@roberturmosi-dirtbike-atv i ended up finding a 2023 300xc for a great price with 14hrs on it. Previous owner has had no problems so far. Fingers crossed. 🫰 thanks for the reply!
I wonder what you say about the 2023 bikes because I bought a new 2023XCW and I am very happy with how it rides. you said they had electrical connection problems? Can you be more specific on that? Do you recommend that I do sell certain mods to this bike? Thank you!
Only thing I can tell hopefully you are luck enough to pick one which is good. have a lot of desperate people reached out to ask what they can do with the constant problem they have. this is the problem on those bikes: "At about 7 hrs. our 2023 KTM 450 SXF started to randomly cut off (never on a jump thankfully). It got steadily worse over a couple of ride days"
Did you ever get your stock Ecu reflashed ?
Yes sir I have a TSP erm and head + the power valve cover
@@roberturmosi-dirtbike-atvWhat are your impressions on the TSP mods?
@@surfpr727 Highly recommends or everyone
WP suspension good for what , first or second gear speeds ahha , not hard for the Putt Putt bouncy life of Hard enduro . Enduro GP is the Enduro test for Suspension quality stock
How many do you think ride enduro GP on a stock suspension?
All ktm owners have never owned one long term, on my 8th bike 6ktm 1 gas gas 1 husky, mostly 4 strokes but TPIs too, not had any major issues in 14years keeping up my good maintenance. Jap bikes shit themselves after 50hrs if you can even get the stock clutch that far haha
That can't be a healthy engine with all that noise... You know it's not gonna last
2008 until now , constant poor quality or poor design 4t and 2t . Always items failing including down to a simple starter motor design flaw for 10 years . Stators starters fuel filters fuel pumps it just goes on and on and has done since 2008 on my watch . Rode them all watched them all fail like a china bike like quality . Throttle cables , simple bar mounts cracking just poor quality on R and D for reliability . Polished Turds ongoing , saftey recalls on the road worthy bikes is annual white red or orange ktm regardless of where they are made . there parts have always been a mixed bag of poor quality , engine seals starter magnets falling off and jamming up starter motors on the 4ts , no kick starter o how much does it weigh stupid marketing gaff eveyone gets sucked into ! Hard enduro the only thing that bike has , id rather a different brand and there euro issues if i needed a putt putt hard enduro bike .
KTM = Kan’t Take Motion
Bad quality and dumb build designs are a ktm trademark..especially the last 5 years..never liked a orange bike anyway..gotta stay blue
lol little do you know there are plenty of 23 plus Ktm group bikes that are racking up 300hrs without one issue
@@jamesoso259 but the % of bikes with problems is way too high for a $14,000 bike
@@CraigSteinman-zt3vu is it? How many complaints could you possibly have heard vs how many have no problems that are sold. I guarantee the percentage is less than you perceive
@jamesoso259 its all over you tube all the 23 ktm smokers 250/300) I mean every 1 came with a 20mm to long piston skirt which would hit the crank assembly and grenade the piston..and that's just one problem..don't get me started on the tpi models for God's sake..alot reports of internal washers(clutch ..flywheel) not even installed .alot of quality control issues..especially now that these bikes are not made in Europe..cmon man! $14,000 dolllar dirt bike we are talking about here
@@CraigSteinman-zt3vu lol you drink the kool aid I get it