What will they learn when the "Burning sun" perpetrators everyone are out now! Living their life! Everything is sickening no one will learn lessons as the korean justice system is a sh*t
@@Anonymous_Person63 Hey, not just idols. Who set up these women’s flesh clubs? They’ve been going long, long, long before the very first ever idol. Think about it. It’s considered a “manly” thing to do, by Korean men. Their right.
So will he actually have a strict punishment or get a slap on the wrist like all the other s offenders? Prayers for the victims, I hope that his psychotic fans leave them alone.
Only 7 years? The sentence is too low, we see Seungri out and partying just like before. Korea should change 🍇 sentences. Such people deserve life imprisonment or 25 years atLEAST.
@@gia42472 Seungri is exactly who I thought of hearing this. Korea favors 🍇ists. Meanwhile that ex Exo member is serving 13 years for his. Never thought I’d side with how China does justice.
@@MoonstoneStarChaser yet the government is trying so hard to essentially bribe people to have kids now because of the embarrassingly low birth rate 🤭 they need to reassess a lot it seems. Saw men might be exempt if they have kids now 🤦🏼♀️ on top of the monetary incentive to marry. The desperation is real, yet the logical answers aren’t options.
I'm sorry but the person that defended by saying it was probably a "minor guilt" is so stupid to me. SA is SA there's nothing minor about stuff like that.
Normally I would agree with the person who said that you shouldn't judge too quick, but given the seriousness and quantity of the accusations, you have to say that there must be something to it. Of course, it's always possible that things are being embellished, but even if that's the case, it's still serious enough. SA is SA. It should ALWAYS be taken seriously.
@@binarina_xx This was exactly my train of thought. I usually don't want to judge too quick, in fear of it being false claims, but SA is one of those things I just can't condone whether it's allegations or already confirmed. It just makes me feel sick.
@@murata..But that is where the problem is, no one knows for sure what he did or if it is true or not. SA is something serious too. Those who get falsely accused suffer a lot too.
okay 7 years is not enough!!!...but can we talk about how he SAed 1 woman and gets 7 years or life sentence - meanwhile seungri who had a whole human trafficking ring got 3 and even got out earlier so its not even in his records...bc it was less than 2.5 years what is going on there
Gang rape? What cruel. As everyone, I presumed his crime should be really serious. Just like the Kris Wu case (he was basically a serial rapist). This case is just as cruel. I hope we never see his face in the industry again.
True. We see so many examples of male idols who did disgusting things, and even though keep working normally in the entertainment industry as nothing happen. It's completely insane how people can keep supporting these guys.
“My girl” sis she’s not an idol anymore no need to get parasocial. KIDDING! this is a justified call out tbh because it’s not like Garam was actually bullying her classmates, people make it seem like she was the inspiration for the main bully girl in The Glory (;>_
exactly!! garam was literally ONLY defending her friend who was being harrased by the other girl. comparing that to A GRAPIST is insane to me... @@princessdollgf
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurllllgirl why should someone do it for fame💀 This is a literally crime and i dont think someone would report something like that to the police to get attention. Stop defending him.
@@taeraaee_ neither I m his fan nor I m defending him... I belong to india .. where I have seen many times a lady report fake cases on Celeb to bring them down .. or for money .. just saying anyway ... the Investigation is still on ... n there are only 2 probability
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurllll If that what's you think, you are almost as bad as he is. These is why so many women don't come forward. Because of people like you who take the side of the victimizer and shame the victim.
@@ShanaJahsintaWalters it's just that there are people like U WHO LIVE UNDER A ROCK if u see there are lakhs of cases where a women has blamed celeb for money or frame... so ofcourse there are chances here also... I m a daughter of a police .... I try to see every side... unlike u ... and I m not blaming any one .. now the women nor the idol... the investigation will tell the truth... and If u can't talk nicely just shut up... can u bear the consequences of the allegations u put on me 🙄🙄why do people like u even exist ... I hope u understand that I m quite offended
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurlllldo you know how hard it already is to come out and say that its rape? Do you know how much humiliation it causes nobody does it for fun
Ever since Rotten Mango came out my view of kpop has changed, back when i was still a teen i found male idols incredibly wholesome and refused to believe any of it was scripted, but now that i've kinda matured.. i no longer find myself obsessed with anything that is human..
Right… I think something changed in us all in 2019 and from then on out (I was 15/16 learning that these “oppas” are not always who they say they are). Never trust anyone to be fully innocent
Average girl group scandal: Lazy dancing, gaining weight, beathing in the same direction as male idol Average boy group scandal: A literal crime Edit: Some of y'all lack basic reading comprehension skills... 1. Average does not mean all 2. I am talking about Kpop scandals SPECIFICALLY mentioning crimes women committed outside of kpop is irrelevant. 3. Boy group stans in replies trying to make it seem like men are oppressed in anti-feminist and conservative country of South Korea is funny af. Lmao in your dreams. It's giving men commenting "not all men" under EVERY SINGLE post about grape case. If you don't know why this behaviour is problematic there are countless of very informative videos out there.
A complex co existence of disrespect towards women on a national scale and the existence of this dark problem, but only illegal for artists and entertainers. Politicians wouldn’t be charged. I think - if true- Taeil should go down. But this is Korea.
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, kris wu, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans. 🤦♀️
@@demonghost8232 what is wrong with these people. to think that the image of an idol blinds them so much from the monsters that are truly beneath those faces.....
@@armymatty5362 I think that as long as Koreans are handsome (and Korean obviously) they will defend them, just like they defend and justify Kris Wu and Hyuna's husband. Surely if they were ugly like Diddy, no one would justify or defend them.
AHHHH!!!! NOOOO!!!! I'm very very disturbed😰 That tweet you show, yes it's true i agree with the OP's tweet. My prayers goes out to the victim. I'm very disgusted and Scared.
See, it's not all men, but it's all women who have been through some kind of trauma related to harassment so be cautious. Handsome is not equal to kind and nice. So please be safe out there, especially the young girls don't fall for traps without even knowing a person, you can't judge them as a good or bad because YOU FUCKING DON'T KNOW THEM ON PERSONAL LEVEL. So admire from afar, but stay on your guard around men even if it's your life-long crush or handsome idol.
It's not even traps,most r4pe cases they target women who are coming back from work or at their HOMES ,sad men should have a curfew they should stay at home they simply have no place outside
I'm waiting for this case to appear on Rotten Mango. But I'm really disgusted by the fans who actually supported him even after he was literally kicked out. I'd like to believe that SM didn't know about it before since I do believe a company would take action immediately.
After seeing the joke that they called sentence that the Idols of burning sun recieved, I'm very optimistic that Taeil's also gonna get a joke, I mean a hard punishment. I mean com on Seungri got WHOLE 18 months for years and years of SA (if you don't know this sh*t was going on even before the club opened). And the victims? who cares about them? well definitly not South Korea and the law!
Seungri KNOWS people in the government. He knows who they are what they have done. He doesn’t even need to open his mouth and he’ll get support left and right. Even as a VIP I know this, and it’s the reason why I’m so mad he got close to nothing on his sentence. Even 5 years into debut he was already rubbing shoulders with the high ranking government officials and chaebols. I don’t think Taeil is as influential as you might think. Regarding sentencing he might get a mediocre sentence or the prosecution might level up the sentence and push for even harder sentence. We shall see.
@@Belectraaaa There was a huge scandal involving Seungri at his club called the Burning Sun. Seungri is a former member of a Korean boy group named big bang. Him and a few more members from other boy groups were convicted of doing heinous crimes to women. Most of the involved served prison sentences and retired from the Korean entertainment industry. You can try searching for more information if you need it.
Wow ! Suga’s scooter incident comes to mind. They condemned him to the fullest for driving a friggin scooter after drinking with friends. It’s laughable. I wonder if the reporters will humiliate Taeil when he enters the police station also. So this guy gang rapes, and everything was kept hush hush. I’m appalled in how the Korean public deals with all this crap. I feel very sorry for the victim. Nobody deserves that. I hope this guy pays for his crime.
Suga is a member of BTS and Taeil is from SM. Of course the Korean media and netizens wouldn't spent their time bashing Taeil. Sad reality. I feel sorry for his victim or maybe victimS.
He already is being condemned and rightfully so. It's a disgusting, and horrible thing he did. We however need to stop creating even more drama and saying things like, 'Suga got this and this other person didn't." This Taeil news is more recent and new things are coming to light. He'll face the consequences for his actions. I think people might also tall more about the Suga situation as he is more famous and well known. I even know a lot about BTS and the members and I'm not even a fan (I do however enjoy their variety show appearances alot😊) all that said, I can also understand where fans are coming from when some artists are crucified for something while others aren't. Last think I can say is, I have my faves in Kpop, they are even from and SM and RBW, but I will always stand behind the real victim. If it came to light that my faves were involved in something illegal, I will in no way defend them.
@@Ming3484 People, kfans or Armys didn't defend Yoongi. They acknowledged his mistake ''crime'' of not knowing the law in his particular case. They didn't understand the Knetizens ferocity regarding the incident, with no victims, with no real danger on the sidewalk. I mean ok it's his fault, so punish him by the law. But the righteous Koreans asked to be punished with 5 years in prison, when the minimum that a rapist can face is 7 years in the same prison? How come their brain cells are working that way? They must be in real pain living with that mind set. In August, in two weeks Kmedia produced more than 1400 articles for a ''DUI'' case, that was actually a RUI case, because he was riding an foldable electric keyboard. Is that more dangerous that a gang rape in Korea? How many articles do you know about Taeil's case in the last months? BTS is more famous than NCT? We are supposed to blame someone who broke the law, acknowledging how famous he is or how serious his deed is? Fans or not for both idols, let's don't mistake their crimes. One is a drunk erider, and the other is a gang rapist. If what Yoongi did was wrong, what Taeil did it is far more wrong, dangerous, and serious regarding a woman potential NCT/SM fan.
@@mona.cabocmona303 Sorry but, ARMYS did defend Yoongi, even worldwide for that matter. It was proven that people from other fandoms , or haters , posed as ARMY to ask for him to be removed from BTS, get a prison sentence etc… They condemned him for riding a goddam foldable electric scooter after drinking. Was it a good thing to do? Of course not. Was it a crime compared to Taeil’s ? Hell no ! Yoongi didn’t deserve to be humiliated by those reporters like he was when he showed up at the police station . When it comes to Taeil’s case…..he deserves whatever he gets, and I hope he does prison time for the type of crime he committed.
He did the crime so he must do the time and face the consequences of his actions and face the music And to the victims hope they can get through it and be strong 💪🏾
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans.
@@demonghost8232 wow that’s just sad that they still defend him and the burning sun fans still defend the dudes who were involved as well like come on now
I feel bad for Garam and soojin tho They were accused of them doing somthing wrong too but it was false accusation and people started attacking them. Garam was still young and only was 2weeks in debut. This is crazy. I wonder if there is more male idols hiding from us, i hope not. What Taeil did was very wrong. It was disgusting and it was a.gang rape too. I feel bad for the victim.
Right like a 16 year old gets false accusations of being a school bully and kpop fans collectively bully her out of the group meanwhile an idol gets confirmed police accusations of sa and the fans try to pretend it’s nothing?
Not just male idols but most Korean men. There's Nth rooms still going around and being created. Elementary, high school, and college students (women) aren't really that safe.
@jlizard8500 who's us ? It's just boy group stans who make up the majority ,i hate boy group stans a lot they literally worship men and we all know what ego does to men
The fact that none of the k-media covered his case shows how sick this industry is!!!! like not a SINGLE ARTICLE is posted on any k-media !?!## even other idols not showing any support for the victim make my heart hurt so bad they're just promoting their groups like nothing is going on in the korean industry is so SICKKKKKKKKKKKKK
ok but lets be fr no idol is gonna pull up w a tweet saying, 'to nct taeils victim, i wish you recover quickly, thank you'.. their job literally prevents them from talking about these sorts of topics publicly even if they want to.. u can't blame them and call them sick for that its the korean industry itself that is the problem 😁😁....
People should realize how the Media works, they will cover up whatever they want and let you know what they want you to know and manipulated, never the whole truth. I think SM has asked them for it, they have power over the Media
Fans seem to have unrealistic expectations on idols. They are here to entertain their audience. They are not news reporters or politicians who have to voice out their opinions on everything. Fans shouldn't put extra burden on their already heavy workloads.
I'm sorry I stereotype Koean men. I know there are decent men in Korea. It's normal that every country has good and bad. But damn! the amout of disgusting men in Korea is huge.
ur so valid tho bc imo hot take korea has got to be one of the most misogynistic, racist and homophobic countries out there like that shi is deeply rooted into the people. like imma be so fr most korean men you meet will probably fit the stereotype u have of them so u fine girl u have a point..
Seriously... I could never imagine that Taeil could do something this shocking and disgusting. Even when I heard that he was removed from the group, I thought that there are a lot of cases like that in the kpop industry where idols were removed and the accusations were proved wrong thereafter, but hearing that he is cooperating with the police simply means that he has now no way to hide what he has done. I was like.. about to start stanning him terribly when I started taking full interest in NCT 127, and there was the song "Walk" I like the most up till now. I liked him as an idol so so much although he was not that famous and so I kinda empathised with him and started stanning him and NCT 127. But, when I came across the dance practise video and recording of "Walk", I saw him nowhere. So I searched "did taeil get into an accident or did he go on hiatus right after the mv of walk released ?", and... I came across the big huge gigantic case going on. I couldn't believe and thought maybe they are just haters and stuff, but then I saw people tearing and burning card and pictures... Wow Taeil I cannot believe what you have done. I seriously want you to continue but you have done something unforgivable. Think about the life of the victim ! Where's your sanity gone bro I don't want to hate you but I have to hate you. You never needed to do something like that. Your pleasure was with the team, not the physical pleasure you wanted or whatever. My thinking ends there, where I start to think why in the world would someone like to ruin their whole career and make someone's life a living hell... Justice for the innocent victim, heal peacefully please. 🙏🏻
He hasn't been dancing for the last year because of an injury, it's not related to this criminal case. If it was, then SM would be in some deep shit for knowing about the case for a full year and doing nothing.
I can feel your pain. NCT is my ult group and I stan them since debut, so basically since 2016, I was in highschool.. I litterally grew up with them and Taeil had a special place in my heart because of his unique humor, his voice and mindset. I remember Jungwoo saying he would give his sister to Taeil-hyung so he surely hide his true personality very well even towards his members. What an evil man. Just put him in jail now even though it is still hard to believe this..
No seriously why the hell these Idols feels the need to ra** women like bruh you are a handsome famous kpop idols there will be some open minded females who wouldn’t mind to have a casual nights with you guys. So Why the f*** you mfers going around a treat women like nothing. This is soo upsetting. And SK law please respect your women. ( i am sorry in advance if I offended anybody with my sentences or words sorry you guys I just need to let it out)
They hate women that’s why. The point isn’t simply to have intercourse. For a lot of these men, taking something from a woman against her will, gives them a sense of power…it’s disgusting
because it’s not about having sex, it’s about having control over someone, humiliating them, and feeling accomplished that they’re tricking everyone else by being a “good guy” in front of everyone else
Lols when an idol gave in to a female fan, there are psychos who wanted to baby cage idols as well. Sometimes, if an idol doesn't want anymore, she will begone blackmailing him 😂
This is about Taeil, someone who committed sexual assault. Where did you come to the conclusion it was because he wanted more fame and money and if so how would his actions of sexual assault correlate with that? It’s not making I’m richer lmao
@Kpophistorianti im saying the average person would have been happy just being in his position But he decided to ruin a lady's life. My bad for confusing you
I thought i posted but I don't see it so if there are duplicates I apologize. I am highly concerned about the number of incidents like this around the world. With this and the Hollywood and Diddy similar scandal going on in the united states, I am terrified about how many cases are unknown around the world. It is truly evil.
Comparing an S case to garam is vile lmao. If the police summoned him for questioning, that means he's been accused of a literal crime bro. Kim Garam was 16 years old and falsely accused of school bullying, defended by her company with proof, then got thrown out because knets were noisy about it. How is that at in the same realm.
My stomach has completely flipped over. I'm so disgusted by his actions and I feel so hurt and betrayed as Nct are my ult group. I only hope that the victim(s) receive the justice they deserve and Taeil is punished for the horrible acts he has committed.
much respect to the victim for coming forward and filing a police report. its sad to think this may not have been the first time, but maybe the first time someone has filed charges against him.
@@niraxlevi9930 4 years? It's more about here in Germany! Here you didn't need money, you say: "I'm so sorry! I never do it again!" Or any thing... Taaaa daaaaa... You a good boy and get free or you get in a therapy. And the media, blame the victim. "She want it" "She it's a B^#(! - What happend?!" That's the true in Germany. That's the politic from the german politicians. And I'm a German woman and I didn't feel me save any more, in my own country. So high penalty it's a dream
I hope he receive proper jail time because 4yrs is nothing compare to what he did. So disgusting, i feel bad for the group, if one member did something bad the whole group is going to suffer, if not from the public but mentaly.
What is going with these men doing ish to these woman and acting like they didn't do a damn thing like come on how can you just wake up and go to a fan meet or do a concert knowing you just ganged raped or beat a woman where da phuck is their mental state going this is 🤢 sickening
NCT is my ult bias group but I'm sorry I can't defend him this is way to serious for me. Ever since I heard about in on August 28th I couldn't defend him I mean at first I believed it wasn't true but I couldn't convince myself. I will love NCT no matter what but I can't support him anymore. However I will miss him for who he was not who he became. Hopefully other czennies will keep supporting NCT and not blame the other members because they deserve and need a lot of support right now ANF some fans are dropping NCT and are happy that they are "falling apart" as NCT. I do find it disgusting that people find him more attractive after this if anything it is extremely unattractive and just plain out terrible and gross. I kind of feel guilty myself because I loved Taeil I mean he wasn't in my bias list but I did love and support him. The victim of this terrible disgusting crime which never should have happened to her, she does deserves justice and support. She certainly has mine. I will always support and love NCT as a whole including NCT Wish and even though they aren't apart of NCT, RIIZE and Lucas as a solo artist. 💚💚💚💚💚
You ''will miss him for who he was, not for who he became''? It's that a joke? Do you think last year he was another man? Or two years ago? It was a teenager who accused him of Sexual Offence that happened 6 years ago, but police didn't find enough evidences. Do you think that was a joke? Men don't became rapists suddenly, they are going on a long road of little offences and abuses over women, even if is only in their mind, and when they are more confident they will act. I mean that, all the men can do it, but not all the men will do it.
You'll just miss him for who you thought he was. He was a monster all along. And even that reasoning is stupid unless this is about you cursing him in your memory.
Because of this now I'm just scared. There are literally so many male kpop idols and my ults are boy bands. What should i do?? Imagine if one of them turned out to be a criminal. I would be heartbroken and im sure all the fans and the rest of the group (like what happened with t@eil)
They're misogynistic at best that's enough for you not to support boy groups, plus most boy groups suck music wise ,Don't support men,they hate women it's the hard truth that you have to accept and that i struggled a lot to accept myself each time i give them a chance they prove me wrong and turn out worse than the other
I don't remember who said it, it was a Korean-American, he said that when a Korean celebrity is accused, the police also inform the company because the job of celebrities in South Korea is to be the public face of the country so the law requires them to inform the company too, not just the accused. SM had to know that
This happened so fast, i'm praying for the victim. i you'st to be a BIG ''Taeil Stan* now i have thrown out all of my merch of him. this happened a few months ago
Meanwhile poor Seunghan had a girlfriend and smoked a cigarette years ago and is being treated worse than the ones who participated in real atrocities.
I give up on kpop. He was my top bias, liked and supported him from rookies era. Bought his albums everything. I give up. I don’t trust any celeb nor will I obsess over them anymore
@@demonghost8232When did he admit it? Honestly, who is THAT stupid to admit to something like this? Just like in a car accident, who is dumb enough to admit fault?
I would like to point out that people should stop the whole “foreign fans vs k-fans” thing as if westerners don’t know anything. Yes, there are those who forget cultural differences, but at the end of the day, it’s not just westerners who idolize kpop. Especially not when the culture of kpop where netizens raise hell just from a male idol and a female idol smile at each other started within Korea and the K entertainment industry. It’s 2024, it’s no longer “foreigners vs knetizens” pov. It’s fans as whole, period. With that being said, seven years is nothing. He and the acquaintances do deserve strict punishment.
I appreciate that this news story was fact based and not speculation about unknowns. That is what news is supposed to be. That is not what you always get.
Don't wanna compare with suga case.. but allow me to do it... what's wrong with Koreans??.. so much hatred for Suga misbehavior.. hope this guy will have the same treatment or even more
He has been scorned. Even NCT fans hate him. I think part of the disproportion in news coverage is because he’s not popular btw. He is one of the least popular. None of my Korean family knows who NCT is even but they know BTS. Suga is highly regarded WORLDWIDE so people were ready to slam him.
What are you talking about?? Taeil has already been receiving 1000x more hate and disgust. As he should. Suga got some petty hate and assumptions but that was it and it was nothing much in comparison.
Again not what he has done but what he is accused of. Not if the charges are upheld, but if he is guilty. Too many false accusations and lies so again need to prove guilt in Korean for me to believe. If he is found guilty 💯 he should be punished.
@@Sherluck93 I have a big following on x so I made a comment about him a person replied under my post saying “we don’t care about the victim we want to have s3x with him” when I saw that comment I felt disgusted that someone would make a comment like that
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds That would be the normal reaction to a comment like that. But it's just one out of many, I'd guess. I'm sorry people write stuff like that though! So, are they trying to cover it up or don't they even need to do that because they are actually fine with it? Everybody plays along? Which would be worse.
2:01 two different things. I hate when people try and justify serious actions by comparing it to other actions. Don't get me wrong bullying is wrong and serious but to compare it to S Assault?!! That's madness honestly speaking.
This is crazy for some reason i mever liked teil just his voice i watched the nct life episodes all of them he is usually quiet and he only talks when someone else talks i thought that was wierd maybe he wanted to keep his image as pure as possible .so crazy
While going this shit on how his co memebers are okay and promoting their stuff, they should take good rest of themselves I mean this things also hard for them yo digest
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans.
Most people can't believe he'd do something so horrible because of the innocent image he portrayed to all of us. His whole demeanor and public image was quite unassuming and child like. I mean this guy was hiding some demons for real when you think about it. He really should of went into acting to keep up this charade for this long. Out of all the members of NCT, Taeil would be the last member I'd think would do something so horrible. All that talent gone to waste along with his life, reputation, and career. I hope he gets some serious time in prison because a slap on the wrist would be a slap in the face for the victim if he doesn't.
I'm not defending him but this case has me confused and we don't know what is true and what is false but still I understand that we do not know these kpop idols [ especially the men ] personally and that is it and not everyone makes them guilty of these things .
Soooo, are they investigating the other 2 guys as well? I don't hear anything about them. People claim SM is sketchy for being silent, but we don't hear anything about the other guys involved. Is she only going after Taeil or all? And the silence surrounding all 3 of the accused sounds more like the police wants to keep this silent, NOT SM
3:03 Hopefully, none of those involved in Molka and Burning Sun got a sentence longer than 5 years... JJY is free and harassing women. I hope the court gives an appropriate sentence this time
And if he don't tell who the orher is then he get higer sentenc if they don't already know who those other is. That he could go on in the daylight like nothing to be that discusting when he knows that he had fans that loved him and then do this, he burned the bridge emidiatly
@@love_hw4ng11 So don't say that it should be proven if it is true when it has already been proven that it is true even the taeil himself confirmed it.
Music industry across the board has some shady things going on. P Diddy, who gr00med Usher, the numerous kpop artists that have had interactions with said artists, such a tangled web. Remember, these people's "persona" they play in front of the world is NOT necessarily who they are behind closed doors.
While going this shit on how his co memebers are okay and promoting their stuff, they should take good rest of themselves I mean this things also hard for them to digest
I've always thought about the misogyny and that all these teen fans are envisioning some K Drama romantic scene. I am wondering what the effect of having the sasaengs stalking you and the fans not letting you date, the patriarchal views of women and the lack of freedom to to socialize easily and normally with the opposite sex does to these young people. None of that excuses any horrible behavior on Taeil's but I am curious as to how it might have exaggerated or compounded the behavior.
I wonder how many others are still free after committing s** crimes and still acting cute and meet female fans? It really makes me worried worried. Specially after watching the burning sun documentary 😢
The way k pop and k dramas were making me see korea with rose colured classes. I was always like no my idols cant do no wrong but now i have opened my eyes .I was even like i wanna go to South korea but nope i will pass.
Please be strong. I understand your feeling coz Kris Wu was once my biased in Exo days even I left fandom when he left Exo and support him in his solo careers but then he betrayed us in the end💔 💔 These guys are monsters✖️
@@azimiza1210 Sorry, just try not to be too biased and support people who you think deserve your support. It might go wrong, it might build a great relationship.
I didnt know much about taeil because i started stanning and became nctzen a bit late. Im glad i became nctzen because i love jaehyun, doyoung, mark but i dont knoe much about taeil. I have never been to fan meets or met taeil thank god🙂i cant believe he did that😰
Same. I also became Nctzen late, and actually know almost nothing about him except his voice. I became fan in Fact check era, by watching their live performance of Fact check in TV (when Taeil was hiatus). Also my bias is Doyoung, and Jaehyun. Thank god he was hiatus. justice for the victim.
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds I also didn’t like him that much in the first place. By checking out their live stages in Fact check era, I noticed NCT 127 has very good vocals even without him. other members(Doyoung, Jaehyun, Haechan, Jungwoo and Yuta) can sing very well but SM always gave iconic vocal parts to Taeil. So other members, especially Doyoung, didn’t had much chance to show their ability in 127 songs. Their vocals were always used as a build up for Taeil’s highlight. I mean, Doyoung isn’t very far from Taeil’s skills and range. I always thought Doyoung and other members deserve more appreciation for their vocals, too. I know I may sounded kinda weird or delusional but I really had to say this.
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds yes. They are amazing…! And I think I kinda understand the bad energy you are talking about. Cause my friend (she’s not Nctzen) also said he gives dark energy and he looks like he is hiding something. She said this many month ago wayyyy before the scandal. I didn’t agreed her. to me, he just looked normal. I guess some people including you and my friend can notice bad energy that normal people can’t.
The reactions of young fans blows my mind. Maybe if the companies would allow their artists to lead normal lives outside of their already crazy work schedules, and fans would get a freaking grip that these idols don't belong to them, things like this would be less likely to happen. If you don't let people have normal life experiences, including relationships and sex, they can become twisted, depressed, suicidal, and make really bad choices. Do you all think it is just coincidental that there is a high percentage of depression and suicide in the idol world? Yes, crime is wrong, but just as when someone is starving, there is some compassion for them stealing food...doing drugs, smoking, gambling, and yes, even criminal sexual behavior does not usually come out of nowhere. The companies need to be held accountable too. And the crazy/obsessive fans.
Addition : I am not defending him because there's NO WAY he has left. I feel sooooo bad for the victim and am scared myself because I am a girl too. I really really really hope that my other comment reaches him. Rot in jaeil.
My question is, the original statement that was released said it happened 6 years ago. The recent statement just makes it worse adding 2 more people to it. Are they going to be charged as well?
I get everyones frustration but even for Korea 7 years is a pretty high sentence considering how they treat SA crimes, korea usually doesn't even give jail time to SA perpetrators. I also feel they should give him more time but knowing korea😒.
He is not the only one! There are so many renowned idols going arround doing this , and even more horrific disgusting thing ! They all acts like saints until they are trapped. We will get to see a lot of famous faces in future!!!
That girl was lucky enough to report to a police officer who actually does their job. Taeil being famous, i would have imagined that the police would just shrug this off the rug, just like how the burning sun criminals befriended a police officer. I hope taeil rots in jail.
So even after the huge 'Burning Sun' scandal male kpop artists still haven't learnt any lessons... I'm sure Taeil isn't the only one either.
Im sure there are even more idols who do stuff like this, it is the hard truth
What will they learn when the "Burning sun" perpetrators everyone are out now! Living their life! Everything is sickening no one will learn lessons as the korean justice system is a sh*t
why would they learned any lesson lol they are male ...
@@waeeeezeeeee The world is sadly like that and nothing can change it
@@Anonymous_Person63 Hey, not just idols. Who set up these women’s flesh clubs? They’ve been going long, long, long before the very first ever idol. Think about it. It’s considered a “manly” thing to do, by Korean men. Their right.
So will he actually have a strict punishment or get a slap on the wrist like all the other s offenders? Prayers for the victims, I hope that his psychotic fans leave them alone.
Most likely he'll get a slap on the wrist
Only 7 years? The sentence is too low, we see Seungri out and partying just like before. Korea should change 🍇 sentences. Such people deserve life imprisonment or 25 years atLEAST.
@@gia42472 Seungri is exactly who I thought of hearing this. Korea favors 🍇ists. Meanwhile that ex Exo member is serving 13 years for his. Never thought I’d side with how China does justice.
@@soleia143 Yeah. Korea is something else! Sort of medieval meets the Puritans meets Beverley Hills meets the open windows on the top floor. 👺
@@MoonstoneStarChaser yet the government is trying so hard to essentially bribe people to have kids now because of the embarrassingly low birth rate 🤭 they need to reassess a lot it seems. Saw men might be exempt if they have kids now 🤦🏼♀️ on top of the monetary incentive to marry. The desperation is real, yet the logical answers aren’t options.
I'm sorry but the person that defended by saying it was probably a "minor guilt" is so stupid to me. SA is SA there's nothing minor about stuff like that.
Normally I would agree with the person who said that you shouldn't judge too quick, but given the seriousness and quantity of the accusations, you have to say that there must be something to it. Of course, it's always possible that things are being embellished, but even if that's the case, it's still serious enough. SA is SA. It should ALWAYS be taken seriously.
@@binarina_xx This was exactly my train of thought. I usually don't want to judge too quick, in fear of it being false claims, but SA is one of those things I just can't condone whether it's allegations or already confirmed. It just makes me feel sick.
@@murata..But that is where the problem is, no one knows for sure what he did or if it is true or not. SA is something serious too. Those who get falsely accused suffer a lot too.
what does minor guilt even mean ?
@@boho0114 Something that's not that big of a deal I'm assuming?
okay 7 years is not enough!!!...but can we talk about how he SAed 1 woman and gets 7 years or life sentence - meanwhile seungri who had a whole human trafficking ring got 3 and even got out earlier so its not even in his records...bc it was less than 2.5 years what is going on there
It’s horrific, but probably the people backing Seungri because they’re public figures. They need to get the chair
South Korea= disgusting India 2.0 who pro rapist
Money talks
Money talk seungri had group of people backing he needs to be put in jail again
That's KOREA . We call our country a 'Men's paradise'. not for women. I'm glad to finally everybody know that now. so Sick and tire of this shit.
Gang rape? What cruel. As everyone, I presumed his crime should be really serious. Just like the Kris Wu case (he was basically a serial rapist). This case is just as cruel. I hope we never see his face in the industry again.
I don't believe
True. We see so many examples of male idols who did disgusting things, and even though keep working normally in the entertainment industry as nothing happen. It's completely insane how people can keep supporting these guys.
@@Ana-eo3fs Alhamdulillah God keep exposing kpoop Idols aka Israhell fantard. Killuminati by Tupac.
I hope he never sees the light of day
I don't believe
1:55 GARAM? that girl was only accused of bullying... Taeil was accused of a literal CRIME. Do not bring my girl into this...
“My girl” sis she’s not an idol anymore no need to get parasocial. KIDDING! this is a justified call out tbh because it’s not like Garam was actually bullying her classmates, people make it seem like she was the inspiration for the main bully girl in The Glory (;>_
@princessdollgf yes she was innocent it wasn't bullying she was defending her friend who was photographed almost naked without her consent by a bully
Bullying is just an initial step to bully someone to put up with these sh!t. Do not bring your simpleton opinion into this…
Just saying, bullying should also be a crime
exactly!! garam was literally ONLY defending her friend who was being harrased by the other girl. comparing that to A GRAPIST is insane to me... @@princessdollgf
As a victim of gang SA I'm completely floored by this, I'm horrified. My thoughts go out to the victim.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that 💔
you must feel completely mad considering if you are fan of kpop and been through something like this.
@@Brown-eyed-BS Thank you for your kindness.
@@robynbrowne1277 I wish the best for the victim, it's so awful. I'm really shocked!
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I wish you all the best in your future. I hope you can heal🙏
May you always be healthy❤
I feel bad for the victim (s).
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurllllgirl why should someone do it for fame💀 This is a literally crime and i dont think someone would report something like that to the police to get attention. Stop defending him.
@@taeraaee_ neither I m his fan nor I m defending him... I belong to india .. where I have seen many times a lady report fake cases on Celeb to bring them down .. or for money .. just saying anyway ... the Investigation is still on ... n there are only 2 probability
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurllll If that what's you think, you are almost as bad as he is. These is why so many women don't come forward. Because of people like you who take the side of the victimizer and shame the victim.
@@ShanaJahsintaWalters it's just that there are people like U WHO LIVE UNDER A ROCK if u see there are lakhs of cases where a women has blamed celeb for money or frame... so ofcourse there are chances here also... I m a daughter of a police .... I try to see every side... unlike u ... and I m not blaming any one .. now the women nor the idol... the investigation will tell the truth... and If u can't talk nicely just shut up... can u bear the consequences of the allegations u put on me 🙄🙄why do people like u even exist ... I hope u understand that I m quite offended
@@Snehal.sunshine..gurlllldo you know how hard it already is to come out and say that its rape? Do you know how much humiliation it causes nobody does it for fun
i feel really bad for the victim and for the whole group.
Ever since Rotten Mango came out my view of kpop has changed, back when i was still a teen i found male idols incredibly wholesome and refused to believe any of it was scripted, but now that i've kinda matured.. i no longer find myself obsessed with anything that is human..
Yeah me too. After i get to know about her channel the image of kpop i always had in my mind completely changed
im glad you guys found out because it gets worse. a lot of these ppl have issues and when you mix in fame and fortune it amplifies who a person is.
What I hate about K-pop (and the music industry in general) is human worship and child exploitation.
Which podcast episode u r talking about?
Right… I think something changed in us all in 2019 and from then on out (I was 15/16 learning that these “oppas” are not always who they say they are). Never trust anyone to be fully innocent
Average girl group scandal: Lazy dancing, gaining weight, beathing in the same direction as male idol
Average boy group scandal: A literal crime
Edit: Some of y'all lack basic reading comprehension skills... 1. Average does not mean all 2. I am talking about Kpop scandals SPECIFICALLY mentioning crimes women committed outside of kpop is irrelevant. 3. Boy group stans in replies trying to make it seem like men are oppressed in anti-feminist and conservative country of South Korea is funny af. Lmao in your dreams. It's giving men commenting "not all men" under EVERY SINGLE post about grape case. If you don't know why this behaviour is problematic there are countless of very informative videos out there.
literally like wtf.
This one. But watch fans virtually witch hunting these poor women.
It’s *weight btw
@@HopeeInk autocorrect.... tnx I will change it
@@HopeeInk But it was spelled correctly
2024 is horrific! As a NCTzen I'm broke that he was my bias.. Justice for the victim!
i feel so bad for the victims im disgusted by taeil..
A complex co existence of disrespect towards women on a national scale and the existence of this dark problem, but only illegal for artists and entertainers. Politicians wouldn’t be charged. I think - if true- Taeil should go down. But this is Korea.
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, kris wu, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans. 🤦♀️
@@demonghost8232 Latinoamerican women are quite misogynists like Muslims
@@demonghost8232😊
@@demonghost8232 what is wrong with these people. to think that the image of an idol blinds them so much from the monsters that are truly beneath those faces.....
@@armymatty5362 I think that as long as Koreans are handsome (and Korean obviously) they will defend them, just like they defend and justify Kris Wu and Hyuna's husband. Surely if they were ugly like Diddy, no one would justify or defend them.
AHHHH!!!! NOOOO!!!!
I'm very very disturbed😰
That tweet you show, yes it's true i agree with the OP's tweet.
My prayers goes out to the victim.
I'm very disgusted and Scared.
@@gaileth8761i ain’t reading all that😭🙏
@@gaileth8761 look i don’t agree with the “wait until proven guilty” but if that’s your opinion (i didn’t read the whole thing)
Yeah I thought that@@chwuahyunjnn
His case is disgusting. He should be in Jail right now.
What he did to those women are unforgivable.
See, it's not all men, but it's all women who have been through some kind of trauma related to harassment so be cautious. Handsome is not equal to kind and nice. So please be safe out there, especially the young girls don't fall for traps without even knowing a person, you can't judge them as a good or bad because YOU FUCKING DON'T KNOW THEM ON PERSONAL LEVEL. So admire from afar, but stay on your guard around men even if it's your life-long crush or handsome idol.
absolutely , still suprised on the number of kpop fans whose eyes are now opening .
It's not even traps,most r4pe cases they target women who are coming back from work or at their HOMES ,sad men should have a curfew they should stay at home they simply have no place outside
Im scared of going out... I was followed by a man, cat called when i was a minor, and now I carry a grape alarm @niraxlevi9930
You spoke my thoughts 💯
I'm waiting for this case to appear on Rotten Mango. But I'm really disgusted by the fans who actually supported him even after he was literally kicked out. I'd like to believe that SM didn't know about it before since I do believe a company would take action immediately.
After seeing the joke that they called sentence that the Idols of burning sun recieved, I'm very optimistic that Taeil's also gonna get a joke, I mean a hard punishment. I mean com on Seungri got WHOLE 18 months for years and years of SA (if you don't know this sh*t was going on even before the club opened). And the victims? who cares about them? well definitly not South Korea and the law!
Seungri KNOWS people in the government. He knows who they are what they have done. He doesn’t even need to open his mouth and he’ll get support left and right. Even as a VIP I know this, and it’s the reason why I’m so mad he got close to nothing on his sentence. Even 5 years into debut he was already rubbing shoulders with the high ranking government officials and chaebols. I don’t think Taeil is as influential as you might think. Regarding sentencing he might get a mediocre sentence or the prosecution might level up the sentence and push for even harder sentence. We shall see.
@@yadiaag7771 You are right Seungri knows people in the government and probably his agency too. YG wasn't exactly innocent either.
What is the joke? Idols of burning sun? I don't get it🤔what are you saying? And who is seungri
@@Belectraaaa There was a huge scandal involving Seungri at his club called the Burning Sun. Seungri is a former member of a Korean boy group named big bang. Him and a few more members from other boy groups were convicted of doing heinous crimes to women. Most of the involved served prison sentences and retired from the Korean entertainment industry. You can try searching for more information if you need it.
@@angelanam793 yeah I just searched😰😲omg that was wild and crazy
Wow ! Suga’s scooter incident comes to mind. They condemned him to the fullest for driving a friggin scooter after drinking with friends. It’s laughable. I wonder if the reporters will humiliate Taeil when he enters the police station also. So this guy gang rapes, and everything was kept hush hush. I’m appalled in how the Korean public deals with all this crap. I feel very sorry for the victim. Nobody deserves that. I hope this guy pays for his crime.
Suga is a member of BTS and Taeil is from SM. Of course the Korean media and netizens wouldn't spent their time bashing Taeil. Sad reality. I feel sorry for his victim or maybe victimS.
He already is being condemned and rightfully so. It's a disgusting, and horrible thing he did. We however need to stop creating even more drama and saying things like, 'Suga got this and this other person didn't." This Taeil news is more recent and new things are coming to light. He'll face the consequences for his actions.
I think people might also tall more about the Suga situation as he is more famous and well known. I even know a lot about BTS and the members and I'm not even a fan (I do however enjoy their variety show appearances alot😊) all that said, I can also understand where fans are coming from when some artists are crucified for something while others aren't. Last think I can say is, I have my faves in Kpop, they are even from and SM and RBW, but I will always stand behind the real victim. If it came to light that my faves were involved in something illegal, I will in no way defend them.
@@Ming3484
People, kfans or Armys didn't defend Yoongi. They acknowledged his mistake ''crime'' of not knowing the law in his particular case. They didn't understand the Knetizens ferocity regarding the incident, with no victims, with no real danger on the sidewalk. I mean ok it's his fault, so punish him by the law. But the righteous Koreans asked to be punished with 5 years in prison, when the minimum that a rapist can face is 7 years in the same prison? How come their brain cells are working that way? They must be in real pain living with that mind set.
In August, in two weeks Kmedia produced more than 1400 articles for a ''DUI'' case, that was actually a RUI case, because he was riding an foldable electric keyboard. Is that more dangerous that a gang rape in Korea? How many articles do you know about Taeil's case in the last months?
BTS is more famous than NCT? We are supposed to blame someone who broke the law, acknowledging how famous he is or how serious his deed is?
Fans or not for both idols, let's don't mistake their crimes. One is a drunk erider, and the other is a gang rapist. If what Yoongi did was wrong, what Taeil did it is far more wrong, dangerous, and serious regarding a woman potential NCT/SM fan.
Kmedia defend sm artist so bad and just despise hybe artist ig
@@mona.cabocmona303 Sorry but, ARMYS did defend Yoongi, even worldwide for that matter. It was proven that people from other fandoms , or haters , posed as ARMY to ask for him to be removed from BTS, get a prison sentence etc… They condemned him for riding a goddam foldable electric scooter after drinking. Was it a good thing to do? Of course not. Was it a crime compared to Taeil’s ? Hell no ! Yoongi didn’t deserve to be humiliated by those reporters like he was when he showed up at the police station . When it comes to Taeil’s case…..he deserves whatever he gets, and I hope he does prison time for the type of crime he committed.
He did the crime so he must do the time and face the consequences of his actions and face the music
And to the victims hope they can get through it and be strong 💪🏾
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans.
@@demonghost8232 wow that’s just sad that they still defend him and the burning sun fans still defend the dudes who were involved as well like come on now
@@demonghost8232No one is defending him, but no one knows for sure yet. Don’t go accusing others of defending him!
How do you know for sure he did it?
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj because he admit
I feel bad for Garam and soojin tho
They were accused of them doing somthing wrong too but it was false accusation and people started attacking them. Garam was still young and only was 2weeks in debut. This is crazy. I wonder if there is more male idols hiding from us, i hope not. What Taeil did was very wrong. It was disgusting and it was a.gang rape too. I feel bad for the victim.
Right like a 16 year old gets false accusations of being a school bully and kpop fans collectively bully her out of the group meanwhile an idol gets confirmed police accusations of sa and the fans try to pretend it’s nothing?
@SweetforS exactly. No wonder nobody likes us kpop stans
Not just male idols but most Korean men. There's Nth rooms still going around and being created. Elementary, high school, and college students (women) aren't really that safe.
@jlizard8500 who's us ? It's just boy group stans who make up the majority ,i hate boy group stans a lot they literally worship men and we all know what ego does to men
@@YesPhoPlz Korean men are one of the reasons why south korea has low birth rate because women don't feel safe enough, it's sad.
The fact that none of the k-media covered his case shows how sick this industry is!!!! like not a SINGLE ARTICLE is posted on any k-media !?!## even other idols not showing any support for the victim make my heart hurt so bad they're just promoting their groups like nothing is going on in the korean industry is so SICKKKKKKKKKKKKK
ok but lets be fr no idol is gonna pull up w a tweet saying, 'to nct taeils victim, i wish you recover quickly, thank you'.. their job literally prevents them from talking about these sorts of topics publicly even if they want to.. u can't blame them and call them sick for that its the korean industry itself that is the problem 😁😁....
agree
Well it’s not the idols job but as for the media it is definitely sus that they didn’t mention anything
People should realize how the Media works, they will cover up whatever they want and let you know what they want you to know and manipulated, never the whole truth. I think SM has asked them for it, they have power over the Media
Fans seem to have unrealistic expectations on idols. They are here to entertain their audience. They are not news reporters or politicians who have to voice out their opinions on everything. Fans shouldn't put extra burden on their already heavy workloads.
Usually by the time a predator is caught they have committed the crime before. How many silent victims are there?
If people choose to defend after finding out about this they are truly lost causes. I feel disgusting and sick to my stomach just reading the article.
女性安全真的很重要 希望受害者可以痊愈。有研究数据显示，很多性犯罪的受害者很难在心理上痊愈，很感谢这位姐姐站出来说出自己的遭遇。他对不起受害者 对不起粉丝 对不起NCT 更对不起以前努力练习的自己。为什么一定要犯罪呢？？
I'm sorry I stereotype Koean men. I know there are decent men in Korea. It's normal that every country has good and bad. But damn! the amout of disgusting men in Korea is huge.
Es cierto...
😢@@americabenitez677
ur so valid tho bc imo hot take korea has got to be one of the most misogynistic, racist and homophobic countries out there like that shi is deeply rooted into the people. like imma be so fr most korean men you meet will probably fit the stereotype u have of them so u fine girl u have a point..
That's nonsence there are horrible men in the west y'all only come at asians
There aren't decent Muslim men, you are wrong. Good people are not equity distributed
Seriously... I could never imagine that Taeil could do something this shocking and disgusting. Even when I heard that he was removed from the group, I thought that there are a lot of cases like that in the kpop industry where idols were removed and the accusations were proved wrong thereafter, but hearing that he is cooperating with the police simply means that he has now no way to hide what he has done. I was like.. about to start stanning him terribly when I started taking full interest in NCT 127, and there was the song "Walk" I like the most up till now. I liked him as an idol so so much although he was not that famous and so I kinda empathised with him and started stanning him and NCT 127. But, when I came across the dance practise video and recording of "Walk", I saw him nowhere. So I searched "did taeil get into an accident or did he go on hiatus right after the mv of walk released ?", and... I came across the big huge gigantic case going on. I couldn't believe and thought maybe they are just haters and stuff, but then I saw people tearing and burning card and pictures... Wow Taeil I cannot believe what you have done. I seriously want you to continue but you have done something unforgivable. Think about the life of the victim ! Where's your sanity gone bro I don't want to hate you but I have to hate you. You never needed to do something like that. Your pleasure was with the team, not the physical pleasure you wanted or whatever. My thinking ends there, where I start to think why in the world would someone like to ruin their whole career and make someone's life a living hell... Justice for the innocent victim, heal peacefully please. 🙏🏻
He hasn't been dancing for the last year because of an injury, it's not related to this criminal case. If it was, then SM would be in some deep shit for knowing about the case for a full year and doing nothing.
@@rachelmaddowswife8713 oh... ok sorry i didn't know
I can feel your pain. NCT is my ult group and I stan them since debut, so basically since 2016, I was in highschool.. I litterally grew up with them and Taeil had a special place in my heart because of his unique humor, his voice and mindset. I remember Jungwoo saying he would give his sister to Taeil-hyung so he surely hide his true personality very well even towards his members. What an evil man. Just put him in jail now even though it is still hard to believe this..
You do not need to hate anyone, but you should not support him anymore
throwing up brb
u ok pookie T_T
No seriously why the hell these Idols feels the need to ra** women like bruh you are a handsome famous kpop idols there will be some open minded females who wouldn’t mind to have a casual nights with you guys. So Why the f*** you mfers going around a treat women like nothing. This is soo upsetting. And SK law please respect your women. ( i am sorry in advance if I offended anybody with my sentences or words sorry you guys I just need to let it out)
They hate women that’s why. The point isn’t simply to have intercourse. For a lot of these men, taking something from a woman against her will, gives them a sense of power…it’s disgusting
because it’s not about having sex, it’s about having control over someone, humiliating them, and feeling accomplished that they’re tricking everyone else by being a “good guy” in front of everyone else
Just because he's handsome and famous in K-pop doesn't mean he doesn't get those kinds of comments.🙄
Lols when an idol gave in to a female fan, there are psychos who wanted to baby cage idols as well. Sometimes, if an idol doesn't want anymore, she will begone blackmailing him 😂
Power and entitlement
Eww. Was it so hard not to be a horrible human being? All that fame and money, yet he wanted more. Hope he gets life in prison ❤
This is about Taeil, someone who committed sexual assault. Where did you come to the conclusion it was because he wanted more fame and money and if so how would his actions of sexual assault correlate with that? It’s not making I’m richer lmao
@Kpophistorianti im saying the average person would have been happy just being in his position But he decided to ruin a lady's life. My bad for confusing you
2:23 original news starts from
I thought i posted but I don't see it so if there are duplicates I apologize. I am highly concerned about the number of incidents like this around the world. With this and the Hollywood and Diddy similar scandal going on in the united states, I am terrified about how many cases are unknown around the world. It is truly evil.
Comparing an S case to garam is vile lmao. If the police summoned him for questioning, that means he's been accused of a literal crime bro. Kim Garam was 16 years old and falsely accused of school bullying, defended by her company with proof, then got thrown out because knets were noisy about it. How is that at in the same realm.
My stomach has completely flipped over. I'm so disgusted by his actions and I feel so hurt and betrayed as Nct are my ult group. I only hope that the victim(s) receive the justice they deserve and Taeil is punished for the horrible acts he has committed.
much respect to the victim for coming forward and filing a police report. its sad to think this may not have been the first time, but maybe the first time someone has filed charges against him.
All these idols have close-in security/or management... how can all these things be unnoticed?
That is crAZY. 7 years in jail is nothing, 10 at least
I can't even digest these kind of news anymore
Hope they provide complete evidence and prove he is guilty soon
He is guilty
@@niraxlevi9930How do you know that?
From TAEIL to JAEIL
I'm shocked. No fame, no money of the world, can himself saved for justice. That only worked on movies, not in real life.
Omg you're still naive, money will save him unfortunately, he's getting 4 years ,4!!! Basically nothing, a slap on the wrist
@@niraxlevi9930 4 years? It's more about here in Germany! Here you didn't need money, you say: "I'm so sorry! I never do it again!" Or any thing... Taaaa daaaaa... You a good boy and get free or you get in a therapy. And the media, blame the victim. "She want it" "She it's a B^#(! - What happend?!" That's the true in Germany. That's the politic from the german politicians. And I'm a German woman and I didn't feel me save any more, in my own country. So high penalty it's a dream
HE'S GOING DOWN FOR LIFE
HIM AND PDIDDY!!! GETTING READY TO ROT IN JAIL
7 years what is that..??? It has to be more than 10 or 15
I hope he receive proper jail time because 4yrs is nothing compare to what he did.
So disgusting, i feel bad for the group, if one member did something bad the whole group is going to suffer, if not from the public but mentaly.
Them other members are misogynistic at best and just like him at worse honey, they're korean men after all
What is going with these men doing ish to these woman and acting like they didn't do a damn thing like come on how can you just wake up and go to a fan meet or do a concert knowing you just ganged raped or beat a woman where da phuck is their mental state going this is 🤢 sickening
NCT is my ult bias group but I'm sorry I can't defend him this is way to serious for me. Ever since I heard about in on August 28th I couldn't defend him I mean at first I believed it wasn't true but I couldn't convince myself. I will love NCT no matter what but I can't support him anymore. However I will miss him for who he was not who he became. Hopefully other czennies will keep supporting NCT and not blame the other members because they deserve and need a lot of support right now ANF some fans are dropping NCT and are happy that they are "falling apart" as NCT. I do find it disgusting that people find him more attractive after this if anything it is extremely unattractive and just plain out terrible and gross. I kind of feel guilty myself because I loved Taeil I mean he wasn't in my bias list but I did love and support him. The victim of this terrible disgusting crime which never should have happened to her, she does deserves justice and support. She certainly has mine.
I will always support and love NCT as a whole including NCT Wish and even though they aren't apart of NCT, RIIZE and Lucas as a solo artist. 💚💚💚💚💚
You ''will miss him for who he was, not for who he became''? It's that a joke?
Do you think last year he was another man? Or two years ago? It was a teenager who accused him of Sexual Offence that happened 6 years ago, but police didn't find enough evidences. Do you think that was a joke? Men don't became rapists suddenly, they are going on a long road of little offences and abuses over women, even if is only in their mind, and when they are more confident they will act.
I mean that, all the men can do it, but not all the men will do it.
You'll just miss him for who you thought he was. He was a monster all along. And even that reasoning is stupid unless this is about you cursing him in your memory.
He was like this all the time , what do you mean by who he was ?? Really ??
@@themoon.9960 Exactly those words.
@@mona.cabocmona303 Yep, this 100%. Also, 6 yrs ago, he would've been 24 years old. I hope this commenter can put that into her perspective too.
OMLLLLL THIS IS CRAZY..... HE WAS MY FAVORITE MEMBER!!!!!!
good video thank you a lot!!
Thank you ❤️
Because of this now I'm just scared. There are literally so many male kpop idols and my ults are boy bands. What should i do?? Imagine if one of them turned out to be a criminal. I would be heartbroken and im sure all the fans and the rest of the group (like what happened with t@eil)
They're misogynistic at best that's enough for you not to support boy groups, plus most boy groups suck music wise ,Don't support men,they hate women it's the hard truth that you have to accept and that i struggled a lot to accept myself each time i give them a chance they prove me wrong and turn out worse than the other
I don't remember who said it, it was a Korean-American, he said that when a Korean celebrity is accused, the police also inform the company because the job of celebrities in South Korea is to be the public face of the country so the law requires them to inform the company too, not just the accused. SM had to know that
This happened so fast, i'm praying for the victim.
i you'st to be a BIG ''Taeil Stan* now i have thrown out all of my merch of him.
this happened a few months ago
Meanwhile poor Seunghan had a girlfriend and smoked a cigarette years ago and is being treated worse than the ones who participated in real atrocities.
I don't know what to say I admired him as my idol he was my bias it hurts knowing that he did this.
I give up on kpop. He was my top bias, liked and supported him from rookies era. Bought his albums everything. I give up. I don’t trust any celeb nor will I obsess over them anymore
I hope he go to jail
The woman could be lying to ruin his career. There is still NO actual evidence.
@@SethZhao-oj8fm accept it , he ruined her life .
@@SethZhao-oj8fmnope. sm wouldn’t just remove him and stuff like that. We have to accept some idols aren’t as they seem
@@SethZhao-oj8fmHe himself admitted that if he did it, don't defend him
@@demonghost8232When did he admit it? Honestly, who is THAT stupid to admit to something like this? Just like in a car accident, who is dumb enough to admit fault?
I would like to point out that people should stop the whole “foreign fans vs k-fans” thing as if westerners don’t know anything. Yes, there are those who forget cultural differences, but at the end of the day, it’s not just westerners who idolize kpop. Especially not when the culture of kpop where netizens raise hell just from a male idol and a female idol smile at each other started within Korea and the K entertainment industry. It’s 2024, it’s no longer “foreigners vs knetizens” pov. It’s fans as whole, period.
With that being said, seven years is nothing. He and the acquaintances do deserve strict punishment.
This is more insane than I thought! 😬
yeah, i really can't believe he did this.
I appreciate that this news story was fact based and not speculation about unknowns. That is what news is supposed to be. That is not what you always get.
I hope he gets what he deserves.... He is so sick and I feel so bad for the girl and my heart goes out to her
Don't wanna compare with suga case.. but allow me to do it... what's wrong with Koreans??.. so much hatred for Suga misbehavior.. hope this guy will have the same treatment or even more
He has been scorned. Even NCT fans hate him.
I think part of the disproportion in news coverage is because he’s not popular btw. He is one of the least popular. None of my Korean family knows who NCT is even but they know BTS.
Suga is highly regarded WORLDWIDE so people were ready to slam him.
Apa sih? Bawa suga di lapak idol lain. Kasus suga sudah selesai.
What are you talking about?? Taeil has already been receiving 1000x more hate and disgust. As he should.
Suga got some petty hate and assumptions but that was it and it was nothing much in comparison.
? I think your confusing the wide range of netizens for the law and punishment of these situations.
Y’all are so unserious. Do you think people are taking this lightly? This news just came out less than 24 hrs
Again not what he has done but what he is accused of. Not if the charges are upheld, but if he is guilty. Too many false accusations and lies so again need to prove guilt in Korean for me to believe. If he is found guilty 💯 he should be punished.
Watch Suga being threatened with harsh punishments, but this guy not catching any heat. Guys, wake up!
He is catching heat on x
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds Finally, maybe. This has been swept under the rug for months...
@@Sherluck93 I have a big following on x so I made a comment about him a person replied under my post saying “we don’t care about the victim we want to have s3x with him” when I saw that comment I felt disgusted that someone would make a comment like that
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds That would be the normal reaction to a comment like that. But it's just one out of many, I'd guess. I'm sorry people write stuff like that though! So, are they trying to cover it up or don't they even need to do that because they are actually fine with it? Everybody plays along? Which would be worse.
@@Sherluck93 a couple days ago pannchaco Koreaboo posted about the new update & people are flaming him
2:01 two different things. I hate when people try and justify serious actions by comparing it to other actions.
Don't get me wrong bullying is wrong and serious but to compare it to S Assault?!! That's madness honestly speaking.
the amount of times i flicked off the screen whenever his face popped up 😁😁😁😁💪
real, I wanted to buy his merch just so it was off the market, so I could burn it >:D
@@keilahdugan0613 even if u buy it will generate money for him or the company so better not to waste your hard earned money on them.
This is crazy for some reason i mever liked teil just his voice i watched the nct life episodes all of them he is usually quiet and he only talks when someone else talks i thought that was wierd maybe he wanted to keep his image as pure as possible .so crazy
I never liked him either, it would really mess with you if this was your bias, blech.
I ignored him it was like he’s invisible
While going this shit on how his co memebers are okay and promoting their stuff, they should take good rest of themselves I mean this things also hard for them yo digest
I still can't believe he would do that. Just sad all around.
The worst thing is that very few fans continue to defend Taeil, just as they justify Burning Sun fans. There are many international and Latin American fans who continue to defend and justify not only Taeil but also Burning Sun fans.
@@demonghost8232No one is defending him but many are still lost and unsure about what is true and what is not.
@@demonghost8232 Those fans are the most disgusting part about it.
Most people can't believe he'd do something so horrible because of the innocent image he portrayed to all of us. His whole demeanor and public image was quite unassuming and child like. I mean this guy was hiding some demons for real when you think about it. He really should of went into acting to keep up this charade for this long. Out of all the members of NCT, Taeil would be the last member I'd think would do something so horrible. All that talent gone to waste along with his life, reputation, and career. I hope he gets some serious time in prison because a slap on the wrist would be a slap in the face for the victim if he doesn't.
As a nctzen I'm disgusted with taeil and hope the victims heal ❤
I've seen lots of idols thrown out without evidence.
I'm not defending him but this case has me confused and we don't know what is true and what is false but still I understand that we do not know these kpop idols [ especially the men ] personally and that is it and not everyone makes them guilty of these things .
Soooo, are they investigating the other 2 guys as well? I don't hear anything about them. People claim SM is sketchy for being silent, but we don't hear anything about the other guys involved. Is she only going after Taeil or all? And the silence surrounding all 3 of the accused sounds more like the police wants to keep this silent, NOT SM
This
3:03 Hopefully, none of those involved in Molka and Burning Sun got a sentence longer than 5 years... JJY is free and harassing women. I hope the court gives an appropriate sentence this time
And if he don't tell who the orher is then he get higer sentenc if they don't already know who those other is. That he could go on in the daylight like nothing to be that discusting when he knows that he had fans that loved him and then do this, he burned the bridge emidiatly
This is so disheartening. I hope he gets punished accordingly and doesn’t get away with it.
He himself admitted that if he did it, don't defend him
@@demonghost8232 never defended him. i condemn him and what he did
@@love_hw4ng11 So don't say that it should be proven if it is true when it has already been proven that it is true even the taeil himself confirmed it.
@@demonghost8232 i wasn’t aware. i apologize (will edit :))
@@demonghost8232When did he admit it?
Music industry across the board has some shady things going on. P Diddy, who gr00med Usher, the numerous kpop artists that have had interactions with said artists, such a tangled web. Remember, these people's "persona" they play in front of the world is NOT necessarily who they are behind closed doors.
Diddy did way more than groom usher and JB.. like WAY more
While going this shit on how his co memebers are okay and promoting their stuff, they should take good rest of themselves I mean this things also hard for them to digest
I've always thought about the misogyny and that all these teen fans are envisioning some K Drama romantic scene. I am wondering what the effect of having the sasaengs stalking you and the fans not letting you date, the patriarchal views of women and the lack of freedom to to socialize easily and normally with the opposite sex does to these young people. None of that excuses any horrible behavior on Taeil's but I am curious as to how it might have exaggerated or compounded the behavior.
Idk what to feel anymore
I read a lot of nct fans saying, He was the last member the think that could do such thing, wow!
BM told us 😢
What is it?
What did he say?🤔
No he didn’t 💀he said idols are not who you think they are. Which is literally common sense. If you’re gonna make a statement like this be specific.
2024 is a crazy year!
I wonder how many others are still free after committing s** crimes and still acting cute and meet female fans? It really makes me worried worried. Specially after watching the burning sun documentary 😢
The way k pop and k dramas were making me see korea with rose colured classes. I was always like no my idols cant do no wrong but now i have opened my eyes .I was even like i wanna go to South korea but nope i will pass.
That's right don't believe everything u see on the internet...
I still can't believe it. He looked really docile and domestic
He was my bias 😢😢😢😢ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Please be strong. I understand your feeling coz Kris Wu was once my biased in Exo days even I left fandom when he left Exo and support him in his solo careers but then he betrayed us in the end💔 💔 These guys are monsters✖️
@@Seasonal-Kpopper the burning sun too 🤦♀️
Me too. And i was a huge fan of EXO’s Greasy Wu and that MF from FT Island. Why am i so bad at choosing bias.😢
@@azimiza1210 and the burning sun?
@@azimiza1210 Sorry, just try not to be too biased and support people who you think deserve your support. It might go wrong, it might build a great relationship.
I didnt know much about taeil because i started stanning and became nctzen a bit late. Im glad i became nctzen because i love jaehyun, doyoung, mark but i dont knoe much about taeil. I have never been to fan meets or met taeil thank god🙂i cant believe he did that😰
Same. I also became Nctzen late, and actually know almost nothing about him except his voice. I became fan in Fact check era, by watching their live performance of Fact check in TV (when Taeil was hiatus). Also my bias is Doyoung, and Jaehyun. Thank god he was hiatus.
justice for the victim.
@@Nei_its_mewhen I became a fan in 2018-19 I didn’t like him when ever he was their I ignored his presence he just gave bad energy
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds I also didn’t like him that much in the first place.
By checking out their live stages in Fact check era, I noticed NCT 127 has very good vocals even without him. other members(Doyoung, Jaehyun, Haechan, Jungwoo and Yuta) can sing very well but SM always gave iconic vocal parts to Taeil. So other members, especially Doyoung, didn’t had much chance to show their ability in 127 songs. Their vocals were always used as a build up for Taeil’s highlight.
I mean, Doyoung isn’t very far from Taeil’s skills and range. I always thought Doyoung and other members deserve more appreciation for their vocals, too.
I know I may sounded kinda weird or delusional but I really had to say this.
@@Nei_its_me Ik what you mean along with ten & xiaojun those are the best singers in the group
@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds yes. They are amazing…!
And I think I kinda understand the bad energy you are talking about.
Cause my friend (she’s not Nctzen) also said he gives dark energy and he looks like he is hiding something. She said this many month ago wayyyy before the scandal. I didn’t agreed her. to me, he just looked normal.
I guess some people including you and my friend can notice bad energy that normal people can’t.
The reactions of young fans blows my mind. Maybe if the companies would allow their artists to lead normal lives outside of their already crazy work schedules, and fans would get a freaking grip that these idols don't belong to them, things like this would be less likely to happen. If you don't let people have normal life experiences, including relationships and sex, they can become twisted, depressed, suicidal, and make really bad choices. Do you all think it is just coincidental that there is a high percentage of depression and suicide in the idol world? Yes, crime is wrong, but just as when someone is starving, there is some compassion for them stealing food...doing drugs, smoking, gambling, and yes, even criminal sexual behavior does not usually come out of nowhere. The companies need to be held accountable too. And the crazy/obsessive fans.
Justice for the victim!
It’s South Korea. All he has to do is say he had a drink to get out of this lol
Addition : I am not defending him because there's NO WAY he has left. I feel sooooo bad for the victim and am scared myself because I am a girl too. I really really really hope that my other comment reaches him. Rot in jaeil.
My question is, the original statement that was released said it happened 6 years ago. The recent statement just makes it worse adding 2 more people to it. Are they going to be charged as well?
I am sure there are many more other idols like him
Pls there are still kpop artist/exec/ceo that r doing it behind
There are other artists besides pdiddy and r Kelly who have committed crimes over here in the West.
There's that famous South Korean justice system at work again. Just 7 years for the crime of grape? I feel sorry for the women and children of Korea
I get everyones frustration but even for Korea 7 years is a pretty high sentence considering how they treat SA crimes, korea usually doesn't even give jail time to SA perpetrators.
I also feel they should give him more time but knowing korea😒.
This would be horrifly bad if we think other idols can be included in burning sun scandal
He is not the only one!
There are so many renowned idols going arround doing this , and even more horrific disgusting thing !
They all acts like saints until they are trapped.
We will get to see a lot of famous faces in future!!!
That girl was lucky enough to report to a police officer who actually does their job. Taeil being famous, i would have imagined that the police would just shrug this off the rug, just like how the burning sun criminals befriended a police officer. I hope taeil rots in jail.