This is really a great review for Swift X, might even be the best review for this laptop! I really considering myself to get one and this review does explains the pros & cons in a detail manner yet the review is not boring at all
Great review mate! but slight correction actually the backlight can be turned on permanently. There are the follow steps 1. Fn + F2 (Head into BIOS) 2. Go to the 'MAIN" tab 3. There a setting that says "Keyboard backlight timeout" change from "Enabled" to "Disable" Hopefully it helps anyone who wish to keep the backlight on at all cost.
Superb in-depth review, covering all the aspects I can think of. This will definitely help folks to understand whether this laptop is for them or not. I think they should have added another smaller fan to dissipate the heat from the GPU. Also, having a RTX 3050 makes more sense here at that 35W power envelope, the performance of those two GPU will be more or less same and the cost could have been reduced a bit.
Like others have mentioned, I really love how comprehensive this review is. You clearly outline all the shortcomings and strengths in a way that is easy to understand.
@@Tech2Papa it's very interesting how the 3050ti in this machine performs like a 1650ti mobile because of lower power. It's definitely given me a lot more to consider when thinking about buying this for gaming.
Oh my lord 😳 I've just seen the starting and it already feels way better than any other TH-cam vid. It's legit on Kurzgesagt and Top Gear/Throttle House level. Damn buddy that was too damn impressive and definitely should earn u a like and sub right at the beginning. I was shared this vid by another fellow Swift X owner and will watch the vid in an hour. I hope u keep up the good work and achieve what u deserve 👍🏽❤️
Nice. I searching for Swift X full reviews but you the only full benchmark review I've see, good job mate. Now I'll buy this laptop when its available in the market, its kinda hard to find one tho.
Just bought this laptop for $899 and you my friend have made me feel more comfortable with my purchase. Can't wait to get it as I just need it for everyday tasks and only game I play is Apex Legends. Thank you sir best review I have seen yet and keep up the great work!!
Really liked the attention to detail in the review, the sum up at the end was bang on, you can get a better machine, but you cannot better the overall value of the swift x
this is the type of review i was searching for a long time for this particular laptop thanks a lot man this video really helped me a lot to get a fair idea about this machine
Great review. This helped pushed me to buy this laptop. I bought a different WiFi card (ax210 a&e) which is working great. Changed it before I even booted it up the first time. I have always had issues with mediatek, so IMO its not even worth fighting it to get it to work, as a Linux user at least. I'm using kernel 5.15.15 and I haven't noticed any issues. Everything just works. I'm coming from an Intel 10510u w/ an nvidia mx250 and this laptop is so much better. I really like how much power this thing has and it doesn't look like an obnoxious gaming laptop
This video encourage me to buy the laptop, you describe the laptop clearly In Indonesia, we have a tech reviewer like u, the channel name is Jagat Review. Hope ur channel grow big in the future 👍🏻
I appreciate your detailed review. I'm thinking of purchasing this laptop for a college student. I would love to see you make a review on best student laptop. Thank you for your content.
Thanks! I don’t think I’ve reviewed enough laptops to make a “best student laptops” video, but that’s definitely something I’ll put on the list for the future! Thanks for the suggestion :)
Wow, I love this laptop and the review. This does seem like it's my kinda laptop. A daily work laptop that is light and that I can use to play AAA title games whenever I have the time. Awesome review.
Best review I've seen, can't believe there aren't more views. Subbed! Quick question, even though external monitor uses the amd gpu, most of the power would still be coming from the 3050ti when playing games with an external monitor correct? I would still get a ton of frames with just a tiny setback.
Thanks! You summed it up perfectly. Instead of getting the full 3050 Ti performance, you’ll get _slightly_ less than that because it has to pass the data through the IGP.
Great review - as always! I would say the speakers' lag will probably be fixed with a future driver update as it seems quite bad. I've stopped using some BT speakers with much less lag so that would be a nono.
@@Tech2Papa can i ask you which driver u updated it with? I have the newest drivers from the acer website but when I watch a youtube video the sound seems to be desynced from the on screen images.
Well made video. This should get a lot more views! I'm confused why the prices you showed is lower than now. After almost a year, I would expect the price to drop but it has actually gotten up. Is it still worth it to buy at its full price is 2022? Feels a bit odd buying something older and more expensive than it used to be.
Probably not, if it’s more expensive. I’m sure there are better value alternatives as there have been several laptop hardware launches since this video was released.
@@Tech2Papa Arriving in 10 business days to Venezuela (i ordered it on Amazon and got it shipped to a cargo forwarding company who will send it to me here). BTW, wanted to request a comparison i haven't found on any site (aside from a side to side spec table which is as easy as gathering all the brochures and specs from AMD and making a table) I will really love to see a benchmark comparison between the Ryzen 7 5800H and the Ryzen 7 5800U, specially a table or graph depicting the power scaling vs performance of each CPU model. Jarrod Tech made a similar graph comparing the 5800H vs the 11800H from intel, in which he ran Cinebench multicore test for each processor limited to various TDP's. My intention is to limit the processor TDP to prolong battery life while unplugged (i know the Swift X has a Silent profile which limits the CPU to 15W while unplugged) but i will like to experiment with lower wattages to use for light browsing and even longer battery life at the expense of performance. The power scaling graph will help us see how the Ryzen 7 5800U performs at, i.e: 8-10-12-15-17-20W on a multicore test.
@Tech2Papa I've received mine and after extensive testing and use on battery and plugged in, i conclude that i definitely did a good purchase!. Im loving this little capable machine. its a monster!. Regarding the backlight keyboard timeout, the way to eliminate it is on the BIOS. There's an explicit option to disable it and make it behave always on or always off without the annoying timeout!. Also I've read some people complaining about the Function keys working on an inverse way as they do on other laptops (i.e : if you want to press F4 you have to press Fn + F4, since pressing F4 directly increases the brightness of the screen). To make them work properly (pressing F keys directly makes them work as F keys) there's also an Option on the BIOS to enable/disable this odd behavior.
I used to see this one with 5600u-5700u with a gtx 1650 for 850 USD, and it was of excellent value for my friends, until it disappeared from stock and when it returned, it is now going for 1000 USD.
Thanks Kelvin! That’s an interesting topic. For consumers, I’m not sure how big of an impact that will make since it’s uncommon for the average user to constantly read from/write to their drives, so potential improvements in latency and energy efficiency may not be noticeable. But for big data fields, these advantages could make a much bigger difference due to the sheer scale of the industry, so it’ll be interesting to see its development there.
@@liuowen13 absolute brilliant performance no regrets, I use it mainly for gaming and some editing, I play mostly battle royales and assassin's Creed games, installed warzone 2.0 and runs it smoothly mid/low settings, no Ethernet port tho, If you have the chance try and get a newer version of laptop with a better videocard (the 3050 TI is decent but max 3 years of usage for this specific laptop until it becomes obsolete) if you don't mind gaming in a 14 inch screen and are on a budget, go for it!
Great review! But I just wish there was some creator workloads, e.g. video editing, photoshop. Perhaps a follow up video with you discussing editing a full video but using this laptop rather than your desktop?
Thanks for the feedback! I won’t be able to do that unfortunately as I have given the laptop back to my friend already. But even if I did have the laptop, I’m not sure how useful that video would be as most of what I would say in such a video would be opinion, and I’d really be comparing laptop vs desktop rather than focusing on a specific model. But even if there were actual numerical comparisons, it would be against a relatively older system (8700K, 1080 Ti) which I doubt would be an appropriate reference point, performance-wise. Desktop vs laptop though sounds like an interesting topic, so maybe I’ll make a standalone video about this in the future. However, in succeeding laptop reviews, I can include creator workload benchmarks (e.g. PugetBench Photoshop, Blender Benchmark, V-Ray Benchmark) in addition to the already existing full-system tests (e.g. PCMark, 3DMark) to have a quantifiable measure of how the system being reviewed will perform in those situations in comparison to other similar systems. How does this sound?
Feedback: If the HDMI Port is connected to the dGPU it might be better for games, but it will also lead to a spinning fan as soon as you plug in a second mintor (even if u are not gaming). My working envirenment is very silent, and I ended up selling my XMG Fusion 15, because it was simply to loud in such a scenario. Can be a dealbreaker.
Superb review! Just wondering do you have any opinion in terms of this laptop single fan design regarding to its longetivity? Im an architect student and this laptop nearly a godsend to me, but after i saw the internals im kinda worried about longetivity considering i'll put this laptop in constant max performance when im rendering or general 3d modelling...
Thanks! You mean the longevity of the fan? That’s almost impossible to tell. It all depends on how well you take care of your machine. Since this is the *only* cooling solution it has, I’d recommend cleaning the internals regularly and making sure the fan is clear of dust to ensure it cools your system effectively.
@@Tech2Papa sorry may i rephrase my comment, its about the longetivity of the internals (cpu/gpu) considering they will only be cooled with this single fan, althought by your benchmarks thermals looks fine, im still worried about whether this single fan design may not be capable in the long run (2 years minimum). Any thoughts on that?
It shouldn't be an issue. High temperatures reduce the lifespan of electronic components due to a phenomenon called electromigration (Read more here: www.tekfiz.com/2021/03/electromigration-what-is-it-how-does-it.html). The higher the component's temperature, the greater the electromigration rate which will cause some connections within it to fail faster, producing errors, or worst-case scenario, the component dying completely. These components under normal temperatures are built to last many years (decades and decades), so even when factoring in the reduced lifetime from higher temps, they'll still last beyond the point where they'd be considered obsolete. If you're still worried about the temps though, consider getting a laptop cooling pad to further improve thermals. You should get a decent temperature reduction from that.
Hey man amazing review on this laptop, I think if you keep pumping content like this you will for sure become one of the big tech TH-camrs easily, life gets busy but trust your content is quality that can get you far on this platform 💯 stay well man!
really thinking of buying this laptop soon! it’s so powerful for a great price! i had this one against the blade 15 and the performance beats the price
The way you make the review are so great.. the info about ram channels, till the sound delay.. no other reviewers done till that details.. please make others video.. im waiting for it.. i suggest vivobook pro 14x Oled
Thanks! They are. That’s because for these tests, I average sustained scores and not immediate (where the TDP hasn’t fully expired from its short burst period), because sustained scores are much more representative of actual performance when you’re fully using the CPU. If you’re fully using all your CPU cores (i.e. during a rendering session), that’s probably going to last more than enough time to bring the CPU down to its sustained power limit.
100% agree with the comments below. This is by for the most comprehensive laptop review I've seen. You also speak very clearly and concise. Thank you. You mentioned that both the display outs are routed through the IGP. So when gaming with an external monitor, the dedicated GPU will still be utilized to do the majority of the processing, however, it still has to hand it off to the IGP to display it, instead of the GPU displaying the image directly. And this extra step introduced causes the lower performance? My second question - then is the laptop's display connected directly to the GPU which means it doesn't have that extra step?
For your first question: Yes! This is essentially how NVIDIA Optimus works. For your second question: It is not, which means you are sacrificing a bit of performance. But that also means if you’re just using Windows, your dGPU is not active at all, which will vastly improve battery life; a worthy tradeoff for this kind of laptop I think.
I’m confused at 8:28 when you start talking about gaming. So the display outs and the screen panel are connected to the IGP with no ability to connect to the dGPU directly. So is having the dGPU basically pointless and unusable then? Thanks for the great video!
Thanks! Nope, it doesn’t mean the dGPU is useless. It means that majority of the time when high GPU power is not needed, the IGP takes care of the rendering. When in a game, the dGPU takes care of the rendering, but because the IGP is connected to the screen, the dGPU instead passes the data through the IGP and into the screen, which does make you lose a bit of performance.
Omg, this is the most detailed laptop review I've ever seen. I am an electrical engineering student who programs a lot (using vscode, unity, vs ...),and I also do entry-level 3D modeling from time to time. Do you think if this laptop is suitable? I mean ... no lagging, I used to use a desktop with GTX 1050Ti & i5-7400, and I am very satisfied with it. This laptop should outperform my old desktop even in silent mode, right? I am choosing between Acer Swift x and Asus tuf dash f15. I am not sure if I need that much power that dash f15 provides. I don't mind the extra weight of dash f15 anyway. so maybe I should choose it ? Btw, I like to use external monitor and keyboard at home. Will it be a problem that the screen is not connect to dGPU directly?
Thank you! The Swift X will be suitable for all the tasks you mentioned. The Dash F15 is really only good if you prioritize having a more powerful GPU, since the CPUs available with it are only up to 4 cores. So I wouldn’t go for that if you also want to do productive work on your computer. Also, to answer your second question, it wouldn’t be a problem at all. You’ll only lose a bit of graphics performance since the dGPU has to pass its data through the IGP.
Great video man! Definitely getting this laptop for school. Very informative video with still being entertaining to watch. Any videos planned to come out soon?
Thanks a lot! Unfortunately I can’t say for sure yet. Work takes up most my time these days but hopefully I’ll have some time to make some videos in the upcoming holidays!
This is the best review i saw recently. You should be 100k viewers not 6k. Device is absolute bease but 5-6 hours of battery life quite a deal breaker for me. They should have used bigger battery package and aimed for the 8hours of your standart test.
Thanks! I should say though that my test isn’t “standard”. It is _standardized_ across all my laptop reviews (meaning I do the same thing for every laptop), but different people use different metrics for testing (e.g. TH-cam playback time), and my battery life test (multitasking on Excel, Word, and Chrome) is relatively heavier.
Thanks! Hopefully there will be (especially considering there isn’t much of a performance difference between the 3050 and 3050 Ti), but these are all the models that exist for now sadly.
Thank you! Hmm thing is, these are two completely different laptops intended for different audiences. The M1 MBA is a fantastic laptop for the average user too, but for different reasons. It has lots of processing power, but the _laptop_ itself has a solid selection of components (e.g. screen, trackpad) with unparalleled battery life. The MBA is a better _laptop_ than the Swift X, but the internals are a different story. Compared to the Swift X at the same price point ($1000), it has half the RAM (which may hinder multitasking) and storage, and its IGP won’t be nearly as capable as the 3050 Ti. So, the Swift X has better _internals_, but it’s a worse _laptop_. Assuming you’re sticking to the $1000 price point, if you’re just looking for a thin-and-light for simple tasks (e.g. office work), the MBA is probably better. But if you want to push your machine hard and have it excel in multiple areas (e.g. content creation, gaming), the Swift X will be better.
Amazing review! You went in-depth and tackled every aspect. Can this laptop be charged with the 65w Omnia PD charger from Aukey? Hoping for this so that I could possibly just carry that for all the devices I own :))
Thanks! I think it can, since the USB-C port supports 65W charging. But I don’t think this will be enough if you want to play games, since the standard power adapter is 90W. For office work though, 65W should be adequate.
Hey man, your reviews are amazing! Seriously keep going... Why have you stopped uploading. Listen man, I don't usually comment on videos, but I have been checking many reviews in the last couple of days and you have an amazing and clean approach to your videos. Start uploading more man, your good... Maybe you can do the Asus Vivobook Pro 14X next :P
It looks like an awesome laptop. It’s reasonably priced, crazy light while also topping out with a 5800U, but do check third party reviews before buying to make sure you know exactly what you’re getting.
This laptop honestly seems to have everything I could need as a programming student. Is there any other laptop you would reccomend over it or am I good to go?
If you’re just programming, perhaps you can consider something without a dGPU to save money. Perhaps the Swift 3, since it’s basically a Swift X without the 3050 Ti.
@@Tech2Papa Thanks! I would rather have a dGPU to assist with any more graphics intensive classes I might have. Im at a bit of a dilema now though. I just checked for the Swift x in my country and it comes with the 5600U and the plain 3050 for $1160. Do you still think it's worth it or do I try to import?
I’d advise you to check shipping prices from Amazon first. Currently it’s 1070USD there, so hopefully with shipping it’ll cost less than 1200USD which is still worth it in my opinion, just for the extra CPU power.
Wow, this video is better and more entertaining than most tech channels with millions of subs, this is amazing! Support from a fellow Hongkonger! Also, is there any stock of the RTX 3050 model in Hong Kong? All I can find are the 1650 ones...
And to reply to the edited part of your comment, there is a 3050 Ti model selling in university summer notebook promotions (e.g. from HKUST), which is exactly like the model I reviewed apart from having a 1TB NVMe SSD rather than 512GB. If you have any friends who go to those unis, you can ask them to buy it on your behalf.
May I ask, would the fan be blocked when you close the lip and connect to the external monitor? Cause I usually do that and afraid the heat would hinder the performance
Excellent question! The intake vent won’t be completely blocked since there’s still a bit of space underneath for airflow if the lid is completely closed. The problem is the exhaust vent, which gets completely covered by the screen. I would not advise doing what you mentioned with any laptop that has the exhaust vent under the screen (which most thin-and-lights, including the Swift X have, unfortunately). You’ll have to look for laptops that have exhausts at the back if you’d like to do this. One question though: will you be connected to an external monitor more often than you travel with your laptop? If you are, you can consider buying a gaming laptop instead which often have rear exhausts. Plus, you’re more likely to have a display out that connects to the dGPU which gives better performance.
@@Tech2Papa Thanks for the quick response! Btw, the quality and detailed review of this video impressed me so much that I became a new subscriber. Looking forward to your upcoming videos 👍🏼
I haven’t tried them on this, but given its specs, it should be. If you need more details, I’d recommend checking out benchmarks of the 5800U and 3050 Ti in professional applications (e.g. SPECviewperf)
I'm thinking on buying this laptop, would you recommend it for architecture students? To use autocad, revit, all those programs and maybe some games like sims. Thank you for the review!
Amazing review. You’ve helped me pull the trigger on Black Friday deals! Question: how can I access advanced BIOS settings. Pressing F2 does not show all settings. Thanks in advance!
Thanks! Unfortunately I gave the laptop back already, so I can’t check that for you. Try checking out Acer’s support page, there should be a manual to help you out.
Thanks! Unfortunately I don’t have access to a 1650 model right now (meaning I’m not buying one for myself, and I don’t have any friends I can borrow one from), so there are no plans to make a video showing their performance differences, as interesting as it would be.
You’ll need a colorimeter or a spectrophotometer (watch this for more info: th-cam.com/video/f2nVNxx1IHo/w-d-xo.html ). I used an X-Rite i1 Display Pro Plus with the DisplayCal program to calibrate this.
Great question! This is because of a technology called NVIDIA Optimus, where a laptop’s display is wired to the CPU’s IGP rather than the dGPU to save battery life. During normal usage, the IGP handles displaying graphical elements, but as soon as more power is needed (e.g. running a game), the dGPU kicks in to handle the rendering of those images but _sends_ them through the IGP to the screen. This is also why when in desktop, you can’t use NVIDIA shadowplay to record since the dGPU is not active, but in games, you can.
Externally, I think it looks fantastic. The internals are a massive letdown though, primarily due to the limitation of 4 cores on Intel’s 35W H-series chips. Unless you’re only doing light tasks (basic office work), you’re far better going for a laptop with higher-core count CPUs such as M1 Macs or Ryzen 7/45W Core i7 machines. If Xiaomi had instead used Intel’s 45W 8-core chips and restricted the power to 35W instead (which is allowed), then I’d be much happier.
Wow this is possibly the most comprehensive laptop review I've seen. I hope you get more subscribers
Thank you :)
Agree. My first time watching him. Amazing job.
@@Tech2Papa Awesome job man! This the the first video I watched from you and i already subscribed.
This is really a great review for Swift X, might even be the best review for this laptop! I really considering myself to get one and this review does explains the pros & cons in a detail manner yet the review is not boring at all
Aw thanks! Hope you enjoy the laptop :)
Great review mate! but slight correction actually the backlight can be turned on permanently. There are the follow steps
1. Fn + F2 (Head into BIOS)
2. Go to the 'MAIN" tab
3. There a setting that says "Keyboard backlight timeout" change from "Enabled" to "Disable"
Hopefully it helps anyone who wish to keep the backlight on at all cost.
Thanks! And thanks for the info :)
This channel is so underrated. One of the best reviews I have seen. Subscribed
Thank you!
Superb in-depth review, covering all the aspects I can think of. This will definitely help folks to understand whether this laptop is for them or not. I think they should have added another smaller fan to dissipate the heat from the GPU. Also, having a RTX 3050 makes more sense here at that 35W power envelope, the performance of those two GPU will be more or less same and the cost could have been reduced a bit.
Thanks!
Like others have mentioned, I really love how comprehensive this review is. You clearly outline all the shortcomings and strengths in a way that is easy to understand.
Thank you!
@@Tech2Papa it's very interesting how the 3050ti in this machine performs like a 1650ti mobile because of lower power. It's definitely given me a lot more to consider when thinking about buying this for gaming.
@@Tech2Papa also, I don't think any other reviewer covered this, so thanks a lot!
This helped me buy the Swift X as a college laptop. Slim and powerful, upgradable storage. 16gb is plenty.
Oh my lord 😳
I've just seen the starting and it already feels way better than any other TH-cam vid. It's legit on Kurzgesagt and Top Gear/Throttle House level. Damn buddy that was too damn impressive and definitely should earn u a like and sub right at the beginning.
I was shared this vid by another fellow Swift X owner and will watch the vid in an hour.
I hope u keep up the good work and achieve what u deserve 👍🏽❤️
Wow thanks for the compliments :)
This is an outstanding review, and very helpful.
Thanks!
This channel is extremely underrated. The content is fantastic!
Thank you :)
I'm still at 7:51 but I chose to comment, because I was extremely impressed by your presentation 👌🏻! Keep up the good work 👏🏻!
Thank you!
Nice. I searching for Swift X full reviews but you the only full benchmark review I've see, good job mate. Now I'll buy this laptop when its available in the market, its kinda hard to find one tho.
Thanks! Enjoy the laptop :)
Beginning of the video was like introducing the strongest character in an anime.
Just bought this laptop for $899 and you my friend have made me feel more comfortable with my purchase. Can't wait to get it as I just need it for everyday tasks and only game I play is Apex Legends. Thank you sir best review I have seen yet and keep up the great work!!
Thanks! Enjoy the laptop :)
Really liked the attention to detail in the review, the sum up at the end was bang on, you can get a better machine, but you cannot better the overall value of the swift x
Thank you!
I agree...this guy doesn't sugar coat anything. He is a "natural" at giving honest review just from this one video alone.
this is the type of review i was searching for a long time for this particular laptop thanks a lot man this video really helped me a lot to get a fair idea about this machine
Thanks!
Great review. This helped pushed me to buy this laptop. I bought a different WiFi card (ax210 a&e) which is working great. Changed it before I even booted it up the first time. I have always had issues with mediatek, so IMO its not even worth fighting it to get it to work, as a Linux user at least. I'm using kernel 5.15.15 and I haven't noticed any issues. Everything just works. I'm coming from an Intel 10510u w/ an nvidia mx250 and this laptop is so much better. I really like how much power this thing has and it doesn't look like an obnoxious gaming laptop
Thanks! Good to know the Wi-Fi card replacement worked well.
@@Tech2Papa yo should I get this
@@nolifezay4636 yes
Awit ano to? 4k views? This deserve 100k Views! This is the most complete review for this product. More power to you Papa 😂 keep up the good work!
Thank you!
This video encourage me to buy the laptop, you describe the laptop clearly
In Indonesia, we have a tech reviewer like u, the channel name is Jagat Review. Hope ur channel grow big in the future 👍🏻
Thanks! Enjoy the laptop :)
You are the most underrated human being I've ever seen!
Aw thanks! :)
Excellent review... very detailed and informative. This is easily the most comprehensive review on the Acer Swift X. Well done.
Thanks!
this is the best swift x review video i’ve ever seen. thumbs up!! already subscribed.
Thanks!
I thought this channel would be a crap Indian channel but wow, you impressed me.
Continue the great work!
Thanks!
I appreciate your detailed review. I'm thinking of purchasing this laptop for a college student. I would love to see you make a review on best student laptop. Thank you for your content.
Thanks!
I don’t think I’ve reviewed enough laptops to make a “best student laptops” video, but that’s definitely something I’ll put on the list for the future! Thanks for the suggestion :)
Wow, I love this laptop and the review.
This does seem like it's my kinda laptop. A daily work laptop that is light and that I can use to play AAA title games whenever I have the time. Awesome review.
Thanks!
Best review I've seen, can't believe there aren't more views. Subbed!
Quick question, even though external monitor uses the amd gpu, most of the power would still be coming from the 3050ti when playing games with an external monitor correct? I would still get a ton of frames with just a tiny setback.
Thanks!
You summed it up perfectly. Instead of getting the full 3050 Ti performance, you’ll get _slightly_ less than that because it has to pass the data through the IGP.
@@Tech2Papa Awesome, thank you for the fast response!
Great review - as always!
I would say the speakers' lag will probably be fixed with a future driver update as it seems quite bad. I've stopped using some BT speakers with much less lag so that would be a nono.
Thanks!
You’re right actually. I updated the audio drivers a few days after filming and the lag was gone, even with the audio enhancements turned on.
@@Tech2Papa can i ask you which driver u updated it with? I have the newest drivers from the acer website but when I watch a youtube video the sound seems to be desynced from the on screen images.
Well made video. This should get a lot more views! I'm confused why the prices you showed is lower than now. After almost a year, I would expect the price to drop but it has actually gotten up. Is it still worth it to buy at its full price is 2022? Feels a bit odd buying something older and more expensive than it used to be.
Probably not, if it’s more expensive. I’m sure there are better value alternatives as there have been several laptop hardware launches since this video was released.
First time I see you doing reviews and I have to commend you. It's very detailed and the presentation is great! Thanks
Thank you!
i've based my purchase decision on two reviews for this machine: the one from Just Josh and this one!. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Enjoy the laptop :)
@@Tech2Papa Arriving in 10 business days to Venezuela (i ordered it on Amazon and got it shipped to a cargo forwarding company who will send it to me here). BTW, wanted to request a comparison i haven't found on any site (aside from a side to side spec table which is as easy as gathering all the brochures and specs from AMD and making a table) I will really love to see a benchmark comparison between the Ryzen 7 5800H and the Ryzen 7 5800U, specially a table or graph depicting the power scaling vs performance of each CPU model. Jarrod Tech made a similar graph comparing the 5800H vs the 11800H from intel, in which he ran Cinebench multicore test for each processor limited to various TDP's. My intention is to limit the processor TDP to prolong battery life while unplugged (i know the Swift X has a Silent profile which limits the CPU to 15W while unplugged) but i will like to experiment with lower wattages to use for light browsing and even longer battery life at the expense of performance. The power scaling graph will help us see how the Ryzen 7 5800U performs at, i.e: 8-10-12-15-17-20W on a multicore test.
@Tech2Papa I've received mine and after extensive testing and use on battery and plugged in, i conclude that i definitely did a good purchase!. Im loving this little capable machine. its a monster!. Regarding the backlight keyboard timeout, the way to eliminate it is on the BIOS. There's an explicit option to disable it and make it behave always on or always off without the annoying timeout!. Also I've read some people complaining about the Function keys working on an inverse way as they do on other laptops (i.e : if you want to press F4 you have to press Fn + F4, since pressing F4 directly increases the brightness of the screen). To make them work properly (pressing F keys directly makes them work as F keys) there's also an Option on the BIOS to enable/disable this odd behavior.
I used to see this one with 5600u-5700u with a gtx 1650 for 850 USD, and it was of excellent value for my friends, until it disappeared from stock and when it returned, it is now going for 1000 USD.
now theres one with rtx 3050 with the same processor for 700 pounds on amazon (at the moment), might get it
@@sage_zarfi got one with rtx 3050ti for $630!
Trust me, this channels gonna blow up sometime. Just keep up the good work!
Thank you :)
and i also suggest keep on reviewing not-so-expensive laptops since many of us can relate to. God bless you
Beautiful review Marcus! Always wanted to learn more about CSD (Computation Storage Drive) as the new gen storage solution. What do you think?
Thanks Kelvin!
That’s an interesting topic. For consumers, I’m not sure how big of an impact that will make since it’s uncommon for the average user to constantly read from/write to their drives, so potential improvements in latency and energy efficiency may not be noticeable.
But for big data fields, these advantages could make a much bigger difference due to the sheer scale of the industry, so it’ll be interesting to see its development there.
Fantastic review, I especially appreciate the tips about the sound and battery potential!
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This video was the reason I bought this laptop, thank you for your hard work 👐👌
How is the laptop doing? I’m tempted to buy it.
@@liuowen13 absolute brilliant performance no regrets, I use it mainly for gaming and some editing, I play mostly battle royales and assassin's Creed games, installed warzone 2.0 and runs it smoothly mid/low settings, no Ethernet port tho, If you have the chance try and get a newer version of laptop with a better videocard (the 3050 TI is decent but max 3 years of usage for this specific laptop until it becomes obsolete) if you don't mind gaming in a 14 inch screen and are on a budget, go for it!
@@humanocontemporaneo96 thank you friend for your first hand feedback!
Amazing editing bro
Thank you :)
Great review! But I just wish there was some creator workloads, e.g. video editing, photoshop. Perhaps a follow up video with you discussing editing a full video but using this laptop rather than your desktop?
Thanks for the feedback!
I won’t be able to do that unfortunately as I have given the laptop back to my friend already. But even if I did have the laptop, I’m not sure how useful that video would be as most of what I would say in such a video would be opinion, and I’d really be comparing laptop vs desktop rather than focusing on a specific model. But even if there were actual numerical comparisons, it would be against a relatively older system (8700K, 1080 Ti) which I doubt would be an appropriate reference point, performance-wise. Desktop vs laptop though sounds like an interesting topic, so maybe I’ll make a standalone video about this in the future.
However, in succeeding laptop reviews, I can include creator workload benchmarks (e.g. PugetBench Photoshop, Blender Benchmark, V-Ray Benchmark) in addition to the already existing full-system tests (e.g. PCMark, 3DMark) to have a quantifiable measure of how the system being reviewed will perform in those situations in comparison to other similar systems. How does this sound?
@@Tech2Papa Yeah that would be great
I know its old by now. But this has been an awesome review my friend :)
Feedback: If the HDMI Port is connected to the dGPU it might be better for games, but it will also lead to a spinning fan as soon as you plug in a second mintor (even if u are not gaming). My working envirenment is very silent, and I ended up selling my XMG Fusion 15, because it was simply to loud in such a scenario. Can be a dealbreaker.
Thanks for sharing! Didn’t realize that. The design makes more sense now.
Superb review! Just wondering do you have any opinion in terms of this laptop single fan design regarding to its longetivity? Im an architect student and this laptop nearly a godsend to me, but after i saw the internals im kinda worried about longetivity considering i'll put this laptop in constant max performance when im rendering or general 3d modelling...
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You mean the longevity of the fan? That’s almost impossible to tell. It all depends on how well you take care of your machine. Since this is the *only* cooling solution it has, I’d recommend cleaning the internals regularly and making sure the fan is clear of dust to ensure it cools your system effectively.
@@Tech2Papa sorry may i rephrase my comment, its about the longetivity of the internals (cpu/gpu) considering they will only be cooled with this single fan, althought by your benchmarks thermals looks fine, im still worried about whether this single fan design may not be capable in the long run (2 years minimum). Any thoughts on that?
It shouldn't be an issue.
High temperatures reduce the lifespan of electronic components due to a phenomenon called electromigration (Read more here: www.tekfiz.com/2021/03/electromigration-what-is-it-how-does-it.html). The higher the component's temperature, the greater the electromigration rate which will cause some connections within it to fail faster, producing errors, or worst-case scenario, the component dying completely.
These components under normal temperatures are built to last many years (decades and decades), so even when factoring in the reduced lifetime from higher temps, they'll still last beyond the point where they'd be considered obsolete.
If you're still worried about the temps though, consider getting a laptop cooling pad to further improve thermals. You should get a decent temperature reduction from that.
Hey man amazing review on this laptop, I think if you keep pumping content like this you will for sure become one of the big tech TH-camrs easily, life gets busy but trust your content is quality that can get you far on this platform 💯 stay well man!
Aw thanks! Take care too :)
for the keyboard backlighting there is a settings in bios for leaving it on
Yep, that’s what I hear. Thanks!
really thinking of buying this laptop soon! it’s so powerful for a great price! i had this one against the blade 15 and the performance beats the price
Keep it up bro. I watched your review of lg wl500 and now I have that ultrawide. Nice review btw
Thanks! Hope you’re enjoying the monitor :)
Unbelievably comprehensive reviews with clear presentation. Great job
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@@Tech2Papa fat man answer my question about my clicky deck
Loved the video man, can’t wait to see what else you got for us
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The way you make the review are so great.. the info about ram channels, till the sound delay.. no other reviewers done till that details.. please make others video.. im waiting for it.. i suggest vivobook pro 14x Oled
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Nice review. One thing I noticed is your multicore scores (r20, geekbench) are 10-15% lower than same tests done by other reviewers on TH-cam.
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They are. That’s because for these tests, I average sustained scores and not immediate (where the TDP hasn’t fully expired from its short burst period), because sustained scores are much more representative of actual performance when you’re fully using the CPU. If you’re fully using all your CPU cores (i.e. during a rendering session), that’s probably going to last more than enough time to bring the CPU down to its sustained power limit.
Great review, with details and test that I didn't see on other channels. Thank you for this, I just ordered it and will get it next Monday.
Thanks! Enjoy the laptop :)
One of the best reviews out there. Covered every aspect. You earned a sub :)
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The thumbnail is hillarious ❤️😂
Amazing and Detailed review i have subbed man 👍🔥🔥
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You can change the keyboard lights in the bios!
That’s what I hear, thanks!
Your review is amazing and is making me consider this laptop. Im confused between this, Xenia 14 and the ideapad 5 pro 14/16”.
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I've been watching so many reviews since I'm looking to buy laptops....and this is hands down the best review I've watched ~ 😍
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100% agree with the comments below. This is by for the most comprehensive laptop review I've seen. You also speak very clearly and concise. Thank you.
You mentioned that both the display outs are routed through the IGP. So when gaming with an external monitor, the dedicated GPU will still be utilized to do the majority of the processing, however, it still has to hand it off to the IGP to display it, instead of the GPU displaying the image directly. And this extra step introduced causes the lower performance?
My second question - then is the laptop's display connected directly to the GPU which means it doesn't have that extra step?
For your first question: Yes! This is essentially how NVIDIA Optimus works.
For your second question: It is not, which means you are sacrificing a bit of performance. But that also means if you’re just using Windows, your dGPU is not active at all, which will vastly improve battery life; a worthy tradeoff for this kind of laptop I think.
man i love your review on this! hope you can do another review on the 2022 model
Thanks! Hopefully I can get access to that sometime.
I’m confused at 8:28 when you start talking about gaming. So the display outs and the screen panel are connected to the IGP with no ability to connect to the dGPU directly. So is having the dGPU basically pointless and unusable then? Thanks for the great video!
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Nope, it doesn’t mean the dGPU is useless. It means that majority of the time when high GPU power is not needed, the IGP takes care of the rendering. When in a game, the dGPU takes care of the rendering, but because the IGP is connected to the screen, the dGPU instead passes the data through the IGP and into the screen, which does make you lose a bit of performance.
Omg, this is the most detailed laptop review I've ever seen.
I am an electrical engineering student who programs a lot (using vscode, unity, vs ...),and I also do entry-level 3D modeling from time to time. Do you think if this laptop is suitable? I mean ... no lagging,
I used to use a desktop with GTX 1050Ti & i5-7400, and I am very satisfied with it. This laptop should outperform my old desktop even in silent mode, right?
I am choosing between Acer Swift x and Asus tuf dash f15.
I am not sure if I need that much power that dash f15 provides. I don't mind the extra weight of dash f15 anyway. so maybe I should choose it ?
Btw, I like to use external monitor and keyboard at home. Will it be a problem that the screen is not connect to dGPU directly?
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The Swift X will be suitable for all the tasks you mentioned. The Dash F15 is really only good if you prioritize having a more powerful GPU, since the CPUs available with it are only up to 4 cores. So I wouldn’t go for that if you also want to do productive work on your computer.
Also, to answer your second question, it wouldn’t be a problem at all. You’ll only lose a bit of graphics performance since the dGPU has to pass its data through the IGP.
Great video, the keyboard backlight timeout can be disabled in the BIOS, if someone hasn’t mentioned it yet. Still, great video.
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keep grinding, the hard work will get noticed eventually
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Great video man! Definitely getting this laptop for school. Very informative video with still being entertaining to watch. Any videos planned to come out soon?
Thanks a lot!
Unfortunately I can’t say for sure yet. Work takes up most my time these days but hopefully I’ll have some time to make some videos in the upcoming holidays!
@@Tech2Papa what are u busy doing lmaooooo u got no job
Wow, great review. Very detailed and very relevant. Kudos!! Well done!!
This is the best review i saw recently. You should be 100k viewers not 6k.
Device is absolute bease but 5-6 hours of battery life quite a deal breaker for me.
They should have used bigger battery package and aimed for the 8hours of your standart test.
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I should say though that my test isn’t “standard”. It is _standardized_ across all my laptop reviews (meaning I do the same thing for every laptop), but different people use different metrics for testing (e.g. TH-cam playback time), and my battery life test (multitasking on Excel, Word, and Chrome) is relatively heavier.
Great review . i wonder if there is ryzen 5 with rtx 3050 is available for little lower.
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Hopefully there will be (especially considering there isn’t much of a performance difference between the 3050 and 3050 Ti), but these are all the models that exist for now sadly.
Impressive review! Im considering buying this or MBA. Do you have any suggestions? Really need one. Thank u.
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Hmm thing is, these are two completely different laptops intended for different audiences. The M1 MBA is a fantastic laptop for the average user too, but for different reasons. It has lots of processing power, but the _laptop_ itself has a solid selection of components (e.g. screen, trackpad) with unparalleled battery life. The MBA is a better _laptop_ than the Swift X, but the internals are a different story.
Compared to the Swift X at the same price point ($1000), it has half the RAM (which may hinder multitasking) and storage, and its IGP won’t be nearly as capable as the 3050 Ti. So, the Swift X has better _internals_, but it’s a worse _laptop_.
Assuming you’re sticking to the $1000 price point, if you’re just looking for a thin-and-light for simple tasks (e.g. office work), the MBA is probably better. But if you want to push your machine hard and have it excel in multiple areas (e.g. content creation, gaming), the Swift X will be better.
@@Tech2Papa Thank you so much for this. I will surely consider your suggestion! Will order this month right away. I think Swift X is for me.
Amazing review! You went in-depth and tackled every aspect.
Can this laptop be charged with the 65w Omnia PD charger from Aukey? Hoping for this so that I could possibly just carry that for all the devices I own :))
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I think it can, since the USB-C port supports 65W charging. But I don’t think this will be enough if you want to play games, since the standard power adapter is 90W. For office work though, 65W should be adequate.
@@Tech2Papa I will take note on that. Thank you for your response! 😁
got mine yesterday because of your review.. thank you. but or some reason the webcam isnt working, was this an issue for you?
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No issues whatsoever on my end. Perhaps it’s a driver issue? Try to check Acer’s website to see if they have any updates.
Dude mine has a bad flex on the bottoms right where it clicks! Is this common? How can I fix it
You are killing it with this review,
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Hey man, your reviews are amazing! Seriously keep going... Why have you stopped uploading. Listen man, I don't usually comment on videos, but I have been checking many reviews in the last couple of days and you have an amazing and clean approach to your videos. Start uploading more man, your good... Maybe you can do the Asus Vivobook Pro 14X next :P
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My current job keeps me quite busy, so sadly that doesn’t leave me much spare time to work on the channel.
Great review and love your presentation style
Thank you!
What are your thoughts on the HP Pavilion Aero 13?
It looks like an awesome laptop. It’s reasonably priced, crazy light while also topping out with a 5800U, but do check third party reviews before buying to make sure you know exactly what you’re getting.
@@Tech2Papa Thank you!
Now that's how you do a proper in-depth review!
Thank you!
Sure thing! Keep it up! U deserve more subs!
Thanks for the review and this made me pull the trigger and hope the wifi card issue can be solved in the way suggested. ❤️
Would you recommend the newer version man? Curious to see if it’s worth spending more
This laptop honestly seems to have everything I could need as a programming student. Is there any other laptop you would reccomend over it or am I good to go?
If you’re just programming, perhaps you can consider something without a dGPU to save money. Perhaps the Swift 3, since it’s basically a Swift X without the 3050 Ti.
@@Tech2Papa Thanks! I would rather have a dGPU to assist with any more graphics intensive classes I might have. Im at a bit of a dilema now though. I just checked for the Swift x in my country and it comes with the 5600U and the plain 3050 for $1160. Do you still think it's worth it or do I try to import?
I’d advise you to check shipping prices from Amazon first. Currently it’s 1070USD there, so hopefully with shipping it’ll cost less than 1200USD which is still worth it in my opinion, just for the extra CPU power.
@@Tech2Papa Thank you!
Wow, this video is better and more entertaining than most tech channels with millions of subs, this is amazing! Support from a fellow Hongkonger!
Also, is there any stock of the RTX 3050 model in Hong Kong? All I can find are the 1650 ones...
Aww thanks! And hello fellow Hongkonger :)
And to reply to the edited part of your comment, there is a 3050 Ti model selling in university summer notebook promotions (e.g. from HKUST), which is exactly like the model I reviewed apart from having a 1TB NVMe SSD rather than 512GB. If you have any friends who go to those unis, you can ask them to buy it on your behalf.
@@Tech2Papa I didn’t know that, thanks!!
May I ask, would the fan be blocked when you close the lip and connect to the external monitor? Cause I usually do that and afraid the heat would hinder the performance
Excellent question! The intake vent won’t be completely blocked since there’s still a bit of space underneath for airflow if the lid is completely closed. The problem is the exhaust vent, which gets completely covered by the screen. I would not advise doing what you mentioned with any laptop that has the exhaust vent under the screen (which most thin-and-lights, including the Swift X have, unfortunately). You’ll have to look for laptops that have exhausts at the back if you’d like to do this.
One question though: will you be connected to an external monitor more often than you travel with your laptop? If you are, you can consider buying a gaming laptop instead which often have rear exhausts. Plus, you’re more likely to have a display out that connects to the dGPU which gives better performance.
@@Tech2Papa Thank you!!!
Hp omen 15 ryzen 5 rtx3060 review needed 😅😅
Wish I could, but unfortunately none of my friends have one that I can borrow. If I ever encounter one, I’ll be sure to review it :)
In the audio latency section when gaming, could I just use wireless earbuds/headphones to cancel it?
That should work fine
@@Tech2Papa Thanks for the quick response! Btw, the quality and detailed review of this video impressed me so much that I became a new subscriber. Looking forward to your upcoming videos 👍🏼
wow man, i love the amount of work that went into this video. it was very detailed!
Thanks!
How did you run the network troubleshooting? I got the laptop, and even if I have not had network issues, I want to test it with the troubleshooting
Is it good for architectural apps such as lumion, revit, autocad etc.?
I haven’t tried them on this, but given its specs, it should be. If you need more details, I’d recommend checking out benchmarks of the 5800U and 3050 Ti in professional applications (e.g. SPECviewperf)
Great review! Is there any way for an external monitor to be connected to its dedicated gpu instead of the igpu?
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Sadly no. Unless you know how to rewire the ports to connect to the dGPU instead of the iGPU, there’s nothing that can be done about this.
can I replace the battery?
One note: there is a way in bios to change the switching off backlight of the keyboard. But besides that great review
Oooo didn’t know that. Thanks!
This was amazingly detailed. You just earned a sub
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Can the acer swift x run Linux mint?
Unfortunately I didn’t test Linux on this, so I can’t say for sure.
@@Tech2Papa ah man no worries. Also, since the screen is only 60hz, is it possible to connect it to a monitor to get 100+ of hz?
I'm thinking on buying this laptop, would you recommend it for architecture students? To use autocad, revit, all those programs and maybe some games like sims. Thank you for the review!
Amazing review. You’ve helped me pull the trigger on Black Friday deals!
Question: how can I access advanced BIOS settings. Pressing F2 does not show all settings. Thanks in advance!
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Unfortunately I gave the laptop back already, so I can’t check that for you. Try checking out Acer’s support page, there should be a manual to help you out.
Very good reviews and voice .
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Great video and very helpful! Will you be doing a comparison between this model (3050 Ti) and the GTX 1650 model to see performance differences?
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Unfortunately I don’t have access to a 1650 model right now (meaning I’m not buying one for myself, and I don’t have any friends I can borrow one from), so there are no plans to make a video showing their performance differences, as interesting as it would be.
@@Tech2Papa Alright I understand. Keep up the great videos!
Will it overheat if I continue to play games using 3050 active? While I plug it with AC。
This video deserves at least 100k views
Why thank you :)
Gran Turismo soundtrack! You have taste!
Which tools do you use to calibrate the display?
You’ll need a colorimeter or a spectrophotometer (watch this for more info: th-cam.com/video/f2nVNxx1IHo/w-d-xo.html ). I used an X-Rite i1 Display Pro Plus with the DisplayCal program to calibrate this.
Great review. Very informative and well put together.
Thank you!
So if there's no way to directly connect to the dGPU, when is it turning on exactly?
Great question! This is because of a technology called NVIDIA Optimus, where a laptop’s display is wired to the CPU’s IGP rather than the dGPU to save battery life. During normal usage, the IGP handles displaying graphical elements, but as soon as more power is needed (e.g. running a game), the dGPU kicks in to handle the rendering of those images but _sends_ them through the IGP to the screen.
This is also why when in desktop, you can’t use NVIDIA shadowplay to record since the dGPU is not active, but in games, you can.
What do you think about the brand new Mi notebook pro?
Externally, I think it looks fantastic. The internals are a massive letdown though, primarily due to the limitation of 4 cores on Intel’s 35W H-series chips. Unless you’re only doing light tasks (basic office work), you’re far better going for a laptop with higher-core count CPUs such as M1 Macs or Ryzen 7/45W Core i7 machines. If Xiaomi had instead used Intel’s 45W 8-core chips and restricted the power to 35W instead (which is allowed), then I’d be much happier.
Such an awesome review man! Loved the video. Subscribed!
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I got the i5 3050 version on new egg for only 550