@@electricvanman I'm sure the van racking/fitting out companies will find a way around it. My current ex Brit Gas van, have the pipe rack going under the drivers seat :)
Having just got a Vivaro, I discovered there is a disadvantage to high-up rear lights: a rear door-mounted bike rack obscures the lights. If they were a bit lower, like the transporter, or most older vans then there is no problem. A bike rack you don't have to strap a trailer-board on is a very nice thing.
How long can the manufacturers sustain production of EV vans? Less than 10000 sold so far this year, and sales going down, in comparison to nearly 190000 diesel .
65kWh battery size for a van that size does not seem all that large to me. As soon as you have a serious load and/or start running tools off it, that range is going to fall a lot I would expect. To be fair this is not just a problem with this van though, a lot of the electric vans available seem to be aimed at shorter range last mile delivery scenarios. I'm guessing it's biggest competitor would be the eDeliver 7 with a 88kWh battery which for many might be more attractive.
Well if you are getting the 160/ 180ish I would expect from this it covers the majority of peoples daily journeys for work. That said I was hoping it would break the 200 barrier based on pre launch info. Hopefully it will improve in line with the battery upgrade for the big brother 👍
It might be the best selling diesel van but not many are buying the EV versions, dealers getting stuck with them, heavily discounting them already, already seeing residual values that are shocking, quite a few leasing companies selling ex lease EV versions for same price as a diesel but the EV was thousands more when new. 203 miles in real terms winter driving with a load will be closer to 100-120 and who will run a van down to 10-20 miles left of driving ? This is not a Ford issue but issue on all EV vans, great for city delivery's with 100-150 miles a day but nothing more. Plus Ford & VW (will be the same company soon) have the threat of cheap Chinese EV vans coming so when it comes down to price all European EV's will struggle. The ports are already clogging up with unsold EV cars..... Can't see how all dealers/manufacturers will hit the EV/ICE targets especially next year. Scary times ahead. Looking forward to the PHEV Custom, decent engine with some EV only range.
The ones you are speaking about are NOT the Custom version as it is not with Customers yet. I do not expect this van to be like the big brother with a wildly different actual vs prediction (via WLTP) I would expect around 2.5 mpkwh which should give it 175 in the real world with around 50% payload. We will certainly look to give it a real world test once it on the road
@@DavidElliott-q7f will be good to get the feedback! Also optimised for a quick boost of 25 miles in 5 mins when DC (rapid) charging with the high power 120+ chargers
With NO OPTION to have different battery packs, then I can confirm IT IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!! 100miles or less range on the long wheelbase high roof model... is actually PATHETIC. It is a lovely vehicle to drive. I had one on hire for a month and the RANGE is by far its worst feature.
@electricvanman It is in the UK as a Demo... If you are a listed as a tester for Ford.... You keep it for a month and then have to write a detailed report back to Ford. As I said it's only weakness is the total lack of choice when it comes to the battery pack.
Great review but the music is very annoying cheers
Appreciate the feedback both sides of the coin! Noted re the music 👍
Yes, please no more music.
My e expert has 75kwh battery why would i swop it for something more expensive with a smaller 65kwh battery?
Because french made cars always have lots of electric issues after some years, don’t think i’d want an electric car from them.
Great review, good to see its got a good starting range!
Plumbers will need to modify the bulkhead, as lengths of pipe are 3m, not 290cm!
I think they have the through load bulkhead so using that option should make it work just fine!
@@electricvanman I'm sure the van racking/fitting out companies will find a way around it.
My current ex Brit Gas van, have the pipe rack going under the drivers seat :)
@@spikebmth I think the option from Ford goes under the passenger seat 👍
The music is unnecessary and to load, it’s really annoying and it drowns you out. So please leave it out in future videos ❤
Thanks so much for covering this; great to see more eVans being released. Did I miss the price?
As you ask so nicely yes you did miss the price. I did not include it. It starts around 44 and goes up to 60+ for the bonkers MS-RT
Having just got a Vivaro, I discovered there is a disadvantage to high-up rear lights: a rear door-mounted bike rack obscures the lights. If they were a bit lower, like the transporter, or most older vans then there is no problem. A bike rack you don't have to strap a trailer-board on is a very nice thing.
The reason is to minimise cost in rear end shunts and bumps which are the most common. Must be a compromise somewhere though
Maybe clad it with 1KW PV?
I have never heard of an airbag in the roof. That must release a hell of a lit of space!
It certainly is an unusual move to create an extra cubby whole. I guess it must make sense!
I love the ford transit 😊😊
How long can the manufacturers sustain production of EV vans? Less than 10000 sold so far this year, and sales going down, in comparison to nearly 190000 diesel .
65kWh battery size for a van that size does not seem all that large to me. As soon as you have a serious load and/or start running tools off it, that range is going to fall a lot I would expect. To be fair this is not just a problem with this van though, a lot of the electric vans available seem to be aimed at shorter range last mile delivery scenarios. I'm guessing it's biggest competitor would be the eDeliver 7 with a 88kWh battery which for many might be more attractive.
Must be the best Van out there.
Curious to a comparison test.
No wonder you delayed mentioning battery size for as long as possible. 66kWh isn't great unles your working inner city.
Well if you are getting the 160/ 180ish I would expect from this it covers the majority of peoples daily journeys for work. That said I was hoping it would break the 200 barrier based on pre launch info. Hopefully it will improve in line with the battery upgrade for the big brother 👍
@@electricvanman yeah it's being used for motorway work.
@@descb600f ahh could be tricky but there are ways to make it work and remain cost effective…
It might be the best selling diesel van but not many are buying the EV versions, dealers getting stuck with them, heavily discounting them already, already seeing residual values that are shocking, quite a few leasing companies selling ex lease EV versions for same price as a diesel but the EV was thousands more when new.
203 miles in real terms winter driving with a load will be closer to 100-120 and who will run a van down to 10-20 miles left of driving ? This is not a Ford issue but issue on all EV vans, great for city delivery's with 100-150 miles a day but nothing more.
Plus Ford & VW (will be the same company soon) have the threat of cheap Chinese EV vans coming so when it comes down to price all European EV's will struggle. The ports are already clogging up with unsold EV cars.....
Can't see how all dealers/manufacturers will hit the EV/ICE targets especially next year. Scary times ahead.
Looking forward to the PHEV Custom, decent engine with some EV only range.
The ones you are speaking about are NOT the Custom version as it is not with Customers yet. I do not expect this van to be like the big brother with a wildly different actual vs prediction (via WLTP) I would expect around 2.5 mpkwh which should give it 175 in the real world with around 50% payload. We will certainly look to give it a real world test once it on the road
@@electricvanman I will let you know when we get ours (Full EV custom) soon. If it does do 175m with 50% payload that would be great.
@@DavidElliott-q7f will be good to get the feedback! Also optimised for a quick boost of 25 miles in 5 mins when DC (rapid) charging with the high power 120+ chargers
It’s “Dunton” not “Dunston”
You are quite correct 👍 in the moment it is easy to get things wrong!
Price? Range? Warranty? 2 year servicing? There are no booked services on a Tesla so why do Ford? PS get rid of the music!
With NO OPTION to have different battery packs, then I can confirm IT IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!! 100miles or less range on the long wheelbase high roof model... is actually PATHETIC. It is a lovely vehicle to drive. I had one on hire for a month and the RANGE is by far its worst feature.
In which country? It is not on the road yet in the UK
@electricvanman It is in the UK as a Demo... If you are a listed as a tester for Ford.... You keep it for a month and then have to write a detailed report back to Ford. As I said it's only weakness is the total lack of choice when it comes to the battery pack.
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Bombs on wheels never buy an electric car
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@@foloeel why don't you
@@electricvanman useless bombs on wheels
@@upyoursmate Hopefully that's the daftest most ill informed thing you'll say today.