Powerful reporting, I just love this interviewer, she is so intelligent and kind. This gentleman brought Norma's story to light, and it made me weep for her. We must all be compassionate towards one another. We are all brothers and sisters, we must protect one another, but none of us are a God , none of us have the right to force our religions upon another.
"We are all brothers and sisters, we must protect one another, but none of us are a God" Lovely, except you've left out someone. Who protects the child? If none of us are a God, why does the woman get to play God by deciding to kill the child? I'm not religious, I just had to point this omission out.
@@flomccanuck8095 let woman make decisions about her body and her doctors. Men should shut their mouth. That’s ridiculous men make their own rule for woman. Think about your grandma, your mom, your sisters, your daughter and your granddaughters. Religious is a poisonous for humanity, it’s atheist.
@@flomccanuck8095 if you were raped at the age of 12 and impregnated, should I be able to force you to carry that embryo or tell you that you committed murder if you chose to have an abortion? That is a question you must determine on your own.
Really appreciate the underlining of class in this discussion. It is a relevant observation that is often overlooked or ignored as part of the issue and consideration about abortion.
I really appreciate a guest on a PBS show bringing up class. Class warfare is a dominant theme in almost every element of American politics, along with race. But PBS and NPR seem to almost fear and dread broaching the subject, preferring instead to only reference race. Class matters too, and this needs emphasized in these spheres more, even if the viewership is wealthy and uncomfortable with it.
Along with race, class absolutely is a factor but I don't think it's just PBS or NPR - hardly anyone in the US seems to reckon with the role class plays. We seem to think we don't have a class system. I have been a viewer of PBS/NPR all of my life and am well-educated but am by no means wealthy, unable to afford living costs in most of the US. I think you might be making some assumptions about why the more progressive media does not frame the issue as classist. I think it really is about not really being cognisant of it.
Since abortion was legalized, Portugal saw the number of abortions go down 40% in the 10 years after. Abortion in Portugal is safe and legal in all cases since 2007.
Really good to relearn the human cost regarding the fight for the right to choose history. I was in the pro-choice movement in the 70s along with all women's rights that were denied us in all arenas. I never thought our society would regress back to the inhumane practice of forced birth or back room abortions. At age 17 I was raped, pregnant, illegal abortion paid for by my rapist, hemorrhaged, and nearly died. I still relive that dehumanizing event to this day. No female should be forced to have an illegal abortion or a forced birth. NO FORCE! We finally had the right to determine our reproductive healthcare among other personal freedoms and these old political relics have returned us to chatels needing permission from some man (primarily) who doesn't even know our name. Even more disgraceful in 2022 than it was in the 70s. So I'm fighting once again against fascist leaning bigots for the right of females to choose their own healthcare. Cruel, inhumane politics. 💙💙🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🗽🗽💙💙💯🌊🌊
Elizabeth Ramey-Estrada - So important! So clear, succinct, and to the point. Many still don't realise the issue is about FORCE. And the POWER of men over women. I feel for you. Thank you so much for sharing this. Time the US had a Healthcare System that is also free at the point of delivery. (I'm a UK citizen)
Looks like Norma used them also . My takeaway is that Norma would not have been my choice to raise a baby . When a woman tells you she can't be a mother society should believe her .
A women’s right to choose, should start with responsible contraception, not murder. I believe other than extreme circumstances, such as rape. Incest & the well being of the mother a women’s last choice should be adoption.
Joshua Prager remarks that both sides used Norma and then threw her away. It would seem to me from his remarks that she likewise used and milked both sides without fully vesting in either.......a choice to be a free-ranging chameleon of fortune. Very interesting interview. Thanks Amanpour and Co.
What's really interesting are the folks behind Roe decision. The two female Tx. attorneys: one married briefly, had the money to go to California where abortions were legal (6 states allowed) but chose to go to Mexico with husband to abort. The other lady lawyer was ggayy. Then, there was a third lawyer friend involved in the adoptions of Roes kids. His name McCluskey, was also advocating to overthrow TX soddommy laws. He was ggayy and found murdered by an acquaintance. A federal judge ( Hughes)& associate of this group also unsuccessfully tried to overthrow soddommyy laws. The abborrtion & ssoddommy cases were built on vague concept of right to privacy over contraceptives, Griswold v Conn. The folks behind Roe were tinkering with this vague idea and how far it could be stretched. Fake bs from the start. All had another agenda.
All humans love life, and because we do, we understanding why at some times life is not viable. Unviable life is tragic: sustaining unviable life is not human. Is it?
@Ndeye Delgado I had to look up your term "willful ignorance" and only found a clear definition in an "urban dictionary." This is what it says -- willful ignorance (noun) The practice or act of intentional and blatant avoidance, disregard or disagreement with facts, empirical evidence and well-founded arguments because they oppose or contradict your own existing personal beliefs. With that said, and regardless, your argument is fallacious. Sidney provides fact; your answer is rhetorical fallacy. It doesn't apply at all. In fact the sentence you use it in is not a sentence at all.
@Ndeye Delgado No one has a right to kill another person. A baby, whether unborn or born is a human being and should not be murdered. I think we all know that if we do not want a child we should do what we can to not get pregnant. But once pregnant, we have a responsibility to that baby.
@@Sarah-bu4bm 1/ What do you think that pregnancy is rape and incest? 2/ How do you define the viability of a fetus? Religion is a poison that wreaks havoc on man's individualism. Religion is forcing people to do what they want. Religion has caused grief and pain to mankind for thousands of years. If this world had no religion then mankind would have peace. Do you know Thomas Jefferson? He wanted to separate church and state. do you know why ? I'm an atheist, I don't believe in morality but I do believe in human conscience.
@@Sarah-bu4bm How do you apply what you said to the 10, 9, and 8 year Olds who get pregnant? This age may be a death sentence to the underdeveloped child.
A remarkable interview full of restraint and empathy.
Michel Martin is a treasure. What a great interviewer - always well-educated about the topic, but lets the guest tell the story.
Powerful reporting, I just love this interviewer, she is so intelligent and kind. This gentleman brought Norma's story to light, and it made me weep for her. We must all be compassionate towards one another. We are all brothers and sisters, we must protect one another, but none of us are a God , none of us have the right to force our religions upon another.
Well say, if American agrees with Thomas Jefferson “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE”, our country will be peace. ♥️
"We are all brothers and sisters, we must protect one another, but none of us are a God" Lovely, except you've left out someone. Who protects the child? If none of us are a God, why does the woman get to play God by deciding to kill the child? I'm not religious, I just had to point this omission out.
@@flomccanuck8095 let woman make decisions about her body and her doctors. Men should shut their mouth. That’s ridiculous men make their own rule for woman. Think about your grandma, your mom, your sisters, your daughter and your granddaughters. Religious is a poisonous for humanity, it’s atheist.
@@flomccanuck8095 if you were raped at the age of 12 and impregnated, should I be able to force you to carry that embryo or tell you that you committed murder if you chose to have an abortion? That is a question you must determine on your own.
@@flomccanuck8095 We each have to respect each other's reproductive and belief systems. We each get to control our own. 🇺🇲
Respect.
How enlightening. Thank you for this. The battle against choice seems to be a battle against the poor and downtrodden.
Stop fascism before it's too late!
Really appreciate the underlining of class in this discussion. It is a relevant observation that is often overlooked or ignored as part of the issue and consideration about abortion.
I really appreciate a guest on a PBS show bringing up class. Class warfare is a dominant theme in almost every element of American politics, along with race. But PBS and NPR seem to almost fear and dread broaching the subject, preferring instead to only reference race. Class matters too, and this needs emphasized in these spheres more, even if the viewership is wealthy and uncomfortable with it.
Along with race, class absolutely is a factor but I don't think it's just PBS or NPR - hardly anyone in the US seems to reckon with the role class plays. We seem to think we don't have a class system. I have been a viewer of PBS/NPR all of my life and am well-educated but am by no means wealthy, unable to afford living costs in most of the US. I think you might be making some assumptions about why the more progressive media does not frame the issue as classist. I think it really is about not really being cognisant of it.
Norma really did lead a rather sad life. Poverty is absolutely merciless and affects all aspects of a person's existence.
Thank U for educating us
How would men feel if women made decisions for men's bodies?
We’d be pissed!
@@ianchandley As well you should.
Your question hav been inquiring for long time but god didn’t answer and silent 😂
@@TranNguyenVungLay he was also silent on abortion
@@TranNguyenVungLay There is zero evidence that a god exists, you can't give an answer when you don't exist.
Since abortion was legalized, Portugal saw the number of abortions go down 40% in the 10 years after. Abortion in Portugal is safe and legal in all cases since 2007.
Excellent discourse. Finally a substative conversation/interview on abortion.
So sad. although, I want to thank you for the short bio, I NEVER KNEW. And you, young man are a beautiful old soul.
Really good to relearn the human cost regarding the fight for the right to choose history. I was in the pro-choice movement in the 70s along with all women's rights that were denied us in all arenas. I never thought our society would regress back to the inhumane practice of forced birth or back room abortions. At age 17 I was raped, pregnant, illegal abortion paid for by my rapist, hemorrhaged, and nearly died. I still relive that dehumanizing event to this day. No female should be forced to have an illegal abortion or a forced birth. NO FORCE! We finally had the right to determine our reproductive healthcare among other personal freedoms and these old political relics have returned us to chatels needing permission from some man (primarily) who doesn't even know our name. Even more disgraceful in 2022 than it was in the 70s. So I'm fighting once again against fascist leaning bigots for the right of females to choose their own healthcare. Cruel, inhumane politics.
💙💙🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🗽🗽💙💙💯🌊🌊
Elizabeth Ramey-Estrada - So important! So clear, succinct, and to the point. Many still don't realise the issue is about FORCE. And the POWER of men over women. I feel for you. Thank you so much for sharing this. Time the US had a Healthcare System that is also free at the point of delivery. (I'm a UK citizen)
Thank you for your testimony.
Women's Freedom Of Choice Will Never Go Away.
Might I add, [The fight for] "women's freedom of choice will never go away"
I think women who cannot keep a baby suffer, whether they give their baby away or have an abortion of a fetus.
What a tragic life life Norma had....It's sickening that both sides used her to achieve their own goals.
Shame on her attorney.
Looks like Norma used them also .
My takeaway is that Norma would not have been my choice to raise a baby .
When a woman tells you she can't be a mother society should believe her .
@@blackthornsloe8049 That's right. Motherhood should not be forced on anyone.
@@blackthornsloe8049 that’s my take away too. She flip flopped on her views for money.
A women’s right to choose, should start with responsible contraception, not murder. I believe other than extreme circumstances, such as rape. Incest & the well being of the mother a women’s last choice should be adoption.
Joshua Prager remarks that both sides used Norma and then threw her away. It would seem to me from his remarks that she likewise used and milked both sides without fully vesting in either.......a choice to be a free-ranging chameleon of fortune. Very interesting interview. Thanks Amanpour and Co.
Very interesting .
I’m adopted and it’s no pic-nick. I am a pro choice person.
“Religion is regarded by common peopl as true, by wise as fails, by rulers as useful” -
LUCIUS SENECA
Roman philosopher - 4BC - 65AD
Just ordered the book.
I’m pro life… I think there are exceptions. We all have a free will.
What's really interesting are the folks behind Roe decision. The two female Tx. attorneys: one married briefly, had the money to go to California where abortions were legal (6 states allowed) but chose to go to Mexico with husband to abort. The other lady lawyer was ggayy. Then, there was a third lawyer friend involved in the adoptions of Roes kids. His name McCluskey, was also advocating to overthrow TX soddommy laws. He was ggayy and found murdered by an acquaintance. A federal judge ( Hughes)& associate of this group also unsuccessfully tried to overthrow soddommyy laws. The abborrtion & ssoddommy cases were built on vague concept of right to privacy over contraceptives, Griswold v Conn.
The folks behind Roe were tinkering with this vague idea and how far it could be stretched. Fake bs from the start. All had another agenda.
Vote Blue 💙🌊 Protect Election Integrity & Women Rights!
All humans love life, and because we do, we understanding why at some times life is not viable. Unviable life is tragic: sustaining unviable life is not human. Is it?
Pro life is branding that led to Trump, pro choice has nothing at all to do with sex; never has and never will, thanks!!
What a horrible topic (abortion). The reporting is great, though.
Don't Murder Your Children.
How could an unwanted pregnancy cause a decision to kill a baby and after that solves her problems...
@Ndeye Delgado I had to look up your term "willful ignorance" and only found a clear definition in an "urban dictionary." This is what it says -- willful ignorance (noun) The practice or act of intentional and blatant avoidance, disregard or disagreement with facts, empirical evidence and well-founded arguments because they oppose or contradict your own existing personal beliefs. With that said, and regardless, your argument is fallacious. Sidney provides fact; your answer is rhetorical fallacy. It doesn't apply at all. In fact the sentence you use it in is not a sentence at all.
@Ndeye Delgado No one has a right to kill another person. A baby, whether unborn or born is a human being and should not be murdered. I think we all know that if we do not want a child we should do what we can to not get pregnant. But once pregnant, we have a responsibility to that baby.
@@Sarah-bu4bm 1/ What do you think that pregnancy is rape and incest?
2/ How do you define the viability of a fetus?
Religion is a poison that wreaks havoc on man's individualism. Religion is forcing people to do what they want. Religion has caused grief and pain to mankind for thousands of years. If this world had no religion then mankind would have peace. Do you know Thomas Jefferson? He wanted to separate church and state. do you know why ? I'm an atheist, I don't believe in morality but I do believe in human conscience.
“Religion is regarded by common peopl as true, by wise as fails, by rulers as useful” -
LUCIUS SENECA
Roman philosopher - 4BC - 65AD
@@Sarah-bu4bm How do you apply what you said to the 10, 9, and 8 year Olds who get pregnant? This age may be a death sentence to the underdeveloped child.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, stop the madness…!sad …