Rappelling Wizards - Intro to Canyoning

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  • @HowNOT2
    @HowNOT2  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

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  • @marcusbadger3345
    @marcusbadger3345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This was really interesting, as a swiftwater rescue tech the norm is to try to keep clean lines (our favourite knot is a no-knot) and avoid anything that can snag that isn't releasable (including harnesses with quick-releases), so it's super interesting to see how canyoning takes such a different approach.

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Videos like this showing the search and rescue perspective would be really interesting.

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You bring up a great point. This is not the complete message and ideals of Canyoning. We have very similar ideas and tactics. Some better than others. Brent has a swift water background and is very cognizant of those issues.

  • @WaterfallWhispering
    @WaterfallWhispering 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I solo canyon almost exclusively, it’s beautiful out in the PNW! Know your limits, do a lot of research, ask people you know that have been out there recently and always be ready to adapt! Wet canyons FTW!!!! 🤙 So glad I got talked into trying out this incredible hobby!

  • @ADDekoning100
    @ADDekoning100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SO happy to see you guys doing more canyoneering videos! Actually own two Glacier Black ropes, including the Newt. They’re so silky smooth, I love em. Great seeing you guys working together.

  • @ajaxlopez
    @ajaxlopez 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    On October 15 my son and I went through Tanaya Canyon in Yosemite. It’s rated a 3B with a time rating of four. We had absolutely zero Canyon experience. Glad you’re putting these videos out these will save someone’s life without a doubt

    • @vincentcalauttijr.7393
      @vincentcalauttijr.7393 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How’d you guys do with that rating and no experience looking at similar
      What experience with ropes did you have?

    • @ajaxlopez
      @ajaxlopez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vincentcalauttijr.7393we experienced more water than we expected. We had record amounts of snow melt that turned into a class c situation.
      We should have planned for more time. Time in the guide book said 7-9 hours. All in all it took us 36 hours. We got stuck in the canyon overnight because it got too dark to find the repelling anchors. You’re looking for a needle and a haystack with very limited instruction.
      Fortunately, we found a cave to sleep in. As far as rope work, it was horrible.we Used classic rock climbing technique, stopper knots, threw the entire rope down into a churning pool of water. My kid was on a grigri I used atc. We have completely changed everything though.

  • @chrismartin806
    @chrismartin806 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 weeks ago after visiting utah, I said “I would love to get into canyoneering, I think that I could figure it out because it’s just a lot of rappelling but Im sure it’s way more complex than that”. Well thanks for proving that it’s way more complicated. Great video just to understand where I might start.

  • @75burbguy
    @75burbguy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for doing canyoneering gear videos, most are not in English as this is a relatively new sport for the US! Especially like the rope comparison, almost no info on canyon ropes on TH-cam.

  • @dinodouche
    @dinodouche 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro love the channel! That being said y'all need to collab with the SLOW MO GUYS so we can see exactly how a bunch of different things break and/or get a better slow mo cam... it's deff time. Lol it would be perfect for your channel

  • @8bba8
    @8bba8 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Regarding the double-ended rope bag... For rock climbing, I really like the Edelrid Tillit Bag, which is a similar idea.

    • @daveatutube
      @daveatutube 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tillit is useful for multipitch rope management, but it's a bit flimsy for canyoning. It's also not as easy to flake the rope into quickly compared to a more rigid style of bag. That said, if you've got one and you want to try canyoning it's going to be better than nothing.

  • @richardmondor1360
    @richardmondor1360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool vid! Having walked through some of the most amazing canyon in the south west, i was interested in what it takes go to the next levels....this answered that perfectly......thanks for sharing.

  • @acdbrnout5101
    @acdbrnout5101 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    What happened when he clicked on North America on Rope wiki that bust your nose 🤣🤣

    • @DaftFader
      @DaftFader 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haha! I was just coming to the comments to tyoe the same thing. 😂😂😂👍
      And it had almost healed fully by the end of the video too lmao.

  • @justinwilkens1620
    @justinwilkens1620 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super informative! I cannot wait until summer!

  • @HeatherLynn-bs9js
    @HeatherLynn-bs9js 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keeper pothole is a 4 rating in the US system (or it should be). I would use ropewiki for the southwest as well as it has become more used there, too.

  • @im_always_adventuring
    @im_always_adventuring 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video, thanks for sharing!

  • @brotherlove100
    @brotherlove100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh boy, rope nerd notes gets crazy complicated and specific very fast. Nuances

  • @cavezip
    @cavezip 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My packa always end up with holes in them after a few trips. Having holes from the get go is a great idea!

  • @LarsLarsen77
    @LarsLarsen77 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That o-ring is brilliant. Figure 8's and plates have a flaw in that they violate the "no metal on metal and no rope on rope" by being metal on metal. Rubber fixes that.

    • @brianrodman1033
      @brianrodman1033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s not a hard and fast rule (metal on metal being “bad” pretty much only applies to avoiding non locking carabiner chains, if it applied as a hard rule we wouldn’t clip bolts).

  • @shred_meister
    @shred_meister 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ll give it a try im a hell of a swimmer pretty handy rappeller

  • @TheClanAdventures
    @TheClanAdventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have guided many folk canyoning and coasteering and the pee issue has always been a fun topic. Most think you are kidding when you tell them that they can just pee in the wetsuit save it as long as you can as you will appreciate the heat more. But hell it can be hard for some folk to do it. Women more so, they will wait till there bladder is about to burst. But ultimately they all discover the dirty pleasure that is peeing in your wetsuit. I have had a six year old poo in a wetsuit, not fun. So don't poo in your wetsuit that's a different sport.

    • @barongerhardt
      @barongerhardt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That had to be awful for the kid too.

    • @TheClanAdventures
      @TheClanAdventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      6 year old boy, he didn't bother his ass about it, some kids have no shame. lol@@barongerhardt

    • @B0K1T0
      @B0K1T0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I never did canyoning but I can tell that peeing while windsurfing at the same time is quite an amazing experience as well 🤣
      always make sure to properly rinse out your wetsuit though.. (obviously)

  • @rickhaller3328
    @rickhaller3328 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I took the V7 Academy classes. I liked them both, despite the unchecked spelling errors.

  • @subsonicelf9271
    @subsonicelf9271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t have much experience climbing but I worked as a tree climber a few years. We use a Prussik cord on a hitch climber pulley to repel. I’m curious, does anyone know if this would be a viable option for this sport?

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could rappel in many different ways. The difference is what you are rappelling on or into. If you can disengage safely, you are most likely ok.

    • @subsonicelf9271
      @subsonicelf9271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBrocam cool, thanks

  • @rubyf1993
    @rubyf1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next topic, Via Ferrata's . Love the vids!

  • @vincentcalauttijr.7393
    @vincentcalauttijr.7393 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to Zion Memorial Day weekend Thursday to Tuesday this year, going to try to do my first canyon with my buddy bringing a bunch of gear if anyone wants to meet up with some experience and have a day with us give me a shout

  • @ozoutdoorsman
    @ozoutdoorsman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pitch number shouldnt change whether its a jump, rappel or slide. Often theres all options so it should read J1, J2, R3, R4, S5 etc

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, for some reason in canyoneering and canyoning, they keep them separate. I see your point though.

    • @ozoutdoorsman
      @ozoutdoorsman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TheBrocam must be in "freedom units" as that's not how it's done in Europe or Aus

  • @WildernessExcursions
    @WildernessExcursions 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was that footage from Box and Monmouth?

  • @jimmycreek
    @jimmycreek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I white water kayak and have had to rapell around a waterfall. Glories of adventure boating. On a thought for foot wear. Has anyone tested Astrals river specific shoes. Eg Hiyaks

  • @Max_Janszen
    @Max_Janszen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotta shout out Gear Perspectives for making incredible gear, check them out

  • @ryanp0342
    @ryanp0342 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “How do I find friends?” Ryan

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "lvl 0 canyoner lfg"

  • @brianrodman1033
    @brianrodman1033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know what rope bag that is at around the 26 minute mark? Looks like a nice tag line sized rope bag.

  • @barongerhardt
    @barongerhardt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It is okay to pee in your wet suit, but don't pee in a dry suit.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Haha 😂

  • @eriksjoberg8991
    @eriksjoberg8991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the linescale even waterproof?

  • @J94540
    @J94540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rocky Talkies are NOT waterproof!!! From the manufacturer's own website, they're only "IP56 (Splashproof/Snowproof, not submergible)". We dipped one in water in a pothole mid multi-stage rappel on Saturday and it died immediately. Good think we had 4!

    • @ConradNewfield
      @ConradNewfield 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 5W ones are, as he showed in the video

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 5 Watt model is rated IP67, 1m submersion. It's also a GMRS radio, not an FRS radio like the 2W model.

  • @rickkrause3198
    @rickkrause3198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glacier Black, I like your rope bag idea, you should look at making them for 600' 1/2 " static rope for rescues. I was doing a rescue practice, yesterday and we had to pull the entire rope out to get to the other end. I would only have a 25% opening at the bottom. Because you are packing 60 lbs or more.

    • @raphaelbeinhauer9242
      @raphaelbeinhauer9242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Use 11mm rope🙈
      But check out the CMC rope bag, is is pretty much exactly what you're describing, and made for rescue and rope access.

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like that. What type of rope are you using, Technora or Polyester?

    • @raphaelbeinhauer9242
      @raphaelbeinhauer9242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheBrocam I use polyester, technora is too expensive for anything other than canyoning for me😅. I'm in Europe, so for me EN 1891 is the only relevant standard, which gives tons of options for rope, if you are doing rescue in North America and need NFPA G rating, you need to shop around a bit, there are like 5 different 11mm ropes conforming to that standard.

    • @glacierblack
      @glacierblack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Rick, We are working on various sizes that will work in different venues and sports. I will look into this for sure. I am also working on a 9.6mm EN 1891 Type B rope for rescue and guiding companies. Thank you for your comments.

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My rope bag is a duffle bag from the good will

  • @kadmow
    @kadmow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So... Wet abseilling - DRT - maybe recover anchors ?? - or leave them.
    (bouyancy at the end mad be useful... - impact absorbing...)
    wet - into dry-hole and no rope, that sux - SAT Phone..., maybe.
    lol, dry canyoneering is double-sided bouldering...
    metres left in the bag is similar to x3.3 feet for the same, lol...

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not sure what your question is, but here are a couple points. We typically do retrievable SRT. The block is either static or releasable. An SRT is essential for lowering or hauling. If you set it up DRT and have to rescue, you will have to use a completely different system or technique.

  • @auklin7079
    @auklin7079 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That 'pee in the wetsuit' saying is so annoying, I've been kiteboarding/ scuba diving/ surfing for 10 years, and I never pissed in my wetsuit. I just use the bathroom before I go in the water.
    I'm assuming people know this, but wetsuits aren't designed to 'cycle' the water, if you pee in your wetsuit, you are just coating yourself in a layer of your own urine. And if you've ever needed a rental, the smell is putrid.

  • @andrewstoll4548
    @andrewstoll4548 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll take a wetsuit in a mechanics medium please.

  • @Rawfightz
    @Rawfightz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Papacord treehouse

  • @dickersnoodle1025
    @dickersnoodle1025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    question about canyoning anyone can answer. At one point it's mentioned even if you have previous recent beta, you should still downclimb and check the pool depth, why jump in the pool at all? not to discredit the fun factor, but to complete a "canyon" is it required you do the stunts or are they just that much faster

    • @TheBrocam
      @TheBrocam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. Some like the adventure. Usually, jumps are able to be rappelled or downclimbed. That being said, it is typically more efficient to have the majority of peolple be able to jump. To yur point, jumps and slides are more risky.

    • @dickersnoodle1025
      @dickersnoodle1025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBrocam thanks! that makes sense.