Spoilers for like book 4? I think? somewhere near the middle of the series, it might be much later: Brain damage enough to join the whitecloaks? or is there something I've forgotten?
@@The_Murder_Party Instead of doing brain damage, the concussion worked like a Limitless pill, and gave Galad +10 Intelligence and +10 Charisma, and allowed him to turn the Whitecloaks into good guys.
lol. That is right on. Too bad we will never see a show that accurately depicts this scene. With Rafe in charge, he is probably just going to pick their pockets for the silver marks.
Remember, this is when Mat is pale, weak, recovering from being healed from the taint of Shadar Logoth. One of my favorite moments in the entire series.
My thought exactly...mostly before this he was kind of just there,after his character just grew and grew until for me he becomes the best character in the books or at least the equal to Rand...
This with Matt being the only one to recognize "Selene" was batshit insane and not simping for her immediately was what made him my favorite. What a turn around.
@@raodio I mean he recognizes she was batshit insane and didn't fall for her like Rand and Perrin did. He's the only one that thought, "Huh this beautiful woman appeared out of nowhere and is super interested in me. She must be an ally!"
@@raodio Selene was even upset and stormed off angry because he didn't fall for her seduction. She might have killed him if the Aes Sedai didn't come to check on him.
I’m sorry, I am late. But when did Rand ever simp for Lanfear? He admired how good looking she was but always did what he was going to do anyway. She was constantly pissed about not being able to control the 18 year old farm boy.
One of my favorite scenes from all the books! I think it's critical in establishing that the Emond's Fielders, though naive to much of the rest of the world, were brought up of some pretty tough stuff. The core group, (Rand, Mat, Perrin, Egwene, and Nynaeve) consistently show that even in a world filled with Warders, Aes Sedai, Seanchan, and Aiel, they should never be underestimated as a bunch of country bumpkins! Mat soundly defeating both Gawyn AND Galad simultaneously after both had been praised for their swordsmanship helped establish that there was a hell of a lot more than meets the eye to good ol' Mat Cauthon, even without the memories, luck, or dagger!
I think that is something very important to point out, as you mentioned. This is Mat PRE Eelfinn memory dump. Post memories, there'd be no question the outcome of a rematch. Mat would beat them both handedly.
I got the series from a friend about 10 years ago. He would ask me what I thought at various times and then he would say his favorite character was Mat. I thought Mat was annoying as hell for the first two books, but I began to understand after this passage.
i feel like this is actually the normal reaction to Mat. RJ basically rebooted the character around this point and i dont know anyone who thinks that was a bad idea.
The blademaster Gaidan comment was probably Jordan referencing the story of Miyamoto Musashi, considered the greatest swordsman in Japanese history. He fought in several major battles and at least 60 recorded duels, including defeating a full grown man when he was just 15, and later killing a master swordsmen with an oar he’d whittled down on the way to the duel because he’d overslept. He was never beaten, but the story goes he was fought to a draw once, by a man with a quarterstaff.
Though if you read the stories, you find Musashi was kinda a punk about his matches. He considered a match to begin the moment it was agreed upon when most believed it to begin at the agreed place and time. Musashi would employ all sorts of trickery and deceit leading up to the fight, including laying in wait and ambushing his opponent. His favorite trick was to show up hours late to a dual, which was considered a great insult and would result in the opponent getting angrier and angrier and losing focus.
It is not unique either, in HEMA practices a lone swordsman against a lone spearman (no shields) the spear virtually always wins assuming the opponents are of roughly equal skill. When using a spear without a shield its very similar to using a staff, and you have a lot of advantages. The two major advantages though are reach, and the fact you can use both ends of the weapon, so can redirect very quickly. A parry with one end can flow seamlessly into a strike with the other, and if you can maintain contact with your opponents blade he has very little chance of parrying that blow, he *has* to move to avoid it in some manner. There is a reason people used both spear and staff for so long of human history, even when supposedly better weapons were available.
I love the voices Michael Kramer gives each character in this scene. 😘 The contrast between Mat's way of speaking and the more refined royal boys is very entertaining. Master Haran's portrayal is also amazing.
IMO, this fight marks the real start of the series. From this point on, the story gets good. The story wasn't bad before, but this is where everything goes up a level or 2.
Mat saving the Cairheinen from the Shaido and forming the Band of the Red hand is one of my favs. followed closely when he destroys the Seanchan with his new crossbow teams. Leaving the Seanchan scratching their heads as to how a large crossbow army managed to elude them so deep into their territory. Or when he takes out the Shara channeler single handedly - almost like it was an inconvenience. In fact, if there is an abridged version just following Mat's story arc, that would be glorious. My fav of Perrin is when he meets the Seanchan lady to ask for help with the forkroot, followed closely when he makes his hammer, or destroys the shaido with Two Rivers bowman, and a handful of channelers. Of Rand when he uses the Dark ones power to thwart Semirhage. All among many, many others.
I know Mat is the star of this scene, but I also think this is my favorite scene of Gawyn's. I love his line "Galad - you very nearly made a joke!", and how he just grins when Mat and Master Haran insist that Galad is not THAT good looking. 😂 Great ensemble in this scene.
Crazy. I was listening to this chapter and it cut off abruptly just as the fight began. I made a note to reread the chapter when i got home then this popped up in my recommendations. Looks like the dice rolled in my favour
I love all the foreshadowing that happens. "The worst he has to worry about is finding himself warded to a green Aes Sedai before his head clears." He laughed. "No, they would not do that."
I love Jordan's alliteration. All to easy to picture the Aes Sedai...especially when you have 3 cats that like drinking your water and going after your food.
Literally one of the best and most hilarious parts from the books! It makes me weep so badly that we won't get this in the show! I really appreciate the little thematic music in the background! Immerses you more into the moment.
@@sandrafrancisco Unfortunately he is only there because of the casting change. He was supposed to be with the others. The scene with Perrin and Paden Fain should have been Matt instead. There have been outside forces that are affecting the show.
I never picked up on it before, but I think Mat understood subconsciously (based on his yet fully accessed memories) that a full fledged quarterstaff has quite an advantage against wooden practice swords. The weight alone gave Mat an advantage here.
@@lachlanjackson6428 he has at least some old blood memories. When he wakes from being cleansed at the Tower, he remembers being Manatheren, perhaps Aemon himself. The majority of his battle wisdom did come through the Finns, you are right.
Matrim was my favorite since book one, but in book three, the most important thing about Mat is how he saw through Lanfear and didn't like her at all. He also was quick to take care of Thom when he needed it and was more than willing to rescue the girls in Tear all alone. He didn't end up doing it alone, but he went thinking he'd have no help. That showed who he was. I think people failed to empathize with Matrim when he had the dagger, because we did not have any POV chapters of him during that time.
I stopped reading GOT books at 4. It did not interest me to continue. I have read WOT series multiple times and am contemplating on starting it again before November.
Totally agree with the pinned comment re: this scene being memorable. This moment is up there with the Cleansing or even Rand’s Aiel history lesson at Rhuidean.
One of the best plot event in the series, also one of the reasons I like Matt. That and when he got back with his Band, after traveling with the circus for that quick battle.
This is definitely a high point in the series- and it's probably the point where Mat's character reset really took hold- where he went from being just a tag along character (rather than just the Hornblower etc) and turned into his much more interesting 'Gambler' persona. IMHO, of course. (Later in that same time, where he goes on his crazy winning streak at dice, reconnects with Thom Merrilin, etc, was also a pivotal moment!). I really enjoyed listening to this- even though I've read it several times- great post!) Cheers!
I've only ever done the wheel of time books through audible im doing the actual books now not long started them now your making me want to start the audio books again
Michael Kramer and Kate Reading set the perfect stage with their amazing ability to make all the people sound completely different…. We will have to exercise extreme patience with the TV show having to make changes to our beloved storyline…. I just hope they don’t make it into all violence with none of the lovely character stories and development…
@@MrTuubster You have to know that it’s virtually impossible to make a television series that follows the richness of the story exactly… If they did the story would last 20 years! They absolutely must make some creative changes in order to be able to bring it to us in visual form. I think that Rosamund Pike portrays Moiraine perfectly. And so far, even though I am a diehard Jordan fan, I think the TV adaptation is pretty good.
@@JoySongDesigns our opinions could not be further apart I think. I understand you want to condense a story. A season per book sure. But 8 episodes is just too short. But the character changes? Unforgivable. Abell Cauthon is not a drunk adultering wifebeater. Mat Cauthon is not a thief, corpselooter and pessimistic whining turd who would abandon his friends. Perrin is not fawning over Egwene like a puppy in love. Loial (i love the actors portrayal) looks nothing like in the books. Women who burn out do not literally burn out! They just get cut off from the Source. Thom Merrillins look is also off. He is a bard, not a cowboy. Lan does not cry and wail in public. He does not go sexing first time he gets a chance after Nynaeve because he falls in love with her and Nynaeve does not jump him when she gets a chance because she considers herself a wisdom. Wisdoms do not marry and above all the Two Rivers people are a conserved lot. The list goes on. The actors are fine, but it is blatant the writers of the series have not fully read the books nor do they understand them. I hate to say there are agenda's at work and I gave the series a chance. But.... there are agenda's and I am appalled by the show and want nothing more to do with it. If you like it, enjoy it and more power to you. But I refuse to acknowledge this as my Wheel of Time.
@@MrTuubster I agree with you. However, as I said, I’ve made the choice to enjoy a television show and let go what I think it ought to be or not be… So I am deciding to view the series as a standalone separate thing as I relisten to the audiobooks. I hope you can find it within yourself to also appreciate the art and Spirit and the acting in what they’ve done and let go judgment…
@@JoySongDesigns I do not think I can. The books left a big imprint on me. If a show claims to be an adaptation of something, you have to judge it, not only on acting and special effects, but also on it's source. By all means enjoy the show, I am staying with the books and act like the show does not exist.
I just started doing it because I’m a fan, I hope to do more but I am limited due to my busy 60hr and sometimes more job. Thanks stay tuned because there will be more.
You know the funny thing about that scene, having more knowledge on the subject, that 2v1 is almost a scam. It's almost to the extent that them thinking they stand a chance against him 1v1 is actually unbelievable. I suppose they were extremely sheltered, but learning not to pick a fight when you have the shorter stick seems like it would be one of the first things you learn.
Two swords vs one staff IS dangerous for the staff wielder if they can get on opposite sides or flank him. Vs two swordsmen keep them on the same side and in each other's way as much as possible. Of course if you can take out one opponent fast enough things get much easier as Matt demonstrates.
@@WhyName The addition of the second adversary is what drops the staff wielders odds significantly. If the swordsmen know how to work together he's got to be good enough to outmanovuer them. If they get on oppisite sides he's in trouble bad. Of course all this assumes decent skill on everyones part. 3 complete amateurs aren't as predictable, though 2v1 is still a factor. Ray parks is actually very skilled martial artist and had a hand in coreographing the 3 way with darth mall, qui-gon, and obi-wan and watch how Maul works those two. Mind you it's with fantasy weapons, weilded in part for spectacle on the big screen.But you do see maul employing sound tacticts.
Looks like I'm going to have to get the series on audiobook. It's the only way I'll get through a re-read and Kramer & Reading are SO GOOD at what the do.
I have links in my video descriptions for a 30day free trial with Audible if you want to check them out? Also I totally agree that Kramer & Reading are Great.
Thanks Dylan note taken, I've been struggling to put in quality time to get it done properly even with covid lockdowns I still got to work as an essential worker here in New Zealand ports, yeah thanks man great comment the music editing and matching it up to the audio is the most time consuming part of making these videos.
One of my favorite memorable moments, then Matt's going into the door way at the Stone of Tear for his memories of generals that begins his true character story arc and then meeting Tuon. The Wheel of Time Series presents Matt's father as a lecher, incapable of being the person Matt just described in this reading, let a lone being a good horse trader that Matt had learned from in his own experiences for good horse sense in choosing good winners later on in the story. Hopefully that all doesn't get changed too.
I love that whole time I was thinking Matt dude come on this is a ridiculous gamble to make!! You are going to lose what small amount of money you have 😭
What hurts the most is that his friends never heard of this. I have read till the 7 th book and this is never mentioned. Nyneve, Aviendha, Elayne and Egwene. Completely underestimate him and treat him badly. Elayne is the most hateful of them all. Constantly ignoring his privacy even when he tells her the Fox amulet is his. Especially after he saves their sorry hides. They think they are more powerful because they can channel. But he could have bundled all 3 and taken them to rand whenever he wanted. Whereas everyone's praising Galad and Gawyn. Mat should have been done better. Rand and Perrin and Lan. They give him the deserved credit.
That’s a major focus of the books. Women have had the political power for a millennia more or less. Even Seanchan, an empire built by a man, has had Empresses so long I don’t think they comprehend a leading Emperor. And some Aes Sedai have been alive for over 300 years, and have been at the Tower for all but at most 18. That’ll mess up your psyche. I may have bias, but the conflict of the men seems better to me then the women. Rand has to deal with learning he may destroy the world, while carrying it on his shoulders, while trying to be eliminated by people defending and destroying the world. Perrin has to deal with change, something he has problems with. The politics of the world are confusing to him, and he’s been thrust into the middle of it in the later half of the books. Mat has to deal with so much craziness it’s ridiculous. However, everything he does ties back to stealing the dagger at Shadar Logoth and his personality, which is the self confident flirt that isn’t actually a jerk. They are also all Ta’veren, so that means they have far less free will than others, and they actually warp it as well. That realization hits hard with me. Lan has to deal with being the prince of a nation that was destroyed, with survivors wanting him to try and reclaim it, when he was barely born when it fell. Nyneave and Moiraine are my favorite females. I sympathize with Nyneave a lot actually, I had anger issues when I was younger, and have been trying to look after my brothers. Moiraine is helped by A New Spring, and she’s competent within reason and the only weird thing is randomly getting Balefire in the second book. Egwene and Elayne are usually reacting to what going on after their arrival at Salidar. Egwene becomes Armyrlin of the rebels and the big move the Tower Sitters do anything is after Elaida is captured. Egwene did influence it, but their enemies caused the problems. Elayne has to fix what her mind controlled mother did. I guess I’ve figured out how I like the main characters, it’s based on how conflict deals with them emotionally. Min gets to have this because she loves Rand, and stays with him throughout, even after things show that she probably shouldn’t. Aviendha and the Aiel are confusing, but not enough so that we don’t understand Aviendha’s struggles, and her relationship with Rand is complicated and needs to be figured out.
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There are many memorable moments in the wheel of time series, what are your favorite memorable moments?
Dumai's wells was epic
This is one of them.
Lans charge at tarwins gap
@David Kling to be real, anything and everything BUT the slug fest that was Perrin chasing the twats that stole his precious
@David Kling it's not
Now I realize at what point in the story Gawyn suffered brain damage and lost about half his IQ.
LMFAO
Well played, sir. Well played.
Spoilers for like book 4? I think? somewhere near the middle of the series, it might be much later:
Brain damage enough to join the whitecloaks? or is there something I've forgotten?
@@The_Murder_Party Instead of doing brain damage, the concussion worked like a Limitless pill, and gave Galad +10 Intelligence and +10 Charisma, and allowed him to turn the Whitecloaks into good guys.
@@The_Murder_Party Galad is the one who ends up joining the Whitecloaks not Gawyn
I think walking off with the quarter staff, because nobody told him to put it back is the most Mat thing in the whole clip, lol.
He should have left Emond's Field with one imo, he's clearly a pro
@@PsyrenXY they were being chased by trollocs, fades and draghkar back then man. Mat had to give them a chance, so he left without his staff.
Yessss this should of made it into the series. I know they had complications though but they didn't really set this up at all
@@PsyrenXY it wouldn’t be terribly effective against trolics or fades but it would be helpful against dark friends
lol. That is right on. Too bad we will never see a show that accurately depicts this scene. With Rafe in charge, he is probably just going to pick their pockets for the silver marks.
This is the moment when Mat becomes MAT!
Absolutely
Yup, this was an absurdly incredible moment. AND he was weakened ta boot!!
Possibly my favourite Mat moment and there’s lots of them lol
100% agree
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Remember, this is when Mat is pale, weak, recovering from being healed from the taint of Shadar Logoth. One of my favorite moments in the entire series.
I think with age and Lan not having so many years as a warder, Mat may win.
The moment Mat's character really began.
Edit: "Galad... you very nearly made a joke." I can't believe I forgot that line.
Yeah I was REALLY not looking forward to this character when the 3rd book started. Now he's my favourite character... of any media, I think.
My thought exactly...mostly before this he was kind of just there,after his character just grew and grew until for me he becomes the best character in the books or at least the equal to Rand...
?? Gawyn made the remark.
Galad almost makes a joke: ^^
Talmanes actually joking: =O
I prefer "he's not THAT good-looking" 😂
This with Matt being the only one to recognize "Selene" was batshit insane and not simping for her immediately was what made him my favorite. What a turn around.
He recognised Selene? I thought he recognised Else, not Selene. Selene he had no idea who she was beyond being beautiful and suspicious, right?
@@raodio I mean he recognizes she was batshit insane and didn't fall for her like Rand and Perrin did. He's the only one that thought, "Huh this beautiful woman appeared out of nowhere and is super interested in me. She must be an ally!"
@@raodio Selene was even upset and stormed off angry because he didn't fall for her seduction. She might have killed him if the Aes Sedai didn't come to check on him.
I’m sorry, I am late. But when did Rand ever simp for Lanfear? He admired how good looking she was but always did what he was going to do anyway. She was constantly pissed about not being able to control the 18 year old farm boy.
@@ran7645 when he slept by that guiding stone w the thief taker from shanar.
Also Matt's transition into becoming a certain Norse god is one of the best things in the books.
Am I to understand that Matrim Cauthon becomes Odin???
@@vlargxera more or less, yeah. He's called "Son of Battles" and has a really cool spear and an eye patch.
@@wintersking4290 also ravens...
@@omysadat hat
He doesn’t become Odin the all father. He has character traits that resemble Odin.
One of my favorite scenes from all the books! I think it's critical in establishing that the Emond's Fielders, though naive to much of the rest of the world, were brought up of some pretty tough stuff. The core group, (Rand, Mat, Perrin, Egwene, and Nynaeve) consistently show that even in a world filled with Warders, Aes Sedai, Seanchan, and Aiel, they should never be underestimated as a bunch of country bumpkins! Mat soundly defeating both Gawyn AND Galad simultaneously after both had been praised for their swordsmanship helped establish that there was a hell of a lot more than meets the eye to good ol' Mat Cauthon, even without the memories, luck, or dagger!
I think that is something very important to point out, as you mentioned. This is Mat PRE Eelfinn memory dump. Post memories, there'd be no question the outcome of a rematch. Mat would beat them both handedly.
It also builds up the legend of the two rivers as some of the fiercest and most capable detachments of the forces of light.
"I've hit myself harder than that falling off a fence" is a great throwaway line
It’s curious how annoying I found Mat through the first two books. And how he became my absolute favourite character from the third till the end.
I got the series from a friend about 10 years ago. He would ask me what I thought at various times and then he would say his favorite character was Mat. I thought Mat was annoying as hell for the first two books, but I began to understand after this passage.
He had the best character arc and development
i feel like this is actually the normal reaction to Mat. RJ basically rebooted the character around this point and i dont know anyone who thinks that was a bad idea.
Matt is probably the best character after book 2. So season 3 if they get that far people will probably understand that haven't read the books.
The illness is what you really hated it colours his character until he is healed.
“Not your marks” Matt said shoving them into his coat pocket “Mine”
😂😂😂
Mat is my favorite. So many great moments. Love the cover stories he made for the Redarms..
Long live the Band of the Red Hand.
Those cover stories were one of the funniest moments in the books
Soo good!
The blademaster Gaidan comment was probably Jordan referencing the story of Miyamoto Musashi, considered the greatest swordsman in Japanese history. He fought in several major battles and at least 60 recorded duels, including defeating a full grown man when he was just 15, and later killing a master swordsmen with an oar he’d whittled down on the way to the duel because he’d overslept. He was never beaten, but the story goes he was fought to a draw once, by a man with a quarterstaff.
Depends on who tells the story. In some, he loses to that quarterstaff in a rematch after the man shortened it so he could use it more quickly.
Though if you read the stories, you find Musashi was kinda a punk about his matches. He considered a match to begin the moment it was agreed upon when most believed it to begin at the agreed place and time. Musashi would employ all sorts of trickery and deceit leading up to the fight, including laying in wait and ambushing his opponent. His favorite trick was to show up hours late to a dual, which was considered a great insult and would result in the opponent getting angrier and angrier and losing focus.
It is not unique either, in HEMA practices a lone swordsman against a lone spearman (no shields) the spear virtually always wins assuming the opponents are of roughly equal skill. When using a spear without a shield its very similar to using a staff, and you have a lot of advantages. The two major advantages though are reach, and the fact you can use both ends of the weapon, so can redirect very quickly. A parry with one end can flow seamlessly into a strike with the other, and if you can maintain contact with your opponents blade he has very little chance of parrying that blow, he *has* to move to avoid it in some manner.
There is a reason people used both spear and staff for so long of human history, even when supposedly better weapons were available.
I love the voices Michael Kramer gives each character in this scene. 😘 The contrast between Mat's way of speaking and the more refined royal boys is very entertaining. Master Haran's portrayal is also amazing.
Thank you for this clip. It is one of my favorite moments from the WOT series.
Glad you enjoyed it
IMO, this fight marks the real start of the series. From this point on, the story gets good. The story wasn't bad before, but this is where everything goes up a level or 2.
facts
Mat saving the Cairheinen from the Shaido and forming the Band of the Red hand is one of my favs. followed closely when he destroys the Seanchan with his new crossbow teams. Leaving the Seanchan scratching their heads as to how a large crossbow army managed to elude them so deep into their territory.
Or when he takes out the Shara channeler single handedly - almost like it was an inconvenience.
In fact, if there is an abridged version just following Mat's story arc, that would be glorious.
My fav of Perrin is when he meets the Seanchan lady to ask for help with the forkroot, followed closely when he makes his hammer, or destroys the shaido with Two Rivers bowman, and a handful of channelers.
Of Rand when he uses the Dark ones power to thwart Semirhage.
All among many, many others.
Perrin's best was "It's just a weave" right before he fully transformed into Goku.
Yes notes taken for future content
There are so many 🙏
My favorite Wheel of Time character and my favorite scene.
I know Mat is the star of this scene, but I also think this is my favorite scene of Gawyn's. I love his line "Galad - you very nearly made a joke!", and how he just grins when Mat and Master Haran insist that Galad is not THAT good looking. 😂 Great ensemble in this scene.
As likable as Gawyn has ever been, lol.
Crazy. I was listening to this chapter and it cut off abruptly just as the fight began.
I made a note to reread the chapter when i got home then this popped up in my recommendations.
Looks like the dice rolled in my favour
Same for me
Luck 🍀🤙🏾
Mats arc is great, the band of the red hand.
Time to toss the dice! Yes this is the moment mat became my favorite character
I love all the foreshadowing that happens. "The worst he has to worry about is finding himself warded to a green Aes Sedai before his head clears." He laughed. "No, they would not do that."
I love Jordan's alliteration.
All to easy to picture the Aes Sedai...especially when you have 3 cats that like drinking your water and going after your food.
Well said!
I love this part of the books sooo much, thanks for putting the clip up!
Glad you enjoy it!
Literally one of the best and most hilarious parts from the books! It makes me weep so badly that we won't get this in the show! I really appreciate the little thematic music in the background! Immerses you more into the moment.
i think we will, it was too good. mat still has yet to be fully healed from the dagger and he's still in the tar valon area.
Yes I thought it was a mischievous sounding track that would suit Mat.
Thanks 🙏
@@sandrafrancisco Unfortunately he is only there because of the casting change. He was supposed to be with the others. The scene with Perrin and Paden Fain should have been Matt instead. There have been outside forces that are affecting the show.
@@rickbruner5525 that really sucks. but real life happens, i guess.
@@rickbruner5525 given that the show has brutally and without mercy ripped the books to shreds ands is so horrible..."i win again Lews Therin"
the time he rolled the loaded dice😆 made me lol while I was reading as a kid. still one of my favorite Matt scenes
I never picked up on it before, but I think Mat understood subconsciously (based on his yet fully accessed memories) that a full fledged quarterstaff has quite an advantage against wooden practice swords. The weight alone gave Mat an advantage here.
Correct me if I'm wrong but he got those memories from the fox people who he hadn't met at this point
@@lachlanjackson6428 he has at least some old blood memories. When he wakes from being cleansed at the Tower, he remembers being Manatheren, perhaps Aemon himself. The majority of his battle wisdom did come through the Finns, you are right.
@@Aerophire He has memories from other lives yes but no he does not remember Ameon as being him.
Yup indeed. Battle tactician Mat was reborn.
Matrim was my favorite since book one, but in book three, the most important thing about Mat is how he saw through Lanfear and didn't like her at all. He also was quick to take care of Thom when he needed it and was more than willing to rescue the girls in Tear all alone. He didn't end up doing it alone, but he went thinking he'd have no help. That showed who he was. I think people failed to empathize with Matrim when he had the dagger, because we did not have any POV chapters of him during that time.
I wish the actual audiobooks would have the music that would go great with the scenes, like a radio dramatization. Thank you for this.
I really like the music change the moment Matt steps up to fight.
Also Gawyn is a Simp for Egwene
I love that RJ's WOT is getting so much attention! Also Matt (my favorite character) is getting all the love!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this scene is iconic WoT.
Having listened to all the Cosmere since the Wheel of Time, Michael Kramer sounds so young here.
Honestly, this book should've been called Aemon Reborn.
I stopped reading GOT books at 4. It did not interest me to continue. I have read WOT series multiple times and am contemplating on starting it again before November.
@@Quvan It's a slowburn series dude. Totally a fantastic series.
One of my favorite fights from the entire series, this is when Mat became my favorite character
Man, I hope we get to see this moment in the show.
Bahahahahahahaha........just give up on that monstrosity.
@@musicnosuck Season 2 will reveal that Season 1 was actually an oosquai-fueled hallucination that Aviendha was having.
it is too good for the series...sorry
Hopefully this is in Season 2. They teased some big Mat moment to get us used to the new actor
This is great with the music you improved perfection also I hope they do this scene justice at least in the show
Could you do one of Mats winning streak/escape from Tar Valon in TDR? I love those chapters
Do you know what chapter/s and I'll look into it Thanks.
Totally agree with the pinned comment re: this scene being memorable. This moment is up there with the Cleansing or even Rand’s Aiel history lesson at Rhuidean.
The music for this video reminds me of the first Fable game. Love it.
One of the best plot event in the series, also one of the reasons I like Matt. That and when he got back with his Band, after traveling with the circus for that quick battle.
One of the best moments in the entire series !!!!! Loved it !!!!
They need to write a series on just Matt and Perrin…my too all time favorites!
One of my favorite scenes in all of the books.
Sooo ready for this in the show!
Fantastic work. Loved it.
Many thanks!
Just the absolute GOAT being the absolute GOAT
What a moment, I remember thinking Mat was gonna have his ass kicked and when he ripped the floor with both was awesome.
i just read this scene last night!!! I LOVED IT!
Always hungry and lucky Mat were my favorite parts of this book I think. Made me finally like the kid
I love when Thom is watching Mat make the roasted chickens disappear.
@@MattGarZeroThom and Mat together are one of my favourite pairs in the series. They play off each other so well
I love this chapter and reread it all the time. As well as play this reading. One of my favorites. Thank you for this version
This is definitely a high point in the series- and it's probably the point where Mat's character reset really took hold- where he went from being just a tag along character (rather than just the Hornblower etc) and turned into his much more interesting 'Gambler' persona. IMHO, of course.
(Later in that same time, where he goes on his crazy winning streak at dice, reconnects with Thom Merrilin, etc, was also a pivotal moment!).
I really enjoyed listening to this- even though I've read it several times- great post!)
Cheers!
This is one the best written passages in the whole series, so evocative
I keep coming back to this clip 🙂, eventhough I own the books and the audiobooks. 🥰
Love this. Pls share more favorite moments
Thank you
I’m working on more😊🙏
i love Kate Reading and Michael Kramer voices there great
Great narration and production! Thank you!
This is definitely one of the best scenes from the book!
One of my favorite scenes
One of my fav scenes. Well read.
I've only ever done the wheel of time books through audible im doing the actual books now not long started them now your making me want to start the audio books again
In a hypothetical series you would play parts of "Dance with Jack of the Shadows" when Matt walks off.
Now compare this Mat to the tv show Mat........
Michael Kramer and Kate Reading set the perfect stage with their amazing ability to make all the people sound completely different…. We will have to exercise extreme patience with the TV show having to make changes to our beloved storyline…. I just hope they don’t make it into all violence with none of the lovely character stories and development…
The tv show has already butchered the story and the writers of that trolloc abomination have spat in the face of mr. Jordan's legacy.
@@MrTuubster You have to know that it’s virtually impossible to make a television series that follows the richness of the story exactly… If they did the story would last 20 years! They absolutely must make some creative changes in order to be able to bring it to us in visual form. I think that Rosamund Pike portrays Moiraine perfectly. And so far, even though I am a diehard Jordan fan, I think the TV adaptation is pretty good.
@@JoySongDesigns our opinions could not be further apart I think. I understand you want to condense a story. A season per book sure. But 8 episodes is just too short.
But the character changes? Unforgivable. Abell Cauthon is not a drunk adultering wifebeater. Mat Cauthon is not a thief, corpselooter and pessimistic whining turd who would abandon his friends. Perrin is not fawning over Egwene like a puppy in love. Loial (i love the actors portrayal) looks nothing like in the books. Women who burn out do not literally burn out! They just get cut off from the Source. Thom Merrillins look is also off. He is a bard, not a cowboy. Lan does not cry and wail in public. He does not go sexing first time he gets a chance after Nynaeve because he falls in love with her and Nynaeve does not jump him when she gets a chance because she considers herself a wisdom. Wisdoms do not marry and above all the Two Rivers people are a conserved lot.
The list goes on. The actors are fine, but it is blatant the writers of the series have not fully read the books nor do they understand them.
I hate to say there are agenda's at work and I gave the series a chance. But.... there are agenda's and I am appalled by the show and want nothing more to do with it.
If you like it, enjoy it and more power to you. But I refuse to acknowledge this as my Wheel of Time.
@@MrTuubster I agree with you. However, as I said, I’ve made the choice to enjoy a television show and let go what I think it ought to be or not be… So I am deciding to view the series as a standalone separate thing as I relisten to the audiobooks. I hope you can find it within yourself to also appreciate the art and Spirit and the acting in what they’ve done and let go judgment…
@@JoySongDesigns I do not think I can. The books left a big imprint on me. If a show claims to be an adaptation of something, you have to judge it, not only on acting and special effects, but also on it's source. By all means enjoy the show, I am staying with the books and act like the show does not exist.
I've been looking for this channel for over a year I didn't think people made Wheel of Time audio clip videos
I just started doing it because I’m a fan, I hope to do more but I am limited due to my busy 60hr and sometimes more job.
Thanks stay tuned because there will be more.
In the audiobook I had this part never played wow thanks man
One of the best scene's in the book.
I loved this moment.
You know the funny thing about that scene, having more knowledge on the subject, that 2v1 is almost a scam.
It's almost to the extent that them thinking they stand a chance against him 1v1 is actually unbelievable.
I suppose they were extremely sheltered, but learning not to pick a fight when you have the shorter stick seems like it would be one of the first things you learn.
Sword against spear is a pistol against a rifle
@@ChristianAuditore14 yeah, at 300 yards.
Two swords vs one staff IS dangerous for the staff wielder if they can get on opposite sides or flank him. Vs two swordsmen keep them on the same side and in each other's way as much as possible. Of course if you can take out one opponent fast enough things get much easier as Matt demonstrates.
@@kaseyboles30 any armed confrontation is dangerous.
But the odds on this one are in the staff wielders favor.
@@WhyName The addition of the second adversary is what drops the staff wielders odds significantly. If the swordsmen know how to work together he's got to be good enough to outmanovuer them. If they get on oppisite sides he's in trouble bad. Of course all this assumes decent skill on everyones part. 3 complete amateurs aren't as predictable, though 2v1 is still a factor.
Ray parks is actually very skilled martial artist and had a hand in coreographing the 3 way with darth mall, qui-gon, and obi-wan and watch how Maul works those two. Mind you it's with fantasy weapons, weilded in part for spectacle on the big screen.But you do see maul employing sound tacticts.
One of the reasons why Iike Mat. Poleweapons beat swords.
Gawyn and Galad learned a tough lesson this day. Sometimes, it takes a solid bonk on the head.
Looks like I'm going to have to get the series on audiobook. It's the only way I'll get through a re-read and Kramer & Reading are SO GOOD at what the do.
I have links in my video descriptions for a 30day free trial with Audible if you want to check them out?
Also I totally agree that Kramer & Reading are Great.
Mat was always one of my favorites
Two silver marks, with a quarter staff..(Ashandarei)
This is one of my all time favorite :)
Great Concept. Need better background music at the beginning but… ending is great!! Superb..
Thanks Dylan note taken, I've been struggling to put in quality time to get it done properly even with covid lockdowns I still got to work as an essential worker here in New Zealand ports, yeah thanks man great comment the music editing and matching it up to the audio is the most time consuming part of making these videos.
Sad how Hamar dies, Seems Mat knocked what little sense there ways left out of Gawyns head.
This better be in the show. Not counting on it though.
One of my favorite memorable moments, then Matt's going into the door way at the Stone of Tear for his memories of generals that begins his true character story arc and then meeting Tuon. The Wheel of Time Series presents Matt's father as a lecher, incapable of being the person Matt just described in this reading, let a lone being a good horse trader that Matt had learned from in his own experiences for good horse sense in choosing good winners later on in the story. Hopefully that all doesn't get changed too.
Hollywierd is full of satanists. Stay away, Compulsion lurks...
Never gets old!
This is the moment I fell in love with the series
Love this scene
Rafe Judkins is incapable to doing this scene. In his show it will probably be Min who defeats the two.
I love that whole time I was thinking Matt dude come on this is a ridiculous gamble to make!! You are going to lose what small amount of money you have 😭
Now that the show is nearly through the first season, I can only see Barney Harris as Mat Cauthon in this scene.
Barney left the role, so get ready for a new face for Mat
I'm praying this chapter will be in Season 3. Its one of Mat"s best showing.
The old blood sings!!
Tai'shar Manethoren
While I love Rand, I love Matt MORE. He is the best most memorable character. Most fully realized.
great music choice
Galad and that spit fire? Oh poor boy! No wonder he joined the white cloacs!
Funny thing is I have three brothers and each one has qualities of Mat, Galad and Gawyn. Great scene.
Staring like cats watching a jug of cream…😂😂
What hurts the most is that his friends never heard of this. I have read till the 7 th book and this is never mentioned.
Nyneve, Aviendha, Elayne and Egwene. Completely underestimate him and treat him badly. Elayne is the most hateful of them all. Constantly ignoring his privacy even when he tells her the Fox amulet is his. Especially after he saves their sorry hides. They think they are more powerful because they can channel. But he could have bundled all 3 and taken them to rand whenever he wanted.
Whereas everyone's praising Galad and Gawyn.
Mat should have been done better. Rand and Perrin and Lan. They give him the deserved credit.
That’s a major focus of the books. Women have had the political power for a millennia more or less. Even Seanchan, an empire built by a man, has had Empresses so long I don’t think they comprehend a leading Emperor. And some Aes Sedai have been alive for over 300 years, and have been at the Tower for all but at most 18. That’ll mess up your psyche.
I may have bias, but the conflict of the men seems better to me then the women. Rand has to deal with learning he may destroy the world, while carrying it on his shoulders, while trying to be eliminated by people defending and destroying the world.
Perrin has to deal with change, something he has problems with. The politics of the world are confusing to him, and he’s been thrust into the middle of it in the later half of the books.
Mat has to deal with so much craziness it’s ridiculous. However, everything he does ties back to stealing the dagger at Shadar Logoth and his personality, which is the self confident flirt that isn’t actually a jerk.
They are also all Ta’veren, so that means they have far less free will than others, and they actually warp it as well. That realization hits hard with me.
Lan has to deal with being the prince of a nation that was destroyed, with survivors wanting him to try and reclaim it, when he was barely born when it fell.
Nyneave and Moiraine are my favorite females. I sympathize with Nyneave a lot actually, I had anger issues when I was younger, and have been trying to look after my brothers. Moiraine is helped by A New Spring, and she’s competent within reason and the only weird thing is randomly getting Balefire in the second book.
Egwene and Elayne are usually reacting to what going on after their arrival at Salidar.
Egwene becomes Armyrlin of the rebels and the big move the Tower Sitters do anything is after Elaida is captured. Egwene did influence it, but their enemies caused the problems. Elayne has to fix what her mind controlled mother did.
I guess I’ve figured out how I like the main characters, it’s based on how conflict deals with them emotionally. Min gets to have this because she loves Rand, and stays with him throughout, even after things show that she probably shouldn’t. Aviendha and the Aiel are confusing, but not enough so that we don’t understand Aviendha’s struggles, and her relationship with Rand is complicated and needs to be figured out.
Good times
I loved this moment but to me it felt forced at the time. The snake door thing was where it started to come together.
Galas sounds So prissy.
GOAT
And then Sanderson comes along and destroyed ten full books of character development, resetting Matt to pre-Tower personality.